Riddle me this, Round Earther's.

The force of gravity in your hypothetical round earth, is only 9.8 meters per second.

yes, I agree with you, if only the Earth's gravity was 9.8 meters per second, you'd be quite right. Alas, it is 9.8 metres a second *squared* which makes a whole lot of difference. I'll let you figure out why on your own child.

Having great fun browsing this silly little forum (gawd it's atrociously slow, do any of you know what you are doing at all?), where do you people even crawl out from? 16th century has gone and passed quite a while ago haha

You might find this video very insightful, everything explained as simply as possible so even a child would get it:

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You are thinking about it the wrong way.

Gravity, is not really an acceleration.

It is merely, a constantly applied force.

Because there is no friction, the velocity, appears to accelerate.

But the force itself, remains constant.

A sister to this phenomenon is the merry go round phenomenon.

The fling force, or centrifugal force, is sort of like an illusion.

What is really happening is, like gravity force, just a steady application of force, inertia.

The object appears to be flying outwards, "flinging" from the merry go round, but what is really happening is just a steady application of its own inertia force.

Now you can see, that gravity force, and centrifugal force, are of the same ilk. A steady force, causing phenonemom. One causes the phenomenon, of apparent acceleration, and the other, causes the phenomenon of disobedience to a curved trajectory. These phenomemon are simply optical illusions, but they are still true, not fake decietful illusions, like NASA and such.

So, now you understand forces as I do. Gravity, and Centrifugal "fling" force are merely steady forces.

Knowing this, you can now see that 904 mph, is a much greater value than the value of gravity, 9.8 ms which is only 20 mph.

I believe there is some hope for you. You dont seem quite as dense as the other posters.

Can a moderator lock this thread already, it is obviously not serious in any way, and it feeds the trolls on this forum.

Can a moderator lock this thread already, it is obviously not serious in any way, and it feeds the trolls on this forum.

Not my fault if it feeds Round Earth trolls.

Why would they lock a topic that demonstrates the absurdity of Round Earth?

I mean everyone in this thread has just strawmanned, refused to address basic issues and acknoledge the laws of inertia, and now you want to censor my science?

Get out of here with that.

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Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 11:30:54 AM

There seems to be a misunderstanding here. I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Yes, there seems to be a misunderstanding.  You are using the wrong units of measure for your force too.  MPH, when that is a speed measurement, not a force measurement.  That means that what you are saying is nonsensical.  People cannot possibly understand what you are saying if you cannot portray your thoughts clearly.

So please, go learn why units of measure are important, then come back to us will you?

Please tell me why you so desperately strawman, and cannot refute any of my claims, even when I tidied up my equations and already acknoledged multiple times, that Force = mass*velocity?

Do you even bother to read, or is this all a game to you?

I already stated that the mass component is quite irrelevant, when we are simply talking about human beings.

I feel like you are a dog, who cannot understand basic things.

We are not calculating impact, or damage ratios. So please tell me why multiplying Force by a constant, 100 kg, is so important to you.

Please continue, to pretend like you cannot comprehend my basic math equations as well.

And dont forget, also continue to post inane babble treating my 904 mph centrifugal velocity like it is the same as the Earth is on a straight line.

The Earth travells at a speed of 66,000 mph.

This is a curve path.

This path has an epicenter 92,000.000 miles away.

What this means is that there is a velocity of 904 mph.

904 mph does not mean a magical linear path, that suddenly is "OK" unless the earth stops moving.

904 mph means this is the result of a curved path, and you will constantly feel it.

904 mph how much your linear inertia must be constantly altered to maintain the same orbit as earth.

So, it is not a case of, "you cannot feel it since the earth is not accelerating."

Think of the circus ride analogy.

Surely you can understand this?

Here's a nice little example:
When you're on a plane, moving at 500 mph, do you feel any movement? Surely, by your logic, we should all be flung to the back of the plane.
But if the plane suddenly slows down or speeds up, then you start feeling movement.
The plane is following a curved path across the Earth, because the Earth is round.
Does this change anything? Do you still feel movement on a plane that's moving at a constant speed? No.

