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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #870 on: March 09, 2016, 07:13:24 PM »
I contacted NASA and asked for all the information on the Apollo 11 mission.

Their first response was providing links to information on line. They also asked for clarification about the type of information I wanted.

I will post one link they provided for review and discussion. More will follow since it will be a whole lot to discuss. 

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

I have contacted NASA before for information.  For an organization involved in a conspiracy they seem a little too willing to share information with the general public to me.

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« Reply #871 on: March 09, 2016, 10:50:54 PM »
Yes, sound can travel through solids and in fact travels through solids far better than in gases like air. However it is very difficult for organic ears and microphones to pick up these sounds unless it can be projected from the solid back into a gas.

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« Reply #872 on: March 10, 2016, 01:31:13 AM »
Again you betray how little you know about sound propagation and detection.

Yes, sound can travel through solids and in fact travels through solids far better than in gases like air. However it is very difficult for organic ears and microphones to pick up these sounds unless it can be projected from the solid back into a gas.
*groan*
ALL of the examples given have sound travelling through a solid then back through a gas,
The gas being air within the suit or ISS.
you have debunked your own argument.

Here's an example of sound NOT travelling through solids "back into gas"
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."



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In the case of the hammer in the moon the high impact creates sound that propagates up the arm and is then projected into the suit atmosphere by the suit material; rather like a drum. However the noise still had to have a big amplitude to be picked up. Small tasks like driving bolts and tapping equipment just don't generate enough amplitude. Attach a sensitive seismometer and you would pick up the noise however.

Do us a favour and educate yourself before passing criticism because all you are doing is make yourself look foolish.
   
Uh hu,
"big amplitude" like crunching regolith underfoot,
or a clattering moon buggy compartment lid.

These noises on the Apollo audio debunk your whole argument.

maybe you explain how these very subtle noises are recorded in the vacuum,
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« Reply #873 on: March 10, 2016, 01:40:52 AM »
Ok

They are solid. Still good.

The ISS is solid.

This goes back to the many factors idea. It depends.

Nothing you posted goes against anything we said. Do you want me to tell you what you are missing or are you going to figure it out?
I have only being waiting 2 whole pages for any sort of detailed response,
Thankfully it now appears you are prepared to actually add detail to your very vague replies.

Please continue.
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
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« Reply #874 on: March 10, 2016, 01:48:56 AM »
Nothing you posted goes against anything we said. Do you want me to tell you what you are missing or are you going to figure it out?

I tried that a few times already,  and he goes into this weird reversal mode where he misquotes what ever you say.   I don't think there is any escape from the conspiracy mind trap.

Nope you have posting contradictory and inaccurate cobblers for a while now,
and it appears you are now in full blown avoidance,
but I understand you are now wary of direct and detailed responses because it never really works our well for you does it.

Talking of the conspiracy mind trap have you worked out what the reptilians want yet ?

your woo woo meltdown involved insisting the evidence for reptilian moon bases full of kidnapped human slaves was overwhelming    ;D

Any new developments in your woo woo research ?
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 02:17:10 AM by feuk »
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #875 on: March 10, 2016, 01:55:16 AM »
I contacted NASA and asked for all the information on the Apollo 11 mission.

Their first response was providing links to information on line. They also asked for clarification about the type of information I wanted
So you asked for "all the information on the Apollo 11 mission" and they sent you an internet link   ;D

Wow.
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« Reply #876 on: March 10, 2016, 04:46:02 AM »
Again you betray how little you know about sound propagation and detection.

Yes, sound can travel through solids and in fact travels through solids far better than in gases like air. However it is very difficult for organic ears and microphones to pick up these sounds unless it can be projected from the solid back into a gas.
*groan*
ALL of the examples given have sound travelling through a solid then back through a gas,
The gas being air within the suit or ISS.
you have debunked your own argument.

If you look at the second half of my post you'll see where I stated that the sound propagated back into the gas because of the nature of the suit acting like a drum.
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Here's an example of sound NOT travelling through solids "back into gas"
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."



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In the case of the hammer in the moon the high impact creates sound that propagates up the arm and is then projected into the suit atmosphere by the suit material; rather like a drum. However the noise still had to have a big amplitude to be picked up. Small tasks like driving bolts and tapping equipment just don't generate enough amplitude. Attach a sensitive seismometer and you would pick up the noise however.

