Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?

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Themightykabool

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #300 on: May 09, 2023, 01:29:03 AM »
Jes saying your inabiloty to use english like rhe rest of us is worse than my ability to type.



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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #301 on: May 09, 2023, 01:30:04 AM »
Jes saying your inabiloty to use english like rhe rest of us is worse than my ability to type.



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Who's Jes?

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #302 on: May 09, 2023, 01:48:29 AM »
t's up to each individual as to whether they want to try and understand denpressure from my side.

This is your delusion.  Den pressure fails like trying to navigate the southern hemisphere like it’s a flare earth.

Do you have a well laid out work logically listing the “laws” of den pressure.

Den pressure fails to even acknowledge that when air resistance is made negligible objects of different densities drop at the same rate.

You can throw as much word salad out as you want.  But den pressure is worthless.


Did you ever answer.  Would you allow you family to ride a roller coast designed with total disregard for gravity, and only designed off den pressure?


 

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #303 on: May 09, 2023, 02:10:38 AM »

Air/atmosphere is never free to move around. It's always attached whether it's super high pressure or super low pressure.


Lets use CO2.  It’s easy to separate from the atmosphere.  It’s easy to make pure and bottle.

You can fill a gas bottle with pure CO2 gas.  You can purge, fill and vent the gas bottle to insure the gas bottle is filled with pure CO2.  Say the gas bottle is now at 50 pounds pressure.  Vent the pressure until it’s at atmospheric pressure.  If it’s vented at sea level, it vents to atmospheric pressures at sea level.  Vent the bottle outside at 100,000 feet above sea level, it vents to that lower pressure.  (Why doesn’t den pressure work that way? Why did  the bottles equalize to two different pressures in the two different examples.  No gravity in den pressure).

Anyway.  Vent the pressure in the bottle.  Less CO2 molecules in the bottle per space.  Greater distance the molecules travel to run in to each other.  The molecules hit the gas bottle walls with less frequency, creating less pressure.

Add a little heat to the bottle, the CO2 molecules have more kinetic energy.  They move faster and bounce around with more frequency and force creating more pressure.  The molecules have free space.  They are compressible. 

Make a liquid by cooling the gas bottle, no more atmosphere.  The CO2 becomes a liquid that is not compressible.

You can do the same with steam and water.
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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #304 on: May 09, 2023, 02:23:59 AM »
It's up to each individual as to whether they want to try and understand denpressure from my side.
And it is up to you to produce a coherent model which could actually work to explain reality, and provide it to people.
You are yet to do that.

No it's not insulated by a vacuum.
Again, if you don't want to speak English, stop pretending to.
I did not say a PERFECT vacuum.

And regardless, you aren't helping yourself here.
You are just deflecting from your complete inability to explain reality.
It's simply a lower pressure of molecules under much less ability to transfer higher pressure, more agitated molecules through that lower pressure thermos cavity.

What metal cup?
The one above, which you just entirely ignored.

Yet again, you just play dumb to avoid the fact that your delusional BS is directly contradicted by reality.

Your pathetic deflections and pathetic assertions just demonstrate how dishonest and desperate you are.
Grow up, and try to actually address the issue.

Again, It is quite clear from these experiments that the atmosphere is NOT needed.
If you wish to claim otherwise, and not just be dismissed as a pathetic liar trying to con people into a pathetic fantasy, then you need to address these experiments.

It's all been explained. What you ignore of it is not my issue.
Repeating the same lie will not help you.
You have NEVER explained anything, because you can't.

Just look at this thread for how far you have run from a simple request to provide an experiment to prove your delusional BS.

You see it isn't just a plain black-and-white ideal with what you're trying to offer.
YOU are the one trying to offer black and white, by demanding the air is needed and lying by claiming that without it nothing works.

Every movement of molecules is work.
Again, if you don't want to speak English stop pretending to.
In English work is a quite specific thing, and it doesn't include every movement of molecules.
And it certainly is NOT heat.

I'm not falsely claiming it, I'm claiming it.
You ARE falsely claiming it, because it is false, and you are claiming it.

