If all of the satellites are only a NASA conspiracy

Quote from: chtwrone on September 15, 2015, 01:54:56 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on September 15, 2015, 12:44:40 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 15, 2015, 12:08:14 AM

Quote from: Swiftly Tilting Planet on September 14, 2015, 06:34:40 PM

I actually believe that if I could take a Flat Earther up in a rocket,

Is this what they call "blind faith"?

That's exactly what it is and something these people tend to use as if it proves anything. It's like it's almost as if they actually own and run the particular things being talked about. 

Whatever evidence is provided to support the round earth model, you are obliged to reject it outright. To do anything else would be an admission that your flat theory is flawed and obviously you would never do this.

Accordingly, you are completely ignorant of even basic principles which govern how this planet works.  EVERYTHING that is connected to the round earth model is therefore part of a worldwide conspiracy.  There must be a lot of people, and I mean a lot, that must know the truth about the conspiracy. Funny how not one of these people have ever blown the whistle on the round earth hoax.

Therefore the only conclusion that can drawn from this, is that -

                       THE WORLD IS A SPHERICAL PLANET ORBITING THE SUN. THE MOON IS ORBITING THE EARTH - FACT.

Wow another one of your riveting, edjemecational posts!
Old mate said "I actually believe that if I could take a FEer up in a rocket"
That's kiddy talk. Can you take us up in a rocket?
Tell us again why you can not. I'm all ears.

See, the rocket thing was a hypothetical argument. Though heck, maybe I am Elon Musk or Branson, and zI *do* have a rocket! I'm not and I don't, the closest I get is that I was friends in college with Chris Lexicon, who is a co-founder of Planetary Resources, but I don't have ready access to a rocket, that wasn't ny point, ny point was that I think that, hypothetically, if I did, and if I could take a die-hard Flat Rather  don't think that it would matter - at least not with some of you - because once you get to the point where you start believing that the sky is a hologram, you get into schizophrenic levels of parinoia, and nothing you see, hear, touch, or taste could be trusted to be real.

But hey, with space tourism going the way it is, in 10 or 20 years you *will* be able tinfoil up in a rocket.

Of course, my friend Chris Lewicki could be *in* or the conspiracy now too!! I mean, he'd kinda have ro be at this point, if there really was a massive cover-up by "THEM". Which brings me to a point was just made by here by someone else....if there was a cover-up, it would have to be the most MASSIVE cover-up ever. You would be talking every member of every government on Earth (even the ones that hate each other and are trying to discredit each other) and it would have to include every military on Earth, and every space program, public and private, every astronaut and taikonaut and cosmonaut, and all those private launch companies and space tourism companies, and all those companies building and launching satellites,  and all those scientists building and launching space probes. And pretty much every scientist ever, astronomers, geologists, geographers, seismologists, etc. And well, and every GPS device manufacturer. And the phone and internet back on companies would have to be in on it. And every airline and most of the pilots. And a lot of private pilots too. And a lot of ice shipping companies plus a lot of private sailors. Oh, and don't forgot all those scientists *living* and working in Antarctica and at the South Pole. And the tourism companies that take people to Antarctica. Well, and we can't forget every media outlet ever. And I could go on, but pretty much a sizable percentage of humanity itself would be in this conspiracy and cover-up. And that would be so un-manageable that it would make to fictional cover-up in the Stargate TV shows look believable by comparison.

In fact, we are talking about an impossible cover-up.

And, yeah, I can't take you up in a rocket, but I am a part-time educational outreach volunteer at a local planetarium, and mainly I run the public telescope on public viewing nights, and anyone can come up and see stars and galaxies and planets and their moons...you can see Saturn's rings, and see how they change over time. You can see nebula and star clusters. You can see comets when they pass through the Solar System and this weekend their will be a big event around Friday's Lunar Eclipse (just a there was for the Transit of Venus a few years ago.)

Of course...maybe the telescopes are all triggers to beam CGI into you eyes!! (Even to private telescopes which *anyone* can buy and take apart!)

Maybe *I* am in on the conspiracy too...

Maybe *I* am a shill!!

(And if I am, somebody seriously owns me some f**king serious back pay, because I live in a dump...)

