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Maybe you would feel better if all the police turned in their badges

That WOULD be a start I guess...

Quote from: Shifter on February 23, 2019, 06:45:48 AM

Maybe you would feel better if all the police turned in their badges

That WOULD be a start I guess...

See... Trolling 

Quote from: Pezevenk on February 23, 2019, 08:15:15 AM

Quote from: Shifter on February 23, 2019, 06:45:48 AM

Maybe you would feel better if all the police turned in their badges

That WOULD be a start I guess...

See... Trolling 

That last comment was a joke, the rest aren't.

Quote from: Shifter on February 23, 2019, 06:45:48 AM

Maybe you would feel better if all the police turned in their badges

That WOULD be a start I guess...

You really are a nut aren't you, I have really been hoping to not label you as such, hoping you were just young/dumb and misguided...I bet you go to antifa rallies...

Also, the death toll I gave was for people being shot and killed, over half of those are suicide by cop...you can hold your ears and go lalala all you want but those are facts. Interactions is also a real stat. That is how organizations measure police exposure and contact...the average for an officer is 10-30 depending on what the day. This includes traffic stops, door to door etc etc.

20,000,000 interactions and only a handful of things per year make the news, that is pretty damn impressive. Far more doctor's kill patients out of neglect and there is many many times more corruption in that field that police work...where is "get rid of all doctors"?? Putz...

Also, no, they absolutely 100 percent have free rain...they have to answer for everything to a suit that isn't even a cop. You ever wonder why there is so much paper work? I have seen this first hand for many years... Granted I originally started all the stuff I do for police through my business for the wrong reasons, hoping to get some favor and protection for my businesses... However, ended up really getting to learn respect for the job and what they have to deal with on a day to day basis.

Oh, and what I was saying about me originally hating police, 100 percent true. My friend always joked and said I should have a brick in Plano's wall by now. I like how instantly when you hear a story that goes against your retarded narrative you say "sounds fake"...I imagine anyone who does nothing and lives off their parents in a bubble would think about someone doing something (though not the right things) at a young age, though least I was doing good things too I guess. Though I have to take your stories at face value right?

I hope this isn't the future

Quote from: Pezevenk on February 23, 2019, 08:15:15 AM

Quote from: Shifter on February 23, 2019, 06:45:48 AM

Maybe you would feel better if all the police turned in their badges

That WOULD be a start I guess...

You really are a nut aren't you

It was a joke, retart.

Also, the death toll I gave was for people being shot and killed, over half of those are suicide by cop...

I haven't seen a statistic that demonstrates that but whatever. I'm not sure why you only focus on the most extreme type of abuse, which is killing, and also only on shootings.

Interactions is also a real stat. That is how organizations measure police exposure and contact...the average for an officer is 10-30 depending on what the day. This includes traffic stops, door to door etc etc.

Lol what sense does it make to measure police brutality by interactions?? Don't you see what a ridiculously low standard that is? Even if a misanthropic sadist was a police officer (and there are officers like that) most of their interactions would still be without killing anyone.

20,000,000 interactions and only a handful of things per year make the news, that is pretty damn impressive.

No it's not. That's only the stuff you see. Dig a bit deeper and you'll find plenty of awful stuff (not to mention the stuff that never gets reported).

Far more doctor's kill patients out of neglect and there is many many times more corruption in that field that police work...where is "get rid of all doctors"?? Putz...

Ok, first of all, the getting rid of all cops thing was a joke, as I already said. But even then, getting rid of all doctors would be much worse. I go to a region where there are no cops every week (there literally are none, the people don't let them enter, a couple of days ago they tried to patrol, someone threw something, they arrested him, and then something like 60 people came, fought them off and freed him), and as you can tell I'm still alive. It's safer than some places where there actually are cops. I'd take that over no doctors. Still, I do think that police is a necessary evil.

Also doctors don't usually murder people on purpose, they don't torture them, they don't have the right to legal violence, they save much more people than cops do, and they don't threaten people who expose their corruption (which is not as bad as the corruption in the police) with death (see Frank Serpico).

Also, no, they absolutely 100 percent have free rain...