But again, you are using this BS claim to avoid the issue you were trying to argue, that the atmosphere is needed for everything.
Heat and work is irrelevant to that BS discussion of yours, as neither need the atmosphere.

It's never a by-product, it is always a product.
And more delusional BS.
If that was the case we would be doing whatever we can to increase heat, instead of decreasing it to make devices more efficient.

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And how is the transfer of heat dependent on a “gas”?  So, what do you mean by atmosphere? 
All molecules.
So you are saying that 1 kg block of lead is 1 kg of atmosphere. It doesn't displace that atmosphere, it IS that atmosphere?
No I'm not.
So you are saying your previous statement is a blatant lie? That NOT all molecules are the atmosphere?

I'm saying that every molecular makeup of any dense mass will always have porosity and that porosity is the atmospheric makeup.
You have repeated that delusional BS many times, but never justified it.


Space provides a fairy story. A fantasy.
No, you provide it, to escape from the harsh reality which includes space, which you clearly can't handle.

How does water heat the air?
Are you ever capable of actually responding to the issue? Or are you only capable of pathetic, dishonest deflections?

Again, the air pressure is higher inside.
Without gravity, the egg should be pushed up, and no longer create a seal.
Likewise, without a pulling force holding the glass together, it should disintegrate.

Your delusional BS fails to explain this simple experiment.

This relates back to the most parts of your delusional BS which you can't explain, why things go down at all, and how any solid matter holds itself together without pulling forces.

So care to get back to that and try explaining how your air magically pushes things in direct defiance of the known behaviour of gases by pushing from low pressure into high pressure?

As always, I do explain.
No, you don't. You NEVER explain. You just lie and claim to have explained.

Look at the above, what is your explanation for why the egg doesn't get pushed up? No where to be seen. Instead you just assert it rattles a bit.

What is your explanation for how the jar holds itself together? No where to be seen. Instead you just assert there can be no pulling force.

You NEVER explain, because you can't explain, because your delusional BS cannot match reality.

Try being honest for once in your life and admitting that you haven't explained it and actually try addressing the issues raised.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #305 on: May 09, 2023, 03:04:36 AM »
t's up to each individual as to whether they want to try and understand denpressure from my side.

This is your delusion.  Den pressure fails like trying to navigate the southern hemisphere like it’s a flare earth.
You're definitely struggling here.


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Do you have a well laid out work logically listing the “laws” of den pressure.
I'm happy with the way things are from my side.

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Den pressure fails to even acknowledge that when air resistance is made negligible objects of different densities drop at the same rate.

Atmospheric resistance is never made negligible.
The fact you believe in fictional vacuums is an immediate problem for you in terms of ever understanding denpressure.

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You can throw as much word salad out as you want.  But den pressure is worthless.
Gravity is worthless and you and others have never explained it to actually be anything other than fantasy.


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Did you ever answer.  Would you allow you family to ride a roller coast designed with total disregard for gravity, and only designed off den pressure?

Of course, roller coasters and anything else in life is not designed using fictional gravity.
If you think it is then explain how gravity is used. tell me how it's used and what is used.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #306 on: May 09, 2023, 03:10:02 AM »

Air/atmosphere is never free to move around. It's always attached whether it's super high pressure or super low pressure.


Lets use CO2.  It’s easy to separate from the atmosphere.  It’s easy to make pure and bottle.

You can fill a gas bottle with pure CO2 gas.  You can purge, fill and vent the gas bottle to insure the gas bottle is filled with pure CO2.  Say the gas bottle is now at 50 pounds pressure.  Vent the pressure until it’s at atmospheric pressure.  If it’s vented at sea level, it vents to atmospheric pressures at sea level.  Vent the bottle outside at 100,000 feet above sea level, it vents to that lower pressure.  (Why doesn’t den pressure work that way? Why did  the bottles equalize to two different pressures in the two different examples.  No gravity in den pressure).

Anyway.  Vent the pressure in the bottle.  Less CO2 molecules in the bottle per space.  Greater distance the molecules travel to run in to each other.  The molecules hit the gas bottle walls with less frequency, creating less pressure.

