The Music Experiment

First: https://open.spotify.com/track/0Fw2tZHzWdIeVsdOFKekcK?si=94f22cfc3b174a3e

So, as I am out in the wilderness with a phone and a float I decided to find a proof of the earth not being a globe.

I swam, like few have done before, to obvlivion.

And as such endeavors prove to joy - it was found. Rather than travel to the docks, I instead took my mind to the sky. As light pollution is quite a bit of a problem - as of recent - I decided to take it a bit further out. I found myself not at the docks but instead an island, after perhaps a moment or two of swimming. Off the coast of the Carolinas - I saw it.

I landed on the shore, spent a moment to take a breath and started the experiment.

It was not long before the results were apparent.

Any man might take a simple rig, a string and some piece of metal that might carry resonance and through collaboration know or measure the distance to a shore. Ringing such a bell, and calculating the angles and resonance correctly such a person might hear the wonderful echo backwards to themselves.

And make no mistake - this bell rings with the essence of truth - for who can deny the bell's toll.

Never the less, given the curve of the earth, this resonance would be as impossible as any other nonsense like moon bouncing radio signals. And yet - it rings clear like a siren. Perhaps the tales of old weren't as silly as we thought.

Time to figure out how to swim back home.

What a lovely strawman argument.  It really was kinda nice.  So why can't sound waves resonate over a curve?  Bet you a dollar your gonna lie.  Story was enjoyable though.

What a lovely strawman argument.  It really was kinda nice.  So why can't sound waves resonate over a curve?  Bet you a dollar your gonna lie.  Story was enjoyable though.

I read it twice and couldn't work out what the hell he was on about.  Can you translate?

I read it twice and couldn't work out what the hell he was on about.

Three times for me and same problem.

Time to figure out how to swim back home.

Try sounding the bell in the water as you swim back. I bet you could map the terrain of the ocean floor and echo-locate a school of fish or two. Be safe (sharks and all that).

I read it twice and couldn't work out what the hell he was on about.  Can you translate?

Basically I get it as something like this:
Sound travels in straight line, and is unable to through terrain.
This is why if you don't have line of sight to someone or something, you cannot hear it.
If you want to talk to someone in another room, make sure you can see them, or they wont be able to hear you.

Now, with this particular setup, he could hear a sound that should require passing through Earth if Earth was round, which the above indicates is impossible. So Earth must be flat.


Alternatively:
I'm high/drunk/off my meds, ... ksdjgfnkzsujhhf smulkgguykhsedsfvsjd

Way off man. But not a bad interpretation.

Which?

Which?

Does it matter?

I'm a musician,
I keep this post.

John, do you know what atmospheric inversion is and how that might affect sound wave propagation?  In particular, in this experiment, you're performing this from an island in the Atlantic, surrounded by water.  That water will have a cooling effect on the air, especially the air close to it.  As you gain altitude, that temperature gradient will go from cooler air, to warmer air, and then likely back to cool again.  Those layers of air with differing temperatures will change how sound moves through them.

This is in the same bucket as the string experiment.  I'm curious if you've actually tried this, if you have any data to show for it, or if you have the process in steps for us to try and recreate it.  No, your poetic narrative, while very nice, does not suffice.   

First: https://open.spotify.com/track/0Fw2tZHzWdIeVsdOFKekcK?si=94f22cfc3b174a3e

So, as I am out in the wilderness with a phone and a float I decided to find a proof of the earth not being a globe.

I swam, like few have done before, to obvlivion.

And as such endeavors prove to joy - it was found. Rather than travel to the docks, I instead took my mind to the sky. As light pollution is quite a bit of a problem - as of recent - I decided to take it a bit further out. I found myself not at the docks but instead an island, after perhaps a moment or two of swimming. Off the coast of the Carolinas - I saw it.

I landed on the shore, spent a moment to take a breath and started the experiment.

It was not long before the results were apparent.

Any man might take a simple rig, a string and some piece of metal that might carry resonance and through collaboration know or measure the distance to a shore. Ringing such a bell, and calculating the angles and resonance correctly such a person might hear the wonderful echo backwards to themselves.

And make no mistake - this bell rings with the essence of truth - for who can deny the bell's toll.

Never the less, given the curve of the earth, this resonance would be as impossible as any other nonsense like moon bouncing radio signals. And yet - it rings clear like a siren. Perhaps the tales of old weren't as silly as we thought.

No, but modern tales can be.  Much like this tale, because that is all this is, a tale.

You set out to find proof, and by the lack of proof presented, I'm guessing you found none.  Should have kept going until your reached "obvlivion."

First: https://open.spotify.com/track/0Fw2tZHzWdIeVsdOFKekcK?si=94f22cfc3b174a3e

So, as I am out in the wilderness with a phone and a float I decided to find a proof of the earth not being a globe.

I swam, like few have done before, to obvlivion.

And as such endeavors prove to joy - it was found. Rather than travel to the docks, I instead took my mind to the sky. As light pollution is quite a bit of a problem - as of recent - I decided to take it a bit further out. I found myself not at the docks but instead an island, after perhaps a moment or two of swimming. Off the coast of the Carolinas - I saw it.

I landed on the shore, spent a moment to take a breath and started the experiment.

It was not long before the results were apparent.

Any man might take a simple rig, a string and some piece of metal that might carry resonance and through collaboration know or measure the distance to a shore. Ringing such a bell, and calculating the angles and resonance correctly such a person might hear the wonderful echo backwards to themselves.

And make no mistake - this bell rings with the essence of truth - for who can deny the bell's toll.

Never the less, given the curve of the earth, this resonance would be as impossible as any other nonsense like moon bouncing radio signals. And yet - it rings clear like a siren. Perhaps the tales of old weren't as silly as we thought.

You swam to oblivion? Is that where you get your ideas from John?

Which tales of old are you referring to?

But John, people bounce radio waves and lasers off the moon regularly. Have you actually given it a go? Just dismissing it out of hand because it gets in the way of what you believe is not how things work John. You would actually need to set up an experiment to prove radio waves can’t be bounced of the moon rather that just saying they can’t. Then publish said experiment along with your results. The problem is John there is lots of info out there that show how with the right equipment snd some dedication  one can indeed bounce radio waves of the moon.
https://rsgb.org/main/technical/space-satellites/moonbounce/

It’s up to you to prove they can’t John .

Wow I see your experiment has prompted a really lively discussion….was that a tumble weed rolling by? Flat of course.

Sound was found very recently to not actually travel in a straight line.

Google, my case in point: "A research team has discovered a new type of sound wave: the airborne sound wave vibrates transversely and carries both spin and orbital angular momentum like light does. The findings shattered scientists' previous beliefs about the sound wave, opening an avenue to the development of novel applications in acoustic communications, acoustic sensing and imaging."

I don't know if OPs experiment, however beautiful it sounds, would come up with much conclusive evidence. One way or another. It sounds a lot like "The Bedford Level experiment" but only instead of visible distance, OP talks about using sound as a distance measure.

Or something.