Here's a nice little example:
When you're on a plane, moving at 500 mph, do you feel any movement? Surely, by your logic, we should all be flung to the back of the plane.
But if the plane suddenly slows down or speeds up, then you start feeling movement.
The plane is following a curved path across the Earth, because the Earth is round.
Does this change anything? Do you still feel movement on a plane that's moving at a constant speed? No.

No offense, but you need to brush up on science.

If a plane has a curved path, you do constantly feel the plane seat brushing up on your sides.

747 paths are so slow you dont notice.

Heres an example. When you are on a curved road in a car, you always feel the car pushing you against the turn, until you go on a straight road.

747's, same deal, you just dont feel it as much because the cuve is so slow you dont notice.

This does not apply to the Earth though, because the curve is quite large, and the earth is moving very fast.

The earth moves at 66000 mph, and the lateral force is 904 mph.

When a plane has a curved path, it travels at 500 mph. The lateral force is about 10 or so mph.

I dont see what tidal locked exoplanets have to do with anything.

Does it some how explain how human bodies are some how able to withstand 1664 mph of inertia that is pulling them off the planet?

I did some more calculations. I rounded off in my earlier calculations. However, the exact amount of centrifugal force corresponds to 904 mph.

What this means is, you have to move 904 mph towards the sun, laterally, to stay in the same orbit as Earth.
What this means is, the centripetal, or orbit force of the earth, has a velocity of 904 mph.

This is fairly basic math. I wish you guys could understand this.

If the Suns gravity kept a man in orbit, he would surely feel the 904 mph centripetal velocity.

Heh, I'm quite enjoying this shit.  You are a refreshing change from most of the trolls/alts we get here.

It helps to know some physics before you mangle it thoroughly.

Gravity, is not really an acceleration.

It is merely, a constantly applied force.

Because there is no friction, the velocity, appears to accelerate.

But the force itself, remains constant.

Gravity is a force, which depends on mass of bodies and distance between them. Acceleration due to gravity is denoted by 'g' . So gravity is a force and 'g' is acceleration.

no friction and velocity is accelerating / appearing to accelerate ??!! I have no idea what that implies! You should be clear on what you are trying to get at.

Quote from: V on July 13, 2015, 12:26:41 PM

Here's a nice little example:
When you're on a plane, moving at 500 mph, do you feel any movement? Surely, by your logic, we should all be flung to the back of the plane.
But if the plane suddenly slows down or speeds up, then you start feeling movement.
The plane is following a curved path across the Earth, because the Earth is round.
Does this change anything? Do you still feel movement on a plane that's moving at a constant speed? No.

No offense, but you need to brush up on science.

If a plane has a curved path, you do constantly feel the plane seat brushing up on your sides.

747 paths are so slow you dont notice.

Heres an example. When you are on a curved road in a car, you always feel the car pushing you against the turn, until you go on a straight road.

747's, same deal, you just dont feel it as much because the cuve is so slow you dont notice.

This does not apply to the Earth though, because the curve is quite large, and the earth is moving very fast.

The earth moves at 66000 mph, and the lateral force is 904 mph.

When a plane has a curved path, it travels at 500 mph. The lateral force is about 10 or so mph.

The Earth's curve is even slower.
The Earth moves approximately 1/24 of a degree around the sun in one hour. The angle that a plane crosses is far, far further.
Even with a "lateral force" of 10 mph, shouldn't your liquids spill out of your cups on a plane? They don't.

The Earth's curve is even slower.
The Earth moves approximately 1/24 of a degree around the sun in one hour. The angle that a plane crosses is far, far further.
Even with a "lateral force" of 10 mph, shouldn't your liquids spill out of your cups on a plane? They don't.

Here's a pic of the average plane routes.

Lets do the math.
The curve, is about a 30 degree angle.
This takes 5 hours to cross.
The speed of the plane, is 300 miles per hour.