Add a little heat to the bottle, the CO2 molecules have more kinetic energy.  They move faster and bounce around with more frequency and force creating more pressure.  The molecules have free space.  They are compressible. 

Make a liquid by cooling the gas bottle, no more atmosphere.  The CO2 becomes a liquid that is not compressible.

You can do the same with steam and water.
I'll make this easy.

Every change in gases is due to adding or taking away.
Or shall I say, it comes down to pressures that require energy to achieve.


All of this energy change in gases and liquids is based on altering their dense mass makeup. As I mentioned before if you'd taken notice, which you clearly have not.

And as I have mentioned many times, molecules do not just bounce around in free space.
That comes back to your fantasy vacuum which you should know cannot exist.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #307 on: May 09, 2023, 03:11:25 AM »
It's up to each individual as to whether they want to try and understand denpressure from my side.
And it is up to you to produce a coherent model which could actually work to explain reality, and provide it to people.
You are yet to do that.

No it's not insulated by a vacuum.
Again, if you don't want to speak English, stop pretending to.
I did not say a PERFECT vacuum.

And regardless, you aren't helping yourself here.
You are just deflecting from your complete inability to explain reality.
It's simply a lower pressure of molecules under much less ability to transfer higher pressure, more agitated molecules through that lower pressure thermos cavity.

What metal cup?
The one above, which you just entirely ignored.

Yet again, you just play dumb to avoid the fact that your delusional BS is directly contradicted by reality.

Your pathetic deflections and pathetic assertions just demonstrate how dishonest and desperate you are.
Grow up, and try to actually address the issue.

Again, It is quite clear from these experiments that the atmosphere is NOT needed.
If you wish to claim otherwise, and not just be dismissed as a pathetic liar trying to con people into a pathetic fantasy, then you need to address these experiments.

It's all been explained. What you ignore of it is not my issue.
Repeating the same lie will not help you.
You have NEVER explained anything, because you can't.

Just look at this thread for how far you have run from a simple request to provide an experiment to prove your delusional BS.

You see it isn't just a plain black-and-white ideal with what you're trying to offer.
YOU are the one trying to offer black and white, by demanding the air is needed and lying by claiming that without it nothing works.

Every movement of molecules is work.
Again, if you don't want to speak English stop pretending to.
In English work is a quite specific thing, and it doesn't include every movement of molecules.
And it certainly is NOT heat.

I'm not falsely claiming it, I'm claiming it.
You ARE falsely claiming it, because it is false, and you are claiming it.

But again, you are using this BS claim to avoid the issue you were trying to argue, that the atmosphere is needed for everything.
Heat and work is irrelevant to that BS discussion of yours, as neither need the atmosphere.

It's never a by-product, it is always a product.
And more delusional BS.
If that was the case we would be doing whatever we can to increase heat, instead of decreasing it to make devices more efficient.

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Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

And how is the transfer of heat dependent on a “gas”?  So, what do you mean by atmosphere? 
All molecules.
So you are saying that 1 kg block of lead is 1 kg of atmosphere. It doesn't displace that atmosphere, it IS that atmosphere?
No I'm not.
So you are saying your previous statement is a blatant lie? That NOT all molecules are the atmosphere?

I'm saying that every molecular makeup of any dense mass will always have porosity and that porosity is the atmospheric makeup.
You have repeated that delusional BS many times, but never justified it.


Space provides a fairy story. A fantasy.
No, you provide it, to escape from the harsh reality which includes space, which you clearly can't handle.

How does water heat the air?
Are you ever capable of actually responding to the issue? Or are you only capable of pathetic, dishonest deflections?

Again, the air pressure is higher inside.
Without gravity, the egg should be pushed up, and no longer create a seal.
Likewise, without a pulling force holding the glass together, it should disintegrate.

Your delusional BS fails to explain this simple experiment.

This relates back to the most parts of your delusional BS which you can't explain, why things go down at all, and how any solid matter holds itself together without pulling forces.

So care to get back to that and try explaining how your air magically pushes things in direct defiance of the known behaviour of gases by pushing from low pressure into high pressure?

As always, I do explain.
No, you don't. You NEVER explain. You just lie and claim to have explained.

