Air Pressure vs Gravity

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 03:29:13 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 02:45:40 AM

Quote from: markjo on January 30, 2017, 07:35:53 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2017, 05:54:15 PM

Quote from: Gaia_Redonda on January 30, 2017, 05:41:09 PM

Holding an object and just letting it drop doesn't add energy to the object.

Are you telling me an object can be held without using energy? If so, tell me how it's done and especially inside a chamber evacuated of pressure.

How much energy does a table use to hold a book?

Quite a bit.
Tell me something.
How much energy does it take for you to stand up for hours as opposed to laying down for hours?
You have to understand what your dense body is pushing away and how much compression of that is pushed right back onto you.

I takes more energy to stand upright because your muscles are having to hold your limbs straight and your torso upright. You seem to be implying that standing on a set of scales and lying on them would give different results.

No, I'm not implying anything of the sort. No wonder you make no head way.

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

Quote from: markjo on January 30, 2017, 07:35:53 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 30, 2017, 05:54:15 PM

Quote from: Gaia_Redonda on January 30, 2017, 05:41:09 PM

Holding an object and just letting it drop doesn't add energy to the object.

Are you telling me an object can be held without using energy? If so, tell me how it's done and especially inside a chamber evacuated of pressure.

How much energy does a table use to hold a book?

Quite a bit.

Can you be any less vague?  "Quite a bit" is meaningless.

Anyway, where's the book or table getting this energy from?

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

You make no headway because you refuse to. You're so infatuated with gravity nonsense and all that goes with it.
As for the Cavendish experiment. It's a nonsense. It isn't shown to do anything.
Show me it working and tell me how it proves your gravity.
Show me it.

Can you be any less vague?  "Quite a bit" is meaningless.

Anyway, where's the book or table getting this energy from?

Does a table just appear on the ground? Does a book just appear on a table that is on that ground?

What do you think is used to place that table and book where it stands?

Easy to answer, I know. the problem is, you people go gaga from that point on and forget all about energy and how it's used for displacement.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 31, 2017, 05:16:38 AM

Can you be any less vague?  "Quite a bit" is meaningless.

Anyway, where's the book or table getting this energy from?

Does a table just appear on the ground? Does a book just appear on a table that is on that ground?

What do you think is used to place that table and book where it stands?

These are different questions.  Just to remind you:

How much energy does a table use to hold a book?

There's a 1kg book on the table in front of me.  How much energy is the table using to hold it there?

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 05:13:06 AM

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

You make no headway because you refuse to. You're so infatuated with gravity nonsense and all that goes with it.
As for the Cavendish experiment. It's a nonsense. It isn't shown to do anything.
Show me it working and tell me how it proves your gravity.
Show me it.

Find a video on YouTube. There are plenty.

It proves gravity because the small weights are deflected towards the larger fixed weights. This proves mass attracts mass. you can also calculate the Gravitational constant if the apparatus is calibrated carefully enough.

So tell me what is actually wrong with the experiment other than your personal opinion.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on January 31, 2017, 03:42:53 AM

Did the first observers of the heavens have textbook? Simple question, you ought to be able to manage an answer.

I don't know what they had.
Can you tell me how you know what they had, when you consider that they had no text books or anything to leave for you to understand?

Or did they somehow leave carved out tablets depicting what's happening.
Tell me how you know about these first observers of your heavens.
Just a brief explanation will suffice.

They wrote it down so that others could learn from their experience.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on January 31, 2017, 03:42:53 AM

You ever look up and pay attention? You ever notice Jupiter, or Mars, or Venus wander across the skies so that they are in a different place relative to the stars every day? You ever see the moons of Jupiter or its bands with your own eyes? Ever looked at the moon through a telescope and seen the shadows cast by crater walls and mountains?

You don't really know what you're looking at, do you?
You think you know because you were told it's this and that, but you truthfully do not know. Your reliance is completely on sticking to the mainstream indoctrinated view.

Nope. I know what I can see with my own eyes and I know exactly what i'm looking at.  I know because I've made the effort to look and learn. If you haven't bothered to research the subjects on which you make such ludicrous pronouncements you are in no position to comment. You are also in no position to comment on what I have observed with my own eyes. When you've looked through a telescope and made your own observations you will be in a position to discuss mine.

Quote from: onebigmonkey on January 31, 2017, 03:42:53 AM

I'm parroting nothing, I'm reporting my own direct experience, something in which you seem deficient.

You're parroting the same stuff after viewing.

There's no shame in admitting it. It's epidemic. It's a con of the people.
Most people are not unintelligent or backward. They are just gullible and naive. It's all borne out of a need to be recognised by society as being able to recite what was trained into them by parroting.

