What we expect to see on a round Earth

Quote from: V on August 17, 2015, 09:56:44 AM

Hillary Clinton's e-mails? The Benghazi coverup? NSA spying on Americans (and foreigners?) These are all active conspiracies. But there is no conspiracy to hide the flatness of the Earth, because the Earth is round.

Mikeman reckons your making up a bunch of crap, I think I agree with him.

Actually that guy did state some serious problems that may or may not be conspiracy related but certainly need to be dealt with.  That's not nonsense at all.

Quote from: tappet on August 18, 2015, 03:00:20 AM

Quote from: V on August 17, 2015, 09:56:44 AM

Hillary Clinton's e-mails? The Benghazi coverup? NSA spying on Americans (and foreigners?) These are all active conspiracies. But there is no conspiracy to hide the flatness of the Earth, because the Earth is round.

Mikeman reckons your making up a bunch of crap, I think I agree with him.

Actually that guy did state some serious problems that may or may not be conspiracy related but certainly need to be dealt with.  That's not nonsense at all.

Time for you to stop using the conspiracy theorist card on others. Its quite evident REers here believe in conspiracies and you are a weasel trying to skim around the edge. Let it go you are looking silly.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 18, 2015, 09:29:01 AM

Quote from: tappet on August 18, 2015, 03:00:20 AM

Quote from: V on August 17, 2015, 09:56:44 AM

Hillary Clinton's e-mails? The Benghazi coverup? NSA spying on Americans (and foreigners?) These are all active conspiracies. But there is no conspiracy to hide the flatness of the Earth, because the Earth is round.

Mikeman reckons your making up a bunch of crap, I think I agree with him.

Actually that guy did state some serious problems that may or may not be conspiracy related but certainly need to be dealt with.  That's not nonsense at all.

Time for you to stop using the conspiracy theorist card on others. Its quite evident REers here believe in conspiracies and you are a weasel trying to skim around the edge. Let it go you are looking silly.

Of course REers believe in conspiracies, but conspiracies are not everywhere. Once confronted with the facts some conspiracy theories like the Flat Earth "theory" break down. There are other conspiracies that are actually real, like the ones that I mentioned.

If you ever feel stupid just remember that there are still people who think the earth is flat.

Quote from: tappet on August 18, 2015, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 18, 2015, 09:29:01 AM

Quote from: tappet on August 18, 2015, 03:00:20 AM

Quote from: V on August 17, 2015, 09:56:44 AM

Hillary Clinton's e-mails? The Benghazi coverup? NSA spying on Americans (and foreigners?) These are all active conspiracies. But there is no conspiracy to hide the flatness of the Earth, because the Earth is round.

Mikeman reckons your making up a bunch of crap, I think I agree with him.

Actually that guy did state some serious problems that may or may not be conspiracy related but certainly need to be dealt with.  That's not nonsense at all.

Time for you to stop using the conspiracy theorist card on others. Its quite evident REers here believe in conspiracies and you are a weasel trying to skim around the edge. Let it go you are looking silly.

Of course REers believe in conspiracies, but conspiracies are not everywhere. Once confronted with the facts some conspiracy theories like the Flat Earth "theory" break down. There are other conspiracies that are actually real, like the ones that I mentioned.

What an amazing talent you have there, being able to tell a real conspiracy from a fake.
I actually do not believe in conspiracies but I guess you being a REer have no choice seeing as conspiracies are generally made up by REers and it is obviously RE mind set.

What an amazing talent you have there, being able to tell a real conspiracy from a fake.
I actually do not believe in conspiracies but I guess you being a REer have no choice seeing as conspiracies are generally made up by REers and it is obviously RE mind set.

But he just said he believed in conspiracies, and I believe in potential conspiracies.  We just accept that things can happen without conspiracies and we we use logic to determine which ones to believe in.

Quote from: V on August 18, 2015, 02:06:59 PM

Quote from: tappet on August 18, 2015, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 18, 2015, 09:29:01 AM

Quote from: tappet on August 18, 2015, 03:00:20 AM

Quote from: V on August 17, 2015, 09:56:44 AM

Hillary Clinton's e-mails? The Benghazi coverup? NSA spying on Americans (and foreigners?) These are all active conspiracies. But there is no conspiracy to hide the flatness of the Earth, because the Earth is round.

