Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)

Except every time nuclear fission has ever occured, energy has been released. This is not up for debate. You cannot simply close your eyes to objective fact.

This isn't nuclear fission. What you're doing is saying that is A causes B, then the only cause of B is A. Sure, nuclear fission (A) changes the element (B), but it doesn't follow it is the only way to do so.
Remember that, under this model, the layers in a molecule change when changing state. It's the same basic principle, and you don't cause nuclear fission by boiling a kettle or using a freezer.

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there's the possibility helium would turn back into hydrogen at very low pressures.

Yes because everybody knows nuclear fission occurs at incredibly low temperatures 

If you view molecules as the compressed jawbreakers of Scepti's model, splitting apart when there's no force to keep them compressed, it makes sense.

No it doesn't.  Not even  remotely.  None of it makes sense. 

Anyway, skepti says nuclear energy doesn't exist and it's all a part of some inane conspiracy.

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there's the possibility helium would turn back into hydrogen at very low pressures.

Yes because everybody knows nuclear fission occurs at incredibly low temperatures 

If you view molecules as the compressed jawbreakers of Scepti's model, splitting apart when there's no force to keep them compressed, it makes sense.

No it doesn't.  Not even  remotely.  None of it makes sense.

This specific question does. If, say, helium is only helium because there's a force keeping the layers together, it stands to reason that when that force dissipates it would no longer be helium.

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there's the possibility helium would turn back into hydrogen at very low pressures.

Yes because everybody knows nuclear fission occurs at incredibly low temperatures 

If you view molecules as the compressed jawbreakers of Scepti's model, splitting apart when there's no force to keep them compressed, it makes sense.

No it doesn't.  Not even  remotely.  None of it makes sense.

This specific question does. If, say, helium is only helium because there's a force keeping the layers together, it stands to reason that when that force dissipates it would no longer be helium.

Can you say that again now that I'm sitting at a computer running ICP-OES where I am analyzing samples for different elements?
Maybe say it to the people across the street who  run ICP-MS where the ion is sent into a partial vacuum before its analyzed? Sure would be tough to measure elements if they always changed.

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Quote from: Jane on September 12, 2016, 04:04:11 AM

there's the possibility helium would turn back into hydrogen at very low pressures.

Yes because everybody knows nuclear fission occurs at incredibly low temperatures 

If you view molecules as the compressed jawbreakers of Scepti's model, splitting apart when there's no force to keep them compressed, it makes sense.

Additionally you never established there was anything in the model that could create problems creating low pressures to justify the highly unusual claim you are now making that fission will happen at low pressures.

A realistic model is supposed to demonstrate in a robust manner how it accounts for what we experience on Earth.

Can you say that again now that I'm sitting at a computer running ICP-OES where I am analyzing samples for different elements?
Maybe say it to the people across the street who  run ICP-MS where the ion is sent into a partial vacuum before its analyzed? Sure would be tough to measure elements if they always changed.

I did specify the one question, but regardless no one's saying they always change, just that properties can vary depending on what state the element's in, and how much energy it has. (For example: some chemicals need energy in order to react with others).
And all this does is provide another test for denpressure, which after all is what this thread was meant to be for. See? Learning the model actually helps. Can elements exhibit different properties in lower pressures, like a vacuum?

Learning the model actually helps. Can elements exhibit different properties in lower pressures, like a vacuum?

Learning the model is not going to give any explanations why creating low pressures is particularly difficult.  It is an unjustified requirement of the model only

We don't even know what causes an apple to fall out of a tree.  Ie "simply explained by bouyancy"

Quote from: sokarul on September 12, 2016, 08:20:06 AM

Can you say that again now that I'm sitting at a computer running ICP-OES where I am analyzing samples for different elements?
Maybe say it to the people across the street who  run ICP-MS where the ion is sent into a partial vacuum before its analyzed? Sure would be tough to measure elements if they always changed.

I did specify the one question, but regardless no one's saying they always change, just that properties can vary depending on what state the element's in, and how much energy it has. (For example: some chemicals need energy in order to react with others).
And all this does is provide another test for denpressure, which after all is what this thread was meant to be for. See? Learning the model actually helps. Can elements exhibit different properties in lower pressures, like a vacuum?

The only experiments preformed showed denpessure doesn't exist. See?

There is no model, just ad hoc answers.

The only experiments preformed showed denpessure doesn't exist. See?

There is no model, just ad hoc answers.

Technically they just didn't show it does exist, as the thresholds of detection aren't known, but yeah. So?
One doesn't preclude the other.

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The only experiments preformed showed denpessure doesn't exist. See?

There is no model, just ad hoc answers.

Technically they just didn't show it does exist, as the thresholds of detection aren't known, but yeah. So?
One doesn't preclude the other.

You are correct. Every experiment performed thus far has failed to prove denpressure.

I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life? 

I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

That's rich, especially coming from you.

Have you contributed anything useful in your >30,000 posts?

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse? 

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

That's rich, especially coming from you.