Quote from: tappet on September 15, 2015, 02:45:16 AM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 15, 2015, 01:54:56 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on September 15, 2015, 12:44:40 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 15, 2015, 12:08:14 AM

Quote from: Swiftly Tilting Planet on September 14, 2015, 06:34:40 PM

I actually believe that if I could take a Flat Earther up in a rocket,

Is this what they call "blind faith"?

That's exactly what it is and something these people tend to use as if it proves anything. It's like it's almost as if they actually own and run the particular things being talked about. 

Whatever evidence is provided to support the round earth model, you are obliged to reject it outright. To do anything else would be an admission that your flat theory is flawed and obviously you would never do this.

Accordingly, you are completely ignorant of even basic principles which govern how this planet works.  EVERYTHING that is connected to the round earth model is therefore part of a worldwide conspiracy.  There must be a lot of people, and I mean a lot, that must know the truth about the conspiracy. Funny how not one of these people have ever blown the whistle on the round earth hoax.

Therefore the only conclusion that can drawn from this, is that -

                       THE WORLD IS A SPHERICAL PLANET ORBITING THE SUN. THE MOON IS ORBITING THE EARTH - FACT.

Wow another one of your riveting, edjemecational posts!
Old mate said "I actually believe that if I could take a FEer up in a rocket"
That's kiddy talk. Can you take us up in a rocket?
Tell us again why you can not. I'm all ears.

See, the rocket thing was a hypothetical argument. Though heck, maybe I am Elon Musk or Branson, and zI *do* have a rocket! I'm not and I don't, the closest I get is that I was friends in college with Chris Lexicon, who is a co-founder of Planetary Resources, but I don't have ready access to a rocket, that wasn't ny point, ny point was that I think that, hypothetically, if I did, and if I could take a die-hard Flat Rather  don't think that it would matter - at least not with some of you - because once you get to the point where you start believing that the sky is a hologram, you get into schizophrenic levels of parinoia, and nothing you see, hear, touch, or taste could be trusted to be real.

But hey, with space tourism going the way it is, in 10 or 20 years you *will* be able tinfoil up in a rocket.

Of course, my friend Chris Lewicki could be *in* or the conspiracy now too!! I mean, he'd kinda have ro be at this point, if there really was a massive cover-up by "THEM". Which brings me to a point was just made by here by someone else....if there was a cover-up, it would have to be the most MASSIVE cover-up ever. You would be talking every member of every government on Earth (even the ones that hate each other and are trying to discredit each other) and it would have to include every military on Earth, and every space program, public and private, every astronaut and taikonaut and cosmonaut, and all those private launch companies and space tourism companies, and all those companies building and launching satellites,  and all those scientists building and launching space probes. And pretty much every scientist ever, astronomers, geologists, geographers, seismologists, etc. And well, and every GPS device manufacturer. And the phone and internet back on companies would have to be in on it. And every airline and most of the pilots. And a lot of private pilots too. And a lot of ice shipping companies plus a lot of private sailors. Oh, and don't forgot all those scientists *living* and working in Antarctica and at the South Pole. And the tourism companies that take people to Antarctica. Well, and we can't forget every media outlet ever. And I could go on, but pretty much a sizable percentage of humanity itself would be in this conspiracy and cover-up. And that would be so un-manageable that it would make to fictional cover-up in the Stargate TV shows look believable by comparison.

In fact, we are talking about an impossible cover-up.

And, yeah, I can't take you up in a rocket, but I am a part-time educational outreach volunteer at a local planetarium, and mainly I run the public telescope on public viewing nights, and anyone can come up and see stars and galaxies and planets and their moons...you can see Saturn's rings, and see how they change over time. You can see nebula and star clusters. You can see comets when they pass through the Solar System and this weekend their will be a big event around Friday's Lunar Eclipse (just a there was for the Transit of Venus a few years ago.)

Of course...maybe the telescopes are all triggers to beam CGI into you eyes!! (Even to private telescopes which *anyone* can buy and take apart!)

Maybe *I* am in on the conspiracy too...

Maybe *I* am a shill!!

(And if I am, somebody seriously owns me some f**king serious back pay, because I live in a dump...)

Or there are a lot of stupid people. In which group do you belong, stupid or not stupid?
Have a good think before you answer.

