Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #450 on: May 17, 2023, 01:58:17 AM »
You can do what denpressure allows you to do.  ;)

Still can’t figure out:

One, that water hanging from a ceiling then gaining enough mass without changing density to fall disproves den pressure.

Two, you still need a force like gravity to “stack” the atmosphere.




Three.  When air resistance is made negligible.  Items of different densities do drop at the same rate.  And den pressure’s complete failure to model densities should change drop rates.

Four.  There is free space.  Everything to how radiation can pass through solids.  To how molecules can be imaged.  To how electrons work.

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The higher the atomic number of an element, the tighter its atoms are packed together. So while x-rays can fly through carbon, which has an atomic mass of 12 (and thus, lots of empty space), x-rays have a much harder time penetrating lead’s mass of 207.

https://barriertechnologies.com/why-does-lead-block-radiation/



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Physicists show unlimited heat conduction in graphene

https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2014-05-physicists-unlimited-graphene.amp


Scanning tunnelling microscopy (STM) image of graphene on Ir(111). The image size is 15 nm × 15 nm. Credit: ESRF
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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #451 on: May 17, 2023, 03:12:39 AM »

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #452 on: May 17, 2023, 04:03:13 AM »
What makes up the layer?
Molecules.
what makes up molecules
Layering.
Notice a cycle?
You claim the layers are made up of molecules, which in turn are made up of layers.

Too much layering against less layering allows the less layering to be crushed through the sieve.
Again, this entirely fails to answer the question.
The question is what is stopping the larger molecules/layers/whatever you want to call them being squished down to fit through the hole?

Always.
So you are back to saying if you have a container of air, and have it expand at all, the molecules break down.
They don't simply expand, they break down.
Directly contradicting your prior statement.

It can but at a much higher stacking in the atmospheric layer they end up in after being crushed up.
Why?
For water, if we lower the pressure it can boil at room temperature, and if we take steam and compress it it condenses.
Why wouldn't helium behave the same, with it more likely to breakdown at higher positions?
Why wouldn't it unbreakdown at lower positions?

Molecules just don't randomly just fall through a sieve
It isn't falling through, it is just randomly moving through.

No I don't think they can expand or contract without them breaking down.
Then why don't all the molecules go through the sieve?
This would mean that the N2 and O2 can't go through without breaking down (or unbreaking down) so CO2 shouldn't be special at all.

I've told you so many times it's layer peeling, so what is it you can't get?
You repeatedly switching between breakdown/pealing vs molecules expanding and contracting.

You said all molecules are fixed.
You know what you said so carry on worming out of it.
Technically I didn't. But again, FIXED DOES NOT MEAN SAME!
All molecules having a fixed size DOES NOT mean all molecules are the same size.
The only one trying to twist things here is you.
You can't respond honestly and demonstrate a problem so you resort to blatantly lying.

Even now you appeal to saying fixed as if we are arguing against that.
YOU are the one arguing against we.
We are objecting to your dishonest BS of claiming we said that all molecules are the same size.

This is where you changed it because you realised you messed up
No, this is where I remain consistent with what was originally said and point your pathetic dishonesty.
But you just double down with more pathetic lies.

I'm just saying and calling you out
You aren't calling anyone out. You are just blatantly lying.

At least you're changing it now.
No, we aren't. We are remaining consistent, and just not matching your pathetic lie.

Of course the layers are multiple molecules.
Then what are molecules made of?

It's all about paying attention to everything I say
And if we do that, we see you claim molecules have layers. Not that molecules surround molecules in layers to make a larger molecule, but that molecules have layers.
We also see you then go and contradict yourself because you don't have a coherent model.

Your mind is not to understand it, your mind is far too focused on ensuring your perused books
Repeating the same pathetic insults wont help you.
Your mind is too focused on pretending your delusional BS works that you refuse to understand it other than incredibly superficially.

I'm describing an Earth that has an ice dome.
No, you are describing a round Earth, with a solid core, and layers around it.
Your gobstopper analogy is describing a round Earth.

It also helps demonstrate the sheer insanity of your claim that this could never work for the RE as it can't be a foundation, but you then have a tiny molecule act as a foundation to your gobstopper.

Obviously, you're not going to accept that, as I said above but that's what I'm getting at because you can't or refuse to understand that then you're naturally never going to get past your global-minded training and I fully accept that, and understand why.
No, you don't accept it or understand. You event a fantasy to pretend that your delusional BS is reasonable.
You come up with a pathetic excuse for why I keep pointing out so many problems with it.

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So we have our dense layer in the middle, the core, with some solid layers outside that, going to a partial liquid layer on the surface, and then gaseous layers above.
Basically, yes.
i.e. a round Earth.

There's no real explanation as to why we all live on Earth but it is what it is and we have to try and make sense of it all.
Yet you refuse to make sense of it. Instead you cling to fantasies and avoid reality at all costs.

Apparently it's spinning at over 1000mph
Or to express it more honestly, it is rotating at a rate of roughly 1 revolution per day.
But your irrational hatred of the model doesn't mean it makes no sense, especially as you are yet to demonstrate any fault.

And here we are trying to figure out the truth against that fiction to which you adhere
You mean here we are with you trying to bury the truth, dismissing it as fiction, and trying to replace it with delusional garbage which you cannot justify at all?

