Why wouldn't someone who is diagnosed disphoria, has transitioned or is on their way to and are legally recognized as their new gender by a court be denied to be counted among them?
Trans women are women. They have gone through great pains to be able to be so. And yet some people reduce them to walking cocks infiltrating women's spaces to rape everyone there. Don't mind that many of them don't even have one anymore. I find it mindboggling.
How do you feel about someone like Bruce Jenner spending decades as a man now being a spokesperson for women as if he has lived as a woman his whole life?
The same way I feel about any man who promotes women's rights?
The same way I feel about a straight person who speaks out against homophobia.
The same way I feel about a white person who says slavery was wrong.
The same way I feel about a Christian who pushes back against anti-semitism.
You don't have to be part of a group to support them.
Please red the emphasised part I made
Men speaking out for women's rights do it because it's decent. Not pretending they are women
Same for your other examples
A white person speaking out against slavery among African Americans as well. They do it because it's right. Not pretending the understand what it is to live as a black man.
Jenner may as well have tattooed his skin black and speak out against black oppression. You can't go from male to real female just as you can't go from white to black. There's a critical element that surgery and hormones can never give a trans person. Life experience
No problem with him speaking out on issues regarding trans or defending women. Any decent person does this. It's when they pretend to understand what it's like to be the other side - that is what's BS
Well it seems to me all those options are the same. You are the one making a distinction because you are offended somehow because they are trans and speaking out. You can't even call her by her real name or correct gender, and that is very telling. She has every right to speak out on any subject she wants no matter how much she makes you uncomfortable.
I mean, here you are, telling someone who walks around in a dress and looks like a woman and gets treated like a woman... that she has no idea what her own experience is like. That is what's BS.
Her own experience is 65 years as a man living with the privilege it entails
Also read where I said I'm happy to call him Caitlin or that he identifies as a woman. Whatever, I don't see him as a woman. So? In his case especially because it came off the back of a TV show and a court case where he had killed someone in an at fault car accident.
So I'm just cynical in his case. Im entitled to my cynacism. Other people who don't have celebrity status and not looking to show off to the world or boost TV show ratings? I'd trust their reasons far more. People who live in cultures where the idea they are not their gender or attracted to the same sex would get them killed - I'd trust they were genuine. Bruce/Caitlin? Nah. Just another celebrity fearing irrelevance in their old age
Look if he can fake it at the same time deliver positive messages and normalise the trans that they are ok, that can at least have some net benefit. But let's not pretend you can live 65 years as a bloke, put on a dress and say 'actually, I'm a woman' (I know he also took the hormones)
I get that people can have dysphoria. But I also think we confuse the hell out of kids too
My sons favourite colour is pink. What happens if I tell him constantly. Pink is not a boys colour. Only girls like pink. It would confuse the hell out of him. It's not going to stop him being his favourite but it may mind fuck him to think maybe he's not a boy afterall.
Kids should be free to express and choose. If that means a boy likes pink, plays with dolls and puts on a princess outfit, that's fine. That is what needs to be normalised. Not told 'no that's wrong'
And if in the future they grow up and feel feminine and are attracted to men - that needs to be told that's ok too. Not 'oh there must have been a mix up when you were a developing fetus. You were supposed to be a girl actually. Your penis is wrong'
Then perhaps trans people can feel comfortable in their bodies
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