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Re: Brexit
« Reply #570 on: December 17, 2019, 03:47:49 PM »
These next few months are gonna be weird...

To repeat his mantra, hope he 'Gets Brexit Done'

If nothing else I'm sure politicians have other things to do like run a country etc

Interesting/scary times
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #571 on: July 21, 2020, 05:23:48 AM »
The truth slowly emerges...   

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53484344
Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #572 on: September 11, 2020, 06:50:52 AM »
Since we’ve all been giving Americans a hard time over Trump I thought it fair to turn the spotlight back to another country vying for the title of “most dysfunctional government”.

For those not paying attention (apparently including half the UK population) after May’s deal with the EU was voted down in parliament (slow clap, Labour) and she was forced out, Johnson requested a new deal with a different arrangement for N Ireland. 

We then had a snap election with the sole purpose of resolving the deadlock end of last year.  The only issue that mattered was choosing between Johnson’s “amazing” and “oven ready” deal and Labour (probably in a coalition) renegotiating another deal and putting that to the public in another referendum.

Amusingly, even Johnson and the Tories had given up on pretending Brexit would be in any way beneficial to the public.  The message was “get Brexit done” (because everyone is sick of hearing about it).

This week we hear that the Tories want to unilaterally ignore terms of the treaty that Johnson signed on behalf of the country, breaking international law and potentially jeopardising the Good Friday Agreement (which ended the sectarian violence in N Ireland).

It’s also emerged that Cummings (the unelected moron really calling the shots) told Brexiter MPs they didn’t need to bother reading the withdrawal agreement before voting on it, because they would change it later.

So the whole basis of the last election was a complete sham and they knew it, we’re about to break international law by jeopardising a treaty that brought peace not to a foreign country but to part of the UK, we’ve soured relations even more with our closest allies, and we’re further than ever from the trade deal that needs to be in place by the end of the year, without which all hell will break loose.

What absolute shower of shit these incompetent wankers are.
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Psychomech

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #573 on: September 11, 2020, 07:03:24 AM »
What absolute shower of shit these incompetent wankers are.

That just about sums up the entire British establishment at the moment.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #574 on: September 11, 2020, 02:02:41 PM »

Interesting/scary times

Not if you have balls.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #575 on: September 11, 2020, 10:33:53 PM »
Since we’ve all been giving Americans a hard time over Trump I thought it fair to turn the spotlight back to another country vying for the title of “most dysfunctional government”.

For those not paying attention (apparently including half the UK population) after May’s deal with the EU was voted down in parliament (slow clap, Labour) and she was forced out, Johnson requested a new deal with a different arrangement for N Ireland. 

We then had a snap election with the sole purpose of resolving the deadlock end of last year.  The only issue that mattered was choosing between Johnson’s “amazing” and “oven ready” deal and Labour (probably in a coalition) renegotiating another deal and putting that to the public in another referendum.

Amusingly, even Johnson and the Tories had given up on pretending Brexit would be in any way beneficial to the public.  The message was “get Brexit done” (because everyone is sick of hearing about it).

This week we hear that the Tories want to unilaterally ignore terms of the treaty that Johnson signed on behalf of the country, breaking international law and potentially jeopardising the Good Friday Agreement (which ended the sectarian violence in N Ireland).

It’s also emerged that Cummings (the unelected moron really calling the shots) told Brexiter MPs they didn’t need to bother reading the withdrawal agreement before voting on it, because they would change it later.

So the whole basis of the last election was a complete sham and they knew it, we’re about to break international law by jeopardising a treaty that brought peace not to a foreign country but to part of the UK, we’ve soured relations even more with our closest allies, and we’re further than ever from the trade deal that needs to be in place by the end of the year, without which all hell will break loose.

What absolute shower of shit these incompetent wankers are.

Just my opinion as an outsider to all of this.  It sounds like Trump's promise to build the wall.  This brexit arrangement sounds silly and unworkable.  England gains nothing and risks a deep recession.  It also seems likely that this would cause Scotland and Ireland to vote to leave the UK and join the EU.

I suspect that they'll probably just draw it out and water it down until it effectively disappears.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #576 on: September 12, 2020, 01:06:12 AM »

Just my opinion as an outsider to all of this.  It sounds like Trump's promise to build the wall.  This brexit arrangement sounds silly and unworkable.  England gains nothing and risks a deep recession.  It also seems likely that this would cause Scotland and Ireland to vote to leave the UK and join the EU.

I suspect that they'll probably just draw it out and water it down until it effectively disappears.

Unfortunately not, because Brexit has already happened.  The UK left the EU at the end of January, when Johnson signed the withdrawal agreement (the one the Tories now say is no good).

We have given up our seat on the European Council, our MEPs have left the European Parliament (many wont be missed), we have no Commissioners and no judges in the European Court of Justice.  All UK representation in the EU has been recalled.  They will now make decisions without our input.

What remains is trying to find some kind of future agreement to partly replace everything we’ve thrown away.  We’re currently in a transition period where all the current rules stay the same.  This was supposed to be to give them time to put at least a rudimentary free trade agreement in place before a tonne of customs, tariff and regulatory barriers slam down on all the businesses who trade with Europe and vice versa.

That was originally meant to be 2 years, but the Tories stupidly insisted on making it the end of this year.  They then had the option to get an extension during the height of the first wave of Coronavirus crisis (because everyone had enough to deal with) which they even more stupidly turned down.  All in the name “GeT bReXit DoNe!”.

The government is telling businesses to “get ready for Brexit”, but no one has any idea what to prepare for, and they’re too busy trying to stay afloat in the immediate crisis anyway. 

No deal is hardly an option, because of the damage that any kind of border in Ireland would do to the Good Friday Agreement (which is regarded by the UN as a model example of international dispute settlements).  As well the damage to communities in N Ireland (which is part of the fucking UK!), it would flush what’s left of our international reputation down the toilet.

It’s an absolute disaster.

PS.  You meant Northern Ireland, right? 
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