Global experiment being undertaken on the 28th June and 27th July

A very simple experiment is being undertaken on the 28th June and 27th of July during the monthly full Moon rise as a means to test the flat and globe theories of the Earth. Simply, photographs of the Moon will be taken just as it rises above the horizon at different locations on the globe. The photographs will all be taken on the same evening.

• If the Moon's face is seen to rotate in proportion to the observer's change in latitude - the surface of the Earth is spherical.
• If there is no rotation - the surface of the Earth is flat.

The apparent rotation of the Moon on the horizon being proportional to changes in latitude is incompatible with any flat Earth model because an observer's view does not rotate when moving across a flat plane - the Moon on the horizon would not rotate up to and beyond 90^o because the observer changed location.

Obviously I can't do this on my own so I've managed to get a few people involved already. At the moment locations that photographs are being taken at include London, Glasgow, Vienna, and San Diego. More experimenters are welcome! Hopefully I have given you ample time to prepare.

Note: this undertaking is not limited to the months of June and July. Every 30 or so days there is a full Moon rise and so this will be carried out every month, indefinitely.

I'd be happy to take some pictures for you. Los Angeles area (pretty close to San Diego sadly).

Obviously I can't do this on my own so I've managed to get a few people involved already. At the moment locations that photographs are being taken at include London, Glasgow, Vienna, and San Diego. More experimenters are welcome! Hopefully I have given you ample time to prepare.

Note: this undertaking is not limited to the months of June and July. Every 30 or so days there is a full Moon rise and so this will be carried out every month, indefinitely.

I'll do it, as long as I don't forget .

Quote from: Appaullingly on June 21, 2018, 03:13:49 PM

Obviously I can't do this on my own so I've managed to get a few people involved already. At the moment locations that photographs are being taken at include London, Glasgow, Vienna, and San Diego. More experimenters are welcome! Hopefully I have given you ample time to prepare.

Note: this undertaking is not limited to the months of June and July. Every 30 or so days there is a full Moon rise and so this will be carried out every month, indefinitely.

I'll do it, as long as I don't forget .

I'm sure you already have the picture saved somewhere ready to whip out for your epic copy/pasta

Quote from: rabinoz on June 21, 2018, 07:21:04 PM

I'll do it, as long as I don't forget .

I'm sure you already have the picture saved somewhere ready to whip out for your epic copy/pasta

Maybe your ASI can provide photos of the moon rising on "on the 28th June 2018 and 27th July 2018" but, unfortunately I'm unable to take photos of future events till they occur, sorry about that.

Do you ever stop playing the fool? What about a useful post occasionally?

Quote from: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 07:36:41 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on June 21, 2018, 07:21:04 PM

I'll do it, as long as I don't forget .

I'm sure you already have the picture saved somewhere ready to whip out for your epic copy/pasta

Maybe your ASI can provide photos of the moon rising on "on the 28th June 2018 and 27th July 2018" but, unfortunately I'm unable to take photos of future events till they occur, sorry about that.

Do you ever stop playing the fool? What about a useful post occasionally?

I've already seen the photo you are yet to take anyway. It's shit.

I've already seen the photo you are yet to take anyway. It's shit.

Do you mean this one? Maybe I'd better take another. May I use some copy-pasta "Do you ever stop playing the fool? What about a useful post occasionally?".

Quote from: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 08:35:13 PM

I've already seen the photo you are yet to take anyway. It's shit.

Do you mean this one?

21 -

Maybe I'd better take another. May I use some copy-pasta "Do you ever stop playing the fool? What about a useful post occasionally?".

Yes. That one.

But you know, you could try being honest on here for once and actually post a photo you haven't already got stashed away ready to bring out on cue

I challenge you to post a picture of the moon as you see it on the night of the 28th of June and 27th July.

Quote from: rabinoz on June 21, 2018, 10:02:47 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 08:35:13 PM

I've already seen the photo you are yet to take anyway. It's shit.

Do you mean this one?

21 -

Maybe I'd better take another. May I use some copy-pasta "Do you ever stop playing the fool? What about a useful post occasionally?".

Yes. That one.

But you know, you could try being honest on here for once and actually post a photo you haven't already got stashed away ready to bring out on cue

I challenge you to post a picture of the moon as you see it on the night of the 28th of June and 27th July.

That one's a bit dated.
The moon might have changed since 6:59 PM on the Feb 11, 2017, though it was close to the horizon at an elevation of about 3°.
Some silly fool might have crashed into it!

In any case, that was the photo you were going to post later and pretend it was taken on the night of June 28. Maybe now you will actually post a proper one

In any case, that was the photo you were going to post later and pretend it was taken on the night of June 28. Maybe now you will actually post a proper one

Do you ever post anything but silly rubbish?
If you bother checking most other moon photos I've posted, you'll find that they have dates and times quoted.
Why would I bother posting the wrong photos?

What about your photos on 28th June and 27th July, some from further south might be an advantage?

