Riddle me this, Round Earther's.

Here are your equations.



I wonder who has the brain defect, you or me?

Help me decide.

You didn't calculate the centripetal force.    I gave you the formula earlier.

Here are your equations.



I wonder who has the brain defect, you or me?

Help me decide.

You, since you can't even do maths.

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

We are connected to the earth,  and yes you do need to understand why that's important.   I'm surprised you haven't noticed you are connected to the earth.  BTW.  It's centripetal  not centripedal.   

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

Take a bucket of water and spin it rapidly in a horizontal axis. You will commit "fantasy".

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:24:06 AM

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

We are connected to the earth,  and yes you do need to understand why that's important.   I'm surprised you haven't noticed you are connected to the earth.  BTW.  It's centripetal  not centripedal.

Last time I checked, our feet are not connected to the earth's surface. Nice strawman correcting insignificant typos.

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:24:06 AM

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

Take a bucket of water and spin it rapidly in a horizontal axis. You will commit "fantasy".

Good job proving yourself wrong actually. If the bucket had holes, the water would escape outwardly from orbit, following a linear trajectory, ignoring the curved path of the bucket.

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:30:20 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:24:06 AM

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

We are connected to the earth,  and yes you do need to understand why that's important.   I'm surprised you haven't noticed you are connected to the earth.  BTW.  It's centripetal  not centripedal.

Last time I checked, our feet are not connected to the earth's surface. Nice strawman correcting insignificant typos.

Earth would collapse if it had to endure the force you "calculated". How come we can see other planetary bodies, which are even closer to the sun and travel faster? Wouldn't they have broken apart too?

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:30:20 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:24:06 AM

Centripedal force plays no part in this. Men, are not physically connected to the earth's surface. Centripedal force is a fantasy. Objects do not magically follow a curved trajectory. The only time an object obeys centripetal forces is if it is connected to itself, a solid object.

A man, on earth, would not magically follow a curved trajectory, simply because earth is on a curved trajectory.

My oh my how the clowns of science have deluded ye.

We are connected to the earth,  and yes you do need to understand why that's important.   I'm surprised you haven't noticed you are connected to the earth.  BTW.  It's centripetal  not centripedal.

Last time I checked, our feet are not connected to the earth's surface. Nice strawman correcting insignificant typos.

Assuming you aren't massless,  then you are held to the earth by a force equal to your mass times the acceleration due to gravity.  If your mass is 100 kg  then there is a force of 100 kg connecting you to the earth. 

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:31:45 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Wasn't Gforce a cartoon?   Hamsters maybe?    It's not a force known to any real world physics.   Oh,  and read up on the difference between force, velocity and acceleration,  it will help.

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:35:08 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:31:45 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Why haven't you used the formula to calculate centrifugal force yet?  Is it that you do not know how to use the formula or that the answer does not serve your purpose?

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:35:08 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:31:45 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

It's spelled g-force and is measured in g. A g is the force of the earths gravity acting upon something on its surface, and not some imaginary unit.

Just to make things clear Im giving Science a much needed makeover.

My use of the word Gforce, may have confused some of you. I did not refer to the common round earth definition, but my own TruScience definition. The kind of Gforce I describe would be the Gforce you feel on a circus ride, spinning around. The lateral force that pushes you outward, away from the center of the ride.

Also, I would like to do away with the term "centripetal force." It is an ancient term made up my Newton, and is magical sounding. A magical sounding force does not force objects on a curved trajectory, since there is no such thing as angular conservation of momentum.

Instead, I would like to replace the term with "orbit force", which means what it implies - An object maintains a circular path, because it is orbiting around another object, due to gravity.

I would also like to do away with the second component of "force", which is entirely uneeded for this particular set of calculations. In the old ways, it was encouraged to multiply force, by a mass. But since mass is associated with weight, and weight is a relative variable dependent on what size surface you are on, multiplying the force by mass adds unneeded bloat to the calculations.

Instead, I keep the calculations to their absolute.

So, the Gforce due to orbit of earth, is equal to 1664 mph of fling force.

