Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...

  • 20 Replies
  • 5255 Views
Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« on: April 06, 2017, 12:36:45 PM »
...at least, that is not what this amateur balloon flight shows:



I have to agree with Auguste Piccard, "a flat disc with up-turned edges".

102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level.

At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!

?

Canadabear

  • 2525
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2017, 01:44:38 PM »
...at least, that is not what this amateur balloon flight shows:



I have to agree with Auguste Piccard, "a flat disc with up-turned edges".

102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level.

At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!

you still have not explained what this upturned edge is.
it can not the ice wall because from switzerland to the Antarctica is to far to see.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2017, 01:46:45 PM by Canadabear »

*

wise

  • Professor
  • Flat Earth Scientist
  • 30077
  • +129/-72
  • The Only Yang Scholar in Ying Universe
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 01:46:09 PM »
Camera pixel is no good. If it was, We could use it as proof of many things. Still a very nice HAB footage.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2017, 01:48:22 PM by İntikam »
He (somebody) is a troll homo playing role of girl.

(Look at the date)

WERERPC LEVEL2

DAY 1 ENDS IN:


*

wise

  • Professor
  • Flat Earth Scientist
  • 30077
  • +129/-72
  • The Only Yang Scholar in Ying Universe
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 01:58:49 PM »
One of the result:

He (somebody) is a troll homo playing role of girl.

(Look at the date)

WERERPC LEVEL2

DAY 1 ENDS IN:


?

Kami

  • 1164
  • +2/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 02:38:01 PM »
Wow.. just ... wow...
3 hours of video.

Do you know what glare is?

And how does the sun get below the horizon? I thought it circles above.

*

JackBlack

  • 26157
  • +51/-79
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 04:24:21 PM »
...at least, that is not what this amateur balloon flight shows:



I have to agree with Auguste Piccard, "a flat disc with up-turned edges".

102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level.

At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!
With it spinning all around you have no idea where eye level is, with a poor camera with a very bury horizon.
You can get basically nothing out of that.

*

rabinoz

  • 26528
  • +0/-0
  • Real Earth Believer
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 10:09:34 PM »
...at least, that is not what this amateur balloon flight shows:



I have to agree with Auguste Piccard, "a flat disc with up-turned edges".
How could you know that you "agree with Auguste Piccard", when we're you at 50,000 feet looking through the tiny port at the horizon?
You claim to be a "physical observer" now you are claiming to "agree" with something you can never have observed.

Quote from: physical observer
102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level.
Try again Mr Physical Eye-Wide-Shut Observer, at 144 min the balloon is at 40,639 feet, or about 7.7 miles, not 102 miles in the air.
Not only that, however could you tell that "the flat level horizon stays at eye level"?
The balloon is wobbling and rotating and there is no horizontal reference.
From 40,639 feet the "dip angle to the horizon" is only about 3.6° and there is no way that anyone could detect that from those photos.
By the way, the highest altitude of that balloon was a little over 117,550 feet or 22.26 miles, at 124:17.

Quote from: Wikipedia
During 2002 an ultra-thin-film balloon named BU60-1 made of polyethylene film 3.4 µm thick with a volume of 60,000 m3 was launched from Sanriku Balloon Center at Ofunato City, Iwate in Japan at 6:35 on May 23, 2002. The balloon ascended at a speed of 260 m per minute and successfully reached the altitude of 53.0 km (173,900 ft), breaking the previous world record set during 1972.
That is under 33 miles and is that js the current record.

Quote from: physical observer

At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!
Stop wasting everybody's time with meaningless incorrect rubbish!
I do not mean that the balloon flight is not a great achievement,  just the silly conclusions drawn from it.

But, I've been on eyelevel with the sun too! See here, where the sun is obviously is obviously half way below the horizon!
           
::) What height did you say the sun was again?  ::)
Yes, the sun really does sink to below our eye-level, from our perspective.

PS Your original error was taking the horizontal distance the balloon moved for the, clearly labelled, altitude.
       If you had a little more actually knowledge of these things, you would realise something was wrong, but
       You are trying to decide the shape and motion of the earth, when you obviously have minimal knowledge on the matter.

?

Yashas

  • 151
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2017, 10:54:32 PM »
Physical observe, please, please, learn some basic math and science. You would have figured out yourself if you knew basic high school math.

The sun is also few cms wide! You can measure it with your ruler! It is only few cms wide. The moon is also few cms wide. You can measure it with your scale too!

Flat earth disproved.

?

Yashas

  • 151
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 11:07:31 PM »
Ouch. Your video proves curvature of the earth.


*

Jonny B Smart

  • 691
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2017, 05:05:23 AM »
The person who created the video says they used the global positioning system to track the balloon. Get that? GLOBAL Positioning System.
"Science is real."
--They Might Be Giants

Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2017, 01:06:57 PM »
I will make no comment to anyone, the visual evidence speaks for itself!

