If gravity does not exist, how do accelerometers in phones work

Quote from: turtles on July 01, 2019, 12:45:06 PM

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 05:49:30 AM

Quote from: turtles on June 18, 2019, 04:02:31 AM

But evolution and the big bang have not been proven wrong. Just because you reject all the evidence for them just means that your faith is more important to you than reality.

Meanwhile they have not proven. So why not God but Big Bang, because it is a better theory? But it isn'T. You have nothing but BS.

Evolution and the big bang fit the evidence. God doesn't.

Which evidence?

And therein lies the source of all your beliefs and why you can't win any of the arguements here.

These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them.
One is nearly 25 times heavier than the other.

And when you think about it:

One object has his speed of fall.
25 such objects together will have the same speed.
Now melt them or glue them together and they will have no reason to change that speed.

One object of 1 gram,
or ten objects of 1 gram,
or 1 object of 10 grams,
all will fall at the same speed,
joined together or not.

Several sky divers will not fall slower or faster if they do or don't just hold their hands.
Other factors will affect their speed, but this one won't.

Quote from: Ozymandias74 on May 23, 2019, 07:43:05 PM

I have not seen the question asked before, but how do flat earthers explain how a cell phone/tablet can tell 'up' and 'down' and rotate the screen accordingly.
They have an accelerometer built into them, which measures gravity and allows the phone to tell which way is down.
https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/smartphones-change-orientation-horizontal-landscape-gravity-sensor-accelerometer.html is a link that explains the basics of how such a device works in a cell phone.   
If gravity does not exist, then how do flat earthers explain such a function in a cell phone. 
However flat earthers explain such a phenomenon, I challenge you to ask Apple/Samsung/etc how their phones are designed, are they designed around <insert your theory here> or are they designed around gravity.   See what their response is.

This is a really fun forum. According to the question asked, it should actually be answered by someone who believes in the flat world or who does not believe in gravitation. but the answer is just to ridicule the flat earthers.

Even so I want to put forward the perspective of majority of flat earthers. There may be people think something else. I want to share my thoughts.

Accelerometers in phones work like how other navigation devices. your mobile phone is part of a network and its location is shared tens times per second. You can learn your speed, acceleration, position, altitude and other information instantly thanks to the continuously updated position information.

faded mike agrees

Quote from: wise on May 23, 2019, 11:23:07 PM

Accelerometers in phones work like how other navigation devices. your mobile phone is part of a network and its location is shared tens times per second. You can learn your speed, acceleration, position, altitude and other information instantly thanks to the continuously updated position information.

faded mike agrees

Well explain how the accelerometers on a phone can read about 9.81 m/s² when the phone it sitting stationary on the table?
The tablet I'm using now has no connection to the cellphone network and GPS is turned off but it's accelerometers still know the angle of the tablet compared to the vertical.

How is that possible unless the accelerometers are sensing gravity while the tablet is stationary?

It takes GR to properly explain that but UA might be another explanation except.  . . . . .

That's not the only experiment.

It's mean you did not. So you did not make a gravity experiment at all.

These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them.
One is nearly 25 times heavier than the other.

And when you think about it:

One object has his speed of fall.
25 such objects together will have the same speed.
Now melt them or glue them together and they will have no reason to change that speed.

One object of 1 gram,
or ten objects of 1 gram,
or 1 object of 10 grams,
all will fall at the same speed,
joined together or not.

Several sky divers will not fall slower or faster if they do or don't just hold their hands.
Other factors will affect their speed, but this one won't.

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist. Showing weights on a weighing scale is not an experiment, it is the simplest part of the experiment. Your experiment has to conditions of a fair experiment. Where is experiment? Blabbing isn't an experiment.

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 02:33:38 PM

Have you ever made a test with a steel ball and a plastic ball from the same height and see which one has fallen before? If you did not, so you did not make a gravity experiment at all.

While not plastic, I have dropped other materials, and they fall together, showing there is a downwards force which is dependent upon the mass of the object, rather than its volume or area.

Your claiming you've dropped some objects do not mean you did it. Your claiming something does not magically make it true. Prove you did.

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 01:10:33 PM

Quote from: turtles on July 01, 2019, 12:45:06 PM

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 05:49:30 AM

Quote from: turtles on June 18, 2019, 04:02:31 AM

But evolution and the big bang have not been proven wrong. Just because you reject all the evidence for them just means that your faith is more important to you than reality.

