Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1470 on: August 30, 2016, 09:18:08 PM »
there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

There are no ice caps at the North pole - something you would be aware of if you had researched this topic.
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« Reply #1471 on: August 30, 2016, 10:25:24 PM »
Except you never gave me an actual cube or box, so all I can do is work with the parameters I've been given. That's the fun part.
Plus the model's got to be able to answer some questions, it's interesting to see what those answers are. Typically more interesting than both those series too, to be honest.
  It doesn't matter if I gave it or not actually, parameters were - box, triangle shaped hole in the box and cube about twice a size of hole and that means its just bigger than hole is. And you don't work with the parameters. You see in first glance that its impossible task and start twisting parameters or meaning of words or whatever you can think of to somehow weasel out from admitting that it just isn't possible.
 And really? Denpressure isn't gonna answer any questions about the world you live in. Or I. I can bet everything I have on it, even my own life. About GoT or WoT books... lets just say that its matter of taste. Seems that you just are into different kind of fantasy worlds because these books are way more interesting than this thread here. Even when they are fantasy books they at least have some touch of reality and consistency.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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« Reply #1472 on: August 30, 2016, 10:49:11 PM »
You see in first glance that its impossible task and start twisting parameters or meaning of words or whatever you can think of to somehow weasel out from admitting that it just isn't possible.

And you have to ask yourself why would a person who claims to be interested in hypothetical discussions, just for the fun of it, go so far out of their way to defend something like denpressure which can be immediately seen to have been pulled out of somebodies backside.

Perhaps you can discuss with me some of your theories that will fit the data?

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1473 on: August 30, 2016, 11:24:51 PM »
You see in first glance that its impossible task and start twisting parameters or meaning of words or whatever you can think of to somehow weasel out from admitting that it just isn't possible.

And you have to ask yourself why would a person who claims to be interested in hypothetical discussions, just for the fun of it, go so far out of their way to defend something like denpressure which can be immediately seen to have been pulled out of somebodies backside.

Perhaps you can discuss with me some of your theories that will fit the data?
"Why" is always interesting but I am really not expert in this kind of psycho* talk.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1474 on: August 30, 2016, 11:50:18 PM »
Agreed, there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

But you do not personally know that.  I can buy the flat earth idea we should personally verify things rather than just spouting what we have been told by somebody else

Totally disagree. If you research the claims and find they are corroborated by others in repeatable experiments, I see no reason to insist upon seeing everything for oneself.

For example, I believe humans have walked upon the moon. To have this belief, I don't believe it necessary to personally walk upon the moon. I am able to look at multiple sources of evidence and form my own opinion absent any empirical evidence.

This is at the core of FE delusion. If they havent seen it, it doesnt exist. If they dont understand it, it doesnt exist.  Not much of a logical or intelligent position, is it?

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1475 on: August 31, 2016, 12:02:36 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly well when looked at in the way it should be looked at.
It gets discarded as nonsense simply because most people do not understand the simplicity of it for starters.

I keep seeing post after post denying it by people who actually cannot even get a grip on the simple basics of it. The reason why they can't is because they refuse to veer away from the path set out for them by mainstream brainwashing.

I get told time and time again how I'm crazy and those who call me it, are apparently intelligent and yet they can't even grasp  that Jane is only trying to understand my model from MY perspective so she can understand how that model COULD potentially work in MY HYPOTHETICAL world.

It appears that supposed intelligent people are getting unbelievable scared of allowing another person to gain an interest in alternatives. I wonder why?

I'm being told by so called intelligent scientific people that my model doesn't fit anything in reality and yet the reality it doesn't fit is a supposed reality of spinning/floating masses of nuclear fires in the blackness of space and one nuclear fire so large it can swallow thousands of Earth's.

I get told of the reality of WARPED SPACE TIME.
I get told of the reality of DARK MATTER.
I get told of the reality of WORMHOLES.
I get told of the reality of GRAVITY.

