uh oh. another nail. sorry guys.

Satellites orbit a flat earth

The lesson that I want you to take away from this is that, in a curved space (or spacetime!), straight doesn’t mean what you think it means. In flat space, a geodesic is a straight line. But in curved space, a geodesic is not a straight line. But it’s the closest thing to a straight line you can get. Indeed, it’s the appropriate definition of straightness.

In curved spacetime, straight lines look curved.
http://www.thephysicsmill.com/2015/08/15/general-relativity-is-the-curvature-of-spacetime/

Dog was beaten and told gravity is not a force every day for years on end:

<< Puppy legbone's rubbish deleted  >>

9  Conclusion
This exercise produced several expressions of relativistic curvature for solar system objects.  The true diameters of the Sun and Earth are 4.1 km and 4.4 mm greater, respectively, than one would expect from applying Euclidean geometry (C = πd) to the observed surface of these bodies.  These results are significantly affected by the non-uniform internal density variation of these bodies; they are 4 and 1.5 times greater, respectively, than for a equal mass/equal circumference object of uniform density.  In the case of the Sun, this internal space-time curvature affords it a volume 6 parts per million greater than the Sun’s surface
would enclose in Euclidean space.  An embedding diagram was graphed for the case of the Sun.  This demonstrates the contrast between curvature in the Sun and in a uniform density model of the Sun.  Quick calculations for a neutron star, assuming uniform density, showed the relativistic radius and volume to be 10% and 18% greater than the corresponding Euclidean values.

Gravitation does not force anything downwards.

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit

Quote from: Macarios on January 25, 2018, 12:44:33 PM

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit

Thank you for your humourless bot generated copy pasta.

Sadly, it does not take into account the fact that gravity accelerates objects at the rate of 9.8 metres per second squared.

This has never been observed to be otherwise, so don't claim it has, botty boy.

This means that, for every second an object is influenced by gravity its velocity with increase by 9.8 metres per second.

Now, there are 31 million seconds in a year.

And the silly fake ISS has allegedly been in orbit for 20 years..

So, multiply 31 million by 20 by 9.8 and you will have the velocity in metres per second the silly fake ISS must be travelling at by now..

I have it as vastly exceedingly the speed of light.

You, however, will shitpost otherwise.

Luckily, you will be on my bot-ignore list by then, so I will not have to read your mad tl;dr bullshit.

Hurrah!

Thank you for your humourless bot generated copy pasta.

Sadly, it does not take into account the fact that gravity accelerates objects at the rate of 9.8 metres per second squared.

This has never been observed to be otherwise, so don't claim it has, botty boy.

This means that, for every second an object is influenced by gravity its velocity with increase by 9.8 metres per second.

Now, there are 31 million seconds in a year.

And the silly fake ISS has allegedly been in orbit for 20 years..

So, multiply 31 million by 20 by 9.8 and you will have the velocity in metres per second the silly fake ISS must be travelling at by now..

I have it as vastly exceedingly the speed of light.

You, however, will shitpost otherwise.

Luckily, you will be on my bot-ignore list by then, so I will not have to read your mad tl;dr bullshit.

Hurrah!

Sadly, it does not take into account the fact that gravity accelerates objects at the rate of 9.8 metres per second squared.

This has never been observed to be otherwise, so don't claim it has, botty boy.

This means that, for every second an object is influenced by gravity its velocity with increase by 9.8 metres per second.

Now, there are 31 million seconds in a year.

And the silly fake ISS has allegedly been in orbit for 20 years..

So, multiply 31 million by 20 by 9.8 and you will have the velocity in metres per second the silly fake ISS must be travelling at by now..

So here's where we left this nonsense:

Quote from: rabinoz on October 12, 2017, 04:20:02 AM

Gravitation does not force anything downwards.

Yeah, seems rabbi-bot claims to know more about the causes of gravity than the effects...

The complete opposite of all observable and empirically validated scientific reality, in fact.

He really does live in topsy turvy world!

Of course, there's a good reason the rabbi doesn't think gravity forces things downward...