Or there are a lot of stupid people. In which group do you belong, stupid or not stupid?
Have a good think before you answer.

Dude, I have a MENSA card and started college when I was 15, I was an astronomy major, physics minor and an honors student and at one time I even had a 4.0 GPA (until I met a girl and blew off classes for sex) and I *still* consider myself a dumb as a sack of hammers. Basically, I am just smart enough to know how stupid I am, especially compared to REALLY smart people.

But, on the upside, I'm not the idiot who thinks that the Earth is flat.

I mean, even 5th graders know the Earth is round. (I know, my stepson is in 5th grade this year.)

So, if you think that the Earth is flat, you are *literally* dumber than a 5th grader.

(Funny how you Flatheads all resort to insults when you can't win an argument with, you know, facts and logic and reason.)

Quote from: tappet on September 15, 2015, 11:08:26 PM

Or there are a lot of stupid people. In which group do you belong, stupid or not stupid?
Have a good think before you answer.

Dude, I have a MENSA card and started college when I was 15, I was an astronomy major, physics minor and an honors student and at one time I even had a 4.0 GPA (until I met a girl and blew off classes for sex) and I *still* consider myself a dumb as a sack of hammers. Basically, I am just smart enough to know how stupid I am, especially compared to REALLY smart people.

But, on the upside, I'm not the idiot who thinks that the Earth is flat.

I mean, even 5th graders know the Earth is round. (I know, my stepson is in 5th grade this year.)

So, if you think that the Earth is flat, you are *literally* dumber than a 5th grader.

(Funny how you Flatheads all resort to insults when you can't win an argument with, you know, facts and logic and reason.)

Believing you are smarter than dumb flatties. Do you think these flatties were born like this and have never changed believing in flat earth since day one?
Or do you think its possible they were educated just like you, believed the earth was round just like you, criticize others that see things differently, just like you do?
Then one day they smell some shit, but you don't. To you it all smells like roses, and who knows, shit may always smell like a rose to you.

Quote from: Swiftly Tilting Planet on September 17, 2015, 12:06:30 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 15, 2015, 11:08:26 PM

Or there are a lot of stupid people. In which group do you belong, stupid or not stupid?
Have a good think before you answer.

Dude, I have a MENSA card and started college when I was 15, I was an astronomy major, physics minor and an honors student and at one time I even had a 4.0 GPA (until I met a girl and blew off classes for sex) and I *still* consider myself a dumb as a sack of hammers. Basically, I am just smart enough to know how stupid I am, especially compared to REALLY smart people.

But, on the upside, I'm not the idiot who thinks that the Earth is flat.

I mean, even 5th graders know the Earth is round. (I know, my stepson is in 5th grade this year.)

So, if you think that the Earth is flat, you are *literally* dumber than a 5th grader.

(Funny how you Flatheads all resort to insults when you can't win an argument with, you know, facts and logic and reason.)

Believing you are smarter than dumb flatties. Do you think these flatties were born like this and have never changed believing in flat earth since day one?
Or do you think its possible they were educated just like you, believed the earth was round just like you, criticize others that see things differently, just like you do?
Then one day they smell some shit, but you don't. To you it all smells like roses, and who knows, shit may always smell like a rose to you.

The phenomenon of the 24 hour Antarctic summer sun is established, verified and well documented FACT. It has been witnessed by thousands of people who have either worked in or visited Antarctica during its summer. There has not been one, not one person who has visited Antarctica during its summer, that has called into question the 24 hour summer sun and exposed this as a round earth deception.

This one feature of the spherical earth model completely debunks the flat earth model.

It's patently obvious what is causing this smell of shit that you speak of, and it certainly ISN'T the round earth model.

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Quote from: chtwrone on September 17, 2015, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

Quote from: Swiftly Tilting Planet on September 17, 2015, 12:06:30 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 15, 2015, 11:08:26 PM

Or there are a lot of stupid people. In which group do you belong, stupid or not stupid?
Have a good think before you answer.

Dude, I have a MENSA card and started college when I was 15, I was an astronomy major, physics minor and an honors student and at one time I even had a 4.0 GPA (until I met a girl and blew off classes for sex) and I *still* consider myself a dumb as a sack of hammers. Basically, I am just smart enough to know how stupid I am, especially compared to REALLY smart people.

