Why do astronauts on board ISS float around

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #180 on: January 08, 2016, 10:38:12 AM »
Apollo was in orbit around the earth. The trans lunar injection pushed the spacecraft into an elliptical orbit that intersects the moon.
Well let's see if we can clear a few things up.
I recall Gene Cernan mention that they orbited the Earth about one and a half times, then off on a trajectory towards the moon.
Ok, I can accept this bit for the sake of it.
How fast was the orbit around the Earth for that one and a half times?...any idea?

It was a couple of hours if I recall correctly.
So what speed would you guess at? 17,000 mph for the orbit and a half before heading to the moon?

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #181 on: January 08, 2016, 12:01:35 PM »
Apollo was in orbit around the earth. The trans lunar injection pushed the spacecraft into an elliptical orbit that intersects the moon.
Well let's see if we can clear a few things up.
I recall Gene Cernan mention that they orbited the Earth about one and a half times, then off on a trajectory towards the moon.
Ok, I can accept this bit for the sake of it.
How fast was the orbit around the Earth for that one and a half times?...any idea?

It was a couple of hours if I recall correctly.
So what speed would you guess at? 17,000 mph for the orbit and a half before heading to the moon?

I'll give you an answer. The other side probably can't use Google.

This is for Apollo 11.
The TLI burn began silently. But as the acceleration load went from zero to 1.5 Gs, our cabin began to shake. The Pacific tilted beneath us. Six minutes later, the burn stopped as abruptly as it had started, and my limbs began to rise once more in weightlessness. McCandless said the TLI burn had been excellent. We were travelling at a speed of 35,570 feet per second and were passing through 177 nautical miles above Earth. "Looks like you are well on your way now," he added.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #182 on: January 08, 2016, 12:48:59 PM »
Ok thanks, Yendor.
So basically the craft was travelling at 25,000 mph in 1969. Hmmmm.

I wonder if  anyone can tell me how they managed to slingshot the craft out to take a trajectory to the moon?
I was always under the impression that a person on Earth, or a plane or helicopter when they jump up, fly or hover, will still be carried by Earth's spin.

So given that thought, it stands to reason that a rocket craft separation that has just went into a 25,000 mph orbit is going to stay in that orbit unless it hits something that can change it's trajectory.
What that something is I'd like to know.

Obviously it cannot use brakes to slow down and then  about turn to go on a moon course, can it?
I honestly can't see how it manages this, let alone manages to go 25,000 mph in 1969 but I'm not too bothered about the speed, just the miraculous trans lunar injection thing, whatever that really is.


Anyway, brakes or slingshot or whatever? Tell me, anyone.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #183 on: January 08, 2016, 12:58:21 PM »
Neither brake or slingshot.

If you accelerate in orbit your orbit increases in size. All you do is increase speed until your orbit intersects the path of the moon.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #184 on: January 08, 2016, 01:00:13 PM »
So the reason why astronauts float in space is due to centripetal/centrifugal? force or falling around the Earth at super speed?

Basically, yes. They have no net motion relative to nearby objects because they're all traveling and accelerating in the same direction at the same rate.

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Would this be right and if so, what else can make astronauts float in space?

<joke!>
Maybe you can tell me why the Apollo astronauts were floating inside their craft when out of Earth's so called orbit?
When "out of Earth's orbit" they were in orbit around the Moon. Same deal.

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Also as an added extra, how did the so called Apollo craft actually fly to the so called moon when it wasn't orbiting Earth and was on a supposed straight trajectory towards the so called moon, meaning it had no means to float and can't have used propulsion.
Who says they weren't in orbit around the Earth while en route to the Moon between trans-lunar injection and lunar orbit insertion? And it wasn't a straight trajectory; the trans-lunar injection burn put them in a highly-elliptical orbit, still with the Earth at one focus, but its apogee beyond the Moon's orbit. They used propulsion (the third stage engine was restarted) to change from the nearly circular low-earth orbit into the highly-elliptical trans-lunar one. During the "burn" (which supplies the force necessary to change the state of motion), they weren't floating. See Buzz Aldrin's quote (although not so designated) in Yendor's post above.