Meanwhile they have not proven. So why not God but Big Bang, because it is a better theory? But it isn'T. You have nothing but BS.

Evolution and the big bang fit the evidence. God doesn't.

Which evidence?

And therein lies the source of all your beliefs and why you can't win any of the arguements here.

Your imagination I can't win of the arguments do not magically cause me lost the arguments. It continues to be your imagination.

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

faded mike agrees

Then care to explain how this magic works?
Plenty of accelerometers exist independent of phones.
But more importantly, as they can also tell orientation, a single location will not help.
You would need multiple (at least 4) location sensors, which are extremely accurate to determine which way is up.

Prove you did.

You have shown you are completely unwilling to accept any evidence provided to you, so stop asking for it or demanding it.
Every time you do it just further shows your dishonesty.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball.

Provide details. What stone, what ball?
Was the ball light enough for drag to cause a significant effect?

You have shown you are completely unwilling to accept any evidence provided to you, so stop asking for it or demanding it.
Every time you do it just further shows your dishonesty.

Make an experiment and share your results. Otherwise you have accepted your gravity is worthess till enough to make an experiment. Your childish insultings can not magically make your BS to some arguments.

Make an experiment and share your results.

Why would I bother?
You have shown you have no interesting in accepting evidence presented by others.
You will just dismiss it as fake.
As such, I'm not going to bother wasting my time.

Now care to address what I have asked repeatedly?
If you accept there is a downwards force why claim that accelerators need to use location data?

We can leave your rejection of gravity based upon your wilful ignorance out of that discussion.

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Works properly for me, they hit the ground together. You must have done something wrong.

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 02:15:59 AM

Make an experiment and share your results.

Why would I bother?
You have shown you have no interesting in accepting evidence presented by others.
You will just dismiss it as fake.
As such, I'm not going to bother wasting my time.

Now care to address what I have asked repeatedly?
If you accept there is a downwards force why claim that accelerators need to use location data?

We can leave your rejection of gravity based upon your wilful ignorance out of that discussion.

Others are you. Stop to use others. This is a childish behave your hiding behind others. Others do not magically help you in your case. Are you a child hiding behind your father? Grow up, grow up and flash yourself out of behind your father.

If it is fake, so I say its being fake. Since you know they are fake so you know very well I will tell them being fake. So, stop to childish behave and accept you haven't an argument but blabbing.

I will not leave your claiming of gravity based upon your wilful ignorance out of that discussion. Because you have to get educated. So, do not flee, come here. I'll tell you same proofs and evidences till you give up to do evil.

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Works properly for me, they hit the ground together. You must have done something wrong.

Prove you did or I don't care your results. Because I did, they did not hit together. One claim against one claim. No winning. So gravity may be exist, may be non exist or maybe there is Zeus pushing everything down. Where is your proof? Absent. You have proved how globularists are ignorant, thank you.

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

Quote from: turtles on July 02, 2019, 03:18:49 AM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Works properly for me, they hit the ground together. You must have done something wrong.

Prove you did or I don't care your results. Because I did, they did not hit together. One claim against one claim. No winning. So gravity may be exist, may be non exist or maybe there is Zeus pushing everything down. Where is your proof? Absent. You have proved how globularists are ignorant, thank you.

Prove you did or I don't care your results.

Of course, that doesn't make our claims equal. There is plenty of evidence to back up my claim, including film of it being done in a vacuum on the moon. You will of course revert to you usual claim that all video which contradicts your beliefs is fake.

There is no video to back up your claim.

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

wherein the object is to use objects with different specific mass. If you use stone and wood, you will see a similar result. this experiment proved that gravity is a hoax. If you want to prove gravity being hoax just repeat same experiment and boom, that's all.

Quote from: Ozymandias74 on May 23, 2019, 07:43:05 PM

I have not seen the question asked before, but how do flat earthers explain how a cell phone/tablet can tell 'up' and 'down' and rotate the screen accordingly.
They have an accelerometer built into them, which measures gravity and allows the phone to tell which way is down.
https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/smartphones-change-orientation-horizontal-landscape-gravity-sensor-accelerometer.html is a link that explains the basics of how such a device works in a cell phone.   
If gravity does not exist, then how do flat earthers explain such a function in a cell phone. 
However flat earthers explain such a phenomenon, I challenge you to ask Apple/Samsung/etc how their phones are designed, are they designed around <insert your theory here> or are they designed around gravity.   See what their response is.