But, on the upside, I'm not the idiot who thinks that the Earth is flat.

I mean, even 5th graders know the Earth is round. (I know, my stepson is in 5th grade this year.)

So, if you think that the Earth is flat, you are *literally* dumber than a 5th grader.

(Funny how you Flatheads all resort to insults when you can't win an argument with, you know, facts and logic and reason.)

Believing you are smarter than dumb flatties. Do you think these flatties were born like this and have never changed believing in flat earth since day one?
Or do you think its possible they were educated just like you, believed the earth was round just like you, criticize others that see things differently, just like you do?
Then one day they smell some shit, but you don't. To you it all smells like roses, and who knows, shit may always smell like a rose to you.

You know, I came into my study of Flat Earth theories trying to keep and open mind, despite the mountains of evidence (and I mean "mountains of evidence" both figuratively and literally)...mountains of evidence to the contrary. But I really wanted to know *why* people thought tho s way - maybe it was genuinely smart people who were genuinely misguided. And maybe I could come to some sort of sympathetic understanding of why they believed this obviously untrue thing. And, as improbable as I thought, maybe they *were* right after all?  (And hell, *if* thet were right, I personally think it would be the most amazing fucking thing ever! I would want to know what is *under* the Earth, what was really beyong the ice wall and the dome! I woild want to know who constructed it, and why z- it would be the greatest and coolest mystery ever! Maybe we really live in some Truman Show or The Signal or The Starlost type of habitat designed to fool us into thinking we were on a real planet. And hell maybe UFOs are real too, and think that would *ROCK*!!)

But all I found were a lot of people who, just like Creationists, base their whole beliefs about EVERYTHING on a book written by a bunch of wandering desert savages who 's entire cosmology was based on the idea the their entire cornor of the world in the Middle East *was* the entire world, and was the centre of everything, and thay history only goes back a few tens of generations to when, coimcidentally, they reckoned that their own tribe was founded, and who believed that the Sun and Moon *literally* rise and set just for them.

And I found people who pick and choose from science and fact when they think that they can be reinterpreted to fit their preconceived world view, and who refuse to really adress information that contradicts that worldview.  And who often wont even venture outside to witness things like eclipses which would call their worldview into question, or who can't be bothered to even simply visit a planetarium, borrow a telescope, or book a trip to Antarctica, to test their worldview. Or they think of convenient outs for why they can't even look at the sjky, like "dangerous Moon rays". And who insult anyone who argues to the contrary "shills".

Flat Earthers don't *want* to know - because they think that they already do know.

And that, to me, reeks of some serious shit.

You know, I came into my study of Flat Earth theories trying to keep and open mind, despite the mountains of evidence (and I mean "mountains of evidence" both figuratively and literally)...mountains of evidence to the contrary. But I really wanted to know *why* people thought tho s way - maybe it was genuinely smart people who were genuinely misguided. And maybe I could come to some sort of sympathetic understanding of why they believed this obviously untrue thing.

  You came to this forum for truth, but you are looking in the wrong direction. The answers you are looking for are really in plain sight, but you are ignoring them. Even now while you read these words you are reading them within the wrong frame of mind. You were given a MENSA card, maybe you need to rethink this paradigm.

Quote from: Swiftly Tilting Planet on September 17, 2015, 03:08:27 PM

You know, I came into my study of Flat Earth theories trying to keep and open mind, despite the mountains of evidence (and I mean "mountains of evidence" both figuratively and literally)...mountains of evidence to the contrary. But I really wanted to know *why* people thought tho s way - maybe it was genuinely smart people who were genuinely misguided. And maybe I could come to some sort of sympathetic understanding of why they believed this obviously untrue thing.

  You came to this forum for truth, but you are looking in the wrong direction. The answers you are looking for are really in plain sight, but you are ignoring them. Even now while you read these words you are reading them within the wrong frame of mind. You were given a MENSA card, maybe you need to rethink this paradigm.

You've got no answers ! (Only hypothesis, and a good lack of scientific credibility...)