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Blah blah blah sanctimonious egocentric arrogance repeated ad nauseam. You know that vision of yourself of the proud little soldier heroically  marching in a different direction to everyone else and to a different beat? Everyone else just sees that little soldier as an annoying cock. You remind me of those appalling talent show singers who are convinced of their own brilliance and scream blue murder when they get told their out of tune, flat and have no talent. One day you might realise that you're not actually entitled to be right.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 05:37:56 AM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 31, 2017, 05:16:38 AM

Can you be any less vague?  "Quite a bit" is meaningless.

Anyway, where's the book or table getting this energy from?

Does a table just appear on the ground? Does a book just appear on a table that is on that ground?

What do you think is used to place that table and book where it stands?

These are different questions.  Just to remind you:

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How much energy does a table use to hold a book?

There's a 1kg book on the table in front of me.  How much energy is the table using to hold it there?

You play with your little figures. I'm explaining what's happening and I will not be side tracked by dunces like yourself.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 05:34:15 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 05:13:06 AM

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

You make no headway because you refuse to. You're so infatuated with gravity nonsense and all that goes with it.
As for the Cavendish experiment. It's a nonsense. It isn't shown to do anything.
Show me it working and tell me how it proves your gravity.
Show me it.

Find a video on YouTube. There are plenty.

It proves gravity because the small weights are deflected towards the larger fixed weights. This proves mass attracts mass. you can also calculate the Gravitational constant if the apparatus is calibrated carefully enough.

So tell me what is actually wrong with the experiment other than your personal opinion.

Show me this video that proves your gravity so it cannot be disputed.

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 06:04:38 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 05:34:15 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 05:13:06 AM

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

You make no headway because you refuse to. You're so infatuated with gravity nonsense and all that goes with it.
As for the Cavendish experiment. It's a nonsense. It isn't shown to do anything.
Show me it working and tell me how it proves your gravity.
Show me it.

Find a video on YouTube. There are plenty.

It proves gravity because the small weights are deflected towards the larger fixed weights. This proves mass attracts mass. you can also calculate the Gravitational constant if the apparatus is calibrated carefully enough.

So tell me what is actually wrong with the experiment other than your personal opinion.

Show me this video that proves your gravity so it cannot be disputed.

Type in "www.youtube.com" in the address bar at the top of your browser.

Wait for the page to load.

Type "Cavendish Experiment" in the search bar.

Watch the videos.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 31, 2017, 05:59:40 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 05:37:56 AM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 31, 2017, 05:16:38 AM

Can you be any less vague?  "Quite a bit" is meaningless.

Anyway, where's the book or table getting this energy from?

Does a table just appear on the ground? Does a book just appear on a table that is on that ground?

What do you think is used to place that table and book where it stands?

These are different questions.  Just to remind you:

Quote

How much energy does a table use to hold a book?

There's a 1kg book on the table in front of me.  How much energy is the table using to hold it there?

You play with your little figures. I'm explaining what's happening and I will not be side tracked by dunces like yourself.

Forever avoiding the tricky questions.  You didn't explain anything, you just did your usual trick of answering a simple question with a bunch of other questions so you didn't have to attempt an answer.

They wrote it down so that others could learn from their experience.

Who did?

Blah blah blah sanctimonious egocentric arrogance repeated ad nauseam.

Sometimes it's needed for those that can't seem to grasp stuff, no matter how many times it's said.
These very same people will always show ability to learn when a gold star is on offer.
I'm only offering you my thoughts. They do not come with gold stars and pats on the head, so either learn what I'm teaching or carry on waiting for the mainstream head patting and book filling of jolly gold stars.

You know that vision of yourself of the proud little soldier heroically  marching in a different direction to everyone else and to a different beat? Everyone else just sees that little soldier as an annoying cock.

Maybe so but that annoying cock maybe taking the right road.

 

You remind me of those appalling talent show singers who are convinced of their own brilliance and scream blue murder when they get told their out of tune, flat and have no talent.

And some of them go onto make a fortune amid the total irritation of those that spent their time telling all and sundry that they will amount to nothing.
Guess who usually ends up being that nothing?

A clue: Mirror.

One day you might realise that you're not actually entitled to be right.

Nor are you.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 06:26:33 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 06:04:38 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 05:34:15 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 05:13:06 AM

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

You make no headway because you refuse to. You're so infatuated with gravity nonsense and all that goes with it.
As for the Cavendish experiment. It's a nonsense. It isn't shown to do anything.
Show me it working and tell me how it proves your gravity.
Show me it.

Find a video on YouTube. There are plenty.