No way 9.8 meters per second of gravity force could hold that.

9.8 meters per second is only about 20 miles per hour.

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:41:23 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:35:08 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:31:45 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Why haven't you used the formula to calculate centrifugal force yet?  Is it that you do not know how to use the formula or that the answer does not serve your purpose?

Centrifugal force, or "fling force" on Earth would be 1664 mph.

This is why Round Earth is false.

Imagine Round Earth, is like a rock on a string, being swung around by a child.

Gravity, is that string, holding it in orbit, around the child, the Sun.

Anything on the rock, the Earth's surface, would fly away at 1664 mph.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that we are on rock, withstanding a fling force of 1664 mph?

Quote from: Rama Set on July 13, 2015, 05:37:10 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:41:23 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:35:08 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:31:45 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on July 13, 2015, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Why haven't you used the formula to calculate centrifugal force yet?  Is it that you do not know how to use the formula or that the answer does not serve your purpose?

Centrifugal force, or "fling force" on Earth would be 1664 mph.

This is why Round Earth is false.

Imagine Round Earth, is like a rock on a string, being swung around by a child.

Gravity, is that string, holding it in orbit, around the child, the Sun.

Anything on the rock, the Earth's surface, would fly away at 1664 mph.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that we are on rock, withstanding a fling force of 1664 mph?

How come we have proof of nearly round tidally locked exoplanets? With your flawed math, they would either have to get destoryed, or become lens shaped disklike objects if they somehow manage to not break apart. I don't think you even understand how orbits work. Orbits are not comparable to a merry-go-around in any way.

Quote from: Rama Set on July 13, 2015, 05:37:10 AM

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Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM

Enough with the red herrings. My fashion sense should not be part of the discussion. Focus on the equations.

A man being flung is not quite accurate. What I mean is there would be a force of momentum equivalent to 1664 mph propelling him away from the planet.

He would actually be flung slower than 1664 mph, due to atmospheric friction, and slightly slowed by gravity.

What is "a force of momentum"?   Momentum and force are different things.    Do you know how to calculate centripetal force?

A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek"[1]) is a force that makes a body follow a curved path.

There is no such thing in Nature. Perhaps what you are talking about is the Sun's gravity.

I call this "orbit force".

Let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that round earth is real, and it orbits around the sun.

A man, in orbit around the sun the same as Earth orbit, would experience a Gforce equivalent to 1664 miles per hour.

Tie a rock to a piece of string and whizz it around your head,  centripetal force is the force required to accelerate the rock to move in a circle.    Whenever you have acceleration you have force  F=ma.

Good job again. Forcing a rock to be constrained to the string, would cause a phenonomenon known as GForce to occur. GForce exerts a measurable force on the rock. In your case, the force on your rock is of only a few miles per hour.

If, say, you forced a human to be constrained to the hypothetical round Earth, and its orbit, it would exert a GForce of 1664 miles per hour.

Earth, with its water, could not withstand such a force.

However, gaseous bodies, or dense rock planets with no life and water, or only ice, surely could withstand high Gforce.

I omitted the mass component of force because it is irrelevant.

If I added it to my Gforce value, the force would be 166400.

Why haven't you used the formula to calculate centrifugal force yet?  Is it that you do not know how to use the formula or that the answer does not serve your purpose?

Centrifugal force, or "fling force" on Earth would be 1664 mph.

No, 1664 mph is a speed.  It is not a force.  Please learn what a force is.  Then maybe you would understand why you are wrong.

This is why Round Earth is false.

No, this is why your assertions are false.

Imagine Round Earth, is like a rock on a string, being swung around by a child.

Gravity, is that string, holding it in orbit, around the child, the Sun.

Anything on the rock, the Earth's surface, would fly away at 1664 mph.

You are forgetting all the strings of gravity holding everything to the ball.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that we are on rock, withstanding a fling force of 1664 mph?

Maybe once you understand the difference between speed and force, more people might be persuaded to listen to what you are trying to say.

Actually, only if the Earth stopped spinning would everything fly off.
We feel no acceleration from the earth spinning, but if it stopped that would change.