We know, that a 90 degree turn, would require a 100 percent change in velocity.
We know, that a 180 degree turn, would require a 200 percent change in velocity.
So, we can guess that a 30 degree turn, would require a 33 percent change in velocity.

So, we divide 300 miles by 3.
100 miles.
Divide that by 5 hours.
20 miles.
You get 20 miles per hour, per hour.

The speed of gravity, is roughly 20 miles per hour, per hour.

Yet, the velocity required to keep Earth orbit, is 904 miles per hour.

The math, is undeniable. Flat earth, is true.

Gravity is a force, which depends on mass of bodies and distance between them. Acceleration due to gravity is denoted by 'g' . So gravity is a force and 'g' is acceleration.

no friction and velocity is accelerating / appearing to accelerate ??!! I have no idea what that implies! You should be clear on what you are trying to get at.

Let me explain gravity to you. It is not a magical accelerating force. It is simply a constant force.

Objects, will retain their momentum if they are not acted upon by friction. Gravity appears to "accelerate" objects, but what is really happening is simply that gravity is a steady force. Their velocity builds up, and appears to "accelerate" but it's just because it is not being acted on by outside forces and friction.

Here's a pic of the average plane routes.

What in any way is this picture even accurate, much less an average?

Lets do the math.
The curve, is about a 30 degree angle.

Which curve?

This takes 5 hours to cross.

Says who?

The speed of the plane, is 300 miles per hour.

So far you are not doing math, just throwing numbers out like a Jackson Pollock painting.

We know, that a 90 degree turn, would require a 100 percent change in velocity.

We know, that a 180 degree turn, would require a 200 percent change in velocity.[/quote]
So, we can guess that a 30 degree turn, would require a 33 percent change in velocity.

So, we divide 300 miles by 3.
100 miles.
Divide that by 5 hours.
20 miles.
You get 20 miles per hour, per hour.

The speed of gravity, is roughly 20 miles per hour, per hour.[/quote]
The.  Speed.  Of Gravity.  What does that mean?

Yet, the velocity required to keep Earth orbit, is 904 miles per hour.

The math, is undeniable. Flat earth, is true.

Well it is undeniable that you really did not do the required math.  Even if your odd and barely coherent conclusion were true, it still would not mean the Earth is flat.

Let me explain gravity to you. It is not a magical accelerating force. It is simply a constant force.

A constant force applied to a mass will cause acceleration so you are right, it is not a magical accelerating force, it is just an accelerating force.

Objects, will retain their momentum if they are not acted upon by friction. Gravity appears to "accelerate" objects, but what is really happening is simply that gravity is a steady force.

A steady force causes acceleration, so you are contradicting yourself.

Their velocity builds up, and appears to "accelerate" but it's just because it is not being acted on by outside forces and friction.

A build up in velocity is an acceleration.

Can I ask you why you ignore the equation to calculate centrifugal force and instead substitute a variation of the formula for angular velocity?  Do you have some evidence that the centrifugal force formula is inaccurate, other than it does not give the answer you want?

There is no such thing as "centrifugal force", first of all, it is merely inertia acting it's part. How could an equation defining an imaginary substance, "centrifugal force", possibly be right?

More nitpicking about my clip art diagrams, saying they aren't accurate enough, etc. I merely gave you the average curve of a plane flight. I gave you the average speed of a plane. Do you know, that we don't live in a fantasy world, where every plane has the exact same velocity, and follows exactly the same flight pattern at a certain angle?

So what is the point of nitpicking about not measuring the exact angle, since there is no exact angle to measure in the first place.

I know you know what the Speed of Gravity is.

It is the force, that pushes objects 9.8 meters, every second. It ups the velocity to 9.8 meters per second, every second.

Why the conventions make you label it as "per second, per second", bothers me. It is already defined as a force, and an acceleration, so why so redundant? As always, modern science is incredibly deceptive, and misleading.

There is no such thing as "centrifugal force", first of all, it is merely inertia acting it's part.How could an equation defining an imaginary substance, "centrifugal force", possibly be right?