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Now before you go into this, " an object in motion will stay in motion until acted upon by an opposite force"
I think you mean:
Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.
Nothing about "opposite" in that. You must be conflating Newton's First Law of Motion with the Third.

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you have to tell me
I don't have to tell you anything. I will answer in the remote hope that you'll learn something useful, and for anyone else who is interested.

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how this craft floated, bearing in mind that there is no up/down/side to side in so called space and is a so called vacuum or nothingness.
What's to tell? It's following an elliptical trajectory that is designed so the craft will arrive in the vicinity of the Moon a little "ahead" of the Moon in its orbit. What do human perceptions of "up", "down", etc. have to do with this? As far as I know, they were navigating using ECI (Earth-Centered Inertial) coordinates, and didn't use those terms.

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Let's see what you can come back with before I proceed.
Well?

Meanwhile...
Apollo was in orbit around the earth. The trans lunar injection pushed the spacecraft into an elliptical orbit that intersects the moon.
Well let's see if we can clear a few things up.
I recall Gene Cernan mention that they orbited the Earth about one and a half times, then off on a trajectory towards the moon.
Ok, I can accept this bit for the sake of it.
How fast was the orbit around the Earth for that one and a half times?...any idea?

It was a couple of hours if I recall correctly.
So what speed would you guess at? 17,000 mph for the orbit and a half before heading to the moon?
17,000 mi/hr sounds about right, why?

If Yendor's quote is accurate, the TLI burn accelerated them to a bit more than twice about half again that speed.

[Edit] Oops... missed the change in units!  :-[
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #185 on: January 08, 2016, 01:06:03 PM »
Ok thanks, Yendor.
So basically the craft was travelling at 25,000 mph in 1969. Hmmmm.

I wonder if  anyone can tell me how they managed to slingshot the craft out to take a trajectory to the moon?
I was always under the impression that a person on Earth, or a plane or helicopter when they jump up, fly or hover, will still be carried by Earth's spin.

So given that thought, it stands to reason that a rocket craft separation that has just went into a 25,000 mph orbit is going to stay in that orbit unless it hits something that can change it's trajectory.
What that something is I'd like to know.

Obviously it cannot use brakes to slow down and then  about turn to go on a moon course, can it?
I honestly can't see how it manages this, let alone manages to go 25,000 mph in 1969 but I'm not too bothered about the speed, just the miraculous trans lunar injection thing, whatever that really is.


Anyway, brakes or slingshot or whatever? Tell me, anyone.

The Apollo 11 was in Low earth orbit at 17,300 miles per hour for a few orbits then while over the Pacific ocean, the Saturn V rocket's third stage had to burn without stop for almost six minutes to reach 24,500 mph — escape velocity.
That gave them the  The Apollo 11 the boost needed to push the  into a new orbit that intersected with the moon. Once nearing the moon the Saturn 5 was once again steered, this time into lunar orbit.

Neil Armstrong is quoted as saying. "Hey, Houston, the Saturn V gave us a magnificent ride." about this part of the journey.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #186 on: January 08, 2016, 01:53:45 PM »
Ok thanks, Yendor.
So basically the craft was travelling at 25,000 mph in 1969. Hmmmm.

I wonder if  anyone can tell me how they managed to slingshot the craft out to take a trajectory to the moon?
They used one of these:

S-IVB, the third stage of a Saturn-V rocket.

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I was always under the impression that a person on Earth, or a plane or helicopter when they jump up, fly or hover, will still be carried by Earth's spin.
I'm glad you understand that now!

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So given that thought, it stands to reason that a rocket craft separation that has just went into a 25,000 mph orbit is going to stay in that orbit unless it hits something that can change it's trajectory.
What that something is I'd like to know.
That's also correct, but bear in mind that the speed decreases as the distance from earth increases, as it must for a Keplerian orbit. In the case of Apollo, the things that could change its trajectory were the gravitational field of the Moon and the rocket motors it carried.