Mikeman reckons your making up a bunch of crap, I think I agree with him.

Actually that guy did state some serious problems that may or may not be conspiracy related but certainly need to be dealt with.  That's not nonsense at all.

Time for you to stop using the conspiracy theorist card on others. Its quite evident REers here believe in conspiracies and you are a weasel trying to skim around the edge. Let it go you are looking silly.

Of course REers believe in conspiracies, but conspiracies are not everywhere. Once confronted with the facts some conspiracy theories like the Flat Earth "theory" break down. There are other conspiracies that are actually real, like the ones that I mentioned.

What an amazing talent you have there, being able to tell a real conspiracy from a fake.
I actually do not believe in conspiracies but I guess you being a REer have no choice seeing as conspiracies are generally made up by REers and it is obviously RE mind set.

You do not believe in conspiracies? Great, I guess you're admitting that this picture is real, since there's no global conspiracy.

Checkmate.

Checkmate, really?
I did not say there was a conspiracy, for me personally its a case of I really do not know what is going on. I come to this forum to question things that seem odd, and for this (questioning things) I am called a conspiracy theorist yet you openly admit to being the conspiracy theorist,.
This  odd behaviour from you is a good example.

If there is no conspiracy, then how is that photo fake? If there is no conspiracy, then that photograph is genuine and the earth is round.

If there is no conspiracy, then how is that photo fake? If there is no conspiracy, then that photograph is genuine and the earth is round.

Did I say that photo was fake? This is more odd behaviour from you.
You post a random picture of what is supposed to be the earth and ask "how is that photo fake"?.
Is this a trick question?

So you said that you're not sure if there's conspiracy

I did not say there was a conspiracy, for me personally its a case of I really do not know what is going on.

But you implicitly said that there has to be a conspiracy

From what you have just said it is crystal clear to the reader that you have been to room 101 and believe there are no conspiracies.
Nutter!!!!!!!!!

Looks like someone needs trolling 101 session.

Anyway, these are the two possibilities about the shape of the earth:
From FE perspective: the earth is flat, the photo of the round earth is fake, there is a global conspiracy going on.
From RE perspective: the earth is round, the photo of the round earth is not fake, there is no global conspiracy about the shape od the earth.

The question V asked is not "how is that photo fake" (and the answer would be easy, some guy with photoshop, then post it on the internet). Instead, this is the question:

I did not say there was a conspiracy

If you don't believe that there is a global conspiracy, then the photo isn't fake, therefore the earth is round. How could it be otherwise?

I see, if a photo of an object is a fake  that equates to a conspiracy.
i.e. An altered photo of say a sheep, maybe 6 legs instead of 4. That means it is a conspiracy.
Got it!
Fact is REers try repeatedly to ridicule the FEer with the conspiracy card when it is the REer who really is the conspiracy king.
Except for Mikeman who is just a weasel skimming the edge.

I see, if a photo of an object is a fake  that equates to a conspiracy.
i.e. An altered photo of say a sheep, maybe 6 legs instead of 4. That means it is a conspiracy.
Got it!
Fact is REers try repeatedly to ridicule the FEer with the conspiracy card when it is the REer who really is the conspiracy king.
Except for Mikeman who is just a weasel skimming the edge.

1. Do you believe that the pictures of the round earth is fake?

2. If yes, who faked them?

3. If an agency connected to the government, or the government itself faked it, then they are conspiring which turns this into a conspiracy.

I see, if a photo of an object is a fake  that equates to a conspiracy.
i.e. An altered photo of say a sheep, maybe 6 legs instead of 4. That means it is a conspiracy.
Got it!
Fact is REers try repeatedly to ridicule the FEer with the conspiracy card when it is the REer who really is the conspiracy king.
Except for Mikeman who is just a weasel skimming the edge.

if you alter the photo that way, convince people that all sheeps have 6 legs with the photo, team up with governments to make sure that everybody believes that sheeps got 6 legs, hide all sheeps so that no one knows the truth, then you are making profit by selling 6 legged sheep action figure, then yeah, it is a conspiracy.

if you edit the photo for personal satisfaction, show your friends your 6 legged sheep picture just for fun, then no, it is not a conspiracy. no round earther implies that simply editing a picture makes it a conspiracy. do you have some kind of brain abnormality or something, making it so difficult for you to understand this kinda things?

