Inquiry for People At Areas with Long Night

You guys are undergoing winter in certain areas, among others Europe and North America.

Now I'd like to ask you:

While the sun isn't visible at most hours in a day, are you currently seeing all 12 zodiac constellations at the sky?
Thanx. 

You guys are undergoing winter in certain areas, among others Europe and North America.

Now I'd like to ask you:

While the sun isn't visible at most hours in a day, are you currently seeing all 12 zodiac constellations at the sky?
Thanx. 

Simple answer no.

"Simple answer no."

>> Okay, thanx for the answer. Another question: Do you ever see stars which are visible only for a short time, or giving short lines of startrails - if made it so by the camera's software? (Either at forehead or at more northern/southern positions at sky)

You guys are undergoing winter in certain areas, among others Europe and North America.

Now I'd like to ask you:

While the sun isn't visible at most hours in a day, are you currently seeing all 12 zodiac constellations at the sky?
Thanx. 

I'm not from such a region, bit no, at this time of the year (whether the earth is flat or spherical) the sun is "in" the Capricorn constellation.
Hence the name, "Tropic of Capricorn". So constellations near Capricorn are hidden by the sun (and earth for people far north).

December Solstice - In-The-Sky.org, Guides to the Night Sky
22 December will be the longest day of 2017 in the southern hemisphere, midsummer day.

This is the day of the year when the Sun's annual path through the constellations of the zodiac reaches its most southerly point in the sky, in the constellation of Capricornus at a declination of 23.5°S.

On this day, the Sun is above the horizon for the longer than on any other day of the year in the southern hemisphere. This is counted by astronomers to be the first day of summer.

In the northern hemisphere, the Sun is above the horizon for less time than on any other day of the year and astronomers define this day to be the first day of winter.

At the solstice, the Sun appears overhead at noon when observed from locations on the tropic of Capricorn, at a latitude 23.5°S.

"Simple answer no."

>> Okay, thanx for the answer. Another question: Do you ever see stars which are visible only for a short time, or giving short lines of startrails - if made it so by the camera's software? (Either at forehead or at more northern/southern positions at sky)

I feel that, I need to answer you, I do not have a camera capable of taking pictures at night, I am within city limits, and the number of stars I can see is limited, by the light scattering of the city.

Quote from: Danang on December 25, 2018, 04:12:18 PM

You guys are undergoing winter in certain areas, among others Europe and North America.

Now I'd like to ask you:

While the sun isn't visible at most hours in a day, are you currently seeing all 12 zodiac constellations at the sky?
Thanx. 

I'm not from such a region, bit no, at this time of the year (whether the earth is flat or spherical) the sun is "in" the Capricorn constellation.
Hence the name, "Tropic of Capricorn". So constellations near Capricorn are hidden by the sun (and earth for people far north).

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December Solstice - In-The-Sky.org, Guides to the Night Sky
22 December will be the longest day of 2017 in the southern hemisphere, midsummer day.

This is the day of the year when the Sun's annual path through the constellations of the zodiac reaches its most southerly point in the sky, in the constellation of Capricornus at a declination of 23.5°S.

On this day, the Sun is above the horizon for the longer than on any other day of the year in the southern hemisphere. This is counted by astronomers to be the first day of summer.

In the northern hemisphere, the Sun is above the horizon for less time than on any other day of the year and astronomers define this day to be the first day of winter.

At the solstice, the Sun appears overhead at noon when observed from locations on the tropic of Capricorn, at a latitude 23.5°S.

If in 24 hours durations the sun appears only at a short moment which means the rest moment is dark, for RET, aren't most zodiac constellations supposed to be visible? Because our sight (mostly) ain't be blocked by the sun's ray.
Or are some zodiac constellations visibility affected by their distance?

Quote from: Danang on December 25, 2018, 07:19:05 PM

"Simple answer no."

>> Okay, thanx for the answer. Another question: Do you ever see stars which are visible only for a short time, or giving short lines of startrails - if made it so by the camera's software? (Either at forehead or at more northern/southern positions at sky)

I feel that, I need to answer you, I do not have a camera capable of taking pictures at night, I am within city limits, and the number of stars I can see is limited, by the light scattering of the city.

Are zodiac constellations visible through your camera?

Quote from: rabinoz on December 25, 2018, 07:20:56 PM

Quote from: Danang on December 25, 2018, 04:12:18 PM

You guys are undergoing winter in certain areas, among others Europe and North America.

Now I'd like to ask you:

While the sun isn't visible at most hours in a day, are you currently seeing all 12 zodiac constellations at the sky?
Thanx. 