Do us a favour and educate yourself before passing criticism because all you are doing is make yourself look foolish.
   
Uh hu,
"big amplitude" like crunching regolith underfoot,
or a clattering moon buggy compartment lid.

These noises on the Apollo audio debunk your whole argument.

maybe you explain how these very subtle noises are recorded in the vacuum,
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #877 on: March 10, 2016, 04:52:23 AM »
Talking of the conspiracy mind trap have you worked out what the reptilians want yet ?
your woo woo meltdown involved insisting the evidence for reptilian moon bases full of kidnapped human slaves was overwhelming    ;D

Actually I never said the evidence for reptillian moon bases full of kidnapped human slaves was overwhelming,   what I actually said was the evidence was far stronger than the evidence for the moon landings being faked.   What does that tell you?

Sorry if your fragile ego took that as an insult,  that in itself is somewhat telling.   And it doesn't look good for your critical thinking abilities.



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« Reply #878 on: March 10, 2016, 05:46:19 AM »
And if you look at the second half of my already posted response you will notice sound is transmitted onto the Apollo audio with no suit contact.
Negating the "drum skin" defence.
Also this "drum skin" phenomena is now dropped by NASA because it stopped happening on official NASA audio after 1972  ;D

Any examples of this "drum skin" phenomena on any shuttle or ISS excursion is greatly received.
(of course I have asked before weeks ago, the only reply was the sound of crickets, maybe you will provide the necessary supportive evidence)

Thanks in advance  ;D
Again you betray how little you know about sound propagation and detection.

Yes, sound can travel through solids and in fact travels through solids far better than in gases like air. However it is very difficult for organic ears and microphones to pick up these sounds unless it can be projected from the solid back into a gas.
*groan*
ALL of the examples given have sound travelling through a solid then back through a gas,
The gas being air within the suit or ISS.
you have debunked your own argument.

If you look at the second half of my post you'll see where I stated that the sound propagated back into the gas because of the nature of the suit acting like a drum.
Quote
Here's an example of sound NOT travelling through solids "back into gas"
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."



Quote

In the case of the hammer in the moon the high impact creates sound that propagates up the arm and is then projected into the suit atmosphere by the suit material; rather like a drum. However the noise still had to have a big amplitude to be picked up. Small tasks like driving bolts and tapping equipment just don't generate enough amplitude. Attach a sensitive seismometer and you would pick up the noise however.

Do us a favour and educate yourself before passing criticism because all you are doing is make yourself look foolish.
   
Uh hu,
"big amplitude" like crunching regolith underfoot,
or a clattering moon buggy compartment lid.

These noises on the Apollo audio debunk your whole argument.
 
maybe you explain how these very subtle noises are recorded in the vacuum,
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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« Reply #879 on: March 10, 2016, 05:58:04 AM »
Sorry if your fragile ego took that as an insult,  that in itself is somewhat telling.

Feuk clearly did not take it as an insult.

He took it as you making a capering clown of yourself & laughed at you.

We all did, psycho.

You are completely incapable of distinguishing between Words & Reality, aren't you?

Do you honestly not understand how much of a fool you have made of yourself on this forum?

Is this your intention; to just disgust people away with your bizarre & repellent personality?

What in the name of God did you DO to end up with such a rotten life?

I am genuinely curious; it must've been something REALLY bad.

Tell us, stunted & poisonous disinfo-thing; what did you DO?
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« Reply #880 on: March 10, 2016, 06:03:45 AM »
Talking of the conspiracy mind trap have you worked out what the reptilians want yet ?
your woo woo meltdown involved insisting the evidence for reptilian moon bases full of kidnapped human slaves was overwhelming    ;D

Actually I never said the evidence for reptillian moon bases full of kidnapped human slaves was overwhelming,   what I actually said was the evidence was far stronger than the evidence for the moon landings being faked.   What does that tell you?
That you are scared to engage in any meaningful information exchange ?
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Sorry if your fragile ego took that as an insult,  that in itself is somewhat telling.   And it doesn't look good for your critical thinking abilities.


 
 

My "fragile ego" ?
aaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha...oh man,
You accuse me of lacking critical thinking.....aaaaaaaaaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
Internet comedy gold.