The list is endless of this kind of stuff and none of it is provable, at all. It's just told to us and set out in such a way as to brainwash people into believing it all.

Obscure tests supposedly proving this and that are so delicate as to be rendered way out of most people's attempts to replicate.

The list is endless of this stuff and yet my thoughts are immediately stamped on by the very same people who accept utter fantasy like that and yet refuse to even attempt to understand how certain stuff works in my model that actually do show real life potential in experiments.

Very few people are daring or even willing to understand my model. Very few people on the global side I mean.
One person is attempting to do it and she is in the process of being slaughtered or almost in the midst of being beat up into submission.

I think Jane is a lot stronger than people think and I don't  think she is an easy follower of peer pressure to alter her thoughts.

If anyone wants to attack anyone for over this then attack me but do not attack someone who is simply trying to understand how my alternate model is.
If people are genuine they would attempt to understand it themselves.
Clearly some are so frenzied that they can't/won't see past their own indoctrinated/peer pressured noses.

By not abandoning this hypothesis and painstakingly nibbling away at it, Jane has come a long way in grasping it as she goes.
There's a lot Jane is still trying to grasp, as I am myself. I haven't suddenly got ALL the answers and I haven't suddenly been given a blueprint of the truth.

Jane has an interest. She is on here to test her mind and to hopefully fit pieces of the jigsaw together. Everyone should at least attempt to do so, instead of just accepting everything that was battered into them from an early age until present.


Those who are here for fun and ridicule - fair enough. Just state your intentions and we can move on. Googleotomy stated his/her's that he/she is only here for the fun of it and to ridicule alternate thoughts. That's fine. At least people can see the goal set by him/her.

Anyone that's here to look deeper into the rabbit hole or interested in seeing where the detours take them, then follow the routes out of real interest and dare to tread the path.

Now I'm 100% behind my denpressure model. It works. It's a reality and covers a lot of the fantasy of what we were all brainwashed with at school, college, university, etc.

I don't expect anyone to believe what I'm saying but I would hope  that genuine people would take the time to understand.

I see a few people are genuinely interested and one or two being way further ahead in grasping it as it goes. Jane is far and above anyone else in seeing how it's  panning out. She's not saying it's true. She's not putting it out as a truth or trying to coax people into believing it. She's merely trying to figure it all out so it could potentially make some sense throughout.

Take a leaf out of Jane's book and use your LOGICAL minds and COMMON SENSE, because ultimately this will aid you in understanding it.


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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1476 on: August 31, 2016, 12:03:50 AM »
there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

There are no ice caps at the North pole - something you would be aware of if you had researched this topic.

You must be joking if you think there aren't polar ice caps. They may not be at the geographic north pole per se, but there are certainly ice caps in the vicinity.

Why do you nitpick me so relentlessly?

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Aliveandkicking

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1477 on: August 31, 2016, 12:14:43 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1478 on: August 31, 2016, 12:16:18 AM »
there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

There are no ice caps at the North pole - something you would be aware of if you had researched this topic.

You must be joking if you think there aren't polar ice caps. They may not be at the geographic north pole per se, but there are certainly ice caps in the vicinity.

Why do you nitpick me so relentlessly?

The north pole is in the middle of an ocean.   You might as well tell me there are mountains in the vicinity.

And you think i am the nitpicker?

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1479 on: August 31, 2016, 12:18:59 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1480 on: August 31, 2016, 12:23:40 AM »
I'd say the fact that we can predict solar and lunar eclipses using our model would be the most cost-effective method of disproving FET (thus denpressure).

Tell me, when and where would the next solar eclipse be visible under your model? Is there any way of predicting such phenomena?

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1481 on: August 31, 2016, 12:38:42 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

I already explained this to you:

 We can easily show using water inside tubes that the forces being used to create low pressure in different size chambers are identical.

