What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #780 on: February 09, 2016, 10:48:21 PM »
Yes, because the part where I am right makes me look like a fool.  You RE'ers never cease to amaze with your idiotic logic.

What part of "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate exoatmospheric" do you not understand?


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #781 on: February 09, 2016, 10:52:03 PM »
Rayzor is not that bad.  He has a good point every now and then.  I do not see one in this thread, but maybe he is, as you said, drunk.  I have been there and done that. 

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #782 on: February 09, 2016, 11:35:10 PM »
What part of "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate exoatmospheric" do you not understand?

Yes,  any fool knows that.   Now,  where are the majority of GPS transmitters located?  You should have more than enough information to answer correctly,  and  I know that you do like being correct.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #783 on: February 09, 2016, 11:36:11 PM »
Rayzor is not that bad.  He has a good point every now and then.  I do not see one in this thread, but maybe he is, as you said, drunk.  I have been there and done that.

Not yet,  come back later. and we'll see.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #784 on: February 09, 2016, 11:38:32 PM »
Rayzor is not that bad.  He has a good point every now and then.  I do not see one in this thread, but maybe he is, as you said, drunk.  I have been there and done that.

Not yet,  come back later. and we'll see.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #785 on: February 09, 2016, 11:43:17 PM »
Rayzor is not that bad.  He has a good point every now and then.  I do not see one in this thread, but maybe he is, as you said, drunk.  I have been there and done that.

Not yet,  come back later. and we'll see.


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Was I too obvious?   :)
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #786 on: February 10, 2016, 02:37:47 AM »
Folks, this isn't brain salad surgery.  ON a clear night from the Florida keys you can see satellites with the naked eye, just as you could see the space shuttle as it trekked across the sky from earth's perspective.  I'm not sure where all you flat earth believers live, but I can assure you based on a few basic visually provable first hand geographical locations you can see celestial activity in orbit and beyond, from our round earth.

The moon is round.  Last night it was showing a crescent on the bottom quarter from the east coast of Florida in the western sky.  You could see the crescent at the bottom being illuminated by the sun, while the sun was just beneath the horizon, while the top half although fairly darkened by the shadow, was still quite visible.  Only a round object can receive light that way. 

Moreover, while it was completely dark here, just a few short hours west in Texas it was still broad daylight at the exact same time.  If I were on a flat earth the "spot light" would be illuminating both Texas and Florida fairly equally at the same time, even if it were all the way over on the edge of the "dome" of the ceiling.  But that's not the case.

If you truly believe we are all on a flat earth and you automatically discredit the word of hundreds of people who have first hand eye witnessed the earth being round from space, and recorded photographs, you should at least be prepared to confront these astronauts first hand.  I dare any of you to engage in conversation and begin to question these people's past and their honesty. 

All the planets we see in the sky, the stars, etc are all spherical.    All our seeds to our fruits and vegetables are round, tubular or 3 dimensionally curved in some way.  A water bead is round, molecules are round.  Study condensation, it's a wonderful example of things being formed in balls because of pressure and gravity.   

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #787 on: February 10, 2016, 02:41:15 AM »
You could also claim that you see naked pixie fairies at night.  Wow, your evidence is indisputable.  ::)

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #788 on: February 10, 2016, 02:49:01 AM »
Like I said, you're left to innuendo and insults as your only defense apparently, and you have no respect for your common man, you're but a worm, a burning sensation in the nostrils of our Elohim, and you will be rebuked, no doubt.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #789 on: February 10, 2016, 02:51:04 AM »
Calling me a woman is an insult now?  Why are you such a bigot? 

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #790 on: February 10, 2016, 02:53:14 AM »
You could also claim that you see naked pixie fairies at night.  Wow, your evidence is indisputable.  ::)

If someone desires evidence for something that is overwhelming as common knowledge and tips the scale of inherent pragmatism, they've really dealt you a much more astute response than you realize.  My evidence is indisputable because YOU cannot see "pixie fairies" at night.  All you have to do go outside of whatever big city you live or are trapped in, and see these things first hand for yourself.

My evidence is available to anyone.  Pixie fairies are not.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #791 on: February 10, 2016, 02:57:01 AM »
Calling me a woman is an insult now?  Why are you such a bigot?

I didn't "call you" anything.  Please try to be more civil, I referred to a biblical expression for all men who question those of integrity. 