This is a really fun forum. According to the question asked, it should actually be answered by someone who believes in the flat world or who does not believe in gravitation. but the answer is just to ridicule the flat earthers.

Even so I want to put forward the perspective of majority of flat earthers. There may be people think something else. I want to share my thoughts.

Accelerometers in phones work like how other navigation devices. your mobile phone is part of a network and its location is shared tens times per second. You can learn your speed, acceleration, position, altitude and other information instantly thanks to the continuously updated position information.

I realize that I am responding to this from a long time ago, but i will do so anyway.
First of all, this post is not meant to ridicule anyone.  It is meant to make someone that believes in flat earth think.  One of the tenets of Flat earth is that gravity does not exist.  IF that is true, then how to explain how accelerometers in phones/tablets work?

Your answer was that they can take the GPS from the 'network'.   That may be possible for telling your gps position, it can explain your location, but it does not explain how a phone or tablet can tell its own orientation.  There is no way that the 'network' can tell if your phone is flipped sideways or not and yet somehow the phone knows when to flip the screen to landscape or vertical orientation.   Somehow the phone must know the orientation of the screen and when to change it.   My question is meant to ask those that do not believe in gravity, how is this explained?

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

wherein the object is to use objects with different specific mass. If you use stone and wood, you will see a similar result. this experiment proved that gravity is a hoax. If you want to prove gravity being hoax just repeat same experiment and boom, that's all.

So, you say that "if air resistance interferes then the gravity is a hoax" ?

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 12:56:18 PM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

wherein the object is to use objects with different specific mass. If you use stone and wood, you will see a similar result. this experiment proved that gravity is a hoax. If you want to prove gravity being hoax just repeat same experiment and boom, that's all.

So, you say that "if air resistance interferes then the gravity is a hoax" ?

paint both materials with the same paint to eliminate the difference in friction. Is it ok now? Will you stop to cry and accept gravity is a hoax now?

paint both materials with the same paint to eliminate the difference in friction. Is it ok now?

No, it isn't.
Gravity is a force that is proportional to mass.
Friction is not.
If you drop an extremely light object, with a large surface area to volume ratio, it will be significantly effected by air resistance, having a much lower terminal velocity.
This will mean over a long fall it will fall much slower.

Eliminating the difference in friction is not the issue, it is making it insignificant.
Having it be significant for one but not the other is just as invalid as holding one object in your hand while you drop the other and saying because the one in your hand didn't fall gravity is wrong.

Like I have said elsewhere, you cannot disprove gravity by ignoring other forces.

Quote from: wise on July 03, 2019, 12:07:48 AM

paint both materials with the same paint to eliminate the difference in friction. Is it ok now?

No, it isn't.

I suggested it to macarios. Burden of accept or deny it is in his side, not yours. Grow up and stop being a childish brat.

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Your claim is patently false. If any two solid objects of similar form and different masses were released from  a given height they would both hit the ground at the same time. That is an undeniable fact irrespective of the natural phenomena causing it.
This simple experiment is carried out countless times successfully every year in physics classes all over the world.

Will you stop to cry and accept gravity is a hoax now?

No, because gravity is not a hoax!

But all your gravity hoax rubbish has nothing to do with the topic "If gravity does not exist, how do accelerometers in phones work".

So what about explaining that to us because cellphone networks and GPS have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
The tablet I'm using now has no cellphone network connection and three accelerometers work exactly the same whether or not the GPS is turned.

So what is your answer?

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 08:17:52 PM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 12:56:18 PM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

wherein the object is to use objects with different specific mass. If you use stone and wood, you will see a similar result. this experiment proved that gravity is a hoax. If you want to prove gravity being hoax just repeat same experiment and boom, that's all.

So, you say that "if air resistance interferes then the gravity is a hoax" ?

paint both materials with the same paint to eliminate the difference in friction. Is it ok now? Will you stop to cry and accept gravity is a hoax now?

LOL
To stop crying I would have to start first.