I agree.

You ever wonder why there is so much paper work? I have seen this first hand for many years... Granted I originally started all the stuff I do for police through my business for the wrong reasons, hoping to get some favor and protection for my businesses...

And it clearly worked as you admitted lol.

Oh, and what I was saying about me originally hating police, 100 percent true. My friend always joked and said I should have a brick in Plano's wall by now. I like how instantly when you hear a story that goes against your retarded narrative you say "sounds fake"...

Lol it doesn't go against any "narrative", for some reason you always think that your personal anecdotes determine how the world works, and that other people actually care about them. It's just that your story sounds so quaint that it's really hard to take seriously.

First off, my personal anecdote had nothing to do with anyone but me. It answered Bullwinkle's question if I had been arrested before, also explained why I used to hate police and why I don't now. Also why the reason I hated them was stupid because I was causing them to come down on me.

Second, there are plenty of horrible doctor stories, some intentional, many just incompetent. Though most of the cop fuck ups are from incompetence or mistakes. There are the rare cops who kill people just because or abuse them..just like there are the rare doctors that do the same.

Why aren't you yelling about them?

Oh, and obviously my cops have free rein was a typo so edgy.

Third, I didn't get any pull off the bat...even now it's not like I can go commit crimes and get away with it. Just stupid little perks, like they are used to seeing me in some sort of weird vehicle or contraption that is obviously not street legal, some sort of Frankenstein if I am testing something out (a few weeks ago, I got my retired Nascar running, a cop pulled up next to me and laughed, asked me what the hell I was doing).

Or more recent example, a friend of mine was causing a scene at a bar in downtown. He is usually fine, but just had too much to drink. One of the officers I am friends with remembered him from being at my shop, called me and said either I pick him up or he is going to jail for PI.

Just little things like that.

Literally all cops are bad. And 40% commit domestic violence

Literally all cops are bad. And 40% commit domestic violence

I am really hoping and giving the benefit of the doubt you are just trolling and joking until hearing otherwise... You are definitely more intelligent than this.

Even white powder has the insinuation that it's bad.

While black powder is considered fun and awesome

https://twitter.com/Tucson_Police/status/1099091668400189440

Damn, I need to be careful, might end up having to do alot of shitty things...that is close to "when pigs fly"

yeah, I didn't know they ever got snow in Tuscon.

Second, there are plenty of horrible doctor stories, some intentional, many just incompetent.

Yes, and the vast majority of doctors who do that sort of stuff are severely punished and are often exposed by other doctors.

Which is not the case with cops.

Why aren't you yelling about them?

I... am yelling about corrupt doctors, but police brutality is a much more significant issue, and it has to do with the nature of the profession. "Why don't you talk about x" is lame whataboutism.

Oh, and obviously my cops have free rein was a typo so edgy.

*rain

Or more recent example, a friend of mine was causing a scene at a bar in downtown. He is usually fine, but just had too much to drink. One of the officers I am friends with remembered him from being at my shop, called me and said either I pick him up or he is going to jail for PI.

I hope you realize that if they didn't treat you preferentially, and if it was someone else, he would have ended up in jail. If the cop arresting him was in a bad mood, he may have also gotten injured, or if he was especially unlucky, killed. So you think cops are fine, because they treat you preferentially.

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

For once I agree with Shifter,  the people who did that are animals. 

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

Police officers are less likely to be murdered than the general population. There are many jobs much more dangerous than being a police officer. Don't spread the myth that they're all constantly putting their lives on the line, it's simply not true and it's the standard excuse to dismiss criticism.

Quote from: Shifter on February 24, 2019, 03:01:03 AM

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

Police officers are less likely to be murdered than the general population. There are many jobs much more dangerous than being a police officer. Don't spread the myth that they're all constantly putting their lives on the line, it's simply not true and it's the standard excuse to dismiss criticism.

And here is Pez on queue pretending the violence police deal with is a myth. Even goes so far to say police do not put their lives on the line at any time for the public. What a good liberal troll!

