War

I agree that social media was a mistake, and also the Azov stuff. Shit, there are people calling themselves Nazis in every country.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-jk-rowling-to-personally-match-emergency-appeal-funding-up-to-1m-as-children-face-uncertain-future-12559934

Ukraine war: JK Rowling to personally match emergency appeal funding up to £1m as children face "uncertain future"

The Harry Potter author praises the "crucial work" of the Lumos Foundation, which she founded, as it supports vulnerable children in the country, some of whom face separation from their families, while the conflict continues...

The charity has been working in the Zhytomyr region in northwest Ukraine, and estimates that prior to the Russian invasion there were more than 1,500 children trapped in orphanages in the region, and around 100,000 children living in institutions in the country.

The charity says children in the country "face an uncertain future" and are at risk of displacement and family separation.

Meanwhile JKR and Lumos are trying to save the children. She is awesome.

Ukrainians must reject JKR's charity or else they are transphobic!

That's good that so many people are helping.  I think we're up to 1.5 million refugees so far.

My employer has a 200% match for employees donating to Ukrainian refugees.

The list I have is:
American National Red Cross ID 53-0196605
Americares Foundation ID 06-1008595
Direct Relief ID 95-1831116
International Medical Corps ID 95-3949646
International Rescue Committee ID 13-5660870
Project HOPE ID 53-0242962

Presumably they've done their homework on these charities so they should be solid.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on March 07, 2022, 07:51:46 AM

Here's an example of some propaganda being spread https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1500716991673421828?s=20&t=tTWE0Fd87jtjBY6VBJ61vw  (not by Borzou Daragahi, he's pointing it out)

Most of the propaganda I see on Twitter is trying to make Ukraine the bad guys, the pro Ukraine propaganda is usually something like the Ukraine ghost pilot thing, which the media tends to hop on and spread because it's so heroic and everyone wants to believe.

Social media was a mistake.

Coming down from the trees was a mistake.

Always with the Azov battalion.  I'm pretty sure that either as a percentage or actual numbers we have more nazis in our military than Ukraine does.

Absolutely, there are way more fascists in Russia. 

Check out their Wagner Group  for starters. 

The far right got demolished in the last election in Ukraine.  They got 2% of the vote - lower than many Western european countries.

And though Azov does have fascists and other unsavories in it,  many of the members are not.  It is also Russian speaking!

Quote from: Lorddave on March 07, 2022, 07:55:02 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on March 07, 2022, 07:51:46 AM

Here's an example of some propaganda being spread https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1500716991673421828?s=20&t=tTWE0Fd87jtjBY6VBJ61vw  (not by Borzou Daragahi, he's pointing it out)

Most of the propaganda I see on Twitter is trying to make Ukraine the bad guys, the pro Ukraine propaganda is usually something like the Ukraine ghost pilot thing, which the media tends to hop on and spread because it's so heroic and everyone wants to believe.

Social media was a mistake.

Coming down from the trees was a mistake.

Nah.  We should never have left the oceans.

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1500886096837849099?s=20&t=UA1LqEV6Azrw2prY2ds5Zg

FM #Lavrov: The goal of Russia’s special military operation is to stop any war that could take place on Ukrainian territory or that could start from there.

OH, that makes sense. lol

Clearly there's no defending Russia's actions.  About the only thing Russian ambassadors can do is have fun with ridiculous lies.  I can respect that.  Might as well bring some humor to the situation.

Look, they spent 8 years, arming and fueling a rebellion and it hasn't taken the whole country.
America did it in Iran in a year.
At some point you just gotta cut your losses and do it yourself.

This is the footage from the Austrian climate change protest that was altered. I don't know why anyone fell for it because it's so shitty, but they did https://twitter.com/userunknvvn/status/1500481420761911300?s=20&t=yFT3o7xP5UtTjJomPp1RtQ 

Our good friend B.o.B. retweeted it. lol

It's like the jesus.

This is the footage from the Austrian climate change protest that was altered. I don't know why anyone fell for it because it's so shitty, but they did https://twitter.com/userunknvvn/status/1500481420761911300?s=20&t=yFT3o7xP5UtTjJomPp1RtQ 

Our good friend B.o.B. retweeted it. lol

Shit, Twitter took it down already.

Shit, Twitter took it down already.

twitur r r god

This is the footage from the Austrian climate change protest that was altered. I don't know why anyone fell for it because it's so shitty, but they did https://twitter.com/userunknvvn/status/1500481420761911300?s=20&t=yFT3o7xP5UtTjJomPp1RtQ 

Our good friend B.o.B. retweeted it. lol

I was wondering what that really was about.

This seems like a major security failure by the FSB.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1500976514447331330

I wonder who took down era?   ( era is the Russian Military encrypted comms system ) 

Oh, wait they took out the 3G/4G cell towers, and Era needs 3G/4G... 

