What Is The Worst Flat Earth Fallacy ?

I would nominate the Flat Earth fallacy of the horizon as Number 1 on my list.

According to Flat Earth the horizon is not distinct and fades away in a blur at an infinite distance. This would have to be IF the earth was flat.

According to Round Earth the horizon is a distinct line where earth and sky meet. This is most apparent on flat land and especially at sea. The distance to the horizon depends on the height of the observer and increases as the height of the observer increases. There are formulas for simple calculations of the distant to the horizon.

Any other nominations  ? Or can you top this one ? There are many others.

I nominate sunsets.

What about the consistent denial of any photographs and footage (including live streams) showing the curvature of the Earth?

I would say that the biggest flat earth fallacy is that they are "free thinkers".

Going around and denying everything you deem "mainstream" is far from free thinking.

I nominate Universal Acceleration

That the FES is fair dinkum.

The South Pole  is all you need to disprove flat earth.    That,  and maybe GPS,  ISS live feed,  pictures from geostationary weather satellites.   If that doesn't do it for you, then spend 5 minutes with a surveyor on a geodetic survey.

The South Pole  is all you need to disprove flat earth.   

Just use your south pointing compass.

Quote from: Rayzor on July 18, 2015, 12:04:10 AM

The South Pole  is all you need to disprove flat earth.   

Just use your south pointing compass.

Keep going till you find the spot where the South Celestial Pole is Directly Overhead and you are there.  Compasses wont' help.

I would say that the biggest flat earth fallacy is that they are "free thinkers".

Going around and denying everything you deem "mainstream" is far from free thinking.

What so you can count to four it don't mean you know anything about free thinking.  What's most important about free thinking is critical thinking, and that's what us flat earthers do.  We think critically.  Take your globe and go back to your mainstream home.

Most flat earthers indicate that you aren't a free thinker unless you beleive in flat earth. You have to subscribe to the flat earth dogma to be considered a free thinker. Its hypocritical.

So you are only a free thinker if you believe that Earth is flat?  Yep, that fallacy is pretty bad.

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

Quote from: Doglover on July 18, 2015, 11:33:26 AM

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

Quote from: V on July 18, 2015, 11:56:57 AM

Quote from: Doglover on July 18, 2015, 11:33:26 AM

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

I've yet to see anyone do a proper experiment with a laser,  ( or a video camera)   there's more to it than shining a laser across a bay, or zooming in on something in the distance,  you need to understand how to set up control points, and do it properly,  so. why don't they ever do it right?  SImple if they did it properly would show the earths curvature.  They don't want the truth.   Spend some time with a surveyor doing a geodetic survey and see how they do C+R corrections.   

If you have any better proof that that idiot Jeranism,  let's see it.

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

And yet simple things like sunsets prove that Earth is round.

I would say that the biggest flat earth fallacy is that they are "free thinkers".

Going around and denying everything you deem "mainstream" is far from free thinking.

I completely agree. Always disbelieving mainstream science is not thinking for yourself. You should question the mainstream, but that doesn't mean you should automatically disbelieve. Disbelieving everything you hear is just as close minded and stupid as believing everything you hear.

What so you can count to four it don't mean you know anything about free thinking.  What's most important about free thinking is critical thinking, and that's what us flat earthers do.  We think critically.  Take your globe and go back to your mainstream home.

If you really were thinking critically, you would accept when you are wrong. Critical thinking isn't about rejecting what everybody else believes. Just because a belief is mainstream doesn't make it false, and it certainly doesn't make you a sheep for believing it as well.

Quote from: Mike Mazzone on July 18, 2015, 05:14:54 PM

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

And yet simple things like sunsets prove that Earth is round.

No they don't.  The flat earth yoda video shows how sunsets work in the flat earth.  There is a dome, or a firmament as the ancients calls it, that has all kinds of fancy decorations to distract us, but all these astronomers are just looking at the ceiling and can't figure out that it's a ceiling.

No they don't.  The flat earth yoda video shows how sunsets work in the flat earth.  There is a dome, or a firmament as the ancients calls it, that has all kinds of fancy decorations to distract us, but all these astronomers are just looking at the ceiling and can't figure out that it's a ceiling.

If the Sun is just on the dome then why are their time zones?  At the moment I am posting this it's nearly noon and the Sun is almost at it's highest point, but for you that's probobaly not the case.

I would nominate the lack of a border/edge. It is definately not antarctica, and for that matter, nowhere else either.

Quote from: BJ1234 on July 17, 2015, 07:42:50 PM

I would say that the biggest flat earth fallacy is that they are "free thinkers".

Going around and denying everything you deem "mainstream" is far from free thinking.

What so you can count to four it don't mean you know anything about free thinking.  What's most important about free thinking is critical thinking, and that's what us flat earthers do.  We think critically.  Take your globe and go back to your mainstream home.