It proves gravity because the small weights are deflected towards the larger fixed weights. This proves mass attracts mass. you can also calculate the Gravitational constant if the apparatus is calibrated carefully enough.

So tell me what is actually wrong with the experiment other than your personal opinion.

Show me this video that proves your gravity so it cannot be disputed.

Type in "www.youtube.com" in the address bar at the top of your browser.

Wait for the page to load.

Type "Cavendish Experiment" in the search bar.

Watch the videos.

This could be endless, so I'll ask one more time.
Can you show me the video that you know, proves gravity, with this Cavendish experiment and tell me what's happening.
If you can't or won't, then no problem. It's just that you keep crying and sulking.

Forever avoiding the tricky questions.  You didn't explain anything, you just did your usual trick of answering a simple question with a bunch of other questions so you didn't have to attempt an answer.

I try not to waste too much time on people like you, crabby. I'm sure you've noticed.
Come back when you rid yourself of the big man syndrome.

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 06:38:41 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 06:26:33 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 06:04:38 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 05:34:15 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 05:13:06 AM

I make no headway because denpressure is riddled with problems. Meanwhile gravity has been proven and measured. You still haven't provided any actual concrete reasoning as to why the Cavendish experiment is invalid.

You make no headway because you refuse to. You're so infatuated with gravity nonsense and all that goes with it.
As for the Cavendish experiment. It's a nonsense. It isn't shown to do anything.
Show me it working and tell me how it proves your gravity.
Show me it.

Find a video on YouTube. There are plenty.

It proves gravity because the small weights are deflected towards the larger fixed weights. This proves mass attracts mass. you can also calculate the Gravitational constant if the apparatus is calibrated carefully enough.

So tell me what is actually wrong with the experiment other than your personal opinion.

Show me this video that proves your gravity so it cannot be disputed.

Type in "www.youtube.com" in the address bar at the top of your browser.

Wait for the page to load.

Type "Cavendish Experiment" in the search bar.

Watch the videos.

This could be endless, so I'll ask one more time.
Can you show me the video that you know, proves gravity, with this Cavendish experiment and tell me what's happening.
If you can't or won't, then no problem. It's just that you keep crying and sulking.

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:01:41 AM

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

I don't want to show you?

I've just told you where to find masses of evidence on YouTube. YOU are the one deflecting by not bothering to watch them BUT I am the bigger man. Here have a direct link and watch it. You'll see Cavendish Experiment showing deflection of a mass by another mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2487893833&feature=iv&src_vid=11sLusnVZwM&v=Mcg2h--JDv4

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:06:16 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:01:41 AM

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

I don't want to show you?

I've just told you where to find masses of evidence on YouTube. YOU are the one deflecting by not bothering to watch them BUT I am the bigger man. Here have a direct link and watch it. You'll see Cavendish Experiment showing deflection of a mass by another mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2487893833&feature=iv&src_vid=11sLusnVZwM&v=Mcg2h--JDv4

And you seriously think this proves gravity?

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:13:09 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:06:16 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:01:41 AM

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

I don't want to show you?

I've just told you where to find masses of evidence on YouTube. YOU are the one deflecting by not bothering to watch them BUT I am the bigger man. Here have a direct link and watch it. You'll see Cavendish Experiment showing deflection of a mass by another mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2487893833&feature=iv&src_vid=11sLusnVZwM&v=Mcg2h--JDv4

And you seriously think this proves gravity?

The masses are deflecting towards each other due to gravity.

What reasoning can you provide that demonstrates otherwise?

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:24:24 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:13:09 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:06:16 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:01:41 AM

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

I don't want to show you?

I've just told you where to find masses of evidence on YouTube. YOU are the one deflecting by not bothering to watch them BUT I am the bigger man. Here have a direct link and watch it. You'll see Cavendish Experiment showing deflection of a mass by another mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2487893833&feature=iv&src_vid=11sLusnVZwM&v=Mcg2h--JDv4

And you seriously think this proves gravity?

The masses are deflecting towards each other due to gravity.

What reasoning can you provide that demonstrates otherwise?

I can't be arsed to go into that nonsense.
Just stick to it and be done with it. I'm not spending any more time on this utter silliness.
End of debate on this Cavendish fiction.

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:33:06 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:24:24 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:13:09 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:06:16 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:01:41 AM

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

I don't want to show you?

I've just told you where to find masses of evidence on YouTube. YOU are the one deflecting by not bothering to watch them BUT I am the bigger man. Here have a direct link and watch it. You'll see Cavendish Experiment showing deflection of a mass by another mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2487893833&feature=iv&src_vid=11sLusnVZwM&v=Mcg2h--JDv4

And you seriously think this proves gravity?