It's because the rabbi is in shpayze.

Oh yes he is - here's how he got there, courtesy of the good old BBC:



GODDAMIT NASA - CAN'T YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT?!?!

I can't read your bot generated idiocy, but I imagine by now you'll have dragged centripetal force into it...

Sadly for your bot selves, centripetal force can only be generated if an object is physically tethered to a central axis of rotation or capable of creating friction upon the medium via which it moves...

Neither of which apply to a silly fake satellite in a vacuum.

Look:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/cf.html

Back to the drawing board, bot shills!

I can't read your bot generated idiocy, but I imagine by now you'll have dragged centripetal force into it...
Sadly for your bot selves, centripetal force can only be generated if an object is physically tethered to a central axis of rotation or capable of creating friction upon the medium via which it moves...
Neither of which apply to a silly fake satellite in a vacuum.

Look:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/cf.html

Centripetal Force
Any motion in a curved path represents accelerated motion, and requires a force directed toward the center of curvature of the path. This force is called the centripetal force which means "center seeking" force.

Circular Motion and Satellite Motion - Lesson 4 - Planetary and Satellite Motion
Circular Motion Principles for Satellites
A satellite is any object that is orbiting the earth, sun or other massive body. Satellites can be categorized as natural satellites or man-made satellites. The moon, the planets and comets are examples of natural satellites. Accompanying the orbit of natural satellites are a host of satellites launched from earth for purposes of communication, scientific research, weather forecasting, intelligence, etc. Whether a moon, a planet, or some man-made satellite, every satellite's motion is governed by the same physics principles and described by the same mathematical equations.
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Velocity, Acceleration and Force Vectors
The motion of an orbiting satellite can be described by the same motion characteristics as any object in circular motion. The velocity of the satellite would be directed tangent to the circle at every point along its path. The acceleration of the satellite would be directed towards the center of the circle - towards the central body that it is orbiting. And this acceleration is caused by a net force that is directed inwards in the same direction as the acceleration.

This centripetal force is supplied by gravity - the force that universally acts at a distance between any two objects that have mass. Were it not for this force, the satellite in motion would continue in motion at the same speed and in the same direction. It would follow its inertial, straight-line path. Like any projectile, gravity alone influences the satellite's trajectory such that it always falls below its straight-line, inertial path. This is depicted in the diagram below. Observe that the inward net force pushes (or pulls) the satellite (denoted by blue circle) inwards relative to its straight-line path tangent to the circle. As a result, after the first interval of time, the satellite is positioned at position 1 rather than position 1'. In the next interval of time, the same satellite would travel tangent to the circle in the absence of gravity and be at position 2'; but because of the inward force the satellite has moved to position 2 instead. In the next interval of time, the same satellite has moved inward to position 3 instead of tangentially to position 3'. This same reasoning can be repeated to explain how the inward force causes the satellite to fall towards the earth without actually falling into it.

From: Physics Classroom, Circular Motion and Satellite Motion - Lesson 4 - Planetary and Satellite Motion

Gravitation does not force anything downwards.

The pompous bullshit of the rabbibot would be far more impressive if it hadn't earlier written this:

Quote from: rabinoz on October 12, 2017, 04:20:02 AM

Gravitation does not force anything downwards - it might apply a force, that is all!

From: Orbiter-Forum, Astronomy & the Night Sky, Turbinator

How long do you think it'll take for the masses to come to realize Earth is flat, and we have been lied to? Do you think it will happen while you are still alive, or will it take more years?

The rabbibot cannot acknowledge that Inertia is not a force, that centripetal/centrifugal force is a fictitious force that cannot be created by an untethered object in a frictionless environment anyway, that gravity does nothing but force things downwards (the only reason we have the word 'down' is because that is the direction gravity forces objects), or what the term 'acceleration' means.

The rabbibot cannot acknowledge that Inertia is not a force,

that centripetal/centrifugal force is a fictitious force

that cannot be created by an untethered object in a frictionless environment anyway, that gravity does nothing but force things downwards (the only reason we have the word 'down' is because that is the direction gravity forces objects), or what the term 'acceleration' means.