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 01:33:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 17, 2015, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

So perfectly smooth around this ball and yet its spinning at 1000 mph in the middle and 0 mph on top and bottom. How does gravity keep these clouds and oceans so perfectly smooth and round with such speed variation. Magical smelly stuff me thinks.

Quote from: XaeXae on September 17, 2015, 02:38:02 PM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 01:33:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 17, 2015, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

So perfectly smooth around this ball and yet its spinning at 1000 mph in the middle and 0 mph on top and bottom. How does gravity keep these clouds and oceans so perfectly smooth and round with such speed variation. Magical smelly stuff me thinks.

Ohh please, that argument has been debunked way too many times for someone to bring it up again. Do a search.

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 11:28:19 PM

Quote from: XaeXae on September 17, 2015, 02:38:02 PM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 01:33:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 17, 2015, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

So perfectly smooth around this ball and yet its spinning at 1000 mph in the middle and 0 mph on top and bottom. How does gravity keep these clouds and oceans so perfectly smooth and round with such speed variation. Magical smelly stuff me thinks.

Ohh please, that argument has been debunked way too many times for someone to bring it up again. Do a search.

Where is the best place to start the search?

Quote from: Master_Evar on September 17, 2015, 11:32:11 PM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 11:28:19 PM

Quote from: XaeXae on September 17, 2015, 02:38:02 PM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 01:33:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 17, 2015, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

So perfectly smooth around this ball and yet its spinning at 1000 mph in the middle and 0 mph on top and bottom. How does gravity keep these clouds and oceans so perfectly smooth and round with such speed variation. Magical smelly stuff me thinks.

Ohh please, that argument has been debunked way too many times for someone to bring it up again. Do a search.

Where is the best place to start the search?

The search tab maybe?

Could not find any debunking?

Could not find any debunking?

Here's an example:

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 12, 2015, 05:16:20 PM

If the earth is orbitting the sun at thousands of miles per hour...Why do we not all fly off into space?

The force of gravity in your hypothetical round earth, is only 9.8 meters per second. Yet...the earth orbits the sun at thousands of meters per second!

That would be like trying to hold unto a merry go round, going thousands of miles per hour, with only a fridge magnet!

Explain yourselves, 'round earthers'.

Ugh... Your posts have so many inaccuracies that it will take me a long post to point them all out (please don't take offense, I don't mean to be rude or anything). Anyway, I will give you the "short" answer (and please reply if you disagree with it):

We can't feel the centrifugal "force" (you are right that it is not actually a force in its own, it's merely the "reaction" to the centripetal force, which is the force that prevents the object for flying away. Example: when swinging a rock with a rope, the rope exerts the centripetal force, and the centrifugal "force" is what seems to make the rock "want" to fling away, although it's actually the inertia. The use of the word is actually a mere convention, just like "g-force" is merely acceleration divided by the acceleration of gravity, just to put into perspective the force of that acceleration) because... well... the centripetal force is being applied on our entire bodies, every single molecule of them. I have to ask you, what keeps the earth revolving and not flying away? "The sun's gravitational attraction", you will say. So, gravity is the centripetal force here. Remember, gravity is applied on EVERY BODY WITH A NON ZERO MASS. What does that mean? The exact same force that is applied to the earth to prevent it from flying away is applied on us to prevent us from flying away. If the earth were to suddenly disappear, we would keep revolving around the sun. It's like being inside a free-falling, totally opaque elevator. Say you were born in one. Would you have any way of knowing that you are actually accelerating? No. It would be identical to being in 0 gravity, because the elevator below you (and above you) would be accelerating due to gravity exactly as much as you would be accelerating due to gravity. The sun accelerates the earth exactly as much as it accelerates you. Thus, you don't feel anything.