Maybe you could apply this "critical thinking" to the obvious plot holes in your "sound propagation" narrative to the history of officially sanctioned space missions,

No, didn't think so,
Maybe you could just stay on topic and respond to the replies that highlight the obvious problems,
No ?
Didn't think so.

Why ?
Because YOU have a "fragile ego" and would rather post anything other than content that might lead to reassessing your rather blinkered belief system.

BBB  ;D
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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« Reply #881 on: March 10, 2016, 06:06:12 AM »
 :)
shuffled to top incase it gets forgotten about.
And if you look at the second half of my already posted response you will notice sound is transmitted onto the Apollo audio with no suit contact.
Negating the "drum skin" defence.
Also this "drum skin" phenomena is now dropped by NASA because it stopped happening on official NASA audio after 1972  ;D

Any examples of this "drum skin" phenomena on any shuttle or ISS excursion is greatly received.
(of course I have asked before weeks ago, the only reply was the sound of crickets, maybe you will provide the necessary supportive evidence)

Thanks in advance  ;D
Again you betray how little you know about sound propagation and detection.

Yes, sound can travel through solids and in fact travels through solids far better than in gases like air. However it is very difficult for organic ears and microphones to pick up these sounds unless it can be projected from the solid back into a gas.
*groan*
ALL of the examples given have sound travelling through a solid then back through a gas,
The gas being air within the suit or ISS.
you have debunked your own argument.

If you look at the second half of my post you'll see where I stated that the sound propagated back into the gas because of the nature of the suit acting like a drum.
Quote
Here's an example of sound NOT travelling through solids "back into gas"
" One interesting thing that happens is that when you put your crewmates in the airlock to perform an EVA and then shut the hatch, at first you can hear a bunch of clanging as their metal tools softly strike the other equipment, handrails, or the hull of the small airlock.  Then as you depress the airlock it still looks exactly the same through the hatch window.  But now the clanging sound is gone.  You can see their equipment bumping into stuff as before, but now it is silent."



Quote

In the case of the hammer in the moon the high impact creates sound that propagates up the arm and is then projected into the suit atmosphere by the suit material; rather like a drum. However the noise still had to have a big amplitude to be picked up. Small tasks like driving bolts and tapping equipment just don't generate enough amplitude. Attach a sensitive seismometer and you would pick up the noise however.

Do us a favour and educate yourself before passing criticism because all you are doing is make yourself look foolish.
   
Uh hu,
"big amplitude" like crunching regolith underfoot,
or a clattering moon buggy compartment lid.

These noises on the Apollo audio debunk your whole argument.
 
maybe you explain how these very subtle noises are recorded in the vacuum,
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #882 on: March 10, 2016, 06:09:49 AM »
Sorry if your fragile ego took that as an insult,  that in itself is somewhat telling.

Feuk clearly did not take it as an insult.

He took it as you making a capering clown of yourself & laughed at you.

We all did, psycho.

You are completely incapable of distinguishing between Words & Reality, aren't you?

Do you honestly not understand how much of a fool you have made of yourself on this forum?

Is this your intention; to just disgust people away with your bizarre & repellent personality?

What in the name of God did you DO to end up with such a rotten life?

I am genuinely curious; it must've been something REALLY bad.

Tell us, stunted & poisonous disinfo-thing; what did you DO?

Nope we are all laughing at the dumb feuck.  ( when we are not laughing at you :) )   Did you figure out yet why nobody likes you?   

Just for your info, life in Australia is pretty good,  top temp 34C today,  35C over the long weekend coming up,  good beer weather.   
Better than the miserable existence you must have in the freezing rain in the UK.   I wouldn't mind being in Kyoto for cherry blossom,  but no complaints otherwise.

Why you continue to erode your sanity on these sort of forums is beyond me.   I mean there must have been a time in your life when you actually HAD a life,  now, here you are telling strangers to go call a suicide hotline,  just because you don't understand basic physics,  what sort of a looney thinks that's normal behaviour. 




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« Reply #883 on: March 10, 2016, 06:12:44 AM »

My "fragile ego" ?
aaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha...oh man,
You accuse me of lacking critical thinking.....aaaaaaaaaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
Internet comedy gold.