The rabbibot was programmed by madmen who do not understand the myost basic terms of physics.

And what we think is "tethered together" is also full of gaps overbridged by force fields.

The rabbibot cannot acknowledge that Inertia is not a force, that centripetal/centrifugal force is a fictitious force that cannot be created by an untethered object in a frictionless environment anyway, that gravity does nothing but force things downwards (the only reason we have the word 'down' is because that is the direction gravity forces objects), or what the term 'acceleration' means.

Quote from: Macarios on January 26, 2018, 03:46:53 AM

And what we think is "tethered together" is also full of gaps overbridged by force fields.

And you thought that there was no-one dumber than brotherhood of doom!

Quote from: rabinoz on January 26, 2018, 05:22:02 AM

Quote from: Macarios on January 26, 2018, 03:46:53 AM

And what we think is "tethered together" is also full of gaps overbridged by force fields.

And you thought that there was no-one dumber than brotherhood of doom!

I must say i am impressed,..... a retired electricien with so much knowledge about history, old maps, cultures, photoshop, photography, cosmology, orbital mechanics, space travel, human behaviour, multiple languages, the properties of light, triangulations, atmospheric refraction, the whereabouts of 70 countries and their space programs,cosmology.......

I think i could better turn it around....... is there anything at all where your knowledge is below average ?
I really don't hope the retired REAL scientists from down under will pay this forum a visit.......we wouldn't stand a change........
Luckily we have a retired electrician among us that creates the impression he knows how orbital mechanics work....... nahhhh still not convincing enough.

Papa Legba has you cornered completely......

However, I do KNOW that the concept of silly fake satellites is Pseudoscientific nonsense dreamt up by homosexual paedophiles, cult leaders and black magicians...

I believe he's retired electronic engineer  - but what does it matter what he used to do?  His grasp of the science is either correct or it isn't - your entire post was the very definition of an ad hom fallacy.

Yeah, who can argue with high end scienctific knowledge like this:

Quote from: Papa Legba

The rabbibot was programmed by madmen who do not understand the myost basic terms of physics.

What are "myost basic terms of physics"? Souynds like some new esoteric theory.

PS Don't forget to explain about those fairies that hold the moon up there. I wonder if Neil Armstrong saw them.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 26, 2018, 08:46:41 AM

I believe he's retired electronic engineer  - but what does it matter what he used to do?  His grasp of the science is either correct or it isn't - your entire post was the very definition of an ad hom fallacy.

It was intended as such....   i am all for 'any grasp of the science is either correct or it isn't'
But globelings love to use an argument from authority or emotion when they seem fit.
'It was established long ago', ' all those brilliant scientists have learned for years to truly understand'', 'no you simply don't understand the math involved in orbital mechanics', 'if NASA deceived the world you need hundreds of thousends of people to forever shut their mouth'
I think we are on a level playing field and rabinoz knows how to copy paiste and has an awesome collection of computer graphs and images, but i wonder what he really knows....

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Yeah, who can argue with high end scienctific knowledge like this:

It's an observation,..... rabinoz is somehow intimidated by Papa, as was Onebigmonkey who left this place...
Besides this, rabinoz must explain orbital mechanics and apart from some copy paiste info, it seems he can't really answer Papa Legba's valid questions.
And why so many idiocy is involved behind the spacerace. From NAZI scientists, SF writers , pedophiles, freemasons, black magic etc.....

I always wonder what all of you do for a living, because even in the smallest power structures i have seen evil prosper like nothing else.
All recent confessions  about sexual harrasment worldwide is just the tip of the iceberg.
There is much more on an even more sinister level.... and even harder to crack.
Papa Legba ( albite an over the top style at times) points out how many scientific, political  and other persons in power are pedophiles and far worse.

If anyone goes on that road he/ she will not stop there by simply having sexual preferences.
And it seems intelligence is looking away all the time to cover those in real power.

And the origans of space exploration were born in the minds of wicked, occult, evil and sexual disformed induviduals who infiltrated in the highest of places.