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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #480 on: December 12, 2020, 11:11:08 PM »
After binge watching the Great British Baking Show my wife ordered some spotted dick off Amazon.



This food is... not good.  At least not to my Murican palate.  It's hard to explain what's wrong with it.  Not sure what fruit is in this but it tastes like raisins.  It sort of tastes like a bran muffin mixed with a twinkie but with less sugar and more ginger and cinnamon.

What the hell is wrong with the English?
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #481 on: December 13, 2020, 07:49:23 AM »
They put raisins in everything!
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« Reply #482 on: December 13, 2020, 11:48:08 AM »
I went to a summer camp where they put raisins in just about everything.  They even put raisins in the Kool-aid and called it bug juice.
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« Reply #483 on: December 13, 2020, 04:47:37 PM »
That must have been torture.
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« Reply #484 on: December 13, 2020, 07:45:22 PM »
Why would you say that?  I have no problem with raisins.  I even use them in my custom dried fruit blend (raisins, cranberries, cherries and blueberries) for my oatmeal.

On the other hand, mushrooms are a different story.
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #485 on: December 14, 2020, 12:17:34 PM »
I don't know. Too much of anything gets old for me.
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #486 on: December 14, 2020, 12:30:23 PM »
After binge watching the Great British Baking Show my wife ordered some spotted dick off Amazon.



This food is... not good.  At least not to my Murican palate.  It's hard to explain what's wrong with it.  Not sure what fruit is in this but it tastes like raisins.  It sort of tastes like a bran muffin mixed with a twinkie but with less sugar and more ginger and cinnamon.

What the hell is wrong with the English?


Okay where to start?

Being inspired to try out British cuisine is an admirable trait, Mrs Crout gets brownies for that, however going for a Heinz "canned" version does show a uniquely American way of doing things (let's say the easy route), I would have suggested maybe as she saw it on a cooking show, try following what they did, I'm guessing it wasn't open a tin, chuck in the microwave.

Second, no not raisins but currents, dried, dark red seedless grapes rather than dried white Moschatel grapes, just saying.
A great many traditional sweets in Britain contain them as being a good way from balmier climes where fruit is perhaps available in winter we tend to dry stuff out to use then.

So, the food wasn't good? (Well as alluded to above), what in Jesus hanging Christ did you expect? It was out of a fucking can!
Okay, calm. It wouldn't be as sweet as an American pudding as we add sugar to taste, not as the main ingredient where all other components are merely colourings and stiffeners. Cinnamon and ginger? Possible but not in a traditional one, usually lemon, orange and  maybe brandy, and did you serve it with a thick custard? Because if not you should all be shot, your house burnt and the ground salted for a mile in all directions.

Hope this has been of some help. If you need any further cooking tips from this sceptred Isle please ask.
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #487 on: December 14, 2020, 12:37:39 PM »
So I'm on a stoned and cooking facebook group and we are doing a pomegranate contest. All I can think of us to do a pomegranate reduction on steak. Any other interesting recipes using pomegranate out there?
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« Reply #488 on: December 14, 2020, 12:39:11 PM »
I would think that a pomegranate reduction would work better on chicken or pork, maybe salmon.
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #489 on: December 14, 2020, 12:41:05 PM »
And this is why Jura is one of my favorite people.

Jura, in light of your passionate defense of spotted dick (please, no one take that out of context) I'm going to attempt to cook my own.
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« Reply #490 on: December 14, 2020, 01:00:16 PM »

Perennially glad to be a source of inspiration.
FYI I'm not a big fan of spotted dick, if I have a pudding it would be a traditional dark UK Christmas pudding, however you are too late to attempt this for the big day as it needs to be made in November and fed brandy every week until then, it should spontaneously combust when served and remove your eyebrows.
 
This would contain cinnamon, dried fruit and peel, there are plenty of recipes, but make sure you look for UK varieties.
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« Reply #491 on: December 14, 2020, 01:37:18 PM »
So, the food wasn't good? (Well as alluded to above), what in Jesus hanging Christ did you expect? It was out of a fucking can!
This and double this.  I thought he was trolling. Sadly he wasn't.

Sticky Toffee Pudding is more my sort of thing - you really should try that, Crouton. 

Here is one in the series of "How to cook the perfect..." recipes, which are usually excellent (plus they give you all the variations and debating points)

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2011/apr/14/cook-perfect-sticky-toffee-pudding


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« Reply #492 on: December 14, 2020, 01:38:48 PM »
Actually, the Guardian also a "How to cook the perfect.. spotted dick".  Probably a great place to start

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2017/may/05/how-to-cook-the-perfect-spotted-dick
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #493 on: December 14, 2020, 02:09:42 PM »
So, the food wasn't good? (Well as alluded to above), what in Jesus hanging Christ did you expect? It was out of a fucking can!
This and double this.  I thought he was trolling. Sadly he wasn't.