Perhaps we should start slower and you should show why centrifugal force does not exist?  Engineers and scientists regularly account for it and do so using the formula posted earlier.

More nitpicking about my clip art diagrams, saying they aren't accurate enough, etc. I merely gave you the average curve of a plane flight. I gave you the average speed of a plane. Do you know, that we don't live in a fantasy world, where every plane has the exact same velocity, and follows exactly the same flight pattern at a certain angle?

Sorry, it just appears that you are cherry-picking numbers in an effort to give your lack lustre effort some substance.

So what is the point of nitpicking about not measuring the exact angle, since there is no exact angle to measure in the first place.

Well since you are claiming that the spinning Earth overcomes the force of gravity, exact numbers become very important.

I know you know what the Speed of Gravity is.

It is the force, that pushes objects 9.8 meters, every second. It ups the velocity to 9.8 meters per second, every second.

Yes, that is not speed, that is not acceleration, it is a force, there is a difference between everyone that is important.

Why the conventions make you label it as "per second, per second", bothers me. It is already defined as a force, and an acceleration, so why so redundant? As always, modern science is incredibly deceptive, and misleading.

It is defined as a force.  A force applied to a different mass will produce a different acceleration generally.  Variable accelerations give rise to variable velocities as well.  They are three different concepts that describe distinctly different phenomena.  Maybe this conflation is where your confusion lies?

People, don't even try to debate against @GreatandWiseTrixie, you're only feeding the troll. Trixie knows that they are just bullshitting and will keep going just for the lulz. Trixie isn't stupid, they know how much crap they are telling. If you've seen the other posts/threads you'll understand that they are purely a troll that is not the slightest serious.

People, don't even try to debate against @GreatandWiseTrixie, you're only feeding the troll. Trixie knows that they are just bullshitting and will keep going just for the lulz. Trixie isn't stupid, they know how much crap they are telling. If you've seen the other posts/threads you'll understand that they are purely a troll that is not the slightest serious.

This person believes what he thinks, even if what he thinks is delusional and nonsensical. That is the standard among Flat-Earthers.

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 02:00:00 PM

There is no such thing as "centrifugal force", first of all, it is merely inertia acting it's part.How could an equation defining an imaginary substance, "centrifugal force", possibly be right?

Perhaps we should start slower and you should show why centrifugal force does not exist?  Engineers and scientists regularly account for it and do so using the formula posted earlier.

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More nitpicking about my clip art diagrams, saying they aren't accurate enough, etc. I merely gave you the average curve of a plane flight. I gave you the average speed of a plane. Do you know, that we don't live in a fantasy world, where every plane has the exact same velocity, and follows exactly the same flight pattern at a certain angle?

Sorry, it just appears that you are cherry-picking numbers in an effort to give your lack lustre effort some substance.

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So what is the point of nitpicking about not measuring the exact angle, since there is no exact angle to measure in the first place.

Well since you are claiming that the spinning Earth overcomes the force of gravity, exact numbers become very important.

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I know you know what the Speed of Gravity is.

It is the force, that pushes objects 9.8 meters, every second. It ups the velocity to 9.8 meters per second, every second.

Yes, that is not speed, that is not acceleration, it is a force, there is a difference between everyone that is important.

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Why the conventions make you label it as "per second, per second", bothers me. It is already defined as a force, and an acceleration, so why so redundant? As always, modern science is incredibly deceptive, and misleading.

It is defined as a force.  A force applied to a different mass will produce a different acceleration generally.  Variable accelerations give rise to variable velocities as well.  They are three different concepts that describe distinctly different phenomena.  Maybe this conflation is where your confusion lies?

Centrifugal force does not exist. That is serious. It is serious that you believe in invisible, non-existent forces.

Centrifigul force in an optical illusion, caused by the luls of being exposed to hypnotic rotation.

People have been brainwashed to believe, that when they fly off of a merry go round, because of a mystical, non-existent force they call "centrifugal". What is really happening is simply inertia.