Let's try this step by step.

1. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram clay ball alone, or
b - two 100 gram clay balls together
c - they will have the same fall times

2. What will fall faster:
a - two 100 gram clay balls together
b - one 200 gram clay ball alone
c - they will have the same fall times

3. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram steel ball
b - one 100 gram clay ball
c - they will have the same fall times

4. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram steel ball and one 100 gram clay ball together
b - one 100 gram clay chunk wrapped around one 100 gram steel ball
c - they will have the same fall times

Think about each of these questions.
You don't have to answer, just learn.

~~~~~

I know you will have complaints here, but after this I have the question with the opposite approach.

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Your claim is patently false.

Your patent application is denied. Otherwise burden of showing the patent is in your side. Your childish baseless claims can not help your angry globularist dreams.

Quote from: wise on July 03, 2019, 12:07:48 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 08:17:52 PM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 12:56:18 PM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: wise on July 02, 2019, 01:37:39 AM

Quote from: Macarios on July 02, 2019, 12:51:11 AM

Quote from: wise on July 01, 2019, 11:55:15 PM

Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

~~~~~

Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

wherein the object is to use objects with different specific mass. If you use stone and wood, you will see a similar result. this experiment proved that gravity is a hoax. If you want to prove gravity being hoax just repeat same experiment and boom, that's all.

So, you say that "if air resistance interferes then the gravity is a hoax" ?

paint both materials with the same paint to eliminate the difference in friction. Is it ok now? Will you stop to cry and accept gravity is a hoax now?

LOL
To stop crying I would have to start first.

Let's try this step by step.

1. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram clay ball alone, or
b - two 100 gram clay balls together
c - they will have the same fall times

2. What will fall faster:
a - two 100 gram clay balls together
b - one 200 gram clay ball alone
c - they will have the same fall times

3. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram steel ball
b - one 100 gram clay ball
c - they will have the same fall times

4. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram steel ball and one 100 gram clay ball together
b - one 100 gram clay chunk wrapped around one 100 gram steel ball
c - they will have the same fall times

Think about each of these questions.
You don't have to answer, just learn.

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I know you will have complaints here, but after this I have the question with the opposite approach.

Can you share your results with proof please, other than blabbing?

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Where is experiment? Your claiming "These two objects fall together from whichever height I tried to drop them" does not magically this experiment exist.

Ofcourse you will deny it.
Even if I post hundreds of videos, you would still try to find some excuses.
On the other hand, if you do it yourself, you can't close your eyes and hide from it.
(You can, but that's another story.)

Dare you to take two objects yourself and drop them together.
(And to be honest to yourself.)

I did it, it is your turn now.

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Find your own objects, I won't mail you these.

I've done this experiment before. I left a ball and a stone down from the roof of the building and the stone fell earlier than ball. Your turn. Start to find excuses why stone falls earlier than plastic ball. Start to excuse of your model.

Was the ball empty inside like a balloon? What was the air resistance?
Did you try the same experiment with two different stones instead?

(Remember, people can repeat and they will know if you are telling the truth.)

wherein the object is to use objects with different specific mass. If you use stone and wood, you will see a similar result. this experiment proved that gravity is a hoax. If you want to prove gravity being hoax just repeat same experiment and boom, that's all.

So, you say that "if air resistance interferes then the gravity is a hoax" ?

paint both materials with the same paint to eliminate the difference in friction. Is it ok now? Will you stop to cry and accept gravity is a hoax now?

LOL
To stop crying I would have to start first.

Let's try this step by step.

1. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram clay ball alone, or
b - two 100 gram clay balls together
c - they will have the same fall times

2. What will fall faster:
a - two 100 gram clay balls together
b - one 200 gram clay ball alone
c - they will have the same fall times

3. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram steel ball
b - one 100 gram clay ball
c - they will have the same fall times

4. What will fall faster:
a - one 100 gram steel ball and one 100 gram clay ball together
b - one 100 gram clay chunk wrapped around one 100 gram steel ball
c - they will have the same fall times

Think about each of these questions.
You don't have to answer, just learn.

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I know you will have complaints here, but after this I have the question with the opposite approach.

Can you share your results with proof please, other than blabbing?

You can find details in many places, how about you refer to one instead of asking people here.