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Smoke Machine

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #453 on: May 17, 2023, 04:10:52 AM »
You want to hear a real conspiracy? How about a conspiracy with Elon Musk, to first track your IP address, and then devise an elaborate scheme to have you kidnapped and smuggled aboard the next Space X flight into outer space? Preferably to the moon where you can be left stranded there, staring back at the blue marble you were born on. Maybe that way, JockBlock and DungOverFlow2022 can finally get a good night's sleep!
I don't think Jack and data actually sleep.


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How is your flat earth with dome, not airtight in the way that I think?
It's held every available molecule for this Earth cell to function inside a moveable ice skin with whatever molecular mass is external to it that is between another similar cell and another and so on and so on.

Airtight?
I'd say atmospherically layered from vibrational dense frequencies to vibrational less dense frequencies all the way up to the ice skin.

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  (Being a physical model maker, I have a said cake display stand with clear plastic dome in front of me as I type this)
Good for you. Put a cake inside of it.

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A working model would most definitely offer an explanation of how your den pressurised flat earth dome world, works.
Piece by piece for those who have the ability to absorb.



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Many people know what the entire Earth looks like from above, and it isn't cake world covered with a dome.
Nobody knows.
Many people are told what it looks like but then again many people are told what santa claus looks like or a unicorn or a tooth fairy or a god or a black hole or a ...well, you get the gist.


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 The only difference between you and them, is a decision. A decision that they weren't lied to. That's the only difference.
Correct. I choose to question a lot of the stuff and not just blindly accept it and some simply blindly accept it. And it is blind acceptance for a lot.

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You said you could make a working model of your theory, so make it. Failure to make it is your defeat.
Did I?


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See how I've cornered you? Do you concede defeat?
Defeat for what? You've offered a few words and you clearly have no clue about my hypothesis.
You can't corner someone who offers no crease.

Ahh, but do you know what I can do, my smug little sparring partner?

I can break the fourth wall between you and I. You think you're safe from me on your keyboard in front of your monitor, with the entire internet separating us.

We're already connected by thought and conversation, both of which are energy.

Maybe I'll make myself appear in front of you or kick you out of that watery physical body of yours, up into lower Earth orbit, where you can see and behold the visage of the Earth itself from outer space.

Do you think I can't do these things?  :D
You can do what denpressure allows you to do.  ;)

It sounds to me like you just gave me permission, pressure den man.  :D

Put on your space suit, I'm going to take you to outer space.

See you soon.  :D
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For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #454 on: May 17, 2023, 04:23:39 AM »
You can do what denpressure allows you to do.  ;)

Still can’t figure out:

One, that water hanging from a ceiling then gaining enough mass without changing density to fall disproves den pressure.
It can't gain mass without gaining density.



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Two, you still need a force like gravity to “stack” the atmosphere.
You absolutely do not need anything of the sort.
The molecular makeup does its own job aided by energy vibration/friction and the frequencies of it


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Three.  When air resistance is made negligible.
It's never made negligible in terms of offering exactness to different dense masses.

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Items of different densities do drop at the same rate.
No they don't.

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  And den pressure’s complete failure to model densities should change drop rates.
It offers nothing. I have no clue what you're on about.
Maybe explain it a bit better.

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Four.  There is free space.
Absolutely none.

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  Everything to how radiation can pass through solids.
Yep, porosity is key and also reflected images.

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  To how molecules can be imaged.
Do you mean molecular denser mass?


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  To how electrons work.
Do you know what they are and how they actually work?


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The higher the atomic number of an element, the tighter its atoms are packed together. So while x-rays can fly through carbon, which has an atomic mass of 12 (and thus, lots of empty space), x-rays have a much harder time penetrating lead’s mass of 207.

https://barriertechnologies.com/why-does-lead-block-radiation/

I've already explained this a few times.
Its porosity in any dense mass displaces the atmosphere to push a weight reading on a scale. It also creates a barrier to offer massive resistance to molecular movement and magnification and reflection through it., in the case of lead, and massive movement in the case of a sponge or whatever has bigger porosity.



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Physicists show unlimited heat conduction in graphene

https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2014-05-physicists-unlimited-graphene.amp

Scanning tunnelling microscopy (STM) image of graphene on Ir(111). The image size is 15 nm × 15 nm. Credit: ESRF
What are you arguing for?

You're offering up all kinds of stuff as if it means something against denpressure or it offers somethintg to back up your global mindset with gravity.
Tell me what's what?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #455 on: May 17, 2023, 04:24:26 AM »

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JackBlack

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #456 on: May 17, 2023, 04:36:14 AM »
It can't gain mass without gaining density.
Sure it can.

Get a steel block.
Now get another identical one and put them together.
In doing so you double the mass, without changing the density at all.

You absolutely do not need anything of the sort.
Until you can provide an alternative, gravity is the only viable explanation for why the atmosphere stacks.
So care to stop avoiding the issue and either explain what magic causes the atmosphere to stack or admit you can't?

It's never made negligible in terms of offering exactness to different dense masses.
So even in the near vacuum of space, it wont be negligible and rockets will still work.

Absolutely none.
Yet so many things are explained by it, and without it these things just make no sense at all.

what makes up layering?
Molecules.
Again, you just have circular BS.

What is the fundamental building block? Molecules or layers?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #457 on: May 17, 2023, 04:49:42 AM »
What makes up the layer?
Molecules.
what makes up molecules
Layering.
Notice a cycle?
You claim the layers are made up of molecules, which in turn are made up of layers.

Yes because each layer within a molecule is another molecule. Each layer is expanded until peeled.
The peeled layers will always be attached depending on energy/pressures/friction and frequencies applied.