Curved trajectories, like sine, do not increase linearly. They "curve". We live in a linear space. So how on earth could an object magically stick to the path of a merry go round? Scientists, of course, invented a fake force, called Centripetal. When its simply "orbit force", the suns gravity, even according to Round Earthers.

Quote from: Master_Evar on July 13, 2015, 02:15:52 PM

People, don't even try to debate against @GreatandWiseTrixie, you're only feeding the troll. Trixie knows that they are just bullshitting and will keep going just for the lulz. Trixie isn't stupid, they know how much crap they are telling. If you've seen the other posts/threads you'll understand that they are purely a troll that is not the slightest serious.

This person believes what he thinks, even if what he thinks is delusional and nonsensical. That is the standard among Flat-Earthers.

This guy is the least serious person I've seen in a long time. Just look at the signature (illuminati reference), the brony reference and his nonsensical bs not even an insane person would imagine.

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Quote from: Master_Evar on July 13, 2015, 02:15:52 PM

People, don't even try to debate against @GreatandWiseTrixie, you're only feeding the troll. Trixie knows that they are just bullshitting and will keep going just for the lulz. Trixie isn't stupid, they know how much crap they are telling. If you've seen the other posts/threads you'll understand that they are purely a troll that is not the slightest serious.

This person believes what he thinks, even if what he thinks is delusional and nonsensical. That is the standard among Flat-Earthers.

This guy is the least serious person I've seen in a long time. Just look at the signature (illuminati reference), the brony reference and his nonsensical bs not even an insane person would imagine.

Stay on topic. Do the sciences.

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Quote from: V on July 13, 2015, 02:17:45 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on July 13, 2015, 02:15:52 PM

People, don't even try to debate against @GreatandWiseTrixie, you're only feeding the troll. Trixie knows that they are just bullshitting and will keep going just for the lulz. Trixie isn't stupid, they know how much crap they are telling. If you've seen the other posts/threads you'll understand that they are purely a troll that is not the slightest serious.

This person believes what he thinks, even if what he thinks is delusional and nonsensical. That is the standard among Flat-Earthers.

This guy is the least serious person I've seen in a long time. Just look at the signature (illuminati reference), the brony reference and his nonsensical bs not even an insane person would imagine.

Stay on topic. Do the sciences.

Then stop being such a dick to science and use it properly, and since you have your own laws of physics you have to provide detailed and mostly flawless mathematical equations and sources to back up your claims, or you are basically lying.

Quote from: Master_Evar on July 13, 2015, 02:26:46 PM

Quote from: V on July 13, 2015, 02:17:45 PM

Quote from: Master_Evar on July 13, 2015, 02:15:52 PM

People, don't even try to debate against @GreatandWiseTrixie, you're only feeding the troll. Trixie knows that they are just bullshitting and will keep going just for the lulz. Trixie isn't stupid, they know how much crap they are telling. If you've seen the other posts/threads you'll understand that they are purely a troll that is not the slightest serious.

This person believes what he thinks, even if what he thinks is delusional and nonsensical. That is the standard among Flat-Earthers.

This guy is the least serious person I've seen in a long time. Just look at the signature (illuminati reference), the brony reference and his nonsensical bs not even an insane person would imagine.

Stay on topic. Do the sciences.

Jesus guys, this is terrible bait. This person measures gravity in terms of speed, obviously they're trolling hard.

Trixie, I'm lowering your trolling score to -20/10, troll better or ill reduce it by -20.

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Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 02:00:00 PM

There is no such thing as "centrifugal force", first of all, it is merely inertia acting it's part.How could an equation defining an imaginary substance, "centrifugal force", possibly be right?

Perhaps we should start slower and you should show why centrifugal force does not exist?  Engineers and scientists regularly account for it and do so using the formula posted earlier.

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More nitpicking about my clip art diagrams, saying they aren't accurate enough, etc. I merely gave you the average curve of a plane flight. I gave you the average speed of a plane. Do you know, that we don't live in a fantasy world, where every plane has the exact same velocity, and follows exactly the same flight pattern at a certain angle?