Quote from: tappet on August 20, 2015, 02:05:50 PM

I see, if a photo of an object is a fake  that equates to a conspiracy.
i.e. An altered photo of say a sheep, maybe 6 legs instead of 4. That means it is a conspiracy.
Got it!
Fact is REers try repeatedly to ridicule the FEer with the conspiracy card when it is the REer who really is the conspiracy king.
Except for Mikeman who is just a weasel skimming the edge.

if you alter the photo that way, convince people that all sheeps have 6 legs with the photo, team up with governments to make sure that everybody believes that sheeps got 6 legs, hide all sheeps so that no one knows the truth, then you are making profit by selling 6 legged sheep action figure, then yeah, it is a conspiracy.

if you edit the photo for personal satisfaction, show your friends your 6 legged sheep picture just for fun, then no, it is not a conspiracy. no round earther implies that simply editing a picture makes it a conspiracy. do you have some kind of brain abnormality or something, making it so difficult for you to understand this kinda things?

You're seriously asking if flat earthers have a brain abnormality? These guys have no brain at all. I just can't imagine how anyone could be this gullible/retarded.

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

This question applies to you too.  What would you expect to see on a round Earth that we do not see in reality?

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

This question applies to you too.  What would you expect to see on a round Earth that we do not see in reality?

I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS YOU IDIOT BUT I WILL NOT ANSWER IT AGAIN CAUSE YOUR LAZY!!!!

I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS YOU IDIOT BUT I WILL NOT ANSWER IT AGAIN CAUSE YOUR LAZY!!!!

Oh yeah, I forgot.  My bad

Feel free to give another answer.  Your first one was debunked and by not posting anything else you agree that we see and experience exactly what we expect on a round Earth, meaning that round Earth is a flawless model that perfectly explains all observations and is therefore correct.

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

dude, don't you think this is getting old already? if you want to keep on trolling at least put a little effort into it, don't just spam with the same thing over and over again.

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

dude, don't you think this is getting old already? if you want to keep on trolling at least put a little effort into it, don't just spam with the same thing over and over again.

He recently came off of a ban for spamming, and now he is at it again.  Some people never learn.  How long should I ban him for this time? 

Quote from: hello_there on August 23, 2015, 04:28:49 PM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

dude, don't you think this is getting old already? if you want to keep on trolling at least put a little effort into it, don't just spam with the same thing over and over again.

He recently came off of a ban for spamming, and now he is at it again.  Some people never learn.  How long should I ban him for this time?

nice jroa. think about it this way, he's technically a round earther, so you might wanna give him a long one

edit:
apparently my reply was a bit too late, but 1 month is a long time indeed

The Truth Seeker will now be enjoying a month off to think about what appropriate forum conduct is.

I must be striking a real weakness of FER here because the flat earthers don't seem to want to get anywhere near this thread.  Can you seriously not think of any way that round Earth conflicts with observations?  I know I will not be able to get you closed minded people to admit it, but you are esencially saying that round Earth works and explains all observations while at the same time not requiring an impossible conspiracy for which there is no evidence.

Many flat earthers have said that flat Earth theory is incomplete and is yet to explain many details like sunsets.  Since round Earth works so much better then flat Earth it is far more likely to be correct and therefore should be accepted.  That being said, why does flat Earth theory still exist?

Bump.

So round Earth is a flawless model according to flat earthers.  Good to know.  Why do you believe in flat Earth if round Earth is flawless and flat Earth can't even explain sunsets?

I must be striking a real weakness of FER here because the flat earthers don't seem to want to get anywhere near this thread.  Can you seriously not think of any way that round Earth conflicts with observations?  I know I will not be able to get you closed minded people to admit it, but you are esencially saying that round Earth works and explains all observations while at the same time not requiring an impossible conspiracy for which there is no evidence.

Many flat earthers have said that flat Earth theory is incomplete and is yet to explain many details like sunsets.  Since round Earth works so much better then flat Earth it is far more likely to be correct and therefore should be accepted.  That being said, why does flat Earth theory still exist?

Flat Earther logic :

RE - Oh, something proves flat earth theory is false

FE - Let's hypothetize a new strange law that explains it and admit this law as a fact

RE - Something seems to prove this new law can't be true

FE- No problem, no serious FE admitted it

Other Flat Earther logic :

RE - Oh, something proves flat earth theory is false

FE - It's a NASA conspiracy, nothing else

With these logics, no FEer will ever admit FET is false...