Now for the other question: why don't we fly off of the surface of earth because of its spin/why don't the oceans migrate to the equator? The Earth at the equator is spinning at about 460 meters per second at the equator. Its radius is about 6,400,000 meters. The formula for the centripetal acceleration (and, therefore, for the centrifugal acceleration) is a=v^2/r, where a is the acceleration, v is the velocity, and r is the radius. Do the math. Actually, no, I already did them for you. The acceleration is about 0.033m/s^2. The acceleration of earth is about 9.8m/s^2. Don't worry, you're not going to fly off into space any time soon

I hope you realized your mistake. After all, we learn from them

Quote from: XaeXae on September 17, 2015, 02:38:02 PM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 01:33:45 PM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 17, 2015, 04:33:51 AM

Quote from: tappet on September 17, 2015, 03:15:07 AM

I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

So perfectly smooth around this ball and yet its spinning at 1000 mph in the middle and 0 mph on top and bottom. How does gravity keep these clouds and oceans so perfectly smooth and round with such speed variation. Magical smelly stuff me thinks.

I see what is going on here.

Just because YOU don't understand how 'things' work, you immediately fall back to the 'must be BS' position - so typical of flat earthers.   

And this is the primary reason why flat earthers stay ignorant, because they never want to delve into the subject any more deeply, as they are already in denial mode and NEVER contemplate any research to educate themselves.

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I don't know what shape the earth is and I make no claim to.
Flat or round both smell of shit.

There are actually 2 things that smell of shit.

The first thing is the flat earth model, and the second is the stuff that constantly streams out of your mouth.

So you don't think the earth is a spherical planet?  State one thing that leads you to this conclusion?

Look at a picture of your round ball earth, look at the curve all the clouds are smooth on top. The ocean is at the same height as the top of the clouds and they all join together to make a nice smooth round ball. Smells like shit to me, but no doubt tasty to you.

Do you know at what height are the clouds ? 0.7 to 15 kilometers. Now consider a 12730 kilometers-wide ball, and try to imagine if we could ever notice a 15 kilometer difference...

If you like numbers, consider that, if you took a 1000x1000 pixel round Earth picture, the highest clouds on the border of the picture would be 1 pixel further from the center than the sea. Smells logical to me, but I don't think you will understand why.

So perfectly smooth around this ball and yet its spinning at 1000 mph in the middle and 0 mph on top and bottom. How does gravity keep these clouds and oceans so perfectly smooth and round with such speed variation. Magical smelly stuff me thinks.

I see what is going on here.

Just because YOU don't understand how 'things' work, you immediately fall back to the 'must be BS' position - so typical of flat earthers.   

And this is the primary reason why flat earthers stay ignorant, because they never want to delve into the subject any more deeply, as they are already in denial mode and NEVER contemplate any research to educate themselves.

Stop insulting FEers you dummy. I do not claim to be a FEer You show me a picture of coloured ball and I will tell you as I see it.
I do not need a head full of your shit to see what it is.

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Could not find any debunking?

Here's an example:

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If the earth is orbitting the sun at thousands of miles per hour...Why do we not all fly off into space?

The force of gravity in your hypothetical round earth, is only 9.8 meters per second. Yet...the earth orbits the sun at thousands of meters per second!

That would be like trying to hold unto a merry go round, going thousands of miles per hour, with only a fridge magnet!

Explain yourselves, 'round earthers'.

Ugh... Your posts have so many inaccuracies that it will take me a long post to point them all out (please don't take offense, I don't mean to be rude or anything). Anyway, I will give you the "short" answer (and please reply if you disagree with it):

We can't feel the centrifugal "force" (you are right that it is not actually a force in its own, it's merely the "reaction" to the centripetal force, which is the force that prevents the object for flying away. Example: when swinging a rock with a rope, the rope exerts the centripetal force, and the centrifugal "force" is what seems to make the rock "want" to fling away, although it's actually the inertia. The use of the word is actually a mere convention, just like "g-force" is merely acceleration divided by the acceleration of gravity, just to put into perspective the force of that acceleration) because... well... the centripetal force is being applied on our entire bodies, every single molecule of them. I have to ask you, what keeps the earth revolving and not flying away? "The sun's gravitational attraction", you will say. So, gravity is the centripetal force here. Remember, gravity is applied on EVERY BODY WITH A NON ZERO MASS. What does that mean? The exact same force that is applied to the earth to prevent it from flying away is applied on us to prevent us from flying away. If the earth were to suddenly disappear, we would keep revolving around the sun. It's like being inside a free-falling, totally opaque elevator. Say you were born in one. Would you have any way of knowing that you are actually accelerating? No. It would be identical to being in 0 gravity, because the elevator below you (and above you) would be accelerating due to gravity exactly as much as you would be accelerating due to gravity. The sun accelerates the earth exactly as much as it accelerates you. Thus, you don't feel anything.