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Obviously it cannot use brakes to slow down and then  about turn to go on a moon course, can it?
Why "slow down and then about turn"? That costs energy. They accelerated from the trajectory they were already in to a new one with the desired properties. 

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I honestly can't see how it manages this, let alone manages to go 25,000 mph in 1969
The Saturn-V third stage contained a really powerful rocket engine. They could build those in 1969 despite your incredulity.

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but I'm not too bothered about the speed, just the miraculous trans lunar injection thing, whatever that really is.
Since you think they had to stop and turn around to make that happen, it's no wonder it looks like a miracle to you. Fortunately, they had people who knew how to do this.

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Anyway, brakes or slingshot or whatever? Tell me, anyone.
Neither. Acceleration using a rocket. The concept isn't difficult, as Mainframes already explained.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #187 on: January 08, 2016, 02:28:52 PM »
You people are not explaining anything like logical reality. Your making up fantasy for a very good reason. The trajectory to the so called moon from Earth at 25,000 mph is nonsensical given the crap that was told to us about this centripetal force or the magical string pulling the craft to Earth.

I'll tell you what. In the simplest terms possible, any one of you explain how the astronauts managed to snap this imaginary centripetal string to catapult towards the moon and bearing in mind that if you use a swing ball analogy of a fast ball around a pole and snapping on Earth, it takes a straight line trajectory.

Tell me how you snap your imaginary line to do the same thing.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #188 on: January 08, 2016, 03:48:57 PM »
You people are not explaining anything like logical reality. Your making up fantasy for a very good reason. The trajectory to the so called moon from Earth at 25,000 mph is nonsensical given the crap that was told to us about this centripetal force or the magical string pulling the craft to Earth.

I'll tell you what. In the simplest terms possible, any one of you explain how the astronauts managed to snap this imaginary centripetal string to catapult towards the moon and bearing in mind that if you use a swing ball analogy of a fast ball around a pole and snapping on Earth, it takes a straight line trajectory.

Tell me how you snap your imaginary line to do the same thing.
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Right in the simplest terms I can....

sceptimatic, I am sorry to inform you but your mental age is possibly quite a bit less than your physical age. You show a degree of mental deficiency that quite frankly is disturbing. If some people refer to you as a moron, its OK that just means "a person of subnormal intelligence "  some people may also call you a half-wit, idiot, imbecile, retard, simpleton or even a mong "a person suffering from Down syndrome", that's OK to.

Help is at hand.

Search google (you can ask a friend to help you) for your local Special needs school for adults, and enroll yourself for a year long intellect booster course. You will learn many new concepts in a way that is simple to learn with many visual aids.  This may even help you to seek and find employment.

In about a year, come back to this thread and we might be able to explain things again. You may then have the foundations in place to understand these simple physical concepts and even be able to read through your prior posts and understand what a dunce you once were.

Good luck,
I'm rooting for you.




Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #189 on: January 08, 2016, 08:21:47 PM »
You people are not explaining anything like logical reality. Your making up fantasy for a very good reason. The trajectory to the so called moon from Earth at 25,000 mph is nonsensical given the crap that was told to us about this centripetal force or the magical string pulling the craft to Earth.

I'll tell you what. In the simplest terms possible, any one of you explain how the astronauts managed to snap this imaginary centripetal string to catapult towards the moon and bearing in mind that if you use a swing ball analogy of a fast ball around a pole and snapping on Earth, it takes a straight line trajectory.

Tell me how you snap your imaginary line to do the same thing.
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Why not just visit a library and read up by yourself?




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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #190 on: January 09, 2016, 01:03:20 AM »
Well,   at least  Rodney isn't still building rf filters out of non conducting plastic,   or trying to travel by jumping up and down in the one spot,  or claiming that light is just really high frequency sound waves....   

Trying to understand orbital mechanics is going to be a stretch...   hang in there Rodney.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #191 on: January 09, 2016, 01:34:22 AM »
In other words, none of you can answer scepti's question.

Good to know.

Trying to understand orbital mechanics is going to be a stretch.
You cannot understand a thing that does not exist.

Now; how's things in the old mountain top chalet, Heidi?