Quote from: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 10:52:10 PM

In any case, that was the photo you were going to post later and pretend it was taken on the night of June 28. Maybe now you will actually post a proper one

Do you ever post anything but silly rubbish?
If you bother checking most other moon photos I've posted, you'll find that they have dates and times quoted.
Why would I bother posting the wrong photos?

What about your photos on 28th June and 27th July, some from further south might be an advantage?

I am at work till 19:00 and the moon is due to rise at 17:08 and my phone camera in any event is shit for this purpose. Find another lackey to do your bidding. I am already content with my knowledge. I don't need to investigate with quaint little projects such as taking pictures of the moon

I am at work till 19:00 and the moon is due to rise at 17:08 and my phone camera in any event is shit for this purpose. Find another lackey to do your bidding. I am already content with my knowledge. I don't need to investigate with quaint little projects such as taking pictures of the moon

Tough Mr All Talk - No Action and I'm quite content with my knowledge.

Thanks guys. A very positive response. I'm suspicious: can someone clue me in to the difference between this forum and "https://forum.tfes.org"?... (genuine question)

That settles it:

That settles it:

It does?
But what if you consider that if you put your top car on a perfectly smooth sphere with the diameter of the earth the "hump" under the car would be much with less than one micron.

Are your roads that smooth? Ours certainly aren't.

Yes, over such a small range the earth is near enough to flat. Even over one kilometre that "hump" is only 2 cm!

Quote from: FalseProphet on June 22, 2018, 01:57:18 AM

That settles it:

It does?
But what if you consider that if you put your top car on a perfectly smooth sphere with the diameter of the earth the "hump" under the car would be much with less than one micron.

Are your roads that smooth? Ours certainly aren't.

Yes, over such a small range the earth is near enough to flat. Even over one kilometre that "hump" is only 2 cm!

Typical. rabinoz falls for fake geometry.

Thanks guys. A very positive response. I'm suspicious: can someone clue me in to the difference between this forum and "https://forum.tfes.org"?... (genuine question)

• Certain people on this site get away with away with a lot more than they would on "https://forum.tfes.org" - it's far less rigorously moderated here.
  
  
• How many genuine flat earthers have you found on this site? And how many engage in genuine debate?
  
  
• There is this big difference.
  The "Wiki" of the "https://forum.tfes.org" reflects a fairly well defined flat earth model with UA the only "explanation" for gravity.
  About the only deviation from a "standard FE" model seems to be Tom Bishop's "bipolar map". And Tom Bishop and Pete Svarrior vigorously defend the model. 
  
  This site's "Wiki" and "FAQ" are a shambles and in places are totally contradictory and there are numerous conflicting FE models presented.
  

There are a number of excellent people there, including yourself, presenting good experimental evidence for the Globe.
A few seem to be posting here now and I hope that trend continues.

But sometimes I wonder how much good either site does when you see the plethora of trash on YouTube.

The apparent rotation of the Moon on the horizon being proportional to changes in latitude is incompatible with any flat Earth model because an observer's view does not rotate when moving across a flat plane ...

For this to be part of a valid experiment to test the incompatibility of flat earth, one has to reconcile it with *all* flat earth possibilities, or at least show that your supposition above is correct.

Given the lack of agreement on any model, seems pointless.

I'd be happy to take some pictures for you. Los Angeles area (pretty close to San Diego sadly).

You might have get a clearer sky, especially if you're inland. Sign up.

I'm up for participating in this. Make sure your photos contain accurate EXIF data so Jora can't sneer that they're faked.

Reminder: full moon Wednesday (6/27).  Capture your images at moonrise or when moon is low on the horizon. Close to sunset for most.

A little early:



7:38 PDT San Diego
6° elevation
119° azimuth
98.8% full

The moon is a sphere, Mars is a sphere, Venus is a sphere, the Sun is a sphere, every object is the sky is a sphere
But ...
Wait for it ...
The Earth is flat

Ha Ha Ha !!!

The moon is a sphere, Mars is a sphere, Venus is a sphere, the Sun is a sphere, every object is the sky is a sphere
But ...
Wait for it ...
The Earth is flat

Ha Ha Ha !!!

None of those are spheres

What are they then ?
Are they flat ?
The Sun is flat ?

What are they then ?
Are they flat ?
The Sun is flat ?

They are spherical

If you are going to hang around it might be worth your while updating to the latest solar system model

You said they are not spheres
Now you say they are

WTF are you on about ?

You said they are not spheres
Now you say they are

WTF are you on about ?

Careful with that language there. Remember the advice you taught your son

Definition of sphere:
"a round solid figure, or its surface, with every point on its surface equidistant from its centre." - The fact that the Earth has topography as well as being a little squished from spinning at 1000km/h suggests that every point on the surface is not an equal distance to the centre

Definition of spherical
"shaped like a sphere"

Spherical - shaped like a sphere, therefore a sphere, therefore round & SOLID