Now for the other question: why don't we fly off of the surface of earth because of its spin/why don't the oceans migrate to the equator? The Earth at the equator is spinning at about 460 meters per second at the equator. Its radius is about 6,400,000 meters. The formula for the centripetal acceleration (and, therefore, for the centrifugal acceleration) is a=v^2/r, where a is the acceleration, v is the velocity, and r is the radius. Do the math. Actually, no, I already did them for you. The acceleration is about 0.033m/s^2. The acceleration of earth is about 9.8m/s^2. Don't worry, you're not going to fly off into space any time soon

I hope you realized your mistake. After all, we learn from them

Nothing was debunked, that was just gibberish.

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Quote from: tappet on September 18, 2015, 01:48:45 AM

Could not find any debunking?

Here's an example:

Quote from: Definitely Not Official on July 30, 2015, 08:55:06 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 12, 2015, 05:16:20 PM

If the earth is orbitting the sun at thousands of miles per hour...Why do we not all fly off into space?

The force of gravity in your hypothetical round earth, is only 9.8 meters per second. Yet...the earth orbits the sun at thousands of meters per second!

That would be like trying to hold unto a merry go round, going thousands of miles per hour, with only a fridge magnet!

Explain yourselves, 'round earthers'.

Ugh... Your posts have so many inaccuracies that it will take me a long post to point them all out (please don't take offense, I don't mean to be rude or anything). Anyway, I will give you the "short" answer (and please reply if you disagree with it):

We can't feel the centrifugal "force" (you are right that it is not actually a force in its own, it's merely the "reaction" to the centripetal force, which is the force that prevents the object for flying away. Example: when swinging a rock with a rope, the rope exerts the centripetal force, and the centrifugal "force" is what seems to make the rock "want" to fling away, although it's actually the inertia. The use of the word is actually a mere convention, just like "g-force" is merely acceleration divided by the acceleration of gravity, just to put into perspective the force of that acceleration) because... well... the centripetal force is being applied on our entire bodies, every single molecule of them. I have to ask you, what keeps the earth revolving and not flying away? "The sun's gravitational attraction", you will say. So, gravity is the centripetal force here. Remember, gravity is applied on EVERY BODY WITH A NON ZERO MASS. What does that mean? The exact same force that is applied to the earth to prevent it from flying away is applied on us to prevent us from flying away. If the earth were to suddenly disappear, we would keep revolving around the sun. It's like being inside a free-falling, totally opaque elevator. Say you were born in one. Would you have any way of knowing that you are actually accelerating? No. It would be identical to being in 0 gravity, because the elevator below you (and above you) would be accelerating due to gravity exactly as much as you would be accelerating due to gravity. The sun accelerates the earth exactly as much as it accelerates you. Thus, you don't feel anything.

Now for the other question: why don't we fly off of the surface of earth because of its spin/why don't the oceans migrate to the equator? The Earth at the equator is spinning at about 460 meters per second at the equator. Its radius is about 6,400,000 meters. The formula for the centripetal acceleration (and, therefore, for the centrifugal acceleration) is a=v^2/r, where a is the acceleration, v is the velocity, and r is the radius. Do the math. Actually, no, I already did them for you. The acceleration is about 0.033m/s^2. The acceleration of earth is about 9.8m/s^2. Don't worry, you're not going to fly off into space any time soon

I hope you realized your mistake. After all, we learn from them

Nothing was debunked, that was just gibberish.

The bold part. Quoted here:

Now for the other question: why don't we fly off of the surface of earth because of its spin/why don't the oceans migrate to the equator? The Earth at the equator is spinning at about 460 meters per second at the equator. Its radius is about 6,400,000 meters. The formula for the centripetal acceleration (and, therefore, for the centrifugal acceleration) is a=v^2/r, where a is the acceleration, v is the velocity, and r is the radius. Do the math. Actually, no, I already did them for you. The acceleration is about 0.033m/s^2. The acceleration of earth is about 9.8m/s^2. Don't worry, you're not going to fly off into space any time soon

Read that and if you have a complaint tell us properly what it is and back yourself up.

