Two proofs for Globe Earth

Talk of what here?

no one mentions these studies

Quote from: SirWulfe on December 22, 2018, 10:40:11 AM

I have given proof. The definition is "the envelope of gases surrounding the earth or another planet." The atmosphere doesn't surround a flat earth.

"The" definition? It's "a" definition. Another definition is "the pervading tone or mood of a place, situation, or work of art."

I see no effort on your part to prove that a flat earth doesn't have this type of atmosphere.

Since your "proof" relies on attempted pedantic wordplay, your proof fails by not having considered that other people can be more pedantic than you.

Peace out. [Mic drop]

You know what. Yoh are right. However, given that the second definition had no bearing on the conversation, I think I needed to include it. And you're right. The Earth may have a particular tone or mood atmosphere. My guess is, it's mood is round.

Quote from: SirWulfe on December 23, 2018, 05:08:24 AM

I have proven, your descriptions are not words.

You have proven no such thing.
By your own admission they are words, specifically jargon:
"special words or expressions used by a profession or group that are difficult for others to understand."

Quote from: SirWulfe on December 23, 2018, 05:08:24 AM

That means it isn't real

The existence and acceptance of a word has no bearing upon if what it describes is real.

This means Earth can have no gas, a layer of gas above an open surface, or a shell of gas around a closed surface.

As such, your semantics has absolutely no bearing upon if Earth is flat.

Expressions. Meaning "a word or phrase, especially an idiomatic one, used to convey an idea." This does not make it a word. It makes it a fancy form of slang. Its no different then me saying "I got ganked on Charlie by a tank with a healer." Means nothing... Outside the gaming community. Its meaningless without context. However, this is not the case with actual words. Uaing recognised words, i can convey a thought without the necessary "in knowledge" of a particular group. IE: yeah, I ran into this guy who won without a fight from me. He ambushed me, and all the damage I did was negated by his friend healing him during the fight (I got ganked on Charlie by a tank and his healer).

As for your second thought... That makes 0 sense. The Earth has an atmosphere. Detailed by science, defined by dictionaries, breathed by us. The Earth, by definition, has to be round, with a gaseous layer. Atmodisk isn't a word. Atmo... What else? Layer? Plane? Whatever it was... Also isn't a word. At best it is jargon, which is acceptable, and really only understood, within a particular group, and at worst is just nonsense slang understood only within a particular group. (See what i did there? It wasn't by accident).

"However, if you still insist on using jargon, and I can't change your mind, then I can end this whole debate really quick (since apparently you need to use jargon, AND declare yourself the winner amongst Flat Earthers). Ahem. You're entire argument is Hardline. I'm right. You re wrong. End of discussion

There. Now we have settled that. You're more then welcome to join me in the victor's sphere."

Do you see how silly the whole section in quotes sounds? Using jargon never amounts to anything. So, show me, in a dictionary of record, atmo[indication of flat here]. Let me see Miriam Webster, or the Oxford Dictionary showing it. Even better, show me proof that cannot be debunked. Come up with the NASA secret plans. I'm open minded. I really am. However, no Flat Earther has ever impressed me, and most come across as egotistical, and/or unable to cope with the thought that they aren't special. They are like every one else. You are a scientist? Fine. Show me undeniable proof.

Quote from: Curiouser and Curiouser on December 23, 2018, 07:42:27 AM

Quote from: SirWulfe on December 22, 2018, 10:40:11 AM

I have given proof. The definition is "the envelope of gases surrounding the earth or another planet." The atmosphere doesn't surround a flat earth.

"The" definition? It's "a" definition. Another definition is "the pervading tone or mood of a place, situation, or work of art."

I see no effort on your part to prove that a flat earth doesn't have this type of atmosphere.

Since your "proof" relies on attempted pedantic wordplay, your proof fails by not having considered that other people can be more pedantic than you.

Peace out. [Mic drop]

You know what. Yoh are right. However, given that the second definition had no bearing on the conversation, I think I needed to include it. And you're right. The Earth may have a particular tone or mood atmosphere. My guess is, it's mood is round.

I'm pleased that you have conceded that I am right and that your "proof" fails. (Unless, of course, you will argue that you only admitted that "yoh are right")

The only person coming off egotistical right now is you, SirWulfe.

You started this thread offering two proofs of a round Earth. I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate even one.

The only person coming off egotistical right now is you, SirWulfe.

You started this thread offering two proofs of a round Earth. I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate even one.

I knock hoofs. Bravo boydster!

Expressions.

So you literally ignore the fact that the definition includes words, and that your quoted definition of expression also includes "a word"?
If you want to dismiss jargon as slang, go ahead.
It has no bearing on the validity of your claims. They are still pure BS.
FE has jargon, as do many other fields.

As for your second thought... That makes 0 sense. The Earth has an atmosphere. Detailed by science

No it makes perfect sense.
That was not what you were claiming.
You were claiming that the mere lack of existence of a word means it cannot exist; implying that a region of gas above a plane is impossible because there is not a common word for it.

That is pure BS.
The existence of a word has no bearing on if something exists.
You cannot define something into existence.

The science focusing on the atmosphere primarily deals with its composition and how that composition and its properties change. That would work regardless of if it is flat or round.
The science showing it is round is the science showing Earth is round.
If you would like to provide that, do so. But that is an entirely separate argument.

Do you see how silly the whole section in quotes sounds?

Yes. But it is no more silly than the rest of your garbage.
Baselessly asserting that you are right doesn't magically make you correct.
Saying atmodisk isn't a real world so Earth must be round makes no sense.

Fine. Show me undeniable proof.

You were the one claiming you had proof.
I was pointing out that your "proof" amounts to nothing more than bovine excrement.

So, show me, in a dictionary of record, atmo[indication of flat here]. Let me see Miriam Webster, or the Oxford Dictionary showing it. Even better, show me proof that cannot be debunked. Come up with the NASA secret plans. I'm open minded. I really am. However, no Flat Earther has ever impressed me, and most come across as egotistical, and/or unable to cope with the thought that they aren't special. They are like every one else. You are a scientist? Fine. Show me undeniable proof.

So, you'll happily agree with anything that supports your point of view.