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Too much layering against less layering allows the less layering to be crushed through the sieve.
Again, this entirely fails to answer the question.
The question is what is stopping the larger molecules/layers/whatever you want to call them being squished down to fit through the hole?

Too many molecular layers. Too dense against what it is pushing against what it's pushing through (SIEVE).



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Always.
So you are back to saying if you have a container of air, and have it expand at all, the molecules break down.
They don't simply expand, they break down.
Directly contradicting your prior statement.

They decompress and peel their links.
I offered you the simplest analogy with the pyramid. Remember?


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It can but at a much higher stacking in the atmospheric layer they end up in after being crushed up.
Why?
For water, if we lower the pressure it can boil at room temperature, and if we take steam and compress it it condenses.

Of course. I explained it and why the atmosphere compresses it up until the mass builds its density and displaces the atmosphere above which resists and pushes back. Spring back if you like and that dense mass overcomes the less dense mass of the atmosphere below it.


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Why wouldn't helium behave the same, with it more likely to breakdown at higher positions?

It does but at a much much higher altitude to that stacked laying of it where it fits that pressure and is not squeezed anywhere near in its displacement above it and around it and it rests on the layer it sits on because the push back cannot happen until enough helium has been squeezed up to cause more displacement, enough to overcome the below layering in a build that overcomes the rest as it gathers dense mass to become water or rain or snow or hail and so on and so on.

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Why wouldn't it unbreakdown at lower positions?

Because of the energy required to allow it to break its molecular layering.
You just have to imagine the gobstopper and understand where helium would lie in a layer compared to steamed water breakdown.

So many variations.

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Molecules just don't randomly just fall through a sieve
It isn't falling through, it is just randomly moving through.

Makes no sense for any molecule to randomly move on its own.


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No I don't think they can expand or contract without them breaking down.
Then why don't all the molecules go through the sieve?

Layering. I'll keep saying this until you get it, or until someone does.

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This would mean that the N2 and O2 can't go through without breaking down (or unbreaking down) so CO2 shouldn't be special at all.

As above.

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I've told you so many times it's layer peeling, so what is it you can't get?
You repeatedly switching between breakdown/pealing vs molecules expanding and contracting.

Because this is what happens in denpressure.
It comes down to you understanding it and why you're taking so long to do so due to you being angry and also immediately switching to guns when your missiles fail.
Instead, you would be better just turning and burning and heading for home to get a grasp of what I've offered and why I've offered it as simply and as basically as I can.

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It's all about paying attention to everything I say
And if we do that, we see you claim molecules have layers. Not that molecules surround molecules in layers to make a larger molecule, but that molecules have layers.
We also see you then go and contradict yourself because you don't have a coherent model.

There's no contradiction, just failure to understand from you.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #458 on: May 17, 2023, 04:50:52 AM »
You want to hear a real conspiracy? How about a conspiracy with Elon Musk, to first track your IP address, and then devise an elaborate scheme to have you kidnapped and smuggled aboard the next Space X flight into outer space? Preferably to the moon where you can be left stranded there, staring back at the blue marble you were born on. Maybe that way, JockBlock and DungOverFlow2022 can finally get a good night's sleep!
I don't think Jack and data actually sleep.


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How is your flat earth with dome, not airtight in the way that I think?
It's held every available molecule for this Earth cell to function inside a moveable ice skin with whatever molecular mass is external to it that is between another similar cell and another and so on and so on.

Airtight?
I'd say atmospherically layered from vibrational dense frequencies to vibrational less dense frequencies all the way up to the ice skin.

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  (Being a physical model maker, I have a said cake display stand with clear plastic dome in front of me as I type this)
Good for you. Put a cake inside of it.

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A working model would most definitely offer an explanation of how your den pressurised flat earth dome world, works.
Piece by piece for those who have the ability to absorb.



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Many people know what the entire Earth looks like from above, and it isn't cake world covered with a dome.
Nobody knows.
Many people are told what it looks like but then again many people are told what santa claus looks like or a unicorn or a tooth fairy or a god or a black hole or a ...well, you get the gist.


Quote from: Smoke Machine

 The only difference between you and them, is a decision. A decision that they weren't lied to. That's the only difference.
Correct. I choose to question a lot of the stuff and not just blindly accept it and some simply blindly accept it. And it is blind acceptance for a lot.

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You said you could make a working model of your theory, so make it. Failure to make it is your defeat.
Did I?


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See how I've cornered you? Do you concede defeat?
Defeat for what? You've offered a few words and you clearly have no clue about my hypothesis.
You can't corner someone who offers no crease.

Ahh, but do you know what I can do, my smug little sparring partner?

I can break the fourth wall between you and I. You think you're safe from me on your keyboard in front of your monitor, with the entire internet separating us.

We're already connected by thought and conversation, both of which are energy.

Maybe I'll make myself appear in front of you or kick you out of that watery physical body of yours, up into lower Earth orbit, where you can see and behold the visage of the Earth itself from outer space.

Do you think I can't do these things?  :D
You can do what denpressure allows you to do.  ;)

It sounds to me like you just gave me permission, pressure den man.  :D

Put on your space suit, I'm going to take you to outer space.

See you soon.  :D
Your threats are veiled but nevertheless worth acting upon.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #459 on: May 17, 2023, 04:59:29 AM »
It can't gain mass without gaining density.
Sure it can.

Get a steel block.
Now get another identical one and put them together.
In doing so you double the mass, without changing the density at all.
You're arguing against denpressure.
Mass is density so by adding mass you add density.
Your issue is volume.
Understand that denpressure disagrees with your setup.