Sorry, it just appears that you are cherry-picking numbers in an effort to give your lack lustre effort some substance.

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So what is the point of nitpicking about not measuring the exact angle, since there is no exact angle to measure in the first place.

Well since you are claiming that the spinning Earth overcomes the force of gravity, exact numbers become very important.

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I know you know what the Speed of Gravity is.

It is the force, that pushes objects 9.8 meters, every second. It ups the velocity to 9.8 meters per second, every second.

Yes, that is not speed, that is not acceleration, it is a force, there is a difference between everyone that is important.

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Why the conventions make you label it as "per second, per second", bothers me. It is already defined as a force, and an acceleration, so why so redundant? As always, modern science is incredibly deceptive, and misleading.

It is defined as a force.  A force applied to a different mass will produce a different acceleration generally.  Variable accelerations give rise to variable velocities as well.  They are three different concepts that describe distinctly different phenomena.  Maybe this conflation is where your confusion lies?

Centrifugal force does not exist. That is serious. It is serious that you believe in invisible, non-existent forces.

Centrifigul force in an optical illusion, caused by the luls of being exposed to hypnotic rotation.

People have been brainwashed to believe, that when they fly off of a merry go round, because of a mystical, non-existent force they call "centrifugal". What is really happening is simply inertia.

Curved trajectories, like sine, do not increase linearly. They "curve". We live in a linear space. So how on earth could an object magically stick to the path of a merry go round? Scientists, of course, invented a fake force, called Centripetal. When its simply "orbit force", the suns gravity, even according to Round Earthers.

Have you ever used a gravity simulator?
If you do, you will understand why stable orbits are possible.

Quote from: V on July 13, 2015, 12:26:41 PM

Here's a nice little example:
When you're on a plane, moving at 500 mph, do you feel any movement? Surely, by your logic, we should all be flung to the back of the plane.
But if the plane suddenly slows down or speeds up, then you start feeling movement.
The plane is following a curved path across the Earth, because the Earth is round.
Does this change anything? Do you still feel movement on a plane that's moving at a constant speed? No.

No offense, but you need to brush up on science.

If a plane has a curved path, you do constantly feel the plane seat brushing up on your sides.

747 paths are so slow you dont notice.

Heres an example. When you are on a curved road in a car, you always feel the car pushing you against the turn, until you go on a straight road.

747's, same deal, you just dont feel it as much because the cuve is so slow you dont notice.

This does not apply to the Earth though, because the curve is quite large, and the earth is moving very fast.

The earth moves at 66000 mph, and the lateral force is 904 mph.

When a plane has a curved path, it travels at 500 mph. The lateral force is about 10 or so mph.

Once again, mph is a speed, not a force.  Once you figure this out, you should be on your way of seeing your error.

There is no such thing as "centrifugal force", first of all, it is merely inertia acting it's part. How could an equation defining an imaginary substance, "centrifugal force", possibly be right?

I know that it doesn't exist, but it's a lot easier to say/type then "That one effect where things on a rotating object feel an apparent force from a rotating reference frame because of inertia".

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Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 11:30:54 AM

There seems to be a misunderstanding here. I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Yes, there seems to be a misunderstanding.  You are using the wrong units of measure for your force too.  MPH, when that is a speed measurement, not a force measurement.  That means that what you are saying is nonsensical.  People cannot possibly understand what you are saying if you cannot portray your thoughts clearly.

So please, go learn why units of measure are important, then come back to us will you?

Please tell me why you so desperately strawman, and cannot refute any of my claims, even when I tidied up my equations and already acknoledged multiple times, that Force = mass*velocity?

Not a straw man.  I am not attacking something that you are not saying.  I am attacking what you say.  You keep saying that this force is in mph.  That is, once again, a speed, not a force.  Since you acknowledge that the force = mass * velocity, how could force be in the units of mph?

Do you even bother to read, or is this all a game to you?

I do read, however, your argument is written using the wrong units, and logical inconsistencies.

I already stated that the mass component is quite irrelevant, when we are simply talking about human beings.

