CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.

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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2017, 02:02:05 AM »
Edit. Quote.
My post was:
So, you believe in chemtrails?

You know, the kind of chemtrails that makes people dumber and/or impotent and are the cause of the white stripes behind airplanes?

You still didn't answer to it.

I did, here.

I believe in geo engineering. I believe some of what they use is toxic. I believe they don't care because it's all about money.

Here is a wikipedia citation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering

Chemtrails are a part of the solar radiation management part of geo engineering, just not the strawman you are trying to build.

I am not sure if they are using it to "mind control" people or whatever ridiculous notion you are trying to push. If it was for "mind control" it's not working that well on me is it?

They have the MSM for real mind control the CIA learned that personal will is indomitable by external means through MK ultra. You need to let them control you for any mind control to be effective.

I am not under the illusion you read any of the declassified documents I linked you to on mk ultra.

Anyway user you are arguing from a position of ignorance like always. If you have the time and inclination watch the CIA whistleblower video then the Geo Engineering video and we can discuss the content.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 02:07:06 AM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2017, 02:22:37 AM »
Cloud seeding and geo enginrering aren't even secret. As far as I know it happens very extensively in the UAE because they want to change their climate to make it easier to grow plants. But the trails behind commercial airplanes are just contrails, come on.
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2017, 02:23:40 AM »
For sure man contrails are a real thing.
I can explain how they form but I think you already know?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2017, 02:33:12 AM »
For sure man contrails are a real thing.
I can explain how they form but I think you already know?

Yeah. Btw the cloud seeding in Dubai is actually working. I wish they'd stop, they don't know how they're affecting the climate globally.
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2017, 02:42:31 AM »
For sure man contrails are a real thing.
I can explain how they form but I think you already know?

Yeah. Btw the cloud seeding in Dubai is actually working. I wish they'd stop, they don't know how they're affecting the climate globally.

Exactly man we have no idea what it's doing to our planet. These people are sociopaths. The video I posted on geo engineering is quite good imo. There's barely any computer voice ;).
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2017, 03:32:52 AM »
Chemtrails are a part of the solar radiation management part of geo engineering, just not the strawman you are trying to build.
I'm pretty sure you exactely know that the chemtrail-conspiracy-guys are not talking about "solar radiation management" when the talk about chemtrails.


If it was for "mind control" it's not working that well on me is it?
Well, if 'mind control' in the sense of making people stupid, we could argue about it.
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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2017, 04:16:34 AM »
Chemtrails are a part of the solar radiation management part of geo engineering, just not the strawman you are trying to build.
I'm pretty sure you exactely know that the chemtrail-conspiracy-guys are not talking about "solar radiation management" when the talk about chemtrails.


If it was for "mind control" it's not working that well on me is it?
Well, if 'mind control' in the sense of making people stupid, we could argue about it.

How do you know the CIA whistleblower is a "chemtrail-conspiracy-guy" have you researched it?

I'm assuming you went off jimmys post which clearly links to geo engineering, a real thing, not chemtrails.

We could argue if these toxins are causing stupidity. There is quite the argument to be made.

Edit typo.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 04:20:14 AM by disputeone »
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2017, 04:43:13 AM »
How do you know the CIA whistleblower is a "chemtrail-conspiracy-guy" have you researched it?
Read what I wrote
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Is it true that the guy also believes in chemtrails?

I didn't click on the link, so I don't know what's it about.
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2017, 05:12:33 AM »
How do you know the CIA whistleblower is a "chemtrail-conspiracy-guy" have you researched it?
Read what I wrote
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Is it true that the guy also believes in chemtrails?

I didn't click on the link, so I don't know what's it about.

I knew you didnt click on the link. You should think for yourself, why would you trust what I say anyway?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2017, 04:08:11 AM »
I love you. All of you. How could I live with myself if I stood by and did nothing. How could I look in the mirror if I ignored whats happening around us.

Hurt feelings don't compare to lost lives and lost liberty.

I love all of you. Even you Rayzor, you are still human. I implore you to follow Kevin Shipp's courageous example. Everything you have done doesn't stop you from being a human. You can take back what they have taken from you.

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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2017, 04:10:19 AM »
I love you. All of you. How could I live with myself if I stood by and did nothing. How could I look in the mirror if I ignored whats happening around us.

Hurt feelings don't compare to lost lives and lost liberty.

I love all of you. Even you Rayzor, you are still human. I implore you to follow Kevin Shipp's courageous example. Everything you have done doesn't stop you from being a human. You can take back what they have taken from you.

There is no bond that can unite the divided but love, all else is a cuse.

Goodbye for now, not forever. Godbless you Hoppy.


He's a little drama bitch. It is known.
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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2017, 04:24:28 AM »
A self-righteous drama bitch at that.

But he is brave.  So very, very brave.
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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2017, 05:21:59 AM »
Well,  I finally watched the Kevin Shipp presentation,  most of what he said is in the realm of half-truth, certainly the Pinochet stuff was real,  the CIA has done plenty of dirty stuff, and it's grist to the conspiracy mill.   