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You absolutely do not need anything of the sort.
Until you can provide an alternative, gravity is the only viable explanation for why the atmosphere stacks.
So care to stop avoiding the issue and either explain what magic causes the atmosphere to stack or admit you can't?
Gravity is fictional.

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It's never made negligible in terms of offering exactness to different dense masses.
So even in the near vacuum of space, it wont be negligible and rockets will still work.

Not unless you have a strong resisting reactionary force to the decompressive force from the rocket s molecules.
Your extremely low-pressure environment offers absolutely nothing to react upon.

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Again, you just have circular BS.

What is the fundamental building block? Molecules or layers?
Molecular layers.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #460 on: May 17, 2023, 05:01:11 AM »

It can't gain mass without gaining density.



Start with this.

A water drop hangs from the ceiling.  The water has a specific density.  As the droplet gains mass from condensation, the density hasn’t changed. 

Why would gaining more water change the density of the water the water droplet is made of? 

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #461 on: May 17, 2023, 05:07:02 AM »

It can't gain mass without gaining density.



Start with this.

A water drop hangs from the ceiling.  The water has a specific density.  As the droplet gains mass from condensation, the density hasn’t changed. 

Why would gaining more water change the density of the water the water droplet is made of?
Do you never wonder why I always say dense mass?

You need to actually start thinking because you'll go round in circles doing it the way you do.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #462 on: May 17, 2023, 05:42:02 AM »

It can't gain mass without gaining density.



Start with this.

A water drop hangs from the ceiling.  The water has a specific density.  As the droplet gains mass from condensation, the density hasn’t changed. 

Why would gaining more water change the density of the water the water droplet is made of?
Do you never wonder why I always say dense mass?

You need to actually start thinking because you'll go round in circles doing it the way you do.


That in no way answers this.


Start with this.

A water drop hangs from the ceiling.  The water has a specific density.  As the droplet gains mass from condensation, the density hasn’t changed. 

Why would gaining more water change the density of the water the water droplet is made of?


The density of water..

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It's no coincidence that water has a density of 1. Density is mass divided by volume (ρ=m/v), and water was used as the basis for establishing the metric unit of mass, which means a cubic centimeter (1cm3) of water weighs one gram (1g).

So, 1g/1cm3 = 1 g/cm3, giving water its easy-to-remember density. However, water's exact density depends on both the air pressure and the temperature of the area.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/what-is-the-density-of-water


As the water droplet grows in mass and stays at one pressure of atmosphere and constant temperature, the density per volume of the water doesn’t change.  As the mass of the water droplet will increases from condensation, the density per value unit of the water doesn’t change. 

The water droplet doesn’t become more dense as it increases in mass.

Or use a styrofoam block as an example.

A small piece of tape can hold a 1 inch cube of styrofoam block to the ceiling by adhesion.


Take a more massive block of the same type of styrofoam at 9100 grams, the same small amount of tape fails to hold the more massive block to the ceiling.

The tape failed because mass increased with no change in density.
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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #463 on: May 17, 2023, 07:37:09 AM »

Start with this.

A water drop hangs from the ceiling.  The water has a specific density.  As the droplet gains mass from condensation, the density hasn’t changed. 
In denpressure dense mass is what it says. all mass changes in density when added to.


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Why would gaining more water change the density of the water the water droplet is made of?
The density of water..
Because the water droplet gained more dense mass.

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As the water droplet grows in mass and stays at one pressure of atmosphere and constant temperature, the density per volume of the water doesn’t change.
It never stays constant. Nothing can be constant.

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  As the mass of the water droplet will increases from condensation, the density per value unit of the water doesn’t change. 
The dense mass changes as more water molecules are compressed into it.

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The water droplet doesn’t become more dense as it increases in mass.
Yes it does, in denpressure. What it does in your world is not the same as mine. Understand that.

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Or use a styrofoam block as an example.

A small piece of tape can hold a 1 inch cube of styrofoam block to the ceiling by adhesion.

Take a more massive block of the same type of styrofoam at 9100 grams, the same small amount of tape fails to hold the more massive block to the ceiling.

The tape failed because mass increased with no change in density.
The tape failed because the atmospheric displacement changed.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #464 on: May 17, 2023, 08:03:30 AM »

Because the water droplet gained more dense mass.



Then your model fails because it base on lies and falsehoods.

Density is mass divided by volume.

As the water droplet gains more mass as the temperature and pressure stay the same.  Hanging from the ceiling, the density does stay the same.  The water’s density doesn’t change.

The volume changes as there is an increases in mass. So density maintains the same mass to volume ration.


The water droplet falls because it gains enough mass the mutual attraction between the earth and water droplet called gravity over comes the forces of cohesion and adhesion with the ceiling.   


How does the hanging water droplet become more “dense” in the den pressure delusion hanging from the ceiling?  Volume of the water droplet changes as mass is increased. 



The tape failed because the atmospheric displacement changed.

How did the tape “fail”.
 
Why would the adhesive property “fail” differently in the den pressure delusion between water vs tape.


The small cube of styrofoam hangs there. 

The larger piece of styrofoam has the same density.  In the same pressure.  And the same temperature.

The only things that changed was the mass.  And between the two different sized blocks, the surface area where the larger block has to push a larger surface area into an atmosphere with more molecules, more collisions with molecules, and leave less dense atmosphere to fall into more dense atmosphere.  If there is no force of gravity to overcome the adhesion to the tape and pull the block into more dense atmosphere with more molecules providing more collisions and resistance, why doesn’t the block fall up?

