Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1830 on: March 17, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »
Its called pumping and combusting more fuel to gas than the gas itself can escape/pushed out.

There we go PRESSURE inside the combustion chamber.

According to your knowledge you could pump 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999kg/s of fuel into an egg with a 0.0001mm hole in and it would instantly free expand to vacuum with no pressure inside the egg. The vacuum of space is above 0 isnt it?

Therefore its not INFINITE. Its effectively a less dense environment we are now. Its not a damn black hole sucking all the matter out the rocket .

Such gas pushes on the internal walls of the combustion chamber. Which causes an unbalaced force due to the big hole in the end.

Gas doesn't create pressure against the vacuum. Gas creates pressure against the rocket.

Simple physics. Not hard to understand is it.

Any neutral reader will confirm you're an idiot. And an insane one at that.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 03:13:03 PM by TylerJRB »

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1831 on: March 17, 2016, 03:13:49 PM »
Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1832 on: March 17, 2016, 03:17:27 PM »
Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.

Is this turning into another "Alright so he wasn't just being annoying as hell in that bendy light thread, he's always annoying as hell." thread?
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1833 on: March 17, 2016, 03:18:20 PM »
Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.

Still here? Still saying the math is wrong? The proofs are wrong? Everyone is wrong because you have decreed so? How nice.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1834 on: March 17, 2016, 03:23:26 PM »
Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.

Is this turning into another "Alright so he wasn't just being annoying as hell in that bendy light thread, he's always annoying as hell." thread?

When was he not?

Look we could make a You Fund Me account, get enough to get him a seat on the next trip to the ISS, he would come back and say he was drugged or it was CGI. There would even be a chance he'd come up with something new and even more outlandish to deny he took the trip and was there.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1835 on: March 17, 2016, 03:49:34 PM »
Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.

What we're witnessing here is the kind of meltdown that happens when someone has his ass handed to him. 

Ouch.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1836 on: March 17, 2016, 04:03:22 PM »
Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1837 on: March 17, 2016, 04:12:48 PM »
The toys are definitely out of the pram.

I think it was when he was asked why the Joule expansion applied even though fuel was constantly being converted into exhaust gas in the combustion chamber.

He knows his argument is toast but he lacks the moral fibre to admit he made a mistake.

#Sadface
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1838 on: March 17, 2016, 04:23:06 PM »
*Yawn!*
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1839 on: March 17, 2016, 04:26:29 PM »
One of the problems autistic people have is that they cannot interpret emotions.

Which is why all you Clowns cannot understand how deeply revolted normal people reading your appalling swill will feel.

Keep it up, Clowns!

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1840 on: March 17, 2016, 04:27:43 PM »
*Yawn!*

Beddie-byes time for you Poppa! Sweet dreams. 
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1841 on: March 17, 2016, 04:30:42 PM »
One of the problems autistic people have is that they cannot interpret emotions.

Which is why all you Clowns cannot understand how deeply revolted normal people reading your appalling swill will feel.

Keep it up, Clowns!

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1842 on: March 17, 2016, 06:17:55 PM »
One of the problems autistic people have is that they cannot interpret emotions.

Which is why all you Clowns cannot understand how deeply revolted normal people reading your appalling swill will feel.

Keep it up, Clowns!

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
Autistic people also tend to repeat themselves a lot.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1843 on: March 17, 2016, 06:43:40 PM »
And I didn't even have to mention the continuum assumption...

Which is another bit of real science concerning the behaviour of gasses that helps bury your sci-fi bullshit.

Clinking-clanking billiard-ball molecules in teh combustion chamber...

LOL!!!
Huh, can you please give an overview of this argument? I'm curious what it is.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1844 on: March 18, 2016, 12:22:42 AM »
Again, I'm not reading your nonsense.

This thread is done, & you lost.

Again.

The fraud-mods can lock it anytime they like.

Because, unlike the other four threads I kicked your asses in, this one is actually called 'Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum'.

Thus, anybody searching for that term will be able to find it.

They will read it from the start, see that I am right & that you are not only wrong but increasingly demented the longer it gets.

And I didn't even have to mention the continuum assumption...

Which is another bit of real science concerning the behaviour of gasses that helps bury your sci-fi bullshit.

Clinking-clanking billiard-ball molecules in teh combustion chamber...

LOL!!!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1845 on: March 18, 2016, 01:15:51 AM »
And I didn't even have to mention the continuum assumption...

Which is another bit of real science concerning the behaviour of gasses that helps bury your sci-fi bullshit.

Clinking-clanking billiard-ball molecules in teh combustion chamber...

LOL!!!
Huh, can you please give an overview of this argument? I'm curious what it is.

The continuum assumption is a method of simplifying fluid dynamics modelling by removing the need to model each individual fluid particle separately, by make broad assumptions of the ways large groups of particles tend to behave. Papa is too stupid to realise it is a only modelling technique and does not literally mean that fluids are not comprised of particles.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1846 on: March 18, 2016, 01:18:28 AM »
Oh, on re-reading I think I may understand.  Are you saying that in reality gases are a continuum and that atomic theory is incorrect?  I'm legitimately curious as to what you mean

EDIT: Thanks mainframes, I posted this before seeing your response.  I still fail to see how that would change anything since it would still have a mass and velocity.