We can see that from the experiment because:

1.  For each individual chamber we can create the required pressure difference using only the height of water in the tube and fiddling around with the distance the water has to travel along the tube.  The larger chamber will require a greater distance of travel but the height difference in the tube can be kept the same.

2. For each individual chamber we can measure the pressure difference between the chamber and the outside air using the height of water

3. We can compare the pressure difference between the chambers by connecting them together with a tube filled with water.

It should be obvious that a very small pump that can produce 0.001 bar can eventually evacuate a very large perfectly sealed container and you can easily prove yourself a small pump will eventually create identical pressures inside different sized containers if there are no leaks.

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1482 on: August 31, 2016, 12:47:20 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

I already explained this to you:

 We can easily show using water inside tubes that the forces being used to create low pressure in different size chambers are identical.

We can see that from the experiment because:

1.  For each individual chamber we can create the required pressure difference using only the height of water in the tube and fiddling around with the distance the water has to travel along the tube.  The larger chamber will require a greater distance of travel but the height difference in the tube can be kept the same.

2. For each individual chamber we can measure the pressure difference between the chamber and the outside air using the height of water

3. We can compare the pressure difference between the chambers by connecting them together with a tube filled with water.

It should be obvious that a very small pump that can produce 0.001 bar can eventually evacuate a very large perfectly sealed container and you can easily prove yourself a small pump will eventually create identical pressures inside different sized containers if there are no leaks.
I honestly don't know what you mean. You're making little sense.

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1483 on: August 31, 2016, 01:11:12 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

I already explained this to you:

 We can easily show using water inside tubes that the forces being used to create low pressure in different size chambers are identical.

We can see that from the experiment because:

1.  For each individual chamber we can create the required pressure difference using only the height of water in the tube and fiddling around with the distance the water has to travel along the tube.  The larger chamber will require a greater distance of travel but the height difference in the tube can be kept the same.

2. For each individual chamber we can measure the pressure difference between the chamber and the outside air using the height of water

3. We can compare the pressure difference between the chambers by connecting them together with a tube filled with water.

It should be obvious that a very small pump that can produce 0.001 bar can eventually evacuate a very large perfectly sealed container and you can easily prove yourself a small pump will eventually create identical pressures inside different sized containers if there are no leaks.
I honestly don't know what you mean. You're making little sense.

You claimed a vacuum pump requires huge force to create low pressure in a very large container.

For 20 bucks you can prove that is not true.    You can make a pressure gauge using water in a tube, and using the same water and tube you can create low pressure.
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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1484 on: August 31, 2016, 01:20:21 AM »
there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

There are no ice caps at the North pole - something you would be aware of if you had researched this topic.

You must be joking if you think there aren't polar ice caps. They may not be at the geographic north pole per se, but there are certainly ice caps in the vicinity.

Why do you nitpick me so relentlessly?

The north pole is in the middle of an ocean.   You might as well tell me there are mountains in the vicinity.

And you think i am the nitpicker?

oh yes. you are a nitpicker. Yes, they are not ice CAPS in that they are not CAPPING land, but in another sense they cap the top (and bottom) of the earth. He is at the very worst, imprecise and also arguably quite accurate. Either way, you ARE a nitpicker.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1485 on: August 31, 2016, 01:22:44 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

I already explained this to you:

 We can easily show using water inside tubes that the forces being used to create low pressure in different size chambers are identical.

We can see that from the experiment because:

1.  For each individual chamber we can create the required pressure difference using only the height of water in the tube and fiddling around with the distance the water has to travel along the tube.  The larger chamber will require a greater distance of travel but the height difference in the tube can be kept the same.

2. For each individual chamber we can measure the pressure difference between the chamber and the outside air using the height of water

3. We can compare the pressure difference between the chambers by connecting them together with a tube filled with water.

It should be obvious that a very small pump that can produce 0.001 bar can eventually evacuate a very large perfectly sealed container and you can easily prove yourself a small pump will eventually create identical pressures inside different sized containers if there are no leaks.
I honestly don't know what you mean. You're making little sense.