If a person like yourself were to publicly accuse another of high achievement, pillars of the community, say back in the 1950's, there's a good chance you might get whacked out.  Even today they might, if you stir up enough enemies.  So, unless you want your IP traced and several government officials knocking at your door today, do myself and my colleagues a favor... straighten up bud.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #792 on: February 10, 2016, 02:59:46 AM »
You could also claim that you see naked pixie fairies at night.  Wow, your evidence is indisputable.  ::)

If someone desires evidence for something that is overwhelming as common knowledge and tips the scale of inherent pragmatism, they've really dealt you a much more astute response than you realize.  My evidence is indisputable because YOU cannot see "pixie fairies" at night.  All you have to do go outside of whatever big city you live or are trapped in, and see these things first hand for yourself.

My evidence is available to anyone.  Pixie fairies are not.

You are seriously arguing with me that Pixie Fairies don't exist?  Are you drunk? 

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #793 on: February 10, 2016, 03:01:44 AM »
I didn't "call you" anything. 

you're but a worm, a burning sensation in the nostrils of our Elohim

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #794 on: February 10, 2016, 03:53:16 AM »
So Jora and the fake engineer are sticking their fingers in their ears whenever someone brings up that for gps to work, the transmitters must be transmitting their true location, and the location transmitted by the gps is a coordinate in space.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #795 on: February 10, 2016, 07:40:28 AM »
So Jora and the fake engineer are sticking their fingers in their ears whenever someone brings up that for gps to work, the transmitters must be transmitting their true location, and the location transmitted by the gps is a coordinate in space.

But, that is what we have been saying.  ???

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #796 on: February 10, 2016, 08:03:23 AM »
Yes,  any fool knows that.
Apart from the lolz that you just called yourself a fool:
We are on page 40 of this thread, where the RE'ers are arguing against the statement "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate exoatmospheric", so I guess that means you are calling RE'ers stupid?  They are arguing against something that you say 'any fool knows', so they must be ignorant.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #797 on: February 10, 2016, 08:04:09 AM »
So Jora and the fake engineer are sticking their fingers in their ears whenever someone brings up that for gps to work, the transmitters must be transmitting their true location, and the location transmitted by the gps is a coordinate in space.

But, that is what we have been saying.  ???
The location transmitted is the actual location of the transmitter.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #798 on: February 10, 2016, 04:08:40 PM »
Yes,  any fool knows that.
Apart from the lolz that you just called yourself a fool:
We are on page 40 of this thread, where the RE'ers are arguing against the statement "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate exoatmospheric", so I guess that means you are calling RE'ers stupid?  They are arguing against something that you say 'any fool knows', so they must be ignorant.

You are the only one here who doesn't know that GPS satellites are in orbit.   You comprehension of language is startlingly bereft of subtlety and nuance,  which is why I thought you might have been retarded,  but now you appear to be unfamiliar with the phrase "Any fool knows",   which colloquially means everyone, even the fools know that particular fact. 

What we do know for sure is that the majority of GPS transmitters,  are about 22,000 km away in orbit. 

Here are some actual distances to transmitters from a particular receiver.

  21,110,991.856       
  23,588,424.298   
  20,869,878.590     
  20,621,643.227     

Units are meters,    so typically the transmitters are 20,000 km away.

GPS satellites are in fact easily proven to be in orbit,  exactly where they are supposed to be. 

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #799 on: February 10, 2016, 04:11:07 PM »
So Jora and the fake engineer are sticking their fingers in their ears whenever someone brings up that for gps to work, the transmitters must be transmitting their true location, and the location transmitted by the gps is a coordinate in space.

But, that is what we have been saying.  ???
Ok then. GPS uses satellites.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #800 on: February 10, 2016, 04:37:28 PM »
Yes,  any fool knows that.
Apart from the lolz that you just called yourself a fool:
We are on page 40 of this thread, where the RE'ers are arguing against the statement "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate exoatmospheric", so I guess that means you are calling RE'ers stupid?  They are arguing against something that you say 'any fool knows', so they must be ignorant.
Can you read, because you have been told about 5 times that for a gps transmitter to work, it must be transmitting its true location, and a lot of gps transmitters say they location is in space. So a gps transmitter doesn't have to be in space, but evidence says there has to be some transmitters in space, because a lot of transmitter send out a coordinate that is exoatomspheric, and the gps wouldn't work if these transmitters were lying.
A logical way of stating this,
(For all gps transmitters their location is outside atmosphere) is false.
(There exists a gps transmitter where it's location is outside atmosphere) is true.
This is because,
If the gps works, then the transmitters must be transmitting their true location.
There exist a transmitter which transmits a location outside the atmosphere.
Gps works.
If the above three statements are correct, then (there exists a gps transmitter outside the atmosphere) logically follows.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #801 on: February 10, 2016, 04:55:14 PM »
And TheEngineer still didn't answer whether or not he believe satellites exist or not.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #802 on: February 10, 2016, 07:46:33 PM »
You give him too much credit.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #803 on: February 10, 2016, 08:08:32 PM »
 Get binoculars or a telescope and look online for the best time and location to view a satellite in your location you can even use your telescope to take pictures of the international space station. Problem solved.