Er, my question was why is the picture of the ball so perfectly curved as though it is in a glass bubble with everything from land, water to clouds smooth at the same level whilst spinning at a 1000 mph in the middle and zero mph on top?
I am not interested in things flying off.

Er, my question was why is the picture of the ball so perfectly curved as though it is in a glass bubble with everything from land, water to clouds smooth at the same level whilst spinning at a 1000 mph in the middle and zero mph on top?
I am not interested in things flying off.

It is not perfect. But it looks perfect because of the perspective. Earth is slightly squished, but you won't notice it with your bare eyes on a picture of the full globe.

Er, my question was why is the picture of the ball so perfectly curved as though it is in a glass bubble with everything from land, water to clouds smooth at the same level whilst spinning at a 1000 mph in the middle and zero mph on top?
I am not interested in things flying off.

I think the problem is that you just don't grok how HUGE the sphere of the Earth is, compared to (relatively tiny, by comparison) features like mountains and clouds.

Looking at a "Blue Marble" type picture, it's like looking an orange a few feet in front of you face, and the atmosphere and mountains are all basically in a layer as thing as the skin of that orange. The orange skin *looks* smooth, because of the scale that you are looking at it.

BUT, look at the same orange skin with a jeweler's loop, or a microscope, and then you will start to see the imperfections on the surface that look like mountain peaks and valleys. Look at a piece of the skin with an electron microscope, and you will see even more detail.

And and for that picture of the Earth from space...*if* NASA (and every other space agency, both public and private) were going to go out of their way and spend billions of dollars a year to "fake" a globe Earth, don't you think that they would "manufacture" a picture of a globe Earth that looks "wrong" to so many people like you? No, I think they would go out of their way to make sure that *everything* was as perfect as it could look.

But look, here's the question you should ask yourself: What is your motivation for reading all this stuff and arguing about it? Is it that you really want to learn the truth - be it a flat Earth or a round one, whatever the ultimate truth is...? Or do you just want to get into an argument about who's preconceived views are right? Because if you really want to learn, there *are* answers, you just have to actually take the time and bother to listen and try to understand them. And THEN if they are wrong, and you can prove it, well,  you are right, and we don't live on a ball.

You have a think about this.
Oranges do not spin at 1000 mph and have clouds and water and shit hanging off them.
The pictures are shit, and this no up and down in space but Australia is always down under is a joke!!!
And as to why I am here? I have said it before, to point out bull shitters.

You have a think about this.
Oranges do not spin at 1000 mph and have clouds and water and shit hanging off them.
The pictures are shit, and this no up and down in space but Australia is always down under is a joke!!!

If you spin an orange, won't every bacteria fly off it since they are so lightweight?

Do you see the flaw in your logic?

You have a think about this.
Oranges do not spin at 1000 mph and have clouds and water and shit hanging off them.
The pictures are shit, and this no up and down in space but Australia is always down under is a joke!!!
And as to why I am here? I have said it before, to point out bull shitters.

Most of the satellites are in equatorial orbit. There are also "up" and "down" for these satellites, most commonly the same as ours, but sometimes images appear "tilted", because the satellite himself is in fact tilted.

And clouds and water don't "hang", they are keeped on Earth by gravity.

You have a think about this.
Oranges do not spin at 1000 mph and have clouds and water and shit hanging off them.
The pictures are shit, and this no up and down in space but Australia is always down under is a joke!!!
And as to why I am here? I have said it before, to point out bull shitters.

Don't measure rotation rate in miles per hour.  It's misleading and it doesn't produce the same results if scaled down.  Earth rotates 15 degrees per hour, think of it that way.

If I had an orange floating in space it would be possible for it to hold onto a very thin atmosphere although the clouds would not be visible because of probelem a with scale.  Things work differently at different scales, that's why crashing toy cars together and crashing real cars together produces different results.

You have a think about this.
Oranges do not spin at 1000 mph and have clouds and water and shit hanging off them.
The pictures are shit, and this no up and down in space but Australia is always down under is a joke!!!
And as to why I am here? I have said it before, to point out bull shitters.

tappet constantly points at himself in the mirror.