You claimed a vacuum pump requires huge force to create low pressure in a very large container.

For 20 bucks you can prove that is not true.    You can make a pressure gauge using water in a tube, and using the same water and tube you can create low pressure.
You're still making no sense. I think the reason why you're making no sense is because you don't understand what's been talked about.
If you did, you wouldn't be talking about water and pressure gauges.

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fliggs

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1486 on: August 31, 2016, 01:23:53 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

no one can prove ANYTHING to you for the same reason you cannot convince a fool. You lack the intellectual integrity. Denpressures is bad science fiction with is idiotic jawbreaker alternatives for atoms and molecules which are seemingly sentient in their actions. In addition denpressure requires gases to move absolutely contrary to the way we know it they do.

But the real moronicity of your stupid hypothesis is that it is utterly unworkable outside of our own planet. Just because you THINK there are no other planets or space travel does not mean it is so.

In fact the ONLY evidence you have provided is your own incredulity - which is not evidence. It is simply ignorance and stupidity, which you ahve in spades.

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1487 on: August 31, 2016, 01:29:15 AM »
there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

There are no ice caps at the North pole - something you would be aware of if you had researched this topic.

You must be joking if you think there aren't polar ice caps. They may not be at the geographic north pole per se, but there are certainly ice caps in the vicinity.

Why do you nitpick me so relentlessly?

The north pole is in the middle of an ocean.   You might as well tell me there are mountains in the vicinity.

And you think i am the nitpicker?

oh yes. you are a nitpicker. Yes, they are not ice CAPS in that they are not CAPPING land, but in another sense they cap the top (and bottom) of the earth. He is at the very worst, imprecise and also arguably quite accurate. Either way, you ARE a nitpicker.

But there is some purpose to it.  I like to be seen to be even handed.   I am even handed.    Besides it would be far more interesting to get into a debate that had some substance where it was possible to learn something.   It would be better to forget about flat earth and find something useful to argue about.   For example is America an evil empire?

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1488 on: August 31, 2016, 01:30:33 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

no one can prove ANYTHING to you for the same reason you cannot convince a fool. You lack the intellectual integrity. Denpressures is bad science fiction with is idiotic jawbreaker alternatives for atoms and molecules which are seemingly sentient in their actions. In addition denpressure requires gases to move absolutely contrary to the way we know it they do.

But the real moronicity of your stupid hypothesis is that it is utterly unworkable outside of our own planet. Just because you THINK there are no other planets or space travel does not mean it is so.

In fact the ONLY evidence you have provided is your own incredulity - which is not evidence. It is simply ignorance and stupidity, which you ahve in spades.
Would you like to tell me what you have physically observed to prove your bullshit?
I don't mean films and documentaries and such. I mean what you know for certain about your world.

I won't call you stupid. I will call you gullible and extremely naive in SPADES.
We are all naive and gullible but some of us attempt to make sure we don't continually get bitten.
You must love the mainstream wasp stings.

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Aliveandkicking

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1489 on: August 31, 2016, 01:36:28 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

I already explained this to you:

 We can easily show using water inside tubes that the forces being used to create low pressure in different size chambers are identical.

We can see that from the experiment because:

1.  For each individual chamber we can create the required pressure difference using only the height of water in the tube and fiddling around with the distance the water has to travel along the tube.  The larger chamber will require a greater distance of travel but the height difference in the tube can be kept the same.

2. For each individual chamber we can measure the pressure difference between the chamber and the outside air using the height of water

3. We can compare the pressure difference between the chambers by connecting them together with a tube filled with water.

It should be obvious that a very small pump that can produce 0.001 bar can eventually evacuate a very large perfectly sealed container and you can easily prove yourself a small pump will eventually create identical pressures inside different sized containers if there are no leaks.
I honestly don't know what you mean. You're making little sense.

You claimed a vacuum pump requires huge force to create low pressure in a very large container.

