Total solar eclipse

About every 18 months there is a total solar eclipse that is visible from different locations on earth.
With it we can figure out the size of the umbra, penumbra, and both their paths across the earth. What can we figure out about the shape of the earth,  size of both bodies (moon/sun), and there distance from us?

Please provide evidence for your claim and/or sources. I'm not interested in random untested thoughts off of the top of your head, although I realize most won't be able to stop themselves.

We can figure out nothing. All we can do is follow the observations to a conclusion under the model already supposed. Eclipses prove nothing: they could be evidence against a model if that model had no explanation, but beyond that the only way to interpret them is through the lens of the model already held.

Under DET, we can work out relative distances and sizes of the Sun and moon, and their locations with respect to a point on Earth (giving us their position in circular polar coordinates, with one unknown parameter for radius). We can tell nothing about the shape of the Earth as the Earth's shape and subsequent model needs to be known in order to interpret the observations.

I don't know what kind of evidence or sources you want. What I say is pure logic, I'd hope that requires no evidence. The only source for DET I may give is in my sig.
Beyond that, it seems like a pointless claim: FEers will not be able to provide sources because the only sources you respect will come from a location that favors RET.

Uh now I remember why I stopped coming here. Getting talked down to for asking a question your legitimettaly curious about leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

About every 18 months there is a total solar eclipse that is visible from different locations on earth.
With it we can figure out the size of the umbra, penumbra, and both their paths across the earth. What can we figure out about the shape of the earth,  size of both bodies (moon/sun), and there distance from us?

Please provide evidence for your claim and/or sources. I'm not interested in random untested thoughts off of the top of your head, although I realize most won't be able to stop themselves.

Don't mind him.  He's just promoting his own unique model.

The curious accident is that the angle subtended by the moon and sun are about the same,  if they weren't then we would not get a total solar eclipse.   Without knowing the sizes or distances to the moon and sun,  I think there are multiple geometric solutions.    A bigger problem for the flat earth is a lunar eclipse,  which is of course impossible,  so the shadow object has to be invented.

We can figure out nothing. All we can do is follow the observations to a conclusion under the model already supposed.

Stop acting like the victim because your model isn't "supposed". There are no assumptions going on. We have a model (and thousands of years of experiments), and our observations match the model. You have a model, and the observations don't match it. It's that simple.

Uh now I remember why I stopped coming here. Getting talked down to for asking a question your legitimettaly curious about leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

I wasn't talking down to anyone, I was answering the question. If speaking to you as I would an equal is 'talking down' from your perspective, that says far more about you than me.

Don't mind him.  He's just promoting his own unique model.

No, I'm answering the question. I note you offer no actual response to what I said.

Stop acting like the victim because your model isn't "supposed".

I'm not acting like a victim, I'm stating a fact. Eclipses tell us nothing unless we know the context in which they occur.

You have a model, and the observations don't match it.

You could always try to justify a claim for once in your life.

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Stop acting like the victim because your model isn't "supposed".

I'm not acting like a victim, I'm stating a fact. Eclipses tell us nothing unless we know the context in which they occur.

There is no context in play here. It's simple:

Accepted/proven explanation:
The moon passes in front of the sun while in orbit, and we get a penumbra and umbra that we would expect from a sun 93 million miles away and a moon 240,000 miles away.

Dual Earth explanation:
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