Yodelling practice going well?

Are the goat & the yeti enjoying your 'sav blanc & good cheese' fondue?


Lastly; just look at this 'spayzze-shipp', floating around magically suspended by absolutely nothing:



LOL!!!

Scrapyard Trash to teh munn!


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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #192 on: January 09, 2016, 03:02:44 AM »
You people are not explaining anything like logical reality. Your making up fantasy for a very good reason. The trajectory to the so called moon from Earth at 25,000 mph is nonsensical given the crap that was told to us about this centripetal force or the magical string pulling the craft to Earth.

I'll tell you what. In the simplest terms possible, any one of you explain how the astronauts managed to snap this imaginary centripetal string to catapult towards the moon and bearing in mind that if you use a swing ball analogy of a fast ball around a pole and snapping on Earth, it takes a straight line trajectory.

Tell me how you snap your imaginary line to do the same thing.
U

Why not just visit a library and read up by yourself?
He likes to play games on internet forums instead. *shrug*
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2016, 03:04:48 AM »
Yep, Papa, none of them seem able to answer my question. Obviously there's a valid reason.
I'd prefer any one of them to explain it to me as if I was a child and at least by doing that we can determine how it all  worked.


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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #194 on: January 09, 2016, 03:06:28 AM »
You people are not explaining anything like logical reality. Your making up fantasy for a very good reason. The trajectory to the so called moon from Earth at 25,000 mph is nonsensical given the crap that was told to us about this centripetal force or the magical string pulling the craft to Earth.

I'll tell you what. In the simplest terms possible, any one of you explain how the astronauts managed to snap this imaginary centripetal string to catapult towards the moon and bearing in mind that if you use a swing ball analogy of a fast ball around a pole and snapping on Earth, it takes a straight line trajectory.

Tell me how you snap your imaginary line to do the same thing.
U

Why not just visit a library and read up by yourself?
He likes to play games on internet forums instead. *shrug*
Crabby 10 words has spoken.


How about you tell me by using a very simple analogy as to how they managed it, crabby.  :P

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #195 on: January 09, 2016, 03:16:50 AM »
Lastly; just look at this 'spayzze-shipp', floating around magically suspended by absolutely nothing:



Suspended by nothing - other than the gantry that it is clamped to...?

Trip to the optician perhaps in order?
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #196 on: January 09, 2016, 03:40:56 AM »
In other words, none of you can answer scepti's question.

Not really,   no-one cares anymore.   

Now; how's things in the old mountain top chalet, Heidi?

Yodelling practice going well?

Are the goat & the yeti enjoying your 'sav blanc & good cheese' fondue?


The goat is missing you, and  wants you to come back for another visit.    It was blushing when I asked why... 

Other than that,  things are going well.   

 Mainframes, is telling me you've gone blind,   I told him you've always had trouble seeing and understanding things.

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Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #197 on: January 09, 2016, 04:12:58 AM »
Lastly; just look at this 'spayzze-shipp', floating around magically suspended by absolutely nothing:



Suspended by nothing - other than the gantry that it is clamped to...?

Trip to the optician perhaps in order?
Clamped to the gantry by WHAT, Walter Mitty?

It's you who needs the optician!

There does seem to be one cable, attached to very little, connecting it to a flimsy overhead beam trolley.

Which doesn't seem the most secure system for a multi-billion dollar shpayze-shipp to my eyes...

But the most prominent attachment points visible in the photo are the 3 cables at the base.

These appear to be holding it DOWN, not UP.

Seems your shpayze-ship is a balloon, Walt!


Not really,   no-one cares anymore.
Yet again, a creepy Clown mirrors my vocabulary.

LOL!!!

Mainframes, is telling me you've gone blind,   I told him you've always had trouble seeing and understanding things.
You were both wrong, Laurel & Hardy.

As usual.

You Clown Derfers are genuinely incapable of discerning between Words & Reality, aren't you?

Lastly:

The goat is missing you, and  wants you to come back for another visit.    It was blushing when I asked why...
Lulz!!!

Even your goat is cuckolding you!