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #465 on: May 17, 2023, 08:30:46 AM »

Because the water droplet gained more dense mass.



Then your model fails because it base on lies and falsehoods.

Density is mass divided by volume.
Not in denpressure it's not.

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As the water droplet gains more mass as the temperature and pressure stay the same.  Hanging from the ceiling, the density does stay the same.  The water’s density doesn’t change.
If the water droplet gains more mass then it also becomes a more dense mass displacement of the atmosphere.

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The volume changes as there is an increases in mass. So density maintains the same mass to volume ration.
Everything changes.


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The water droplet falls because it gains enough mass the mutual attraction between the earth and water droplet called gravity over comes the forces of cohesion and adhesion with the ceiling.
 
It falls because it gains enough dense mass to be squeezed down through that added extra dense mass addition of displacement of the atmosphere.

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How does the hanging water droplet become more “dense” in the den pressure delusion hanging from the ceiling?
 
Because the molecular structure of the droplet has been added to.
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  Volume of the water droplet changes as mass is increased.
 
Yes and also density as mass increases.

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The tape failed because the atmospheric displacement changed.

How did the tape “fail”.
 
Why would the adhesive property “fail” differently in the den pressure delusion between water vs tape.


The small cube of styrofoam hangs there. 

The larger piece of styrofoam has the same density.  In the same pressure.  And the same temperature.

Is your 1-inch styrofoam block the same scale weight measurement of its dense mass as the larger styrofoam block?

Answer this.

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The only things that changed was the mass.  And between the two different sized blocks, the surface area where the larger block has to push a larger surface area into an atmosphere with more molecules, more collisions with molecules, and leave less dense atmosphere to fall into more dense atmosphere.  If there is no force of gravity to overcome the adhesion to the tape and pull the block into more dense atmosphere with more molecules providing more collisions and resistance, why doesn’t the block fall up?
Make the question with the blocks blatantly clear so I can address it properly.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #466 on: May 17, 2023, 08:48:11 AM »

 Not in denpressure it's not.


Then den pressure is a lie.

The density stays the same because mass and volume increase to keep the same ratio.

In the den pressure delusion the water droplet is expanding by hanging thee, not compressing at all.  Even in your delusion there is no reason for the water droplet to increase density as pressure and temperature stay the same.


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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #467 on: May 17, 2023, 08:55:11 AM »

 Not in denpressure it's not.


Then den pressure is a lie.
Or your version is not exactly the truth.


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The density stays the same because mass and volume increase to keep the same ratio.
If the mass increases so does volume and so does density, in denpressure.
Understand that and you'll know why I stand by it.

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In the denpressure  the water droplet is expanding by hanging thee, not compressing at all.
It's compressing by expansion. They both work in equal action to reaction. You cannot compress without expansion.
Have a think on it.

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  Even in your delusion there is no reason for the water droplet to increase density as pressure and temperature stay the same.
Pressure and the temperature never stay the same but an increase in mass means an increase in structure and structure is part of the density of the mass.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #468 on: May 17, 2023, 09:55:11 AM »
Mocleculear layers

Amazing!

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #469 on: May 17, 2023, 11:11:38 AM »
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It can't gain mass without gaining density.


Really.


Easily proven false.

So, one drop of water gains enough mass in your delusion to increase its density so much the water drop falls?

Setup for simple experiment.



An empty graduated cylinder on a scale with the weight of the cylinder zeroed.  The graduated cylinder reads 0 to 50 ml in one ml increments.

Using your den pressure delusion.  What should the density of water be at 23.2 degrees Celsius.  City tap water.

What should the weight in grams modeling with the den pressure delusion be for water at 5ml, 10ml, 20ml, and 50ml.  For your delusion, what should be the increase in density from 5 ml of water to 50 ml of water?

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #470 on: May 17, 2023, 12:18:13 PM »
Data thinks hes having a conversati9n with sceppy in english.



Data is wrong

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #471 on: May 17, 2023, 01:58:50 PM »
Data thinks hes having a conversati9n with sceppy in english.



Data is wrong


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I do not have any problem with general science as a whole and in-fact I am impressed with mans ability to harness the elements and produce wonders for which we all benefit in terms of comfort and technological advancement.

If I could sit down in front of you and ask you how you know about the stuff I argue against, your only answer is indoctrination by verbal or text or the vision of pictures made available to you, whether still or moving.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

sceptimatic is a joke…

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #472 on: May 17, 2023, 03:08:45 PM »
Yes because each layer within a molecule is another molecule.
So again, what is the basic building block?
Can you eventually get to a point where it is just a single molecule, rather than layers?

When the layers magically peel off, do they peel of to molecules without layers, or with layers?

How are your layers any different than just having a bunch of molecules touching?

How about you try drawing a picture of such a "molecule"?

Too many molecular layers. Too dense against what it is pushing against what it's pushing through (SIEVE).
Why?
How are there to many?
You are rejecting the idea of a physical size of a molecule. So why can't these layers just get squished and pushed through?
Alternatively, why can't they just be broken off, pushed through and rebuilt on the other side?

I offered you the simplest analogy with the pyramid. Remember?
No, your pyramid is for the layering on you flat fantasy, the gobstopper is for the air.
So are you now saying they must do both together?
That a molecule cannot expand without breaking down?
To expand even a tiny bit will require them to break down?

I explained it
No, you just fled from the issue.

Again, with water, it will switch back lower down. That increasing the pressure (like what is observed lower down) causes it to switch back to water.
It does not need to go up high to where it would "naturally fit" with it being unable to be "crushed up" by the denser atmosphere around it.