In this thread: a bunch of retards.   

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 23, 2015, 03:12:05 PM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

This question applies to you too.  What would you expect to see on a round Earth that we do not see in reality?

I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS YOU IDIOT BUT I WILL NOT ANSWER IT AGAIN CAUSE YOUR LAZY!!!!

The round earth model accounts for EVERYTHING that we see/experience on a daily basis.

1/  The sun rising in the east and setting in the west.
2/  The seasons
3/  The spinning of weather systems in a direction dependant on which hemisphere you're in
4/  Solar and lunar eclipses
5/  Ocean tides
6/  Periods of 24 hour light/darkness in the Arctic/Antarctic
7/  Phases of the moon
8/  Observed curvature of the earth form space
9/  etc


The flat earth model can account for NONE of the above, absolutely NONE.

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 03:16:51 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 23, 2015, 03:12:05 PM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

This question applies to you too.  What would you expect to see on a round Earth that we do not see in reality?

I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS YOU IDIOT BUT I WILL NOT ANSWER IT AGAIN CAUSE YOUR LAZY!!!!

The round earth model accounts for EVERYTHING that we see/experience on a daily basis.

1/  The sun rising in the east and setting in the west.
2/  The seasons
3/  The spinning of weather systems in a direction dependant on which hemisphere you're in
4/  Solar and lunar eclipses
5/  Ocean tides
6/  Periods of 24 hour light/darkness in the Arctic/Antarctic
7/  Phases of the moon
8/  Observed curvature of the earth form space
9/  etc


The flat earth model can account for NONE of the above, absolutely NONE.

The flat earth model can account for 2 , 5 and 8

Quote from: chtwrone on September 11, 2015, 01:10:41 AM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 03:16:51 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 23, 2015, 03:12:05 PM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

This question applies to you too.  What would you expect to see on a round Earth that we do not see in reality?

I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS YOU IDIOT BUT I WILL NOT ANSWER IT AGAIN CAUSE YOUR LAZY!!!!

The round earth model accounts for EVERYTHING that we see/experience on a daily basis.

1/  The sun rising in the east and setting in the west.
2/  The seasons
3/  The spinning of weather systems in a direction dependant on which hemisphere you're in
4/  Solar and lunar eclipses
5/  Ocean tides
6/  Periods of 24 hour light/darkness in the Arctic/Antarctic
7/  Phases of the moon
8/  Observed curvature of the earth form space
9/  etc


The flat earth model can account for NONE of the above, absolutely NONE.

The flat earth model can account for 2 , 5 and 8

Does it though? Does it explain tides? Or observed curvature?

Quote from: XaeXae on September 11, 2015, 03:37:20 AM

Quote from: chtwrone on September 11, 2015, 01:10:41 AM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 03:16:51 PM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on August 23, 2015, 03:12:05 PM

Quote from: The Truth Seeker on August 23, 2015, 12:10:20 PM

earth is concave so your all wrong... period...

This question applies to you too.  What would you expect to see on a round Earth that we do not see in reality?

I ALREADY ANSWERED THIS YOU IDIOT BUT I WILL NOT ANSWER IT AGAIN CAUSE YOUR LAZY!!!!

The round earth model accounts for EVERYTHING that we see/experience on a daily basis.

1/  The sun rising in the east and setting in the west.
2/  The seasons
3/  The spinning of weather systems in a direction dependant on which hemisphere you're in
4/  Solar and lunar eclipses
5/  Ocean tides
6/  Periods of 24 hour light/darkness in the Arctic/Antarctic
7/  Phases of the moon
8/  Observed curvature of the earth form space
9/  etc


The flat earth model can account for NONE of the above, absolutely NONE.

The flat earth model can account for 2 , 4, 5 and 8

Does it though? Does it explain tides? Or observed curvature?

Seasons = Sun that orbits at different distances of equator.

Eclipses = An unknown planet that orbits lower than the Sun and the Moon.

Tides = Massive moon attraction (if gravitation is considered to be true).

24 hour sun = Perfectly explainable in Arctic, and nobody can reach Antarctic (lol).

Phases of the moon = Same explanation than for round earth

Observed curvature = Conspiracy.

However the two others can not be explained by FET.