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1500973926436020226

Russia is going to lose.

But that was not the point. The point is that Boydster thinks the pre written article that was posted by accident on the website of a state news outlet proves he wants to annex Ukraine. I don't think it proves anything because I don't think Putin tells them everything he is planning.

You somehow don't think articles written by a state run propaganda outlet aren't saying exactly what Putin wants?

Those 'news outlets' say whatever he tells them to.

So we 'stand with Ukraine' and
We recognise it's sovereignty
We say the war is illegal. Barbaric. Like history repeating itself like in the 1940s when Germany tried to invade its neighbours.

But when this sovereign nation pleads with us to help.... Invites us to their country.... - we say no. Because their aggressor who is currently trying to wipe them out says 'no'. So why exactly are we letting Russia call the shots here?

So we 'stand with Ukraine' and
We recognise it's sovereignty
We say the war is illegal. Barbaric. Like history repeating itself like in the 1940s when Germany tried to invade its neighbours.

But when this sovereign nation pleads with us to help.... Invites us to their country.... - we say no. Because their aggressor who is currently trying to wipe them out says 'no'. So why exactly are we letting Russia call the shots here?

This would not have happened if Trump was in charge. 

Obviously. If trump were still president he'd probably authorize a nuclear strike on Kiev.

Obviously. If trump were still president he'd probably authorize a nuclear strike on Kiev.

why?  nothing would be going on.   

So we 'stand with Ukraine' and
We recognise it's sovereignty
We say the war is illegal. Barbaric. Like history repeating itself like in the 1940s when Germany tried to invade its neighbours.

But when this sovereign nation pleads with us to help.... Invites us to their country.... - we say no. Because their aggressor who is currently trying to wipe them out says 'no'. So why exactly are we letting Russia call the shots here?

Yeah it grates on me a bit to stand by and watch this happen. Maybe we'll get lucky and we'll force the Russian economy to implode before Ukraine is overrun.

We're against direct conflict now but if we see a lot of civilians getting butchered then our opinion might change.

Or maybe Russia will get frustrated by all the weapons flowing in from Poland and decide to attack them which will draw us in.

Once-upon-a-time Germany did this.
Why is the world not curb stomping Puto?

Money?  Yep, priorities.

. . . . . but if we see a lot of civilians getting butchered then our opinion might change.

When do you think civilians will be targeted?

Once-upon-a-time Germany did this.
Why is the world not curb stomping Puto?

Money?  Yep, priorities.

What money do upper brass N koreans have?

Quote from: Crouton on March 07, 2022, 07:39:38 PM

. . . . . but if we see a lot of civilians getting butchered then our opinion might change.

When do you think civilians will be targeted?

Civilians are being targeted now.  Russia just hasn't moved into the phase where they get frustrated and start mass murdering the population.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 07, 2022, 07:54:39 PM

Once-upon-a-time Germany did this.
Why is the world not curb stomping Puto?

Money?  Yep, priorities.

What money do upper brass N koreans have?

Sorry, not money, Capital. 
Capital is anything of value. 
North Korea has China. That is Value.


That's what's funny about their saber rattling. 
Not sure why we don't just slam the door and tell him to gobble on a sweaty dick.

Interlocutors make money. They don't care about dead babies.

no - CHINA has north korea.
north korea has nothing but receiving scraps from china and 60yrs of brain washing.
2generations.
that's quite a bit.

after learning about russia-ukraine-nato i can see why USSR and China fought reaaaaal hard to keep those buffer countries "free" from the US "freedom".

Once-upon-a-time Germany did this.
Why is the world not curb stomping Puto?

Money?  Yep, priorities.

The short answer, nuclear missiles.

The slightly longer answer, a wise man once said that the greatest impediment to understanding the decisions made in our past is that we know their future.

doesn't that go against the "hindsight 2020" and "bound to repeat it"?

Quote from: Bullwinkle on March 07, 2022, 07:54:39 PM

Once-upon-a-time Germany did this.
Why is the world not curb stomping Puto?

Money?  Yep, priorities.

The short answer, nuclear missiles.

The slightly longer answer, a wise man once said that the greatest impediment to understanding the decisions made in our past is that we know their future.

True,  i spite of the trivial prognostications of idiots like Pez about what Putin might or might not do,  there is only one real question that I'd like to know the answer to and that is if pushed into a corner with no way to save face and or survive, will Putin resort to nuclear weapons?

History of the man suggests he is capable of it.  That should scare the bejeezus out of all of us.  It would be a grave mistake to leave him with no way out.

weren't sleeper agents given suicide tooths?
isnt' that the way to go?
suicide vs genocide/ mega-mass murder?