Have you contributed anything useful in your >30,000 posts?

If you consider spreading the truth and crushing the disinformation to be useful, then yes! 

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

I feel more sorry for you.  What have you been right about in the last few weeks?

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

If you consider spreading disinformation and crushing the truth to be useful, then yes! 

Fixed that for you

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

I love it when I prove you to be wrong, and you pretend that it never happened.  Does it make you feel secure to be in denial, or do you just have a chuckle at our expense? 

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Quote from: jroa on September 12, 2016, 01:21:20 PM

I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

I love it when I prove you to be wrong, and you pretend that it never happened.  Does it make you feel secure to be in denial, or do you just have a chuckle at our expense?

To my knowledge in about 50 encounters i have had with you your maths response was the only time you have come anywhere near close to proving me wrong.  I have not until now considered that you do not realise you are lying but I suppose I should allow that possibility.

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

I love it when I prove you to be wrong, and you pretend that it never happened.  Does it make you feel secure to be in denial, or do you just have a chuckle at our expense?

To my knowledge in about 50 encounters i have had with you your maths response was the only time you have come anywhere near close to proving me wrong.  I have not until now considered that you do not realise you are lying but I suppose I should allow that possibility.

Sounds to me what a coward running from a fight would say.  Have you always run from confrontations, or is this your greatest moment? 

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I am not understanding why the pump needs a vastly greater amount of power as the container becomes emptied.   All molecules want to expand.   What force causes a weak pump to stop working?   The outside force is very small at only 14.7 pounds per square inch.

Which is the same force that the inside has. Equal concentrations of air acting on the same surface area, neither's more powerful than the other. When the pressure inside is reduced, the air can only escape if the pressure on the outside is less.

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1.  What is the mechanism that prevents expansion of all molecules remaining when 'all molecules want to expand'?

2.  What is the mechanism that prevents the pump barrier from moving away from the molecules 'that want to expand' so that a vacuum cannot be formed between the molecules and the pump?

1. The presence of other molecules in the way. Remember that there is no empty space in this model: all molecules are touching other molecules. They can't expand any more because there are other molecules in the way.
2. Not entirely clear on the question, but I will say that the reason vacuums can't form in this model is because molecules will always expand to fill them.

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I had mentioned that the outer molecules expand but cannot get 'through the hole', but they do move into it a little bit, but they need a push from the molecules behind.      You seem to be overlooking that part of the explanation to tell me 'I have the gist of it', while telling me the outer molecules do not require the push from the inner molecules to move into the pump.  Instead the push from the inner molecules is just happening at the same time but is not an essential part of the process?

It depends what process you're talking about. Expansion gets molecules into the hole, the push is what gets them through. Like I've said several times now, don't conflate the two. It's basic Newton, though: any object, like a molecule, isn't going to move from its current location/velocity unless another force acts on it.
When it expands, those forces are balanced: the same force acts in all directions from the molecule, it just so happens that in some directions it's countered. Nothing can move just by expanding though, it'll always occupy the same point it used it, it'll just start occupying more space as well. It needs a push to actually move completely through a hole.
I cannot believe how much I need to labour this point.

Expansion: one molecule occupying more space.
Push: a force from one object on another that allows the objects' velocities (so, assuming they're at rest, their position) to change.

Don't think of this as adding any new force. All the component parts would exist before a hole's opened (if we take the simpler case of a chamber with a door to a lower pressure area in). When the door's closed, all the molecules are still trying to expand, and still exerting forces on one another. The ones by the boundary exert it on the walls of the chamber, the ones further inside exert the force on the other molecules around them. That's always happening. When the door opens, all that does is reduce in one direction the force that used to counter the motion, so the pre-existing force in that direction now achieves something and becomes more than mere potential.

The push from the inner molecules is always going to happen, because it is always happening. It is not required for a molecule to expand through a hole, it is required for the molecule to move through the hole. Those are two distinct things, stop conflating them. If you place a balloon by a hole and blow it up, you'll see part of the balloon will bulge through: that's expansion. If, instead, you put the balloon by the hole and try pushing it, the whole thing will go through. They're different.

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The context of his suggestion that a larger container has more atmospheric pressure, was me asking why a small pump cannot evacuate a large container which is exactly the same problem I have already been discussing here and earlier with you.

Then, yes, it seems to come down to the energy that can be exerted. At a basic level, to create a vacuum, you would need a vacuum already. Even just one molecule existing in the pump would exert a force back into the chamber.

We are going in circles now.

You do not seem to have understood the reason for my questions and therefore your answers seem to be off on a tangent.

 Why is a powerful pump required to evacuate a large chamber which has no leaks?    What is the justification for sceptimatics claim the difficulty pulling apart magdeberg hemispheres shows a powerful pump is required?

So I asked this question:

>>I am not understanding why the pump needs a vastly greater amount of power as the container becomes emptied.   All molecules want to expand.   What force causes a weak pump to stop working?   The outside force is very small at only 14.7 pounds per square inch.