Why?  Without mass, there is no force. 

I feel like you are a dog, who cannot understand basic things.

The feeling is mutual then. 

We are not calculating impact, or damage ratios. So please tell me why multiplying Force by a constant, 100 kg, is so important to you.

Go and show me where I even mentioned multiplying force by 100kg.

Please continue, to pretend like you cannot comprehend my basic math equations as well.

Please go and use proper units of measure.  Then maybe your math could possibly, one day, make sense.

And dont forget, also continue to post inane babble treating my 904 mph centrifugal velocity like it is the same as the Earth is on a straight line.

The Earth travells at a speed of 66,000 mph.

This is a curve path.

This path has an epicenter 92,000.000 miles away.

What this means is that there is a velocity of 904 mph.

904 mph does not mean a magical linear path, that suddenly is "OK" unless the earth stops moving.

904 mph means this is the result of a curved path, and you will constantly feel it.

904 mph how much your linear inertia must be constantly altered to maintain the same orbit as earth.

So, it is not a case of, "you cannot feel it since the earth is not accelerating."

 
So, how fast is the earth changing speed?  If you accelerated 904mph in 1 second, it would be bad.  If you accelerated 904mph over the course of 24 hrs, you would probably not feel the acceleration.

Think of the circus ride analogy.

And if the circus ride spun at 1 revolution per day, would you feel any force?  At 1 revolution per year?  What would you feel?

Surely you can understand this?

I understand what you are trying to say.  However, this "fling force" that you have made up, is not nearly as large as you pretend to be.

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Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Why haven't you used the formula to calculate centrifugal force yet?  Is it that you do not know how to use the formula or that the answer does not serve your purpose?

Centrifugal force, or "fling force" on Earth would be 1664 mph.

This is why Round Earth is false.

Imagine Round Earth, is like a rock on a string, being swung around by a child.

Gravity, is that string, holding it in orbit, around the child, the Sun.

Anything on the rock, the Earth's surface, would fly away at 1664 mph.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that we are on rock, withstanding a fling force of 1664 mph?

How come we have proof of nearly round tidally locked exoplanets? With your flawed math, they would either have to get destoryed, or become lens shaped disklike objects if they somehow manage to not break apart. I don't think you even understand how orbits work. Orbits are not comparable to a merry-go-around in any way.

When did you conduct your experiments in order to gather this proof?  Oh, I see now.  You are just taking the lying satanic scientists word for it.   

Considering satanism stands for rationalism and free thought this feels like a compliment.

Gravity is a speed. No trolling about it. I already explained to you that it is a steady force.
All things, accelerate the same speed of gravity. Only when you deal with huge masses is it neccessary to incorporate the mass variable. This is basic highschool science. A tennis ball, and a grown man, both accelerate at the speed of 9.8 ms. Mass component is not necessary for the calculation. Do you understand this?

I never said things could not orbit, in fact certain things do appear to orbit around a flat earth. All Im saying is with that orbit, a man would be under incredible forces, 904 miles per hour to be exact.

The Earth is Flat, and that's final.

Gravity is a speed. No trolling about it. I already explained to you that it is a steady force.
All things, accelerate the same speed of gravity. Only when you deal with huge masses is it neccessary to incorporate the mass variable. This is basic highschool science. A tennis ball, and a grown man, both accelerate at the speed of 9.8 ms. Mass component is not necessary for the calculation. Do you understand this?

I never said things could not orbit, in fact certain things do appear to orbit around a flat earth. All Im saying is with that orbit, a man would be under incredible forces, 904 miles per hour to be exact.

The Earth is Flat, and that's final.

Such a great argument.  Except, speed is not force, speed is not acceleration, and force is not acceleration.  You cannot simply interchange those whenever you see fit.  Had you passed your highschool physics class, you would know this.

What path do you think planes take when they go around the world? 

What path do you think planes take when they go around the world?

Addressed on page 4.

I passed my Highschool physics final, with a perfect A+ score. I did not even study for it till the night before.