I have yet to see a flat earther show any signs of critical thinking.  At most, they can throw some obtuse question at a discussion then repeat an argument that has been disproven.

Quote from: V on July 18, 2015, 11:56:57 AM

Quote from: Doglover on July 18, 2015, 11:33:26 AM

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

Please provide one. 

Quote from: V on July 18, 2015, 11:56:57 AM

Quote from: Doglover on July 18, 2015, 11:33:26 AM

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

At what distance? With what power and what divergence of laser?
The divergence of most non-gas lasers is not good enough to create a recognizable dot at several miles distance.
I read a thread few months ago on laserpointerforums.com about guy who wanted to do experiment using a laser to measure curvature of the Earth. We basically told him divergence of lasers probably would not be good enough, unless he was willing to spend huge amounts of money. At 6 miles distance, average laser divergence leads to a spot 10ft in diameter, and 6 mi is probably not enough.

Quote from: Mike Mazzone on July 18, 2015, 05:14:54 PM

Quote from: V on July 18, 2015, 11:56:57 AM

Quote from: Doglover on July 18, 2015, 11:33:26 AM

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

At what distance? With what power and what divergence of laser?
The divergence of most non-gas lasers is not good enough to create a recognizable dot at several miles distance.
I read a thread few months ago on laserpointerforums.com about guy who wanted to do experiment using a laser to measure curvature of the Earth. We basically told him divergence of lasers probably would not be good enough, unless he was willing to spend huge amounts of money. At 6 miles distance, average laser divergence leads to a spot 10ft in diameter, and 6 mi is probably not enough.

Not to mention the fact that many flat earthers have no idea how to calculate curvature. The surface does not curve downward at a constant rate. If it did, it would not be a curve. The surface curves downward "faster" the farther away you go.

Quote from: V on July 19, 2015, 08:03:14 PM

Quote from: Mike Mazzone on July 18, 2015, 05:14:54 PM

Quote from: V on July 18, 2015, 11:56:57 AM

Quote from: Doglover on July 18, 2015, 11:33:26 AM

I nominate the Giant Conspiracy itself.

The fact they think NASA, et al (not to mention whoever it was that came BEFORE NASA) is covering up the fact the Earth is flat is simply ludicrous.

It is ludicrous indeed; all photographic evidence of the curvature of the Earth is fake, but there is no photographic evidence of a flat Earth!

There's more than just photo, there's entire videos of photos of scientific experiments conducted with lasers that support flat earth model.

At what distance? With what power and what divergence of laser?
The divergence of most non-gas lasers is not good enough to create a recognizable dot at several miles distance.
I read a thread few months ago on laserpointerforums.com about guy who wanted to do experiment using a laser to measure curvature of the Earth. We basically told him divergence of lasers probably would not be good enough, unless he was willing to spend huge amounts of money. At 6 miles distance, average laser divergence leads to a spot 10ft in diameter, and 6 mi is probably not enough.

Not to mention the fact that many flat earthers have no idea how to calculate curvature. The surface does not curve downward at a constant rate. If it did, it would not be a curve. The surface curves downward "faster" the farther away you go.

The laser flatness nutters also don't understand that at the mid point of any laser test,  the drop is going to be 1/4 of what it is at the ends.   Suppose you have a 6 mile open expanse of water,   then the curvature will be a drop of 5ft at the end.   but in the middle the bulge will be 1/4 of that,   or  15 inches.   Not 60 inches.

Keep going till you find the spot where the South Celestial Pole is Directly Overhead and you are there.  Compasses wont' help.

It seems that a fairly common RE fallacy is that the magnetic poles are anywhere near the geographic poles.

Quote from: Rayzor on July 18, 2015, 03:24:50 AM

Keep going till you find the spot where the South Celestial Pole is Directly Overhead and you are there.  Compasses wont' help.

It seems that a fairly common RE fallacy is that the magnetic poles are anywhere near the geographic poles.

The magnetic poles are actually quite close to the geographic poles. Currently, the magnetic north pole is just 4 degrees south of the geographic north pole.

Quote from: markjo on July 20, 2015, 10:16:44 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 18, 2015, 03:24:50 AM

Keep going till you find the spot where the South Celestial Pole is Directly Overhead and you are there.  Compasses wont' help.

It seems that a fairly common RE fallacy is that the magnetic poles are anywhere near the geographic poles.

The magnetic poles are actually quite close to the geographic poles. Currently, the magnetic north pole is just 4 degrees south of the geographic north pole.

Incorrect.  It's closer to 14 degrees south of the pole.
https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?docid=1kH_dmq5NyiHNDAjET0VJlu6KPqMC0xfPEWm-zQQ#rows:id=1

Another fallacy:

The conspiracy started with Aristotle when he said earth is round about 300 BC. And that this conspiracy held through all these centuries involving millions of people through the ages and not a single one of them talked

Maybe Aristotle was the father of NASA... And he casted a spell on all his followers to keep them quite.