However, I will pay homage to the RE failure...err....theory with this:


*

Novarus

  • 372
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2017, 01:09:08 PM »
I will make no comment to anyone, the visual evidence speaks for itself!

v=2yQFvZsN43A

A man is accused of murder - his lawyer walks into the courtroom, says he didn't do it and throws photographs of a man matching his exact description on the floor.
When pressed, he says "I refuse to talk to any of you because my evidence is awesome."

Not how it works, observer.
Only the ignorant choose to ignore opposing views.
Fight for your belief, don't run away.
It's the only way anyone can take you seriously.

?

Semnomic

  • 172
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2017, 01:14:29 PM »
...at least, that is not what this amateur balloon flight shows:



I have to agree with Auguste Piccard, "a flat disc with up-turned edges".

102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level.

At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!

Flat earth horizon would be curved FYI? Why are you debunking FE  ???

Consider a name change to a more fitting one  >> "physical obfuscation" :)

?

IonSpen

  • 1209
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2017, 02:09:41 PM »
Ouch. Your video proves curvature of the earth.


I will make no comment to anyone, the visual evidence speaks for itself!

I wonder why...

*

JackBlack

  • 26157
  • +51/-79
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2017, 03:19:38 PM »
I will make no comment to anyone, the visual evidence speaks for itself!
Yes it does, it shows that FEers need to come up with piles and piles of crap and lies because they have nothing rational to support FE and know the evidence supports a RE.

There is no RE failure here.

*

Jonny B Smart

  • 691
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2017, 04:01:30 PM »
...at least, that is not what this amateur balloon flight shows:



I have to agree with Auguste Piccard, "a flat disc with up-turned edges".

102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level.

At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!

The title of the video completely discredits its scientific value.
"Science is real."
--They Might Be Giants

?

Arealhumanbeing

  • 1474
  • +0/-0
  • Leader of the Second American Revolution
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2017, 11:49:57 PM »
Wow.. just ... wow...
3 hours of video.

Do you know what glare is?

And how does the sun get below the horizon? I thought it circles above.

You are not picturing how massive the disc of Earth is.

*

rabinoz

  • 26528
  • +0/-0
  • Real Earth Believer
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2017, 12:15:57 AM »
I will make no comment to anyone, the visual evidence speaks for itself!

However, I will pay homage to the RE failure...err....theory with this:

You have not yet explained your own enormous errors in you OP!

Please read again: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close... « Reply #6 on: April 07, 2017, 04:09:34 PM »

You claimed that
Quote from: physical observer
102 miles in the air{2:24:00}, and the flat level horizon stays at eye level. [/size]
But Mr Physical Eye-Wide-Shut Observer, at 144 min the balloon is at 40,639 feet, or about 7.7 miles, not 102 miles in the air.
and the highest altitude of that balloon was a little over 117,550 feet or 22.26 miles, at 124:17.
Please explain Mr Physical Eye-Wide-Shut Observer!

Then you claim
Quote from: physical observer
At 72 miles{49:50}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun. Even I went, woe!
You can't even read numbers off the video!
What you meant was "At 71.4 miles{1:50:03}, the camera was dang near eye level with the sun.
But who cares about minor things like that when the balloon was only at 19.7 miles (104,095 feet), not At 72 miles.

Your first major major blunder: here is that you "at 72 miles", but the highest altitude of that balloon was a little over 22.26 miles.
Please explain Mr Physical Eye-Wide-Shut Observer!

Now I was under the distinct impression that
Quote from: The Flat Earth Wiki
The sun is a sphere. It has a diameter of 32 miles and is located approximately 3000 miles above the surface of the earth.
Yes, 3000 miles on your flat earth, not "at 72 miles" you claim.
Please explain Mr Physical Eye-Wide-Shut Observer!

Would you think of the implications of a sun only 72 miles up:
A sun "at 72 miles" high could never heat the earth at all evenly.

Please explain all the humungous errors you have made!

I guess I should pay homage to the most ridiculous post supposedly supporting the Flat Earth that we have seen for a long time.

I used to claim that İntikam was the Globe's best friend - he made the whole idea of a Flat Earth look totally ridiculous,
but Mr Physical Eye-Wide-Shut Observer you are seriously challenging his supremacy! Please keep it up!


Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2017, 02:52:41 AM »
In memory of spherical earth:




?

CrazyPagan

  • 58
  • +0/-0
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2017, 03:35:03 AM »
I suppose the above beats blowing your own trumpet.


*

rabinoz

  • 26528
  • +0/-0
  • Real Earth Believer
Re: Oh no, the earth is not flat, and the sun is not close...
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2017, 03:49:02 AM »
In memory of spherical earth:

So still no explanation for your appalling ignorance!

As Mark Twain might have said:
The reports of the Globe's death have been greatly exaggerated.
And there not the slightest chance that someone with your ignorance of both the Globe and Flat Earth will change that.

You present a video and every claim you made about it is provably rubbish! Keep it up.

::) The Globe is quite safe from your depredations, from the evidence you have shown you'd have a hard job prove a plate flat.