Look at the above, what is your explanation for why the egg doesn't get pushed up? No where to be seen. Instead you just assert it rattles a bit.

What is your explanation for how the jar holds itself together? No where to be seen. Instead you just assert there can be no pulling force.

You NEVER explain, because you can't explain, because your delusional BS cannot match reality.

Try being honest for once in your life and admitting that you haven't explained it and actually try addressing the issues raised.
This entire post is just angry ranting and doesn't deserve any answer other than this.
I'd suggest you calm down.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #308 on: May 09, 2023, 03:17:26 AM »
You're definitely struggling here.

Oh.  No.  You can’t even use den pressure to model a simple ball drop as gravity in entry level physics.




I'm happy with the way things are from my side.

A useless model that contradicts itself.



Atmospheric resistance is never made negligible.

And yet you can’t explain why a feather and a bowling ball drop at the same rate.  With you providing no accurate modeling.




Gravity is worthless and you and others have never explained it to actually be anything other than fantasy.

It at least explains and accurately predicts tides.

And able to explain why rockets have stable flight when the center of gravity is ahead of center of pressure.

Of course, roller coasters and anything else in life is not designed using fictional gravity.
If you think it is then explain how gravity is used. tell me how it's used and what is used.


Gravity has repeatedly been shown how it is used and taken into account in many designs by many different people.  Rockets to accelerometers.

You haven’t shown how to use den pressure to model anything with accuracy. 
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #309 on: May 09, 2023, 03:20:25 AM »

I'll make this easy.

Every change in gases is due to adding or taking away.
Or shall I say, it comes down to pressures that require energy to achieve.


All of this energy change in gases and liquids is based on altering their dense mass makeup. As I mentioned before if you'd taken notice, which you clearly have not.

And as I have mentioned many times, molecules do not just bounce around in free space.
That comes back to your fantasy vacuum which you should know cannot exist.

Meaningless word salad that ignores how pressure is created, why gasses are compressible and liquids are not, and what happens when a gas bottle filled with pure CO2 is refrigerated so the gas turns into a liquid. 

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #310 on: May 09, 2023, 03:32:55 AM »
You're definitely struggling here.

Oh.  No.  You can’t even use den pressure to model a simple ball drop as gravity in entry level physics.




I'm happy with the way things are from my side.

A useless model that contradicts itself.



Atmospheric resistance is never made negligible.

And yet you can’t explain why a feather and a bowling ball drop at the same rate.  With you providing no accurate modeling.




Gravity is worthless and you and others have never explained it to actually be anything other than fantasy.

It at least explains and accurately predicts tides.

And able to explain why rockets have stable flight when the center of gravity is ahead of center of pressure.

Of course, roller coasters and anything else in life is not designed using fictional gravity.
If you think it is then explain how gravity is used. tell me how it's used and what is used.


Gravity has repeatedly been shown how it is used and taken into account in many designs by many different people.  Rockets to accelerometers.

You haven’t shown how to use den pressure to model anything with accuracy.
As I said, you offer nothing other than copy and paste and have no means to prove anything you say.

The only thing you have going for you is adherence to the mass opinion of a story of fantasy offered as factual.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #311 on: May 09, 2023, 03:35:59 AM »

As I said, you offer nothing other than copy and paste and have no means to prove anything you say.

The only thing you have going for you is adherence to the mass opinion of a story of fantasy offered as factual.

This?

An actual documented experiment.



That proves den pressure fails as a model.


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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #312 on: May 09, 2023, 03:41:11 AM »

I'll make this easy.

Every change in gases is due to adding or taking away.
Or shall I say, it comes down to pressures that require energy to achieve.


All of this energy change in gases and liquids is based on altering their dense mass makeup. As I mentioned before if you'd taken notice, which you clearly have not.

And as I have mentioned many times, molecules do not just bounce around in free space.
That comes back to your fantasy vacuum which you should know cannot exist.

Meaningless word salad that ignores how pressure is created, why gasses are compressible and liquids are not, and what happens when a gas bottle filled with pure CO2 is refrigerated so the gas turns into a liquid.
Liquids are compressible but it requires a hell of a lot of energy to do so, depending on the liquid.