Quote from: Pezevenk on February 24, 2019, 03:54:16 AM

Quote from: Shifter on February 24, 2019, 03:01:03 AM

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

Police officers are less likely to be murdered than the general population. There are many jobs much more dangerous than being a police officer. Don't spread the myth that they're all constantly putting their lives on the line, it's simply not true and it's the standard excuse to dismiss criticism.

And here is Pez on queue pretending the violence police deal with is a myth. Even goes so far to say police do not put their lives on the line at any time for the public. What a good liberal troll!

I'm not a liberal. And no, it's not entirely a myth, but it's REALLY exaggerated. I remember a statistic demonstrating that residents of Chicago are 3 times more likely to be murdered than the average US cop, and regular people in general were at least 30% more likely to be murdered than cops. That is the case everywhere, a cop is the last person you'd want to attack.

If you want to go by 1997 stats:
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/dangerous-jobs.pdf
Police officers have massively less risk of dying than fishers, pilots, truck drivers, farmers, metalworkers, cab drivers...

If you want to go by 2017, it's not put as plainly, but check out the incidence rate:
https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshsum.htm#17Supplemental_News_Release_Tables
SNR05, detailed industry breakdown of injury cases. Second column gives the best indication of incident rate; percent relative to standard errors, from what I can tell means that it measures more how many people have jobs like that. So a rarer job, one person getting injured is going to have a bigger effect on the statistics even when it isn't as major. You can include them if you want, but then photofinishing is six times as dangerous as being a cop. Second column, police and related fields have a rate at about 5-7, the most dangerous being those actually in corrective institutions. Sure, that's worse than a lot of jobs, but you're more likely to be injured at a hospital, skiiing facility, as a vet, a courier... You don't hear any of them cracking under the pressure. You especially don't hear about them regularly covering for one another, and they aren't the ones equipped with bulletproof vests and sidearms.

Generally speaking, if a cop's been so affected by dealing with the 'worst of humanity' that they assume the worst of even they innocent and start resorting to violence from the get-go, they should quit. Protecting the innocent should be more important than wreaking bloody vengeance on the guilty, particularly with how much time they spend on non-violent misdemeanours. If they can't handle potentially risking their life, they should've gone into a different field. That's like a pilot complaining it's too high.

Do they face violence? Sure, but not disproportionately, and it's still no excuse. At a certain point you end up with a system predominantly composed of violent cops and enablers and there's no real system in place to deal with it. That's not even getting onto the likes of:
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

I hope you realize that if they didn't treat you preferentially, and if it was someone else, he would have ended up in jail. If the cop arresting him was in a bad mood, he may have also gotten injured, or if he was especially unlucky, killed. So you think cops are fine, because they treat you preferentially.

You definitely are a liberal, or at least talk like the typical dishonest one..I say one thing, you try to make it seem like I said something else.

First off, I have clearly said I have had no issue with cops long before I had any sort of "special treatment"... The only time I had issues with the police is when I was doing things wrong.

Also, if my friend didn't know me, he would have been simply arrested...no injury or anything of the such. The only way he could have gotten injured is if he fought with the officer, and that would be his own doing.

Show me a video of some guy just walking down the street and cops start beating the fuck out of him.... I will wait...

Also, as I was sharing with you in other posts of interactions with police out of the two cities I have any pull (as small as it is)..no issues with them what so ever, even one of the stories ended up with me getting a ticket.

The reason I have no problems with cops is I know so many on a personal level, I have been on countless ride alongs, spent plenty of time in different precincts and really got to see the ins and outs of what they do and deal with.

They are mostly good people just trying to do their job while eyes from every direction judge them and watch every move they do from IA to all the other private and public watch groups. All this while they have to deal with the worst of society every day AND deal with a public that is taught by mainstream and idiots such as yourself to hate them no matter what.

You definitely are a liberal, or at least talk like the typical dishonest one..

I live for the day you learn what words mean.

Show me a video of some guy just walking down the street and cops start beating the fuck out of him.... I will wait...

