Sun rising and setting

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Sun rising and setting
« on: November 24, 2017, 05:51:21 PM »
If you are a pilot and you see the sun rise (below the curvature), then the whole flat earth theory is disproven. The sun is rising out of a curvature, thus seeing some of the sun, not the whole of it. Then you can see it move upwards, then it will be above you, then it will be behind you, going under the curvature.

Thoughts?

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rabinoz

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Re: Sun rising and setting
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2017, 06:08:32 PM »
If you are a pilot and you see the sun rise (below the curvature), then the whole flat earth theory is disproven. The sun is rising out of a curvature, thus seeing some of the sun, not the whole of it. Then you can see it move upwards, then it will be above you, then it will be behind you, going under the curvature.

Thoughts?
I'm no pilot, but do you mean this sort of thing?

If you're the pilot, as Wolfie6020 is, you can take videos like this:

Ocean Sunrise at 45,000 ft provides more evidence of Horizon drop, Wolfie6020.
It is better enlarged to "full screen".

Re: Sun rising and setting
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 09:01:33 PM »
If you were to believe the video as presented, this proves the sun is below the plane, which must mean the earth is not flat, thus proving a curvature????

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Re: Sun rising and setting
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 11:27:18 PM »
I particularly enjoyed the part where the shadows on the knobs showed the sun to be below the aircraft.  Seems the sun is much lower than 5000km, eh?

You know one of 2 things will happen now.
1. Flat earthers will avoid this thread like a plague
2. Wolfie will be accused of being a NASA-paid shill or a free mason conspirator, or all sorts of negative insultive names

Or maybe a troll will just come in and derail the whole thread.

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rabinoz

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Re: Sun rising and setting
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2017, 11:27:42 PM »
If you were to believe the video as presented, this proves the sun is below the plane, which must mean the earth is not flat, thus proving a curvature????
At looks seems like very good evidence for curvature and the horizon not rising to eye level.
Yet the Flat Earth Wiki explicitly states that
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Basic Perspective
A fact of basic perspective is that the line of the horizon is always at eye level with the observer. This will help us understand how viewing distance works, in addition to the sinking ship effect.

Have you ever noticed that as you climb a mountain the line of the horizon seems to rise with you?

This is because the vanishing point is always at eye level with the observer. This is a very basic property of perspective. From a plane or a mountain, however high you ascend - the horizon will rise to your eye level. The next time you climb in altitude study the horizon closely and observe as it rises with your eye level.

The horizon will continue to rise with altitude, at eye level with the observer, until there is no more land to see.

From: The Flat Earth Wiki, Basic Perspective

It is true that the horizon appears to rise almost to eye-level till we get to quite a high altitude.

By the way, Wolfie6020 posts many videos related to flying and photography relating to the flat earth,  Wolfie6020, videos.

Of course, I think that the whole flat earth theory was disproven many centuries ago.