And your co2 gas to liquid requires compression.
Denpressure comes into that and not gravity so what are you trying to offer or are you just looking stuff up and offering what you think has some kind of merit?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #313 on: May 09, 2023, 03:43:10 AM »

As I said, you offer nothing other than copy and paste and have no means to prove anything you say.

The only thing you have going for you is adherence to the mass opinion of a story of fantasy offered as factual.

This?

An actual documented experiment.



That proves den pressure fails as a model.
That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.

And regardless of you offering lower pressure to dense mass it still comes under denpressure...massively.
It does not offer anything to do with fictional gravity.


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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #314 on: May 09, 2023, 03:50:11 AM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.

Why?  Because it shows how den pressure is a failed model.

When the event was documented?

And results are reproducible?



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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #315 on: May 09, 2023, 03:51:26 AM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.


Speaking of which.  What is your experiment to prove den pressure. 

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #316 on: May 09, 2023, 04:08:56 AM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.


Speaking of which.  What is your experiment to prove den pressure.
Let the crickets sing.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #317 on: May 09, 2023, 05:00:42 AM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.

Why?  Because it shows how den pressure is a failed model.

When the event was documented?

And results are reproducible?


Back to this again.
Lower pressure equals lower resistance to a dense mass.
Pay attention to what I already said on this.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #318 on: May 09, 2023, 05:02:05 AM »
And as I have mentioned many times, molecules do not just bounce around in free space.
And as I have explained many times, you asserting delusional BS doesn't make it true.

The available evidence shows beyond any sane doubt that free space is real.
You not liking reality will not change it.

If you want to argue against free space, and appear to have even a shred of integrity, you need to explain what is currently explained by free space; which you refuse to do.

You have no justification at all for why free space can't exist. The sole reason you appear to reject it is so you can reject space.
Just like the sole reason to reject pulling forces is to reject gravity.

This entire post is just angry ranting and doesn't deserve any answer other than this.
I'd suggest you calm down.
It isn't angry ranting. It is calling you out on your repeated dishonest BS.

I suggest you calm down, and try to explain something rather than repeatedly asserting the same refuted BS.

Why don't you start with the most basic thing and build from there.
Considering you claim the atmosphere stacking is the magic that drives it all, try explaining why the atmosphere stacks.

Remember, simply telling us that it does is NOT explaining it.

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.
You mean it shows you are wrong, so you dismiss it as fake.
You can't show a fault with it, you just hate it.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #319 on: May 09, 2023, 05:05:29 AM »
That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.
You mean it shows you are wrong, so you dismiss it as fake.
You can't show a fault with it, you just hate it.
You certainly can't prove it's a reality. You can certainly offer a video as your proof to yourself but don't expect me to believe in that utter garbage.

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Mikey T.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #320 on: May 09, 2023, 07:23:42 AM »
Notice the lack of an explanation on stacking. 
The crickets are getting louder.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #321 on: May 09, 2023, 08:20:09 AM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.

Why?  Because it shows how den pressure is a failed model.

When the event was documented?

And results are reproducible?


Back to this again.
Lower pressure equals lower resistance to a dense mass.
Pay attention to what I already said on this.

You still have:

One, failed to explain why the coins and feathers fall at the same rate in a vacuum.

Two, failed to explain why things fall faster in a vacuum.

Three, you ave failed to model / show when air resistance is made negligible there is correlation between rate of drops and density.

Four, you have failed with den pressure to model what the change in the rate of drop should be between a feather and a coin when air resistance is made negligible.  When existing experiments show they drop at the same rate in a vacuum tube at vacuum.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #322 on: May 09, 2023, 08:59:40 AM »
Notice the lack of an explanation on stacking. 
The crickets are getting louder.
There's been plenty of explanation on stacking.
Feel free to look back, or don't. Your choice.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #323 on: May 09, 2023, 09:03:39 AM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.

Why?  Because it shows how den pressure is a failed model.

When the event was documented?

And results are reproducible?


Back to this again.
Lower pressure equals lower resistance to a dense mass.
Pay attention to what I already said on this.