For 20 bucks you can prove that is not true.    You can make a pressure gauge using water in a tube, and using the same water and tube you can create low pressure.
You're still making no sense. I think the reason why you're making no sense is because you don't understand what's been talked about.
If you did, you wouldn't be talking about water and pressure gauges.

You claimed Brian cox is an actor, because of something to do with the impossibility of creating a very large low pressure chamber.

ten pages later I have no idea how you have created that idea.   I am really trying to find out.

You can create a surprisingly low pressure of 0.0231Atm using only water and a very long pipe in any size of chamber.  If you do it when it is almost freezing you can get down  to 0.006ATM.

So what are you talking about?  Not one single person here knows what you are talking about.      Jane is most likely you and simply parrots your nonsense.


  However, all pumps are only working with a very small pressure difference if they are expelling air into atmospheric pressure and there is no particular strength needed to do that.
No they're not. In your mind they're working with a small pressure difference but the reality is the pressure difference is huge.
You don't appreciate it because you're not under that pressure difference.
a clue is the magdeburg hemispheres.
This will tell you that there is no small pressure difference.

I just do not get it.  When I read what I said, and how you have replied,  it is like you have the brain of an amoeba.

Re: The magdeberg experiment

3.  The pressure difference in the magdeburg experiment between the inside and outside of the hemisphere is a small one at only one atmosphere, the hemispheres are however sufficiently large that a large amount of force can be created to keep them together, as far as the pump is considered it only experiences a small force to create those large forces. 
The larger the container being evacuated, the more pressure upon that container and the stronger the force of the pump needed to stop that evacuated pressure from being pushed back inside the chamber.

And you just keep going with it.
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« Reply #1490 on: August 31, 2016, 01:49:47 AM »
Would YOU like to tell me what you have observed to justify YOUR bullshit??

You have a lot of nerve criticizing him when you can't even tell me anything verifiable about how the sun works in your model.

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1491 on: August 31, 2016, 02:03:28 AM »
there is no land at the north pole at all, only seawater and ice caps.

There are no ice caps at the North pole - something you would be aware of if you had researched this topic.

You must be joking if you think there aren't polar ice caps. They may not be at the geographic north pole per se, but there are certainly ice caps in the vicinity.

Why do you nitpick me so relentlessly?

The north pole is in the middle of an ocean.   You might as well tell me there are mountains in the vicinity.

And you think i am the nitpicker?

oh yes. you are a nitpicker. Yes, they are not ice CAPS in that they are not CAPPING land, but in another sense they cap the top (and bottom) of the earth. He is at the very worst, imprecise and also arguably quite accurate. Either way, you ARE a nitpicker.

But there is some purpose to it.  I like to be seen to be even handed.   I am even handed.    Besides it would be far more interesting to get into a debate that had some substance where it was possible to learn something.   It would be better to forget about flat earth and find something useful to argue about.   For example is America an evil empire?

there is a place for nitpicking. constitutional law, brain surgery and space travel. Most other endeavours have some inbuilt flexibility. And when discussing garbage like denpressure, why even both with moderate accuracy when even broad strokes totally obliterates it?

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1492 on: August 31, 2016, 02:05:17 AM »
I won't call you stupid. I will call you gullible and extremely naive in SPADES.

Well, nobody is yet naive enough to believe a story about the north pole being a giant invisible mountain with a sun sized electrode shining through a magic crystal onto an invisible ice dome.  Not even you.  :-\
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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1493 on: August 31, 2016, 02:05:28 AM »
Denpressure fits this world perfectly

Bullshit. 20 bucks of tubing can  show you it is retarded
Saying 20 bucks of tubing can prove different does not prove different.
How about telling me how you'd go about proving what I say is wrong.

no one can prove ANYTHING to you for the same reason you cannot convince a fool. You lack the intellectual integrity. Denpressures is bad science fiction with is idiotic jawbreaker alternatives for atoms and molecules which are seemingly sentient in their actions. In addition denpressure requires gases to move absolutely contrary to the way we know it they do.