Maybe you could apply this "critical thinking" to the obvious plot holes in your "sound propagation" narrative to the history of officially sanctioned space missions,

No, didn't think so,
Maybe you could just stay on topic and respond to the replies that highlight the obvious problems,
No ?
Didn't think so.

Why ?
Because YOU have a "fragile ego" and would rather post anything other than content that might lead to reassessing your rather blinkered belief system.

BBB  ;D

Bingo!   I think you just made my case.   Nice to hit a nerve now and then.
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« Reply #884 on: March 10, 2016, 06:30:54 AM »
Nope we are all laughing at the dumb feuck.

Well I'm laughing at YOU...

When I'm not cringing at how repellent & unfunny your attempts at 'humour' are, that is.

So you are revealed as a liar yet again.

Seriously; what did you DO to end up with such a rotten life?
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« Reply #885 on: March 10, 2016, 08:06:24 AM »
Quote from: Rayzor link=topic=65666.msg1765555#msg1765555
Bingo!   I think you just made my case.   Nice to hit a nerve now and then.
   
Pfthaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aaaaaaha ha ha ha aaaa....

Your "case" has being left unattended and passers by are eyeing it suspiciously  :D

"hit a nerve" ? aaaaaaaaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha ha aaaaa oh man,
You actually believe that ?  ;D

Isn't it about 3am in oz ?
and you're slumped over a computer desperately trying to avoid the thread subject,
accusing others of being upset and obsessive  ;D

now,
Any on topic replies matey ?
any plans to defend your manic anti scientific rants ?

Didn't think so.

Sleep well my blistered bumbling bubbling over bottling friend  ;D
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« Reply #886 on: March 10, 2016, 08:50:22 AM »
Isn't it about 3am in oz ?
and you're slumped over a computer desperately trying to avoid the thread subject,
accusing others of being upset and obsessive  ;D

Oh no, look, this is how Rayzor lives:

Just for your info, life in Australia is pretty good,  top temp 34C today,  35C over the long weekend coming up,  good beer weather.   
Better than the miserable existence you must have in the freezing rain in the UK.   I wouldn't mind being in Kyoto for cherry blossom,  but no complaints otherwise.

The rest of his post was the usual psychopathic mirroring technique he & his psychopathic shill pals have been employing against me since December...

But you get the picture.

He has a WONDERFUL life & spending 16 hours of every day gatekeeping a flat earth forum IN NO WAY PLAYS A PART IN THAT LIFE.

Nuh-huh. Just no Way.

He's also designed satellite systems, seen a space shuttle launch, goes to Kyoto for the cherry blossom & has visited CERN with his distinguished physicist sons...

Though he doesn't remember much of the last part.

Oh dear; it's no good is it?

He's just a complete failure ain't he?

Still, let's see how long it takes for him to pop back up & say it's US who are the failures...

Cos he just loves his psychopathic mirroring don't he!

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« Reply #887 on: March 10, 2016, 09:03:45 AM »
@ the non debunking debunker.

Post your most compelling evidence that men went to the moon,

[paraphrase] "no because I'm scared and haven't really looked into it"

See above for controlled experiment,
Response ?
Didn't think so.

any response to my post a few pages back ?
No ?
Didn't think so.

yup IM the troll  ;D

you are probably just sore that the few times you offered anything on this thread you got shown up  :D
Would you like the links ?

keep running  ;D

You don't have anything close to a controlled experiment (but feel free to post your links again for the 90th time!). I don't care to look into it because the factuality of the moon expedition has no impact on my life (I'm sure you will not understand my pathology here). I know it is possible (rockets CAN work in space...). Whether it actually happened or not is irrelevant at this point. However, I am not insinuating that I believe for a second that it did not happen. You still don't get it (Or you do, and yes, YOU are the troll). You have one example that you cannot explain. And I'm paraphrasing here but; "I can't explain it, so the whole thing was a hoax!"

I find it funny that you never quote me. I think it's because you are afraid of my superior reasoning. I know you hate it when I call you out, because you never address my points directly. You post an unreasonable amount of video etc. to indirectly discourage the reader to actually look into it. Proving or disproving something should be as easy as providing one or two examples for each instance, not "Here's 90 pages of me rambling, then if you can't see the impossibilities- you're an idiot". I'll say it again, I thought this was the moon hoax information index. You want to know what I think is the most convincing piece of information about the moon expedition? ALL OF IT

To fall into the belief of a flat Earth is to deny YOUR OWN cognizance.