You still have:

One, failed to explain why the coins and feathers fall at the same rate in a vacuum.
They don't fall at the same rate and there is no such thing as a vacuum.


Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

Two, failed to explain why things fall faster in a vacuum.
There is no such thing as a vacuum.

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

Three, you ave failed to model / show when air resistance is made negligible there is correlation between rate of drops and density.
Atmospheric resistance is never negligible.

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

Four, you have failed with den pressure to model what the change in the rate of drop should be between a feather and a coin when air resistance is made negligible.
As above.

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

  When existing experiments show they drop at the same rate in a vacuum tube at vacuum.
There is no experiment that shows this.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #324 on: May 09, 2023, 10:13:57 AM »

They don't fall at the same rate and there is no such thing as a vacuum.


Yet the experiment shows when air resistance is made negligible, the feather and coin fall at the same rate.



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Two, failed to explain why things fall faster in a vacuum.
There is no such thing as a vacuum.

Still doesn’t explain why things fall faster as air is drawn out of the tube.  And air resistance can become negligible where a feather and coin drop at the same rate.

Atmospheric resistance is never negligible.

Then why do the feathers and ball drop the same rate.




There is no experiment that shows this.



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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #325 on: May 09, 2023, 10:16:11 AM »
That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.
You mean it shows you are wrong, so you dismiss it as fake.
You can't show a fault with it, you just hate it.
You certainly can't prove it's a reality. You can certainly offer a video as your proof to yourself but don't expect me to believe in that utter garbage.

Ironic from a person that can’t even come up with an experiment to prove delusional den pressure in a thread literally to come up with an experiment to prove den pressure. 

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #326 on: May 09, 2023, 12:58:51 PM »

That so-called experiment is a load of old pony.
It's a big con job.

Why?  Because it shows how den pressure is a failed model.

When the event was documented?

And results are reproducible?


Back to this again.
Lower pressure equals lower resistance to a dense mass.
Pay attention to what I already said on this.

You still have:

One, failed to explain why the coins and feathers fall at the same rate in a vacuum.
They don't fall at the same rate and there is no such thing as a vacuum.


Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

Two, failed to explain why things fall faster in a vacuum.
There is no such thing as a vacuum.

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

Three, you ave failed to model / show when air resistance is made negligible there is correlation between rate of drops and density.
Atmospheric resistance is never negligible.

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022

Four, you have failed with den pressure to model what the change in the rate of drop should be between a feather and a coin when air resistance is made negligible.
As above.

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  When existing experiments show they drop at the same rate in a vacuum tube at vacuum.
There is no experiment that shows this.

What do you mean, there is no such thing as a vacuum?

Air creates air resistance. A vacuum chamber, being a chamber with all the air removed, is a chamber with an absence of air resistance.

This is why inside a vacuum chamber, a feather and a bowling ball, when dropped at the same time, fall at exactly the same speed and hit the bottom at exactly the same time. This does not happen in a normal air filled chamber or environment.
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #327 on: May 09, 2023, 01:48:58 PM »
Vacuums are in fact not empty space but have a permittivity and permeability which determines the speed of light.
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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #328 on: May 09, 2023, 02:16:53 PM »
You certainly can't prove it's a reality.
To you, no; because you will reject any evidence provided that doesn't match your delusional fantasy, and you wont do the experiment yourself.

And again, you continue to deflect from your complete inability to explain anything.

There's been plenty of explanation on stacking.
Only from the RE side.
You only provide observations that stacking occurs. No explanation for why it occurs or how it maintains the pressure gradient.

There is no such thing as a vacuum.
Again, if you don't want to speak English, stop pretending to.
A vacuum doesn't need to be perfect.

Atmospheric resistance is never negligible.
Wilful rejection of reality wont help you.
Plenty of experiments, including some you can easily replicate yourself, easily demonstrate that it can be quite negligible.

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Re: Experiment ideas to prove Denpressure?
« Reply #329 on: May 09, 2023, 02:28:05 PM »
Vacuums are in fact not empty space but have a permittivity and permeability which determines the speed of light.

in context of relation to 1atmospheres or inside the container vs outside the container.

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