So why should helium have to do that?
Why can't helium switch back at atmospheric pressure, switching back into the N2 and O2 (aka air) you claim it is broken down from?

Again, this is NOT talking about it layering, that is a separate issue you cannot explain.
This is talking about why helium doesn't magically switch back while water does.
It is demonstrating that your model is incoherent because you need to repeatedly contradict yourself. That you cannot consider multiple aspects together because they are mutually exclusive. Instead you need to consider it in isolation where you can pretend it works without any concern for the rest of your model.

Because of the energy required to allow it to break its molecular layering.
You just have to imagine the gobstopper and understand where helium would lie in a layer compared to steamed water breakdown.
And if I do so honestly, I see that it should not be possible for helium to exist near ground level at atmospheric pressure. That exposure to such an environment should cause it to switch back to atmosphere. Not get pushed up, switch back.
That you should need to take air up to those high altitudes to have it break down into helium, and that bringing it back down should cause it to switch back.

Makes no sense for any molecule to randomly move on its own.
So you are saying you model makes no sense?

Layering. I'll keep saying this until you get it, or until someone does.
Repeating the same non-answer will not help you.
Layering does NOT explain it.

Because this is what happens in denpressure.
Yes, that is what happens when you have a pile of garbage which doesn't work at all and instead need to make up excuses for specific situations which show massive problems if you try to use them in other comparable situations.

If you had a coherent model which actually worked to explain reality, you wouldn't need to do so.

It comes down to you understanding it
And I do understand it, in a far more relational manner than you.
I take some of the BS you have said for one situation and demonstrate how it causes you problems for other situations.
Because you want to pretend your delusional BS works, you entirely ignore this and only ever focus on one tiny aspect at once, because you know that doing more makes your fantasy come crashing down.

There's no contradiction, just failure to understand from you.
Your wilful ignorance of these contradictions does not make them vanish, nor does it mean I don't understand.

To justify your delusional garbage, you would need to explain them, and that would require you to stay on topic and actually address what is said.

It would also require you to consider multiple aspect of your model at once, and recognise the conflict between them.

You're arguing against denpressure.
Yes, I am arguing agaisnt your delusional BS, but that doesn't mean we ignore English.
Don't steal words which already have meaning and pretend they mean something else.

If you want your own delusional garbage with a different meaning, make up your own words and stop pretending to speak English.

Mass is density so by adding mass you add density.
No, mass is NOT density.
Mass is an extensive property, depending upon how much you have. Density is an intensive property, which doesn't depend on how much you have.
1 kg of water has the same density as 2 kg of water.

Gravity is fictional.
Your irrational hatred doesn't make it fictional.
Again, unless you have a viable alternative, all the evidence supports gravity.
Gravity works as a coherent explanation for so much of reality.
Your delusional BS repeatedly fails.

Not unless you have a strong resisting reactionary force to the decompressive force from the rocket s molecules.
Your extremely low-pressure environment offers absolutely nothing to react upon.
So you are saying the air resistance in this environment is negligible?

Again, notice your contradiction?
You repeatedly need to contradict yourself to pretend your delusional BS can work and be justified.

Either the atmosphere (and by extension its resistance) can NEVER be negligible, so even in an incredibly low pressure environment, commonly known as a vacuum, such as that which surrounds Earth, there will still be resistance and rockets can work; or, the atmosphere can be negligible, and we can discuss how in such an environment, at a given location on earth, objects accelerate downwards at the same rate. (notice how this time I said same, not fixed, because in this case the rate is the same for all objects in this environment, but changing the environment can change the rate, so it isn't fixed)

Molecular layers.
Are you just trying to say layers made of molecules, or the actual layers which make up a molecule?

It falls because it gains enough dense mass to be squeezed down through that added extra dense mass addition of displacement of the atmosphere.
But there is no air above it.
There is just air below and to the sides. So how does the air push it down?
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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #473 on: May 17, 2023, 03:25:53 PM »

It falls because it gains enough dense mass to be squeezed down through that added extra dense mass addition of displacement of the atmosphere.
But there is no air above it.
There is just air below and to the sides. So how does the air push it down?


Especially how does the water fall away from the ceiling if there can’t be free space or a void in den pressure?  Hmmmm  🤔

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #474 on: May 18, 2023, 12:12:09 AM »
Yes because each layer within a molecule is another molecule.
So again, what is the basic building block?
Can you eventually get to a point where it is just a single molecule, rather than layers?
I can't get to a single molecule because I don't think a single molecule exists.

I have to explain it as I am doing, bit by bit and with enough snippets for the logical ones to actually start to do the jigsaw.
You're still putting the corner pieces in place.

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When the layers magically peel off, do they peel of to molecules without layers, or with layers?
With layers but not just internal layers, external peels of layers that are not entirely fully peeled, just linked/attached by the pressure of others.
So many variations. Almost infinite to imagine.

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How are your layers any different than just having a bunch of molecules touching?
Elaborate.

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How about you try drawing a picture of such a "molecule"?
I could do that but your angry attitude and inability to acknowledge anything makes it pointless.

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Too many molecular layers. Too dense against what it is pushing against what it's pushing through (SIEVE).
Why?
How are there to many?
You are rejecting the idea of a physical size of a molecule. So why can't these layers just get squished and pushed through?
Molecular layering. Too many layers to be compressed through and are those that do the compressing through of the further broken down molecules.

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Alternatively, why can't they just be broken off, pushed through and rebuilt on the other side?
Because they're already broken down with massive energy so to sieve them offers even more separation.
Having them released from that point would be counterproductive to the process.

