FE model

Since I won't get any reasonable answers in the angry ranting, there it is :

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You say that we have never seen what's on the other side. But the Sun is not always up in the sky, so he "goes" underneath the Earth. So, this implies geocentrism.

Actually, in the flat Earth model the sun is always "above" Earth.
Here's a diagram to give you a general idea of how it works:

Let's say that the Earth is flat. Where I live, it can't be night or day : I will ALWAYS see the Sun and the Moon, because of the flatness of the Earth and the unlimited vision I have. Orelse, I could take a telescope and see the Sun. But that is not true.

How do you explain this ?

In the Flat Earth model, the sun is not a ball of fusing hydrogen, but is rather a large spotlight.  In other words, rather than light being completely radiant from the center of the sun, it is focused.

Hmm... The Sun is now a spotlight... So this implies that he doesn't set or rise, because it is always at the same height in the sky. So, I would see the Sun always at the same exact height in the sky. But this is not how everyone on Earth see the Sun. I see the Sun is at different height all over the day. So not only the Sun's rise and set is an illusion, but its height in the sky is also an illusion.

Word.

This part of the theory is... how could I say... pathetically stupid.

It's called perspective. An airplane several miles away from you might appear to be just above the horizon when it is in fact a thousand feet up. Likewise, as the sun gets farther away from you it appears to get lower in the sky.

It's called perspective. An airplane several miles away from you might appear to be just above the horizon when it is in fact a thousand feet up. Likewise, as the sun gets farther away from you it appears to get lower in the sky.

This is not perspective. Perspective makes far objects to be little. Nothing else.

But do you have any evidence that proves the optical illusion ?

Prove it to me how this optical illusion works.

I bet you can't.

This is not perspective. Perspective makes far objects to be little. Nothing else.

Absolutely false.  Take this example I created relatively recently, actually:



This is how perspective works.  Things that are further away do indeed appear lower, closer to the horizon.  You cannot refute that.

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This is not perspective. Perspective makes far objects to be little. Nothing else.

Absolutely false.  Take this example I created relatively recently, actually:



This is how perspective works.  Things that are further away do indeed appear lower, closer to the horizon.  You cannot refute that.

I'm further than this. What if the airplane disappears under the horizon ?

We can easily see this with a boat on the ocean : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Shiphorp.jpg

It is closer to the horizon, it's true. But it's not only closer to it, it's under the horizon.

That's what I was asking FEers to explain with scientific basis, not only unexperimented theories. I want a theory, scientific links between different theories to come up with the theory which explains the boat being under the horizon. Also, if you have calculations, it'd be welcomed.