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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #804 on: February 10, 2016, 08:33:04 PM »
You are the only one here who doesn't know that GPS satellites are in orbit. 
Lolz!

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  You comprehension of language is startlingly bereft of subtlety and nuance,  which is why I thought you might have been retarded,  but now you appear to be unfamiliar with the phrase "Any fool knows",   which colloquially means everyone, even the fools know that particular fact.
I know what it means.  I just think it is funny that you literally called yourself a fool.

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What we do know for sure is that the majority of GPS transmitters,  are about 22,000 km away in orbit. 
So, I think the lesson here is that, yes, I am right:  No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate in space.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #805 on: February 10, 2016, 08:35:16 PM »
Can you read, because you have been told about 5 times that for a gps transmitter to work, it must be transmitting its true location, and a lot of gps transmitters say they location is in space. So a gps transmitter doesn't have to be in space, but evidence says there has to be some transmitters in space, because a lot of transmitter send out a coordinate that is exoatomspheric, and the gps wouldn't work if these transmitters were lying.
A logical way of stating this,
(For all gps transmitters their location is outside atmosphere) is false.
(There exists a gps transmitter where it's location is outside atmosphere) is true.
This is because,
If the gps works, then the transmitters must be transmitting their true location.
There exist a transmitter which transmits a location outside the atmosphere.
Gps works.
If the above three statements are correct, then (there exists a gps transmitter outside the atmosphere) logically follows.
I guess the statement "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate in space" is too difficult for you to understand?  Would you like me to phrase it so that a 5 year old can understand?


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #806 on: February 10, 2016, 09:27:26 PM »
C'mon a simple yes or no will do. Do you believe satellites exist? If you're not going to answer that at least tell us why you won't answer.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #807 on: February 11, 2016, 12:32:23 AM »
Can you read, because you have been told about 5 times that for a gps transmitter to work, it must be transmitting its true location, and a lot of gps transmitters say they location is in space. So a gps transmitter doesn't have to be in space, but evidence says there has to be some transmitters in space, because a lot of transmitter send out a coordinate that is exoatomspheric, and the gps wouldn't work if these transmitters were lying.
A logical way of stating this,
(For all gps transmitters their location is outside atmosphere) is false.
(There exists a gps transmitter where it's location is outside atmosphere) is true.
This is because,
If the gps works, then the transmitters must be transmitting their true location.
There exist a transmitter which transmits a location outside the atmosphere.
Gps works.
If the above three statements are correct, then (there exists a gps transmitter outside the atmosphere) logically follows.
I guess the statement "No part of the locating process requires the signal to originate in space" is too difficult for you to understand?  Would you like me to phrase it so that a 5 year old can understand?
I understand the statement, but it is wrong. The part of the locating process from some gps transmitters that require them to be in space is that they transmit a coordinate that is in space.
What part of the statement "A gps transmitter must transmit its true location" don't you understand. because no one here is trying to say they all must be in space, just some of them must be in space, because some of them are transmitting a location that is in space.

Do you know what the difference between "all transmitters" and "some transmitters".
I think your too retarded to know the difference.
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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #808 on: February 11, 2016, 07:42:32 AM »
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I understand the statement, but it is wrong.

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So a gps transmitter doesn't have to be in space
Way to contradict yourself.

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I think your too retarded to know the difference.
Lolz.  The same could be said about your use of 'your' and not 'you're'.


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Re: What evidence you have that satellites don't exist?
« Reply #809 on: February 11, 2016, 09:13:12 AM »
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I understand the statement, but it is wrong.

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So a gps transmitter doesn't have to be in space
Way to contradict yourself.
Yep, I was right, you not know the difference between all transmitter and some transmitters.