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« Reply #888 on: March 10, 2016, 09:06:27 AM »
The rest of his post was the usual psychopathic mirroring technique he & his psychopathic shill pals have been employing against me since December...

But you get the picture.

He has a WONDERFUL life & spending 16 hours of every day gatekeeping a flat earth forum IN NO WAY PLAYS A PART IN THAT LIFE.

Nuh-huh. Just no Way.

He's also designed satellite systems, seen a space shuttle launch, goes to Kyoto for the cherry blossom & has visited CERN with his distinguished physicist sons...

Though he doesn't remember much of the last part.

Oh dear; it's no good is it?

He's just a complete failure ain't he?

Still, let's see how long it takes for him to pop back up & say it's US who are the failures...

Cos he just loves his psychopathic mirroring don't he!

You reeka!

I've figured it out.

Papa isn't a person, it's an entity created by some psychology students as an experiment. Let them know that you know, that they know, that YOU know. It must have gathered enough evidence for its dissertation thus far.

Even psychology students know that it's unpossible to push on a rocket nozzle in a vacuum. Un-POSS-ible. But it's clearly a lot of fun pretending to think that, and admiring the ensuing chaos!

Nurse? Popcorn and Meds, NOW!!!

Poodle-tip, psychology-student-tards! #Outed  ;D
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« Reply #889 on: March 10, 2016, 11:55:22 AM »
^Rayzor talking to himself with sock-puppets.

^Psychosis in action.

^Nobody reads it anyway.

^lol.
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« Reply #890 on: March 10, 2016, 02:27:10 PM »
 ;D here's your quote  ;D

Any chance of a direct on topic reply from a few pages back ?
you seem to have missed it (again),
I will requote it  :)

(btw I CANNOT POST VIDEO OR IMAGES, reasons unknown but it is mentioned numerous times on this very thread, you must be confused  :()

@ the non debunking debunker.

Post your most compelling evidence that men went to the moon,

[paraphrase] "no because I'm scared and haven't really looked into it"

See above for controlled experiment,
Response ?
Didn't think so.

any response to my post a few pages back ?
No ?
Didn't think so.

yup IM the troll  ;D

you are probably just sore that the few times you offered anything on this thread you got shown up  :D
Would you like the links ?

keep running  ;D

You don't have anything close to a controlled experiment (but feel free to post your links again for the 90th time!). I don't care to look into it because the factuality of the moon expedition has no impact on my life (I'm sure you will not understand my pathology here). I know it is possible (rockets CAN work in space...). Whether it actually happened or not is irrelevant at this point. However, I am not insinuating that I believe for a second that it did not happen. You still don't get it (Or you do, and yes, YOU are the troll). You have one example that you cannot explain. And I'm paraphrasing here but; "I can't explain it, so the whole thing was a hoax!"

I find it funny that you never quote me. I think it's because you are afraid of my superior reasoning. I know you hate it when I call you out, because you never address my points directly. You post an unreasonable amount of video etc. to indirectly discourage the reader to actually look into it. Proving or disproving something should be as easy as providing one or two examples for each instance, not "Here's 90 pages of me rambling, then if you can't see the impossibilities- you're an idiot". I'll say it again, I thought this was the moon hoax information index. You want to know what I think is the most convincing piece of information about the moon expedition? ALL OF IT
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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #891 on: March 10, 2016, 02:39:33 PM »
Hey, globedebunked,
Do I look scared ?  :D

Please reply.
Thanks in advance.
;D
Here you go (again)  ;D
Running away ?
Here you go,
You must have missed it over the last four pages  ;D
 
Guys ?  ;D
Guys ?  ???
bottling it ?
Is this evasive behaviour compulsory to be a member of the moon landing congregation ?
Guys ?
 ;D
Don't do a rayzor guys,
At least attempt to counter the evidence,
If you can.
Everyone who knows people have walked on the moon?

Cool.....

Heeey have you seen the Apollo movies where sound is recorded during  excursions into the lunar vacuum ?