EDIT 2: In regards to the last argument I made removing atomic theory means premise 1 would require a slightly modified justification but I posit that the idea still holds
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1847 on: March 18, 2016, 02:11:46 AM »
^More contrived bullshit from idiots.

Back to this now:

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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skeliton112

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1848 on: March 18, 2016, 02:39:52 AM »
^More contrived bullshit from idiots.

Papa, can I ask a favour? Can you write a few sentences explaining your opinion on atomic theory/the assumption of continuity? I don't want to respond I just want to know how you connect it to rocketry.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1849 on: March 18, 2016, 03:23:05 AM »
Sorry; not interested in any more of your groupthink, doublethink, pseudo-science & astroturfing thought-police bullshit.

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1850 on: March 18, 2016, 05:22:03 AM »
Did i read it correctly?
I thought I saw Papa Legba mention "real science".
At last he has developed a sense of humour.

While anyone with any knowledge of science knows that the flow rate of a "choked Delaval nozzle" is independent of the exhaust pressure. THAT is what it means to be choked. It does rely on the properties of sonic and supersonic flow. Maybe that's what Papa finds hard to follow. Once that is grasped the rest is easy!

After all it's not rocket science! Oops, my apologies, it IS ROCKET SCIENCE.
Can anyone find Papa a good bed-time story story about rocket science - he seems to need it.
I still find it quite funny that Papa can rant and rave like this, while the real pioneers of rocket science from Tsiolkovsky and Goddard on just went and did it!

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1851 on: March 18, 2016, 05:51:28 AM »
More garbage that I refuse to sully my brain with.

You simply cannot give it up, can you?

Sorry; not interested in any more of your groupthink, doublethink, pseudo-science & astroturfing thought-police bullshit.

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1852 on: March 18, 2016, 05:59:27 AM »
Sorry; not interested in any more of your groupthink, doublethink, pseudo-science & astroturfing thought-police bullshit.

Mirroring, much?

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted

Pantomime horses don't bolt. They frolic and nicker.

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you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

If you're referring to conservation of momentum, I disagree with that statement.

The "spaceship including fuel" I would consider an isolated system. The total momentum of this system does not change - Law of Conservation of momentum.

If you're referring to the Joule experiment, I agree - the engine is an open system because fuel is constantly being converted to gas inside the combustion chamber. Hence, your Joule experiment analogy fails, since that is very definitely not an open system. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

Pressure is created via gasses, correct. That's what gases do. But if you're referring to conservation of momentum, this is not an open system: it is an isolated system.

If you're referring to the physical rocket engine design, yes it is open, i.e. the nozzle is open to the vacuum.

See how easy it is for you to pick cherries and make a rhubard crumble?

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You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

I'm agreeing nothing until you clarify as above. Are we talking about conservation of momentum (isolated system)? Or are we talking about Joule free expansion (open system)?

I know what your next flawed argument will be: how can a system be both isolated and open!?!?

From the point of view of COM, we are looking at the entire system, i.e. rocket mass and fuel mass. Why? Because we know that in the absence of any external forces acting on this system, its net momentum must remain constant, regardless of any changes that occur inside the system. Physics 101 - Law of Conservation of Momentum. We MUST look at an isolated system for the law to apply. If you just look consider the rocket alone, and not the fuel, then the law doesn't apply, because the rocket itself is NOT isolated: it is acted upon by the fuel once burnt.

From the point of view of Joule expansion, that refers to a thermally isolated system with a constant volume, and a fixed amount of gas. However, in a rocket engine this clearly does not apply, because the rocket engine itself (not the entire spaceship/fuel assembly) is an open system: energy and mass is constantly being poured in at one end (the combustion chamber), and leaving via the other end (nozzle exit). In no way, shape or form is this a direct corollary to the Joule expansion experiment.

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This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

Following my arguments above, we can see you've constructed a strawman fallacy.

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And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

See above - your argument isn't based in actual physics, it's based on a flawed interpretation, either deliberate or unintentional.

If deliberate, you're a troll who enjoys pulling people's puds.

If unintentional, then the Dunning-Kruger effect is very much in evidence.

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You cannot prevent this.

I'm happy that anyone with a reasonable grasp of fundamental physical principles will be able to follow the thread and come to their own conclusions.

In the meantime, I'm going to go away for the weekend using my GPS to get there. Before I go I'll check out some satellite weather images to see if it's going to be cloudy. I'll watch some football on satellite TV. While I'm doing all that, I'll be thinking "Wow, I must be hallucinating because Papa Legba's flawed interpretation of Newton's laws and massive cock-up with the Joule free expansion though experiment proves that rockets don't work in a vacuum."