Sticky Toffee Pudding is more my sort of thing - you really should try that, Crouton. 

Here is one in the series of "How to cook the perfect..." recipes, which are usually excellent (plus they give you all the variations and debating points)

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2011/apr/14/cook-perfect-sticky-toffee-pudding


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I was sort of trolling but not entirely.

I get that it's not ideal to get it out of a can.  Something freshly made would almost certainly taste better but then again that's true of everything.

What is interesting to me is the balance of flavors, spices etc.  I mentioned that it's a lot less sweet than what we'd expect in America.  Jura's response indicates to me that England at least cramming sugar into everything is unusual.

Years ago I was in Paris for about a week on business.  I rarely went to the same restaurant twice.  Most of the food was not very appealing to me.  Beautiful city but it was one of the few out of town trips that I've been on where I actually lost weight.

I suspect that a Parisian visiting America would probably have a similar reaction to our food.
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #494 on: December 14, 2020, 04:59:28 PM »
I would think that a pomegranate reduction would work better on chicken or pork, maybe salmon.
Yeah, the wife convinced me to try it again on pork and adjust the recipe. Did one for the steak though with dijon in it; was pretty good.
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« Reply #495 on: December 15, 2020, 03:12:39 AM »
I was sort of trolling but not entirely.

I get that it's not ideal to get it out of a can.  Something freshly made would almost certainly taste better but then again that's true of everything.

What is interesting to me is the balance of flavors, spices etc.  I mentioned that it's a lot less sweet than what we'd expect in America.  Jura's response indicates to me that England at least cramming sugar into everything is unusual.

Years ago I was in Paris for about a week on business.  I rarely went to the same restaurant twice.  Most of the food was not very appealing to me.  Beautiful city but it was one of the few out of town trips that I've been on where I actually lost weight.

I suspect that a Parisian visiting America would probably have a similar reaction to our food.



I think the whole of discerning Europe would to be honest.
I’ve only visited the US the once, the people we went to see were selling us a hundred grands worth of machinery, so they took us out 3 days in a row to the best restaurants in and around Charlotte and the food was nice, I had some of the biggest prawns I’ve ever seen in a rich sauce and I remember a starter called Hush-puppies which were great. The first home cooked meal I ate when I got back though, tasted bland. Sugar is an insidious and unnecessary addition that should have no place in regular cooking.

Take a look at these two ingredients lists, culled arbitrarily from the web, list one is an “authentic” Italian Bolognese.
•  2 tablespoons olive oil
•   1 small/medium carrot
•   1 small celery stalk
•   1 small onion
•   10 1/2 ounces ground beef (not too lean)
•   10 1/2 ounces ground pork
•   1/2 cup dry red wine
•   2 tablespoons tomato paste
•   2 1/4 cups tomato puree
•   2-3 pinches salt
•   2 dashes pepper
•   1-2 whole bay leaves
•   1/3 cup milk (2 % or whole milk)

Apart from having no garlic (WTF?) this is pretty much the way I would expect, the second is called The Perfect American-Style Spaghetti Bolognese

•   1 lb ground beef
•   1/2 lb ground Italian sausage mild or spicy to taste
•   5 large cloves of garlic
•   1/2 cup medium onion chopped
•   1/2 green bell pepper chopped
•   1 celery Stalk
•   oregano (in leaf, not ground)
•   Salt and pepper to taste
•   1 small bottle of red wine or 2 Tablespoons good Balsamic vinegar
•   4-5 Tablespoons of olive oil
•   1 15 oz. Can Italian stewed tomatoes
•   1 6 oz. Can tomato paste
•   2 15 oz. Cans tomato sauce
•   1-2 tablespoons sugar
•   1 lb. spaghetti pasta of your choice
•   4-5 tablespoons olive oil

So, it has the garlic but 1-2 Tablespoons of sugar?

Now I can imagine some poor American being told that their chances of reaching 40 had been severely curtailed the moment they had qualified as a minor planet and to get on a Mediterranean diet and thinking the above qualified much the same as Psychomech probably thinks he’s eating like a cave-man by cramming himself full of factory farmed meat on his ridiculous diet, but the devil is always in the detail and if Crout’s can go to Paris, supposedly one of the gourmet capitals of the world and be underwhelmed by the food, then I’m thinking a damaged palate.