Well there IS the video of the kid walking away from the cops before they shoot him bEcAuSe He HaD a KnIfE, and there is the other video of someone pushing a cop because they were harassing him, immediately followed by like 4 cops jumping on him and suffocating him to death, but these are obviously not a big deal since "they did something", because as everyone knows that's a proper justification for death penalty. Oh, there's also that time when a cop literally broke into the house of an innocent man and shot him, because she supposedly thought it was her own house, but there's no video. Then there's another video of some cop slamming some guy into a wall (causing him to fall into a coma) when he was literally just walking home, because the cop thought he was someone else and obviously his first instinct was to launch him into a wall. The cop responsible didn't lose his job and faced no charges. These are just a few off the top of my head, but there's TONS of police brutality porn on YouTube, you can look it up, I'm not posting it here, because it's obviously NSFL. If you look into some of these incidents you'll find that in many cases the victims were hardly doing anything illegal, and the cops responsible never received ANY punishment. But that's not even important, even if you did something illegal that's not an excuse for them to act like that.

I'm ready for another round of "bad apples".

Also, as I was sharing with you in other posts of interactions with police out of the two cities I have any pull (as small as it is)..no issues with them what so ever, even one of the stories ended up with me getting a ticket.

Dude no one is saying cops literally attack everyone at all times at every interaction. Yeah no shit you weren't murdered when you were given a ticket, congrats, you disproved police brutality.

They are mostly good people

Wrong.

Some, I assume, are good people.

Some, I assume, are good people.

I would say most are good people, but have to do shit things to put shit people away.

It would be lovely if all cops could learn from the hero cop of Taiwan, but sadly that's not going to happen. Not everyone who lashes out is a shit person like in that video I posted. He was pushed to breaking point and just needed someone to give a damn about him because he probably felt worthless.

Every police officer I have encountered bar 1 has been a thoroughly decent person to deal with. At the end of the day, they do a job and come home to a family just like me. Pez is just cynical and thinks that 40% of those cops that go home at night, beat up their wives. smh

They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

The video and photos aren't clear. How do we know the police weren't reaching for a weapon? The civilians probably feared for their lives. The civilians also should get paid leave while the matter is investigated.

The video and photos aren't clear. How do we know the police weren't reaching for a weapon? The civilians probably feared for their lives. The civilians also should get paid leave while the matter is investigated.

Both of your posts on this thread I truly hope you are trolling. I really really do

Quote from: Shifter on February 24, 2019, 03:01:03 AM

This is the kind of shit police risk having done to them every day on the job, for doing their job

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victorian-police-officers-head-smashed-against-the-road-in-sickening-attack/news-story/549ed43b25774173468d0b98f977d84b

They deal with the absolute shit and worst of the worst of humanity. How many of us have jobs where we could go home in a box for doing our job?

I'm sure Pez will stick up for the thugs though. Maybe the police were out of line. They may have hurt someone with that capsicum spray

The video and photos aren't clear. How do we know the police weren't reaching for a weapon? The civilians probably feared for their lives. The civilians also should get paid leave while the matter is investigated.

This is the story behind it a actually. The cop split that bitches head right open too

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/young-couple-accused-of-horror-cop-attack/news-story/794e95e5e5609e470c678c0bcc0cbdb9

And a message for the other attackers

If it means they are going to behave like animals, then it means being locked up like an animal

I'm sure Pez will be the white knight to defend the poor woman getting her head busted open with a flash light lol

Pez is just cynical and thinks that 40% of those cops that go home at night, beat up their wives. smh

Not really. Some just shoot them, like what happened 2 days ago.

Quote from: Shifter on February 24, 2019, 05:51:11 PM

Pez is just cynical and thinks that 40% of those cops that go home at night, beat up their wives. smh

Not really. Some just shoot them, like what happened 2 days ago.

Pez..... Liberal anarchist

Quote from: Pezevenk on February 24, 2019, 10:13:32 PM

Quote from: Shifter on February 24, 2019, 05:51:11 PM

Pez is just cynical and thinks that 40% of those cops that go home at night, beat up their wives. smh

Not really. Some just shoot them, like what happened 2 days ago.

Pez..... Liberal anarchist

You realize that there's no such thing as a liberal anarchist, right?