But the real moronicity of your stupid hypothesis is that it is utterly unworkable outside of our own planet. Just because you THINK there are no other planets or space travel does not mean it is so.

In fact the ONLY evidence you have provided is your own incredulity - which is not evidence. It is simply ignorance and stupidity, which you ahve in spades.
Would you like to tell me what you have physically observed to prove your bullshit?
I don't mean films and documentaries and such. I mean what you know for certain about your world.

I won't call you stupid. I will call you gullible and extremely naive in SPADES.
We are all naive and gullible but some of us attempt to make sure we don't continually get bitten.
You must love the mainstream wasp stings.

It's been done to death, scepti-moron.

Ships over the horizon.
Satellites
Space travel
Photos
Sun setting and rising.

and 10,000 other things.

In the meantime your approach to molecules sounds sadly reminiscent of the move the Langoliers.

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fliggs

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1494 on: August 31, 2016, 02:07:43 AM »
Would YOU like to tell me what you have observed to justify YOUR bullshit??

You have a lot of nerve criticizing him when you can't even tell me anything verifiable about how the sun works in your model.

The sun is a big torch. Wait for the upcoming Duracell Hypothesis from scepti-moron.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1495 on: August 31, 2016, 02:12:22 AM »
You claimed Brian cox is an actor, because of something to do with the impossibility of creating a very large low pressure chamber.

ten pages later I have no idea how you have created that idea.   I am really trying to find out.

You can create a surprisingly low pressure of 0.0231Atm using only water and a very long pipe in any size of chamber.

So what are you talking about.  Not one single person here knows what you are talking about.      Jane is most likely you and simply parrots your nonsense.

Do you agree that there is more atmospheric pressure inside a larger container?


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Aliveandkicking

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1496 on: August 31, 2016, 02:14:45 AM »
I won't call you stupid. I will call you gullible and extremely naive in SPADES.

Well, nobody is yet naive enough to believe a story about the north pole being a giant invisible mountain with a sun sized electrode shining through a magic crystal onto an invisible ice dome.  Not even you.  :-\

If only I had more faith you were right.

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sceptimatic

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1497 on: August 31, 2016, 02:15:03 AM »
Would YOU like to tell me what you have observed to justify YOUR bullshit??

You have a lot of nerve criticizing him when you can't even tell me anything verifiable about how the sun works in your model.
How about you answer the same question, because you people are hitting me with exactly the same stuff, Mr hypocritical.

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fliggs

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1498 on: August 31, 2016, 02:15:38 AM »
You claimed Brian cox is an actor, because of something to do with the impossibility of creating a very large low pressure chamber.

ten pages later I have no idea how you have created that idea.   I am really trying to find out.

You can create a surprisingly low pressure of 0.0231Atm using only water and a very long pipe in any size of chamber.

So what are you talking about.  Not one single person here knows what you are talking about.      Jane is most likely you and simply parrots your nonsense.

Do you agree that there is more atmospheric pressure inside a larger container?

No. there is more ATMOSPHERE, not more pressure.

That is assuming that size of container is the only variable.

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Aliveandkicking

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Re: Den Pressure - A Definable Hypothesis & Experiments (Scepti, iWitness)
« Reply #1499 on: August 31, 2016, 02:18:16 AM »
You claimed Brian cox is an actor, because of something to do with the impossibility of creating a very large low pressure chamber.

ten pages later I have no idea how you have created that idea.   I am really trying to find out.

You can create a surprisingly low pressure of 0.0231Atm using only water and a very long pipe in any size of chamber.

So what are you talking about.  Not one single person here knows what you are talking about.      Jane is most likely you and simply parrots your nonsense.

Do you agree that there is more atmospheric pressure inside a larger container?

What does it mean there is more atmospheric pressure?    Atmospheric pressure is a reference pressure.  Other pressures are more or less than atmospheric pressure.