I cannot make any sense of your answer in terms of what I was asking you.

"Which is the same force that the inside has. Equal concentrations of air acting on the same surface area, neither's more powerful than the other. When the pressure inside is reduced, the air can only escape if the pressure on the outside is less. "

I can see your response applying to the standard physics model.    In the standard model a very small pump able to create a low pressure in a small container will eventually create the same low pressure in a very large container.   However the idea a small pump can depressurise a very large container causes a very big problem for sceptimatic but i have no idea why.  (larger containers have 'more atmospheric pressure')

>>The push from the inner molecules is always going to happen, because it is always happening. It is not required for a molecule to expand through a hole, it is required for the molecule to move through the hole. Those are two distinct things, stop conflating them. If you place a balloon by a hole and blow it up, you'll see part of the balloon will bulge through: that's expansion. If, instead, you put the balloon by the hole and try pushing it, the whole thing will go through. They're different.

I am not understanding these answers.   In this model the pump cannot create a space between the pump and the molecules.     But you tell me the molecules cannot go thru the hole unless they are pushed and molecules always want to expand.   If they cannot go thru the hole the pump will carry on moving and it will create a space between the pump and the molecules which implies they can expand and there will be no gap.

I cannot see anything in this model to justify the idea brian cox is an actor.    You tell me pumps need more power when fewer molecules remain but what is the mechanism to cause the pump to need infinite power??   How can the molecules interfer with the pump when there is only a small pressure the pump is working against of 14.7 pounds per square inch??

Tl;dr, you're a n00b aren't you.

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

I love it when I prove you to be wrong, and you pretend that it never happened.  Does it make you feel secure to be in denial, or do you just have a chuckle at our expense?

To my knowledge in about 50 encounters i have had with you your maths response was the only time you have come anywhere near close to proving me wrong.  I have not until now considered that you do not realise you are lying but I suppose I should allow that possibility.

Sounds to me what a coward running from a fight would say.  Have you always run from confrontations, or is this your greatest moment?

Seems to me that no matter what I say you are going to respond with some sort of shit for brains comment where you have some need to appear bigger than you really are.  What have you been right about in the last two weeks?

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I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

I love it when I prove you to be wrong, and you pretend that it never happened.  Does it make you feel secure to be in denial, or do you just have a chuckle at our expense?

To my knowledge in about 50 encounters i have had with you your maths response was the only time you have come anywhere near close to proving me wrong.  I have not until now considered that you do not realise you are lying but I suppose I should allow that possibility.

Sounds to me what a coward running from a fight would say.  Have you always run from confrontations, or is this your greatest moment?

Seems to me that no matter what I say you are going to respond with some sort of shit for brains comment where you have some need to appear bigger than you really are.  What have you been right about in the last two weeks?

I am sorry that your world is collapsing around you as you learn the truth.  I would be mad and angry as well if I was first learning about the deception that was perpetrated on humanity. 

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Quote from: jroa on September 12, 2016, 01:21:20 PM

I wonder why sokarul insists on being the angriest noob ever?  Is that the only thing he thinks he can be proud of in his sad life?

Sokarul seems a happy and well balanced person to me and pretty intelligent to go with it.   If I think about you and I just cannot understand what motivates you to behave the way you do.    Perhaps you can explain to me how you get so much joy out of being here?

I just enjoy being right.  Well, that and making you angry noobs look bad by proving you wrong.  What is your excuse?

The experience of being here is totally horrible and it does say something about my life that i would be here.

People here are so unrelentingly stupid it is just soul destroying to observe it.  I just cannot begin to understand how people can be so stupid.   It is sort of like a terrible horror movie that I have started so might as well keep on watching

Your life is so sad.  I feel for you, bro.   

You do not even make the slightest attempt to be right apart from on very rare occasions where for example you pointed out trigonometry was not as hard as i was making it out to be.  That was a rare glimse that you are capable of normal behaviour.  The rest of the time you are one of the strangest people on this forum

I love it when I prove you to be wrong, and you pretend that it never happened.  Does it make you feel secure to be in denial, or do you just have a chuckle at our expense?

To my knowledge in about 50 encounters i have had with you your maths response was the only time you have come anywhere near close to proving me wrong.  I have not until now considered that you do not realise you are lying but I suppose I should allow that possibility.

Sounds to me what a coward running from a fight would say.  Have you always run from confrontations, or is this your greatest moment?

Seems to me that no matter what I say you are going to respond with some sort of shit for brains comment where you have some need to appear bigger than you really are.  What have you been right about in the last two weeks?

In defense of jroa, I believe he did call you a newb.

Trolls trolling trolls. Pathetic, really. Jroa attempts to derail yet another thread.

Tell me, Mr. Moderator, what does any of this have to do with denpressure?

Trolls trolling trolls. Pathetic, really. Jroa attempts to derail yet another thread.

Tell me, Mr. Moderator, what does any of this have to do with denpressure?

Are you calling me a troll?