I'm not from such a region, bit no, at this time of the year (whether the earth is flat or spherical) the sun is "in" the Capricorn constellation.
Hence the name, "Tropic of Capricorn". So constellations near Capricorn are hidden by the sun (and earth for people far north).

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December Solstice - In-The-Sky.org, Guides to the Night Sky
22 December will be the longest day of 2017 in the southern hemisphere, midsummer day.

This is the day of the year when the Sun's annual path through the constellations of the zodiac reaches its most southerly point in the sky, in the constellation of Capricornus at a declination of 23.5°S.

On this day, the Sun is above the horizon for the longer than on any other day of the year in the southern hemisphere. This is counted by astronomers to be the first day of summer.

In the northern hemisphere, the Sun is above the horizon for less time than on any other day of the year and astronomers define this day to be the first day of winter.

At the solstice, the Sun appears overhead at noon when observed from locations on the tropic of Capricorn, at a latitude 23.5°S.

If in 24 hours durations the sun appears only at a short moment which means the rest moment is dark, for RET, aren't most zodiac constellations supposed to be visible? Because our sight (mostly) ain't be blocked by the sun's ray.
Or are some zodiac constellations visibility affected by their distance?

It is the Night of the year that determines what zodiac constellation you see, as the Earth orbit the sun, as night is determined by the fact you're facing away from the sun, more proof, occurs during a eclipse of the Sun, that you can see the zodiac constellation, six months later.

If in 24 hours durations the sun appears only at a short moment which means the rest moment is dark, for RET, aren't most zodiac constellations supposed to be visible? Because our sight (mostly) ain't be blocked by the sun's ray.

When the sun is up for only a short while, the constellations the sun is in, or near, are also up for only a short while. Since the sun is close to them, it's either day or twilight while they're up, so the sky is too bright to see them.
 

Or are some zodiac constellations visibility affected by their distance?

Whether or not some constellation is ever above the horizon at any time of day or night depends on its declination and your latitude, not distances. From places north of the Arctic Circle some of the southern zodiacal constellations are never above the horizon, so even if it's dark for 24 hours you still can't see them. Similar for south of the Antarctic Circle and the more northerly constellations of the zodiac.

For northern people, aren't the zodiac constellation also visible due to - for your version - the "earth rotation", not only the "earth revolution"? As long as there is no sun ray at that time.
Because the tilted earth never changes its axis.

For northern people, aren't the zodiac constellation also visible due to - for your version - the "earth rotation", not only the "earth revolution"? As long as there is no sun ray at that time.
Because the tilted earth never changes its axis.

It doesn't matter where you live on earth some constellations are too close to the sun to be seen at night.
See where the earth is in relation to the sun during December.

What is the zodiac? in ASTRONOMY ESSENTIALS
You might associate the word zodiac with astrology, but it has an honored place in astronomy, too. It’s defined by the annual path of the sun across our sky.

We’re surrounded by stars, but some are more special to us than others. Because Earth orbits in a flat plane
around the sun, we see the sun against the same stars – the constellations of the zodiac – again and again at
regular constellations are the constellations of the Zodiac. Image via Marcia Rieke

Diagram nowhere near to scale!
On that diagram, the Polaris would be a great distance above the sun - so far that it always seems almost exactly above the North Pole.

For northern people, aren't the zodiac constellation also visible due to - for your version - the "earth rotation", not only the "earth revolution"? As long as there is no sun ray at that time.
Because the tilted earth never changes its axis.

As long as you're not too far north, yes. At latitude 75° N, stars south of -15° declination (those south of directly above 15° S latitude) are never above the horizon. The zodiac constellations Scorpio, Sagittarius, and most of Capricorn will never be above the horizon at all north of 75° N.

with the dome being a half globe where do the stars hide when not in view?

with the dome being a half globe where do the stars hide when not in view?

Why do you say the firmament is a half globe?  Over a flat earth, wouldn't the firmament also be flat?

Quote from: MouseWalker on June 27, 2024, 02:50:25 PM

with the dome being a half globe where do the stars hide when not in view?

Why do you say the firmament is a half globe?  Over a flat earth, wouldn't the firmament also be flat?

it is the flat earth's saying that there is a dome above us.

Quote from: gnuarm on June 27, 2024, 06:19:32 PM

Quote from: MouseWalker on June 27, 2024, 02:50:25 PM

with the dome being a half globe where do the stars hide when not in view?

Why do you say the firmament is a half globe?  Over a flat earth, wouldn't the firmament also be flat?

it is the flat earth's saying that there is a dome above us.

So, that should be accepted at face value?  Why can't the "dome" be demonstrated in some way?   Why do so many flat earthers believe this stuff, without any evidence?  I thought they believed in science, no?