 

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1853 on: March 18, 2016, 06:05:20 AM »
Oh, on re-reading I think I may understand.  Are you saying that in reality gases are a continuum and that atomic theory is incorrect?  I'm legitimately curious as to what you mean

EDIT: Thanks mainframes, I posted this before seeing your response.  I still fail to see how that would change anything since it would still have a mass and velocity.

EDIT 2: In regards to the last argument I made removing atomic theory means premise 1 would require a slightly modified justification but I posit that the idea still holds

Kinetic theory of gases deals with the absolute model of gases ie they are composed of particles, whilst continuum assumption simplifies the modelling otherwise the computational requirements would be enormous.

Papa likes to think that if fluid are a continuous mass and not particles then there wouldn't be any collisions and therefore conservation of momentum wouldn't need to be applied. Clearly wrong.
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1854 on: March 18, 2016, 06:14:46 AM »
Papa likes to think that if fluid are a continuous mass and not particles then there wouldn't be any collisions and therefore conservation of momentum wouldn't need to be applied. Clearly wrong.
If that is his argument then I am underwhelmed since the continuous model is still acted on by forces and acts on other objects (obviously).  I was hoping for something more complicated.

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1855 on: March 18, 2016, 06:18:32 AM »
I'm not reading your offensive anti-scientific garbage so why are you posting it?

You're mental, aren't you?

Here, dyslexia-face:

Again, I'm not reading your nonsense.

This thread is done, & you lost.

Again.

The fraud-mods can lock it anytime they like.

Because, unlike the other four threads I kicked your asses in, this one is actually called 'Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum'.

Thus, anybody searching for that term will be able to find it.

They will read it from the start, see that I am right & that you are not only wrong but increasingly demented the longer it gets.

And I didn't even have to mention the continuum assumption...

Which is another bit of real science concerning the behaviour of gasses that helps bury your sci-fi bullshit.

Clinking-clanking billiard-ball molecules in teh combustion chamber...

LOL!!!
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1856 on: March 18, 2016, 06:23:42 AM »
Lol


All the videos show rockets working in a vacuum.


Lol

We lost?

Lol

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1857 on: March 18, 2016, 06:28:42 AM »
You just don't get it do you?

I've said all I need to say here.

I have no desire to fill my brain with your mind-boggling garbage any more.

So I'm not reading it.

It's over.

Look:

I'm not reading your offensive anti-scientific garbage so why are you posting it?

You're mental, aren't you?

Here, dyslexia-face:

Again, I'm not reading your nonsense.

This thread is done, & you lost.

Again.

The fraud-mods can lock it anytime they like.

Because, unlike the other four threads I kicked your asses in, this one is actually called 'Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum'.

Thus, anybody searching for that term will be able to find it.

They will read it from the start, see that I am right & that you are not only wrong but increasingly demented the longer it gets.

And I didn't even have to mention the continuum assumption...

Which is another bit of real science concerning the behaviour of gasses that helps bury your sci-fi bullshit.

Clinking-clanking billiard-ball molecules in teh combustion chamber...

LOL!!!

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.
I got Trolled & Shilled at the CIA Troll/Shill Society and now I feel EPIC!!!

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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1858 on: March 18, 2016, 06:30:25 AM »
Lol


Papa brainless thinks he won.

Actual lol


Lol

Lol


All the videos show rockets working in a vacuum.


Lol

We lost?

Lol
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Re: Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum.
« Reply #1859 on: March 18, 2016, 07:02:11 AM »
You just don't get it do you?

I've said all I need to say here.

I have no desire to fill my brain with your mind-boggling garbage any more.

So I'm not reading it.

It's over.

Look:

I'm not reading your offensive anti-scientific garbage so why are you posting it?

You're mental, aren't you?

Here, dyslexia-face:

Again, I'm not reading your nonsense.

This thread is done, & you lost.

Again.

The fraud-mods can lock it anytime they like.

Because, unlike the other four threads I kicked your asses in, this one is actually called 'Rockets cannot work in a Vacuum'.

Thus, anybody searching for that term will be able to find it.

They will read it from the start, see that I am right & that you are not only wrong but increasingly demented the longer it gets.

And I didn't even have to mention the continuum assumption...

Which is another bit of real science concerning the behaviour of gasses that helps bury your sci-fi bullshit.

Clinking-clanking billiard-ball molecules in teh combustion chamber...

LOL!!!

Again, I am not reading your childish replies.

Despite your attempts to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted, you yourselves insisted that a rocket was an Open System.

You agreed that this Open System works by creating Pressure via Gasses.

You agreed that this Open System is Finite.

This Open, Finite System must therefore work by creating Pressure via Gasses in an Infinite Vacuum.

And there are no Laws of Physics that support this possibility.

Not One.

Any neutral reader with the slightest knowledge of physics will agree with me.

You cannot prevent this.

It has been conclusively demonstrated numerous times that a rocket DOES work in a vacuum.

Inorder for you example math to be correct it has be demonstrated in the real world that it is correct. And that is where your math fails.

Papa you can't get around that fact no matter what your Hogwarts math says.
Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime...