length of a day

now, FE states the sun is above the earth and is a spotlight that moves in a circle that expands and contracts to cause the seasons, correct?

there is a problem with this though

a day is 24 hours long.

now, when it is summer in the southern hemisphere, the sun would be further from the north pole.

for a day to remain the same length year around, angular velocity  must remain constant.

If angular velocity is constant, then the tangential velocity would increase with the radius, resulting in shorter days(as in daylight) during the southern hemisphere summer as well as in the northern hemisphere, which is not the case.

Maybe the Earth is actually round.

Just a thought. :!:

facts, reasoning, logic, and especially thoughts do not sit well with the FE'ers

It is interesting though to see how they try to bullshit thier way out of these questions. I was going to post something similar to this actually.

Why has no one responded to this thread? where is the explaining away?

they're quickly changing their theories...

The orbit of the sun is not a straight line, it kind of wobbles. This is illustrated in this.

The Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer is the same on the FE, you know?

It takes the sun 24 hours to do one lap of the flat earth, this is true no matter where the sun is (e.g. either on of the tropics, the equator). When it is the southern hemisphere's summer the sun is travelling faster than when it is the northern hemisphere's summer.

It takes the sun 24 hours to do one lap of the flat earth, this is true no matter where the sun is (e.g. either on of the tropics, the equator). When it is the southern hemisphere's summer the sun is travelling faster than when it is the northern hemisphere's summer.

this is exactly what i said, but you seem to be missing the point.  the amount of daylight that somone would experience would be less the further away the sun is from the center of its rotation, resulting in shorter periods on daylight in one spot, espically noticable in the southern hemisphere summer, when the daylight periods are actually longer.

The orbit of the sun is not a straight line, it kind of wobbles. This is illustrated in this.

The Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer is the same on the FE, you know?

what I said above still applies here, but if the path is longer, then the sun must move faster to maintain a 24 hor day, resulting in shorter periods of daylight.

It takes the sun 24 hours to do one lap of the flat earth, this is true no matter where the sun is (e.g. either on of the tropics, the equator). When it is the southern hemisphere's summer the sun is travelling faster than when it is the northern hemisphere's summer.

Proof of this?

a 24 hor day

I've never had one of these; what's it like?

a lot like a 23 hor day, only a little more special.

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It takes the sun 24 hours to do one lap of the flat earth, this is true no matter where the sun is (e.g. either on of the tropics, the equator). When it is the southern hemisphere's summer the sun is travelling faster than when it is the northern hemisphere's summer.

Proof of this?

 :lol:

You're joking right?

Okay, here's my proof - hold onto your hat:

There are 24 hours in a day.
The sun does a lap per day.
Therefore it takes 24 hours for the sun to do a lap.

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Quote from: "midgard"

It takes the sun 24 hours to do one lap of the flat earth, this is true no matter where the sun is (e.g. either on of the tropics, the equator). When it is the southern hemisphere's summer the sun is travelling faster than when it is the northern hemisphere's summer.

Proof of this?

 :lol:

You're joking right?

Okay, here's my proof - hold onto your hat:

There are 24 hours in a day.
The sun does a lap per day.
Therefore it takes 24 hours for the sun to do a lap.

Well if the earth is flat. It's a big circle. And the sun cant rotate in really an X,Y,Z pattern because it just goes in a circle. Does the sun get closer and farther depending on the time of year? There will always be sunlight all over the earth because it does not get to the under parts of the "Flat-Earth"

pay attention to the posts...he already stated
Theissen "The orbit of the sun is not a straight line, it kind of wobbles. This is illustrated in this.

The Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer is the same on the FE, you know?"

Mr. Face, before you go any further read the FAQ. Then you'll have at least a little bit of an understanding of how the earth really is.

word.

The sun does a lap per day.
Therefore it takes 24 hours for the sun to do a lap.

What ever happened to the sun staying in place? Why would the sun revolve around us if there is no gravitational pull? And the moon for that matter?

before we get too far of topic, can anyone refute my original post?

How the hell would the orbit of the Sun wobble? It cannot (according to your acceleration theory) change it's 'Z' coordinate in relationship to the earth because it is traveling (or accelerating, which ever you decide to stick with longest) at the same rate of the Earth.

Get your facts straight.

How the hell would the orbit of the Sun wobble? It cannot (according to your acceleration theory) change it's 'Z' coordinate in relationship to the earth because it is traveling (or accelerating, which ever you decide to stick with longest) at the same rate of the Earth.

Get your facts straight.

QFT.

All of you skip round answers and do NOT give simple straight forward answers.

For instance, WHY is this flat earth being covered up? Nevermind about what they're doing to cover it up, WHY are they doing it.. To mold the world into their own shape? Yeh right, Their powerfull enough to tell us lies for thousands of years. Get a better answer.

Many of your so called 'theories' are fundamentally wrong. You go on what? Scraps of information released by ex-insiders.. COME ON, There are such things as lunatics in the world.

It isn't even possible for world powers to agree on pollution output, LET ALONE keeping a secret for not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of years.

I repeat, None of you have given straight answers, None of you have even given any PERSONAL experience of FE. I have been on many High altitude aeroplane trips and I have witnessed with my own eyes the curvature of the earth. I have family who are engineers who have to design bridges further apart at the top to compensate for the curvature of the earth.

What will you all do when space flight is introduced? Shoot yourselfs?
What happens when you jet off up into space, Land on the moon (BECAUSE ITS NOT JUST A SPOTLIGHT), Look down on the earth and watch it revolve in all its spherical glory? Are you still not going to beleive it, Are you going to claim that their is an image projected on the glass? If so I am personally willing to shove you out into space through an airlock so that you can witness, Without anything between you.. THE CURVATURE OF THE EARTH.

You are all so godamn hell bent on this I really would want/like to hear what you would say IF it was proved to you that the world was round..

Go on, Tell me .. What would you say if it was proved to you, Right infront of your own eyes, hell told to you by god himself, that the world is round?

If you don't give an answer other than "I'd put myhands up and accept defeat" then you should be marched into a big spherical room, Tied up, skinned and had salt thrown ALL over you for the rest of your lifes.

For instance, WHY is this flat earth being covered up? Nevermind about what they're doing to cover it up, WHY are they doing it.. To mold the world into their own shape? Yeh right, Their powerfull enough to tell us lies for thousands of years. Get a better answer.

The conspiracy's motive is not yet known. And entirely irrelevant.

Many of your so called 'theories' are fundamentally wrong. You go on what? Scraps of information released by ex-insiders.. COME ON, There are such things as lunatics in the world.

I repeat, None of you have given straight answers, None of you have even given any PERSONAL experience of FE. I have been on many High altitude aeroplane trips and I have witnessed with my own eyes the curvature of the earth. I have family who are engineers who have to design bridges further apart at the top to compensate for the curvature of the earth.

Not at all. We came to our conclusions based on personal observation and experimentation.

What will you all do when space flight is introduced? Shoot yourselfs?

Actually, I could ask you the same thing.

So, still wondering about why the sun would wobble. GeoDude conveniently skipped explaining that.

The conspiracy's motive is not yet known. And entirely irrelevant.

No its not, Thats a completly half arsed way of going about it. Its a bit like some guy in a bar telling you that your gonna turn pink tomorrow and you not caring why.. you'd just go along with that..

What will you all do when space flight is introduced? Shoot yourselfs?

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Actually, I could ask you the same thing.

I would put my hands upto it. Would you?

No its not, Thats a completly half arsed way of going about it. Its a bit like some guy in a bar telling you that your gonna turn pink tomorrow and you not caring why.. you'd just go along with that..

No, I don't think it's very much like that at all really...

I would put my hands upto it. Would you?

Would you mind clarifying that?

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I would put my hands upto it. Would you?

Would you mind clarifying that?

I must say, Your a master at your art. Your art of skipping direct answers. You should be a politician.

You want clarification, Ok. If I was to be taken up into Space, by whatever means. (Holiday/Aliens/Big Spiritual Being) and I saw with my very own two eyes from a very great altitude that the earth was flat. I would happily throw my hands up in the air and shout to the top of my lungs "I Was Wrong, Go FES!" ..

If you were put into the same postition, Only substitude this flat earth for a round one, Would you do the same? Would you admit that you were wrong?

He (orsenfelt)
would
put (a verb)
his (orsenfelt's)
hands (things you type with)
up (in the air)
to
it (the fact that the earth is flat)

How the hell would the orbit of the Sun wobble?

By having its radius of orbit increase and decrease throughout the course of the year.

It cannot (according to your acceleration theory) change it's 'Z' coordinate in relationship to the earth because it is traveling (or accelerating, which ever you decide to stick with longest) at the same rate of the Earth.

The sun doesn't have a "Z" coordinate in the FE theory. Relative to Earth the sun moves in a two demensional plane.

If the radius simply changes, then it's not so much a wobble as a slide.

What, pray tell, causes this 'slide'

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How the hell would the orbit of the Sun wobble?

By having its radius of orbit increase and decrease throughout the course of the year.

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It cannot (according to your acceleration theory) change it's 'Z' coordinate in relationship to the earth because it is traveling (or accelerating, which ever you decide to stick with longest) at the same rate of the Earth.

The sun doesn't have a "Z" coordinate in the FE theory. Relative to Earth the sun moves in a two demensional plane.

Your ignoring my question.