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I offered you the simplest analogy with the pyramid. Remember?
No, your pyramid is for the layering on you flat fantasy, the gobstopper is for the air.
No. The pyramid is the entirety of molecular stacking. I just offered you the absolute basic of stacki9ng and why the stacking occurs.
The gobstopper explains it better but you absolutely do not want to go there because you don't want to understand it in case it actually makes some sense and no way are you going to admit that.


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So are you now saying they must do both together?
That a molecule cannot expand without breaking down?
To expand even a tiny bit will require them to break down?
They will always break down a little or more depending on the energy/pressure applied

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I explained it
No, you just fled from the issue.

If I did I wouldn't be bothering with you.

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Again, with water, it will switch back lower down. That increasing the pressure (like what is observed lower down) causes it to switch back to water.
It does not need to go up high to where it would "naturally fit" with it being unable to be "crushed up" by the denser atmosphere around it.
It doesn't go up higher because the energy applied to expand and break down the water molecules is acted upon by the dense atmosphere which compresses it up to a point of diminishing the vibration and frequency of those molecules which then are compressed together and squeezed back down

Helium is broken down with a hell of a lot more energy and force and is crushed up to a much much higher layering in the atmosphere where it takes its molecular place in that stacked layering until enough of a build-up from below displaces it to cause a big enough resistance to squeeze down a little into a different set of layers.

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So why should helium have to do that?
Why can't helium switch back at atmospheric pressure, switching back into the N2 and O2 (aka air) you claim it is broken down from?
As above.
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Again, this is NOT talking about it layering, that is a separate issue you cannot explain.
I have explained. You chose to get angry and refuse to understand it and I'm ok with that, because the issue is yours, not mine.

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This is talking about why helium doesn't magically switch back while water does.
It is demonstrating that your model is incoherent because you need to repeatedly contradict yourself.
My model is only incoherent to you and others because you have absolutely no wish to swerve from the massive indoctrination of the global setup.

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That you cannot consider multiple aspects together because they are mutually exclusive. Instead you need to consider it in isolation where you can pretend it works without any concern for the rest of your model.
I can see it works. I only have to see things in action to know denpressure works and why gravity is fictional. But that's just my thoughts on it and you're massively welcome to yours.

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Because of the energy required to allow it to break its molecular layering.
You just have to imagine the gobstopper and understand where helium would lie in a layer compared to steamed water breakdown.
And if I do so honestly, I see that it should not be possible for helium to exist near ground level at atmospheric pressure.
It doesn't exist near ground level unless you break it down molecularly and contain it. Otherwise is stays trapped in massive layers of molecules until energy is applied to them to release that particular layer along with other layers that would naturally have to be broken down along with it.

So many variations.
I'm sure this will go right over your head.


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That you should need to take air up to those high altitudes to have it break down into helium, and that bringing it back down should cause it to switch back.
You're not getting it.

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Makes no sense for any molecule to randomly move on its own.
So you are saying you model makes no sense?
I'm saying your model makes no sense.


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Layering. I'll keep saying this until you get it, or until someone does.
Repeating the same non-answer will not help you.
Layering does NOT explain it.
Not to you because you have no wish to understand it. You just want to be angry and dismiss, which is fine by me but it offers you nothing.
At least when I answer to you I'm explaining a little bit more for those who are trying to understand without the need for bias or getting angry.
They can simply sit in silence and just read up.

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Because this is what happens in denpressure.
Yes, that is what happens when you have a pile of garbage which doesn't work at all and instead need to make up excuses for specific situations which show massive problems if you try to use them in other comparable situations.
Normally I would just bypass this stuff but I'm putting it in because it shows the frenzy and anger you display. Absolutely bitter as hell and I have a smile when you keep doing it.

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If you had a coherent model which actually worked to explain reality, you wouldn't need to do so.
I believe I have but you'll never understand it because you don't want to.

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It comes down to you understanding it
And I do understand it, in a far more relational manner than you.
No you don't. You absolutely do not understand it. It's blatantly clear.

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I take some of the BS you have said for one situation and demonstrate how it causes you problems for other situations.
It causes me no problems. The problem for you is not understanding it.


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Because you want to pretend your delusional BS works, you entirely ignore this and only ever focus on one tiny aspect at once, because you know that doing more makes your fantasy come crashing down.
To be brutally honest I think it gets stronger as time goes on.


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There's no contradiction, just a failure to understand from you.
Your wilful ignorance of these contradictions does not make them vanish, nor does it mean I don't understand.
Your wilful ignorance ensures you have little clue and it shows massively.


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To justify your delusional garbage, you would need to explain them, and that would require you to stay on topic and actually address what is said.
It's hard to stay on topic when you offer up so much change and cannot stick to one thing, just as data can't.

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It would also require you to consider multiple aspect of your model at once, and recognise the conflict between them.
There is no conflict.

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You're arguing against denpressure.
Yes, I am arguing agaisnt your delusional BS, but that doesn't mean we ignore English.
Don't steal words which already have meaning and pretend they mean something else.
I use my words as and when I choose. If you don't like that then don't correspond.
Either understand why I use them or stay ignorant.

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If you want your own delusional garbage with a different meaning, make up your own words and stop pretending to speak English.
I simply change the meaning to suit so get used to it..


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Mass is density so by adding mass you add density.
No, mass is NOT density.
Mass is an extensive property, depending upon how much you have. Density is an intensive property, which doesn't depend on how much you have.
1 kg of water has the same density as 2 kg of water.
No it's not.