I'll have your yeti next, mountain top fantasist Heidi...

Nice forum signature btw; where'd you nick it?

Oh, that's right - off me.

Jealousy gets you nowhere, mountain top fondue-queen Heidi...
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #198 on: January 09, 2016, 04:25:21 AM »

I'll have your yeti next, mountain top fantasist Heidi...


The yeti is excited,  fresh meat and all.     BTW.    Who is this Heidi  is she a friend of yours?   Or are you hallucinating again.   

Take the red pill.   All will be revealed.


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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #199 on: January 09, 2016, 04:30:28 AM »
Ok you free thinking sensible people out there; as you can see, my queries cannot be rationally answered about this moon trajectory, because, as Rayzor mentioned; they just don't care to answer due to lack of interest.
That's fair enough for me. In other words, if I don't allow them to explain it all in their ridiculous space  language then they won't play.

This mean they can't play, because to explain it in simple terms would to explain it in simple terms, which means that they make themselves look less than convincing in trying to show the magic of this amazing space rocket trajectory change.

Let me give you all a helping hand into what I'm talking about so you get the real insight.

When we argue about their spinning ball Earth and tell them that helicopters hovering above Earth's floor, do not notice any Earth rotation under them.
We get told that the reason for this is that the helicopter ios rotating at the same speed as the Earth and when it hovers, the atmosphere still carries it with the Earth at the same speed so we notice  nothing.

Of course we know that's preposterous but they have a silly argument for that by telling you that you can jump up in a plane or train whilst it's moving and you don't go flying off. Crazy I know but there you go.

Ok let them have that.
What about their rocket in orbit as Gene Cernan mentioned. It orbited about one and a half times around the Earth at 25,000 mph and then sling shots out towards the moon.

The problem is, I'm told it's not a sling shot or a snapped centripetal imaginary string or a braking system to deflect it towards the moon.

The trouble is they won't actually tell me in simple terms just what it is.
You see, this rocket is apparently spinning around the Earth in space. Like a super fast supposed satellite.

How does the rocket  go to the moon?

An object in motion (rocket) will stay in motion until acted upon by an external force. It could also be deflected by an external force but stay in motion. You know, like a space snooker white ball hitting a colour.
That could deflect the space rocket to the moon, eh?...maybe not because deflecting is a bad idea for destroying stuff as we seen in the film, gravity.


So what's to be done to get to this moon?
Apparently what happens (if they explained to me correctly) is that the rocket actually keeps orbiting the Earth and gets wider and wider with this orbit. A sort of - imagine drawing a ball and drawing a circle around it, then spiral outward so you have lot's and lot's of rings around the ball until you reach another ball (moon) and then spiral around that but only a singular circle as you orbit this.

Imagine doing this all the way to the moon at supposedly 240,000 miles away, just orbiting wider and wider and yet never falling back to Earth but always managing to spiral outward and then slowing down when you reach the moon, somehow.

Maybe that's not exactly how it works. I can't be certain if this is what the space scientists proposed happened because there doesn't seem to be any on here that can explain it by using a very simple analogy for how it happened.


Can anyone remember seeing the NASA Earth/moon trajectory  PENIS diagram that Papa Legba put up.
It was really funny at the time but it showed how they supposedly went to the moon.
What it didn't show was what was explained to me.
It showed an orbit and then a straight trajectory to the moon and around the moon , then back in a straight trajectory to Earth.

If anyone can find this diagram I'd appreciate it, because this diagram indicates a sling shot to the moon and the experts on here have already told us that it wasn't a sling shot.

Confusing isn't it?

Obviously it's not confusing to the experts on here who will no doubt call me a retard and  what not, as if that actually answers the questions.  ;D



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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #200 on: January 09, 2016, 04:33:26 AM »
Sceptimatic - the swing ball is an analogy. Learn what that means. There is no literal string.

The string represents the force of gravity ( or acceleration due to gravity if we want to be exact). If there are any other forces acting on the spacecraft then the net force will determine the acceleration and in what direction. Simple case of of vector mathematics.