I heard the sound travelled inside the suits from the vacuum outside,
Or travelling through solids then travelling through the suits.
Trouble is sound is recorded in the vacuum where no physical contact occurs,
and the deafening noise of the engines never travelled through the LM onto the audio.

The plot thickens when we realise non of these phenomena happen in the vacuum around the ISS according to the audio record and eye witness testimony.

can that be true ?




Just placing this here so globedebunker can find it easier.
Quote from: GlobeDebunker link=topic=65666.msg1762244#msg1762244 date=1456429022

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The defendants (in this case) have promoted investigation!! Haha! We have asked multiple times for proofs that the moon expedition was a hoax. Not speculative jibber-jabber. 'I think this should do that, or that should be doing this, but I have nothing to confirm these suspicions'

What happens when the prosecutor doesn't have any concrete evidence of the 'crime'?
The prosecution is dismissed. If the suspect is still convicted, then the system is corrupt.

Maybe you could explain how outside sounds are recorded on the audio of Apollo movies in the vacuum of space,
We have already had the idea sound vibrated through the contact hand with tools and this is transferred onto the recording,
Bit of a stretch and has never being recorded on any post Apollo space movie.

But more than this sound is recorded travelling through the vacuum of space when no physical direct contact is evident (discounting the flimsy "drum skin" excuse),
Tiny little metallic rattles, subtle and soft noise, even crunching regolith.
The example given was slamming compartment lids on the lunar buggy with no direct physical contact with the suit,

Sound travelling through solids was offered but is obviously not relevant to the situation, and has not being recorded in a vacuum since.

Any reasoning should be universal,
We do not see this with modern ISS excursions,     
eye witness testimony confirms hand held tools transfer  no sound in the vacuum of space inside the suit,
nor has it being recorded.

how is this possible ?
How can one set of evidence contradict the other ?

Already established facts -
Lunar atmosphere is the same as that surrounding the ISS according to the defendant, a vacuum.
both suits have the same design, a layered skin filled with air,
Tools are made from the same materials,
vehicles are made with the same material,
modern audio is better quality.

Go.....
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #892 on: March 10, 2016, 02:53:26 PM »
Hey PL,
I've also noticed the weird phenomena of repeating back phrases,
Sometimes from many many pages back.
it reminds me of bots who retain new phrases and use them without being self aware
Quite creepy,
but easily beaten as they have no reasoning or complexity.
I would actually be shocked if they were human  ;D

Anyway, to them I say beep boop beep whistle  :D

Stay cool man.

Isn't it about 3am in oz ?
and you're slumped over a computer desperately trying to avoid the thread subject,
accusing others of being upset and obsessive  ;D

Oh no, look, this is how Rayzor lives:

Just for your info, life in Australia is pretty good,  top temp 34C today,  35C over the long weekend coming up,  good beer weather.   
Better than the miserable existence you must have in the freezing rain in the UK.   I wouldn't mind being in Kyoto for cherry blossom,  but no complaints otherwise.

The rest of his post was the usual psychopathic mirroring technique he & his psychopathic shill pals have been employing against me since December...

But you get the picture.

He has a WONDERFUL life & spending 16 hours of every day gatekeeping a flat earth forum IN NO WAY PLAYS A PART IN THAT LIFE.

Nuh-huh. Just no Way.

He's also designed satellite systems, seen a space shuttle launch, goes to Kyoto for the cherry blossom & has visited CERN with his distinguished physicist sons...

Though he doesn't remember much of the last part.

Oh dear; it's no good is it?

He's just a complete failure ain't he?

Still, let's see how long it takes for him to pop back up & say it's US who are the failures...

Cos he just loves his psychopathic mirroring don't he!
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #893 on: March 10, 2016, 04:00:35 PM »
Nothing you posted goes against anything we said. Do you want me to tell you what you are missing or are you going to figure it out?

I tried that a few times already,  and he goes into this weird reversal mode where he misquotes what ever you say.   I don't think there is any escape from the conspiracy mind trap.

Nope you have posting contradictory and inaccurate cobblers for a while now,
and it appears you are now in full blown avoidance,
but I understand you are now wary of direct and detailed responses because it never really works our well for you does it.