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Gravity is fictional.
Your irrational hatred doesn't make it fictional.
I have no need to hate. I merely contest what I think is bullcrap and the globe is bullcrap and that mmeans everything used to promote it is also bullcrap.
It's that simple.
This is why gravity and a whole host of other stuff are fictional or merely a sidestep from what is really happening.
Such as gravity being denpressure but added to it to keep a spinning globe alive in a space vacuum of fiction.

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Again, unless you have a viable alternative, all the evidence supports gravity.
My alternative's been gently wafting in your face for long enough but when you're numb to the feeling you never perceive it.

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Gravity works as a coherent explanation for so much of reality.
Gravity works as a name that means nothing and is just another name assigned (by me) to the fiction shelf of a mind library.

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Your delusional BS repeatedly fails.
Not to me. To you, anything outside of your indoctrination box fails because you have no wish for it to be anything else.

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Not unless you have a strong resisting reactionary force to the decompressive force from the rocket s molecules.
Your extremely low-pressure environment offers absolutely nothing to react upon.
So you are saying the air resistance in this environment is negligible?
Nothing is negligible.

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Again, notice your contradiction?
You repeatedly need to contradict yourself to pretend your delusional BS can work and be justified.
It can and does.

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Either the atmosphere (and by extension its resistance) can NEVER be negligible, so even in an incredibly low pressure environment, commonly known as a vacuum, such as that which surrounds Earth, there will still be resistance and rockets can work; or, the atmosphere can be negligible, and we can discuss how in such an environment, at a given location on earth, objects accelerate downwards at the same rate. (notice how this time I said same, not fixed, because in this case the rate is the same for all objects in this environment, but changing the environment can change the rate, so it isn't fixed)
Nothing is ever fixed.

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Molecular layers.
Are you just trying to say layers made of molecules, or the actual layers which make up a molecule?
Layers within layers within layers. All molecules of various expanded layering are ready to decompress under energy vibration/friction and frequencies.

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It falls because it gains enough dense mass to be squeezed down through that added extra dense mass addition of displacement of the atmosphere.
But there is no air above it.
There is always an atmosphere above.


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There is just air below and to the sides. So how does the air push it down?
Atmosphere is all around.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #475 on: May 18, 2023, 12:13:26 AM »

It falls because it gains enough dense mass to be squeezed down through that added extra dense mass addition of displacement of the atmosphere.
But there is no air above it.
There is just air below and to the sides. So how does the air push it down?


Especially how does the water fall away from the ceiling if there can’t be free space or a void in den pressure?  Hmmmm  🤔
It's squeezed.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #476 on: May 18, 2023, 01:50:38 AM »

There is always an atmosphere above.


For a water droplet stuck to the underside of a ceiling or metal roof.  How is there atmosphere between the water droplet and the surface it’s clinging too?

And if there can never be a void in your delusion, how does it fall away from the ceiling.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #477 on: May 18, 2023, 03:43:45 AM »
what makes up molecules
Do molecules actually exist?
He (somebody) is a troll homo playing role of girl.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #478 on: May 18, 2023, 04:24:54 AM »

There is always an atmosphere above.


For a water droplet stuck to the underside of a ceiling or metal roof.  How is there atmosphere between the water droplet and the surface it’s clinging too?
There isn't. The ceiling or roof becomes the barrier to the squeezed up steam molecules and those molecules are held up by the denser layers below.


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And if there can never be a void in your delusion, how does it fall away from the ceiling.
Because the build-up of steam molecules being squeezed against starts to displace the layered mass around them as the droplet grows in a dense mass, so what you have is a droplet sitting in a displaced set of layers and those layers are compressed and decompress right back against the droplet to come in all-around at the ceiling from the sides to gradually compress it more and more until the droplet overcomes the dense mass layerings below it aided by the squeeze of the decompressing layers the droplet is already displacing by compressive force.

Put your mind to work and have a good think on what I've said.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #479 on: May 18, 2023, 04:32:39 AM »

steam molecules


What “steam”?  The water is at room temp and 1 atmosphere.  Added without going through latent heat at 100 degrees c…

😂😂😂


Because the build-up of steam

Stop.  Your reason the water droplet fell for other reasons than mass and gravity is unproven BS…



I work on dense mass displacement, so 50 ml will displace 10 times more atmosphere.

Den pressure isn’t a calibrated and accurate instrument for collecting data and actual observations to confirm statements like this  “It can't gain mass without gaining density.”


You posted this…

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I do not have any problem with general science as a whole and in-fact I am impressed with mans ability to harness the elements and produce wonders for which we all benefit in terms of comfort and technological advancement.

If I could sit down in front of you and ask you how you know about the stuff I argue against, your only answer is indoctrination by verbal or text or the vision of pictures made available to you, whether still or moving.



Have you made direct experiments with den pressure.


You posed this… “It can't gain mass without gaining density.”


So I posted this..

“Using your den pressure delusion.  What should the density of water be at 23.2 degrees Celsius.  City tap water.

What should the weight in grams modeling with the den pressure delusion be for water at 5ml, 10ml, 20ml, and 50ml.  For your delusion, what should be the increase in density from 5 ml of water to 50 ml of water?”


Surely you sceptimatic have taken the time to weigh water over a variety of volumes to chart out if “It can't gain mass without gaining density.”  What was your results from actual experiments? If den pressure isn’t a delusion can it actually predict the supposed change in density of water from 5 ml to 50 ml?”

Remember, you posted thus…


There is always an atmosphere above.


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