So when the rocket engine is fired an additional force is imparted on the rocket (in addition to gravity). This additional force in the case of TLI was used to accelerate the orbital speed creating an elliptical orbit that had its apogee intersecting the moons orbit.
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #201 on: January 09, 2016, 04:39:17 AM »
That isn't an answer.

It sounds a bit like one.

But it isn't.

Now; try again:

Ok you free thinking sensible people out there; as you can see, my queries cannot be rationally answered about this moon trajectory, because, as Rayzor mentioned; they just don't care to answer due to lack of interest.
That's fair enough for me. In other words, if I don't allow them to explain it all in their ridiculous space  language then they won't play.

This mean they can't play, because to explain it in simple terms would to explain it in simple terms, which means that they make themselves look less than convincing in trying to show the magic of this amazing space rocket trajectory change.

Let me give you all a helping hand into what I'm talking about so you get the real insight.

When we argue about their spinning ball Earth and tell them that helicopters hovering above Earth's floor, do not notice any Earth rotation under them.
We get told that the reason for this is that the helicopter ios rotating at the same speed as the Earth and when it hovers, the atmosphere still carries it with the Earth at the same speed so we notice  nothing.

Of course we know that's preposterous but they have a silly argument for that by telling you that you can jump up in a plane or train whilst it's moving and you don't go flying off. Crazy I know but there you go.

Ok let them have that.
What about their rocket in orbit as Gene Cernan mentioned. It orbited about one and a half times around the Earth at 25,000 mph and then sling shots out towards the moon.

The problem is, I'm told it's not a sling shot or a snapped centripetal imaginary string or a braking system to deflect it towards the moon.

The trouble is they won't actually tell me in simple terms just what it is.
You see, this rocket is apparently spinning around the Earth in space. Like a super fast supposed satellite.

How does the rocket  go to the moon?

An object in motion (rocket) will stay in motion until acted upon by an external force. It could also be deflected by an external force but stay in motion. You know, like a space snooker white ball hitting a colour.
That could deflect the space rocket to the moon, eh?...maybe not because deflecting is a bad idea for destroying stuff as we seen in the film, gravity.


So what's to be done to get to this moon?
Apparently what happens (if they explained to me correctly) is that the rocket actually keeps orbiting the Earth and gets wider and wider with this orbit. A sort of - imagine drawing a ball and drawing a circle around it, then spiral outward so you have lot's and lot's of rings around the ball until you reach another ball (moon) and then spiral around that but only a singular circle as you orbit this.

Imagine doing this all the way to the moon at supposedly 240,000 miles away, just orbiting wider and wider and yet never falling back to Earth but always managing to spiral outward and then slowing down when you reach the moon, somehow.

Maybe that's not exactly how it works. I can't be certain if this is what the space scientists proposed happened because there doesn't seem to be any on here that can explain it by using a very simple analogy for how it happened.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=1746834;topic=65151.180#

Can anyone remember seeing the NASA Earth/moon trajectory  PENIS diagram that Papa Legba put up.
It was really funny at the time but it showed how they supposedly went to the moon.
What it didn't show was what was explained to me.
It showed an orbit and then a straight trajectory to the moon and around the moon , then back in a straight trajectory to Earth.

If anyone can find this diagram I'd appreciate it, because this diagram indicates a sling shot to the moon and the experts on here have already told us that it wasn't a sling shot.

Confusing isn't it?

Obviously it's not confusing to the experts on here who will no doubt call me a retard and  what not, as if that actually answers the questions.  ;D

Also, show me where this trash-pile is 'clamped to a gantry':



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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #202 on: January 09, 2016, 04:39:38 AM »
As I said,  nobody cares,   I've tried,  any number of people I've see try and you still just don't get it,  not even the simplest logic.     

Papa Legba,  is a moron,  and a clown, he pretends not to understand,  but if he were to admit it,  he would have to stop trolling,  so he is trapped in an endless loop.

He trolls everyone with insults like spazefanatasist,  and  hypnotoad,  just to get a reaction...  if that doesn't work he makes some stupid claim as trolling bait.

It's fun for a while.   Just don't take it seriously..    He's a fruitcake.