The masses are deflecting towards each other due to gravity.

What reasoning can you provide that demonstrates otherwise?

I can't be arsed to go into that nonsense.
Just stick to it and be done with it. I'm not spending any more time on this utter silliness.
End of debate on this Cavendish fiction.

If you don't want to debate gravity, then stop asking for proof of it.

I know for certain that Scepti did NOT watch that video.

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:33:06 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:24:24 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:13:09 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 07:06:16 AM

Quote from: Mainframes on January 31, 2017, 07:01:41 AM

You've asked for a video and I've just shown you where to find them. I suggest you watch one (or many). Not my problem that you're too lazy to open one and actually, you know, watch one.

I've already explained that large masses in the experiment will deflect smaller masses thus showing gravity at work.

We'll leave it at that for this particular piece of nonsense experiment.
You don't want to show me because you know it shows absolutely nothing meaningful.
All I'll say to you from this point on is, don't use Cavendish as some kind of proof for a force than you cannot even explain as being a force.

No need to answer to this particular response by me.
Carry on at your will with anything else but know that I will bypass Cavendish's bollocks.

I don't want to show you?

I've just told you where to find masses of evidence on YouTube. YOU are the one deflecting by not bothering to watch them BUT I am the bigger man. Here have a direct link and watch it. You'll see Cavendish Experiment showing deflection of a mass by another mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2487893833&feature=iv&src_vid=11sLusnVZwM&v=Mcg2h--JDv4

And you seriously think this proves gravity?

The masses are deflecting towards each other due to gravity.

What reasoning can you provide that demonstrates otherwise?

I can't be arsed to go into that nonsense.
Just stick to it and be done with it. I'm not spending any more time on this utter silliness.
End of debate on this Cavendish fiction.

So what you're actually saying is that you cant demonstrate any problems with the experiment whatsoever.

If you want to refute gravity please explain the results or show the problems with the Cavendish Experiment.

Your refusal to debate just demonstrates that you have nothing.

Gloablist: "All flat earthers are just idiots who believe YouTube videos!"

Flat Earther: "Actually there are many very simple experiments proving earth to be flat."

Globalist: "Oh yeah? Watch this YouTube video which proves gravity and therefore a spherical earth!"

Gloablist: "All flat earthers are just idiots who believe YouTube videos!"

Flat Earther: "Actually there are many very simple experiments proving earth to be flat."

Globalist: "Oh yeah? Watch this YouTube video which proves gravity and therefore a spherical earth!"

Which simple experiments prove flat earth?

We are not debating spherical earth, we are debating gravity v denpressure. Denpressure has not one shred of evidence. Gravity can be demonstrated using the Cavendish Experiment; still waiting for valid reasoning as to why it doesn't.

If you don't want to debate gravity, then stop asking for proof of it.

I ask for proof just as you ask me for proof.
You show me a video that proves nothing.

Here's a video that shows atmospheric pressure acting upon an object.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 31, 2017, 06:42:48 AM

Forever avoiding the tricky questions.  You didn't explain anything, you just did your usual trick of answering a simple question with a bunch of other questions so you didn't have to attempt an answer.

I try not to waste too much time on people like you, crabby. I'm sure you've noticed.

No, not really - in fact the complete opposite.  All I can see is you wasting all your time on arguing with people like me.

Again, just avoiding questions, like you always have done.

Quote from: markjo on January 31, 2017, 07:47:27 AM

If you don't want to debate gravity, then stop asking for proof of it.

I ask for proof just as you ask me for proof.
You show me a video that proves nothing.

Here's a video that shows atmospheric pressure acting upon an object.

Well done.

We all agree that air pressure can act on an object. However, air pressure acts in all directions not just down.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 08:42:25 AM

Quote from: markjo on January 31, 2017, 07:47:27 AM

If you don't want to debate gravity, then stop asking for proof of it.

I ask for proof just as you ask me for proof.
You show me a video that proves nothing.

Here's a video that shows atmospheric pressure acting upon an object.

Well done.

We all agree that air pressure can act on an object. However, air pressure acts in all directions not just down.

How about you describe something being equally acted upon by the atmosphere. Think about it before you just jump in.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 31, 2017, 06:51:47 AM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on January 31, 2017, 06:42:48 AM

Forever avoiding the tricky questions.  You didn't explain anything, you just did your usual trick of answering a simple question with a bunch of other questions so you didn't have to attempt an answer.

I try not to waste too much time on people like you, crabby. I'm sure you've noticed.

No, not really - in fact the complete opposite.  All I can see is you wasting all your time on arguing with people like me.

Again, just avoiding questions, like you always have done.

Sorry buddy, I'll get back to you and we can have a small chat.