Talking of the conspiracy mind trap have you worked out what the reptilians want yet ?

your woo woo meltdown involved insisting the evidence for reptilian moon bases full of kidnapped human slaves was overwhelming    ;D

Any new developments in your woo woo research ?

Alright here is what you can't comprehend.

In the airlock, the sound goes away for a person standing at window. It's right in your quote. This is 100 percent expected.

When astronauts are working outside and bang on the outside of the ISS, the sound travels inside to where there is air. Thus sound can be heard inside the ISS. This is 100 percent expected.

And then the hammering is self explanatory.
ANNIHILATOR OF  SHIFTER

It's no slur if it's fact.

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #894 on: March 11, 2016, 12:53:30 AM »
Nothing you posted goes against anything we said. Do you want me to tell you what you are missing or are you going to figure it out?

Alright here is what you can't comprehend.

In the airlock, the sound goes away for a person standing at window. It's right in your quote. This is 100 percent expected.

When astronauts are working outside and bang on the outside of the ISS, the sound travels inside to where there is air. Thus sound can be heard inside the ISS. This is 100 percent expected.

And then the hammering is self explanatory.
   

sweet Jesus.......was that the big reveal ?

Sound travels through air and not through a vacuum ?

Your "we" have being insisting sound travels through solids in the vacuum then it can be heard once the sound reaches air,
All well and good in theory,
But now you are saying the sound disappears with the air, even when travelling through solids and back into an air filled environment where the observer is standing, and this is "to be expected" .

The small air lock is solid,
The attached air filled ISS is solid,
The distance for travel is small,
the sound was heard when air was present,
now in a vacuum no sound is heard by the observer in air looking through the window into the air lock  that is now a vacuum,

you say "this is to be expected" at the same time as we should expect sound propagation through solids and back into  air.
     
no one said sound can't travel through air in the ISS,     
It was used by the "we" as evidence sound travels through a vacuum  ;D
   
 
The issue you accidentally forgot to comprehend was where is the"drum skin" phenomena for the astronaut, who is banging on the outside of the ISS, and it is silent.

seems to me you have tied yourself up into knots,
needing to avoid some issues whilst at the same time claiming both contradictory expectations are accurate  ;D

Contradiction amongst the "we",
Strawman arguments,
and evasion.

why am I not surprised.
"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #895 on: March 11, 2016, 06:45:11 AM »
Phew....finally it appears observable controlled experiments, eye witness testimony, audio/video evidence, science and logic has triumphed.

The Apollo movies audio contains some undebunkable evidence that does indeed point to foul play,
it should be noted the morphing justification for the audio anomalies ultimately descended into anti scientific made up magical phenomena,
only supported by ad hominem and trolling tactics,
which is quite telling.

If you are reading this in the future having stumbled onto this thread,
Hello,
and you are welcome  :)

(thanks is extended to those brave souls who shared their most compelling moon landing evidence)

this is not seen as a victory for me personally,
rather this is a victory for truth and honesty.

"How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It's not easy to become sane."

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #896 on: March 11, 2016, 12:59:39 PM »
HAHAHAHAHA Yeah, feuk, you win HA! Ain't nobody ever going to read this shit, you twit!

To fall into the belief of a flat Earth is to deny YOUR OWN cognizance.

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #897 on: March 11, 2016, 01:07:55 PM »
^Pychopathic mirroring by a butthurt mirroring psychopath sock-poopet.

^feuk kicked his ass.

^Fighting the tide like autistic version of King Canute.

^lol.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #898 on: March 11, 2016, 01:37:02 PM »
Wow. The indoctrinated are unbelievable. I suppose that when you are invested in a false truth, you must defend it with all your (puny) might.

As usual though, they lost on page one. It's become embarrassing.
"Indoctrination [...] is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned".

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Re: moon hoax information index.
« Reply #899 on: March 11, 2016, 01:54:08 PM »
Hey legion.

Me & feuk alluded to it briefly, but have you noticed this weird mimicking/mirroring thing all the sock/shills been doing recently too?

They started in late December, as if it was a plan.

Feuk thinks it may be a bot thing, but I'm more on the side of it being a blackmailed slave thing...

Operation Ore netted a LOT of useful idiots, I know this for a fact.

Whatever, we both noticed it; you got an opinion?
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!