He was long on generalities and short on specifics,  but I see nothing more than what was already common knowledge about the CIA.

Everyone knows Bush covered up the intelligence failures surrounding 9/11,  failure to connect the dots,  incompetance.

As far as his notions on geo-engineering,  yes, geo engineering is a real research topic,  and rightly so,  but that has nothing to do with chemtrails.   That's just conspiracy paranoia.


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« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2017, 10:55:39 AM »
The American public knows the CIA and NSA are up to nefarious shit for dubious reasons, but the majority of people have no idea what they're expected to do about it and so they just go on about their lives, hoping that whatever higher power they pray to will protect them.

I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.

You're not "exposing" something that is basically already known by virtually everyone, which makes this "hushed tone" stuff kind of weird to me. It's just annoying, mostly.
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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2017, 11:20:17 AM »
I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.
You suck at trolling. Like really, really bad. WAY too obvious.
Take a look at e.g. jrowesceptic, scepti etc. they are way better than you.
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« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2017, 11:55:53 AM »
I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.
You suck at trolling. Like really, really bad. WAY too obvious.
Take a look at e.g. jrowesceptic, scepti etc. they are way better than you.

Do you really think so?  ???
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« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2017, 12:02:01 PM »
The American public knows the CIA and NSA are up to nefarious shit for dubious reasons, but the majority of people have no idea what they're expected to do about it and so they just go on about their lives, hoping that whatever higher power they pray to will protect them.

I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.

You're not "exposing" something that is basically already known by virtually everyone, which makes this "hushed tone" stuff kind of weird to me. It's just annoying, mostly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology
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« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2017, 12:12:57 PM »
The American public knows the CIA and NSA are up to nefarious shit for dubious reasons, but the majority of people have no idea what they're expected to do about it and so they just go on about their lives, hoping that whatever higher power they pray to will protect them.

I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.

You're not "exposing" something that is basically already known by virtually everyone, which makes this "hushed tone" stuff kind of weird to me. It's just annoying, mostly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

Oh, so you're saying there's a conspiracy.
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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2017, 12:14:17 PM »
 ???
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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2017, 12:15:44 PM »
There are lots of conspiracies.
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« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2017, 12:25:15 PM »
I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.
You suck at trolling. Like really, really bad. WAY too obvious.
Take a look at e.g. jrowesceptic, scepti etc. they are way better than you.

Do you really think so?  ???
No, it was just my troll-personality breaking through the surface.
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« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2017, 12:44:43 PM »
I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.
You suck at trolling. Like really, really bad. WAY too obvious.
Take a look at e.g. jrowesceptic, scepti etc. they are way better than you.

Do you really think so?  ???
No, it was just my troll-personality breaking through the surface.
I actually think you're a truly genius troll!

Do you really think so?  ???
A troll within a troll within a troll.

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Re: CIA whistleblower exposes shadow goverment.
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2017, 12:52:53 PM »
I mean, is there a global conspiracy by secret societies to achieve some end that involves ancient religions and can probably be traced back to Biblical times?

Prolly.
You suck at trolling. Like really, really bad. WAY too obvious.
Take a look at e.g. jrowesceptic, scepti etc. they are way better than you.

Do you really think so?  ???
No, it was just my troll-personality breaking through the surface.
I actually think you're a truly genius troll!

Do you really think so?  ???
No, it was just my troll-personality breaking through the surface.
I actually think you're a truly genius troll!
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« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2017, 12:07:51 AM »
Religion has already done the leg work in gathering billions of followers. It makes sense, someone would study it and use it as a tool to keep it going. The bible even gives us a chapter of the future in 'Revelations'. It's not just something that makes for good movies, but a person could conceivably use it to write themselves into the narrative.

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« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2017, 01:31:37 AM »
I just turned 56.
Maybe I should read a bible.
See what all the fuss is about.

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« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2017, 01:41:59 AM »
I just turned 56.
Maybe I should read a bible.
See what all the fuss is about.

It's got some fun stuff in it but it's mostly boring.
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« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2017, 02:15:35 AM »
Maybe I should read a bible.
Nah, you should rather read some science books.
Or, if you want entertainment, then at least read something good.
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« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2017, 02:20:26 AM »
Did you really just turn 56 moose? Like what day?
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« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2017, 06:31:10 AM »
I just turned 56.
Maybe I should read a bible.
See what all the fuss is about.

WC Fields was on his death bed,  and seen to be reading a bible,  someone asked if he had a late in life conversion to the faith,  his reply was that he was just looking for loopholes.

So get, yourself a bible and let me know the loopholes.  I'm in the queue ahead of you....   bloody youngsters.


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« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2017, 06:41:53 AM »
I just turned 56.
Maybe I should read a bible.
See what all the fuss is about.

WC Fields was on his death bed,  and seen to be reading a bible,  someone asked if he had a late in life conversion to the faith,  his reply was that he was just looking for loopholes.

So get, yourself a bible and let me know the loopholes.  I'm in the queue ahead of you....   bloody youngsters.

No need to work so hard.

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