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #203 on: January 09, 2016, 04:42:26 AM »
Sceptimatic - the swing ball is an analogy. Learn what that means. There is no literal string.

The string represents the force of gravity ( or acceleration due to gravity if we want to be exact). If there are any other forces acting on the spacecraft then the net force will determine the acceleration and in what direction. Simple case of of vector mathematics.

So when the rocket engine is fired an additional force is imparted on the rocket (in addition to gravity). This additional force in the case of TLI was used to accelerate the orbital speed creating an elliptical orbit that had its apogee intersecting the moons orbit.
It makes no sense except to fellow magic circle card holders.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #204 on: January 09, 2016, 04:44:30 AM »
As I said,  nobody cares,   I've tried,  any number of people I've see try and you still just don't get it,  not even the simplest logic.     

Papa Legba,  is a moron,  and a clown, he pretends not to understand,  but if he were to admit it,  he would have to stop trolling,  so he is trapped in an endless loop.

He trolls everyone with insults like spazefanatasist,  and  hypnotoad,  just to get a reaction...  if that doesn't work he makes some stupid claim as trolling bait.

It's fun for a while.   Just don't take it seriously..    He's a fruitcake.
You reap what you sow you silly Billy.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #205 on: January 09, 2016, 04:47:12 AM »
I'd still like to know how the moon astronauts floated inside their space ship on the way to the moon. How did they float and for what reason?

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #206 on: January 09, 2016, 04:55:30 AM »
I got caught lying about visiting CERN & am very butthurt indeed. I copied my forum signature off Legba because I am obsessed with him & I am being cuckolded by a goat...

HELP ME!
No.


Now; please show me how this rickety shpayze-balloon is 'clamped to a gantry':



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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #207 on: January 09, 2016, 05:03:00 AM »
As I said,  nobody cares,   I've tried,  any number of people I've see try and you still just don't get it,  not even the simplest logic.     

Papa Legba,  is a moron,  and a clown, he pretends not to understand,  but if he were to admit it,  he would have to stop trolling,  so he is trapped in an endless loop.

He trolls everyone with insults like spazefanatasist,  and  hypnotoad,  just to get a reaction...  if that doesn't work he makes some stupid claim as trolling bait.

It's fun for a while.   Just don't take it seriously..    He's a fruitcake.
You reap what you sow you silly Billy.

Nicely highlighted, thanks.

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I got caught lying about visiting CERN & am very butthurt indeed. I copied my forum signature off Legba because I am obsessed with him & I am being cuckolded by a goat...
HELP ME!

Hehe,   it took a while,  but you missed by a mile.   And yes I was on campus at CERN for a while.   Did you want more pictures?

I'm sorry it didn't work out with you and the goat,   and maybe you will be more to the Yeti's taste..   (are Yeti's carniverous? )   let me know when you find out..

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #208 on: January 09, 2016, 05:14:16 AM »
LOL!!!

Rayzor calls me a troll, but his last 5 posts on this thread are zero-content derailing.

Now; mainframes says this rocket is clamped to a gantry.

I see no evidence of this.

Who is right?

Lastly; just look at this 'spayzze-shipp', floating around magically suspended by absolutely nothing:



Suspended by nothing - other than the gantry that it is clamped to...?

Trip to the optician perhaps in order?

Come on, shpayze-tards; point out them 'clamps' to me!
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Re: Why do astronauts on board ISS float around
« Reply #209 on: January 09, 2016, 05:33:22 AM »
LOL!!!

Rayzor calls me a troll, but his last 5 posts on this thread are zero-content derailing.

Now; mainframes says this rocket is clamped to a gantry.

I see no evidence of this.

Who is right?

Lastly; just look at this 'spayzze-shipp', floating around magically suspended by absolutely nothing:



Suspended by nothing - other than the gantry that it is clamped to...?

Trip to the optician perhaps in order?

Come on, shpayze-tards; point out them 'clamps' to me!
That rocket isn't clamped. There's no way in hell they would mess about with something like this if it was a real supposed space rocket part. Frigging mental lol.