US style on any packaging for food here, usually implies increased levels of fat, salt and sugar, unfortunately people are drawn to it because it hits all the spots in essential but rarer food stuffs in an impoverished palaeolithic recipe book, fat was rarer because your meat ran for its life instead of standing in a shed, that which didn't get away was leaner all the same for trying, salt became the wages of Roman troops (and the roots of the word salary) because it was rare away from its source and sugar was generally available only for a brief time in the autumn when the berries and fruit ripened, but not anymore.   
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« Reply #496 on: December 15, 2020, 03:42:41 AM »
Apart from having no garlic (WTF?) 
There is definitely no garlic in ragu alla bolognese  - you'd probably get attacked in Bologna for suggesting it.  There really shouldn't be very much tomato in it - just a touch really, I think traditionalists say none.

You definitely don't serve it with spaghetti either, there is no such thing as "traditional spaghetti bolognese", as they have no such dish in Bologna.  You have to have a ribbon pasta of some kind to soak up the oils of the meat sauce.

This recipe is fricken amazing - an absolute winner every time.  Takes about 2.5 hours though, so for the weekend.  Great for Sunday dinner.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/feb/02/ragu-alla-bolognese-recipe-rachel-roddy-kitchen-sink-tales

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40g butter
3 tbsp extra virgin olive oil
1 onion, finely chopped
1 carrot, finely chopped
1 celery stalk, finely chopped
50g pancetta or unsmoked bacon, diced
1 bay leaf
200g minced beef
200g minced pork
50g chicken livers (optional)
200ml red or white wine
1 tbsp tomato puree dissolved in 150ml warm water or chicken stock
Salt and black pepper
150ml whole milk
500g fettuccine, tagliatelle or pappardelle
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Re: The Cooking Thread
« Reply #497 on: December 15, 2020, 03:47:27 AM »
I made gingerbread cinnamon roll type things the other day - sweet cardamom roll dough and gingerbread dough rolled up together and sliced. Fucking delicious. Probably American levels of sugar though, with crunchy sugar on top as well.

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« Reply #498 on: December 15, 2020, 04:24:02 AM »
They look tooth-achingly good.  Really want one with my cup of tea now.
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« Reply #499 on: December 15, 2020, 05:05:11 AM »
They disappeared far too quickly, I'll have to make more soon.
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« Reply #500 on: December 16, 2020, 11:03:36 AM »


Crouton, you've eaten spotted dick in a can, but are you brave enough for this?
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« Reply #501 on: December 16, 2020, 11:18:53 AM »


Crouton, you've eaten spotted dick in a can, but are you brave enough for this?

For the other assorted English desserts mention here?  I believe so.

And just to clarify my feelings on spotted dick, it's not that I dislike it it's... let me see if I can explain.  It's like seeing something on Netflix that looks like a dumb action movie.  But then you start to watch it and it's some weird Korean film with subtitles and strange costumes and they're on a train or something.  You stop half way through thinking it's retarded but then other people say it's brilliant and you wonder what the hell it is you're missing about it.

So I guess I'm trying to say that spotted dick is Snowpiercer.
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« Reply #502 on: December 16, 2020, 11:36:30 AM »
Wait, did the image I posted not show up? 

You can see the image here https://www.bestproducts.com/lifestyle/a24433957/game-christmas-tinner-dinner-in-a-can/
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« Reply #503 on: December 16, 2020, 12:15:02 PM »

Spacey! That is truly something, I am tempted to buy some just as an "I dare you to eat it" Xmas game.
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« Reply #504 on: December 16, 2020, 12:17:42 PM »
I wonder what the green layer is made of!
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« Reply #505 on: December 16, 2020, 12:35:07 PM »
I'm going to go ahead and guess that it's a salad layer.

I sort of like the idea actually.  It seems very efficient.  Can be taken orally or rectally for greater nutrient absorption.
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« Reply #506 on: December 16, 2020, 06:10:23 PM »
I wonder what the green layer is made of!
According to your link, either Brussel sprouts or broccoli.

Also from that link: "It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to tell that this is truly a horrifying product."
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« Reply #507 on: December 18, 2020, 01:52:20 PM »
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« Reply #508 on: December 22, 2020, 01:02:24 AM »
I made bean salad with ranchero sauce from Dominican Republic (you can thank the sauce cartel for your not having heard of this - like a thick Subway restaurant sauce/salad dressing with herbs - i think some basil, probably made with beans and rice in mind). chinese style chili oil, chickpeas a bit of blackbeans, shredded lettuce, sliced green pepper.

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« Reply #509 on: December 24, 2020, 03:36:34 AM »
Sounds nice apart from the pepper.

Cooking Christmas dinner right now - ham is in the oven and taking longer than I thought. Made potato casserole and swede casserole yesterday to heat up today. My friend smoked a salmon for me this morning as well. I am hungry.
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