Just to make things clear Im giving Science a much needed makeover.

What're'ya gonna do, stick some glittery stars on it?

Actually, only if the Earth stopped spinning would everything fly off.
We feel no acceleration from the earth spinning, but if it stopped that would change.

Another ludicrous claim from the Round Earthers.

He claims that merry go rounds have a magical inertia, that is dependent on acceleration.

Um no. Objects on a merry go round dont magically stay in a curve, magically secured in place by an unchanging rotational velocity of the merry go round.

Do you guys even understand basic physics?

Or are you going to nitpick about how I didnt add the mass component to equations you dont understand.

Nothing about my maths were wrong.

The more I think about it, the more absurd Round Earth sounds.

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 08:45:49 AM

Just to make things clear Im giving Science a much needed makeover.

What're'ya gonna do, stick some glittery stars on it?

That is exactly what I believe is occuring.

The centrifugal, or centripedal force, whatever you want to call it, has a speed component of 1664 mph.

Round earthers, want us to believe, that because the Earth is in orbit, things, such as humans and objects, should magically stay in place, because of the gravity of the sun.

This is an absurd notion, because if the gravity of the sun did in fact hold humans in place, in orbit around the sun, they would be subjected to a tensor force of 1664 mph*times their mass.

1664 mph. And I thought circus rides were bad.

Imagine your self on a rock, with a child 92 million miles away, swinging you at a speed of 41,600 mph. And yet, magically, you feel no unpleasant force at all. And that is exactly what Round Earthers want you to believe.

I already explained to them, that such a scenario would result in 1664 mph of centrifugal force, or fling force, or require a force equivalent to the speed of 1664 mph. Since they continue to nitpick my wording, I will change the word "force" to "velocity component" for their simple minds.

Unfortunately, Round Earthers dont seem to grasp their own absurdity.

Quote from: V on July 13, 2015, 09:52:30 AM

Actually, only if the Earth stopped spinning would everything fly off.
We feel no acceleration from the earth spinning, but if it stopped that would change.

Another ludicrous claim from the Round Earthers.

He claims that merry go rounds have a magical inertia, that is dependent on acceleration.

Um no. Objects on a merry go round dont magically stay in a curve, magically secured in place by an unchanging rotational velocity of the merry go round.

Do you guys even understand basic physics?

Or are you going to nitpick about how I didnt add the mass component to equations you dont understand.

Nothing about my maths were wrong.

The more I think about it, the more absurd Round Earth sounds.

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Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 08:45:49 AM

Just to make things clear Im giving Science a much needed makeover.

What're'ya gonna do, stick some glittery stars on it?

That is exactly what I believe is occuring.

The centrifugal, or centripedal force, whatever you want to call it, has a speed component of 1664 mph.

Round earthers, want us to believe, that because the Earth is in orbit, things, such as humans and objects, should magically stay in place, because of the gravity of the sun.

This is an absurd notion, because if the gravity of the sun did in fact hold humans in place, in orbit around the sun, they would be subjected to a tensor force of 1664 mph*times their mass.

1664 mph. And I thought circus rides were bad.

Imagine your self on a rock, with a child 92 million miles away, swinging you at a speed of 41,600 mph. And yet, magically, you feel no unpleasant force at all. And that is exactly what Round Earthers want you to believe.

I already explained to them, that such a scenario would result in 1664 mph of centrifugal force, or fling force, or require a force equivalent to the speed of 1664 mph. Since they continue to nitpick my wording, I will change the word "force" to "velocity component" for their simple minds.

Unfortunately, Round Earthers dont seem to grasp their own absurdity.

You still have not replied to my post about tidally locked exoplanets.

Here are your equations.



I wonder who has the brain defect, you or me?

Help me decide.

Learn what relative velocity is and come back.  You current argument is equivalent to this: "If you are driving a car going 80 miles per hour and you throw a ball strait up in the car then it should crash through the front window of the car at 80 miles per hour because the ball is moving forward at 80 miles per hour.".  You are mixing up your reference frames.

After you learn that very basic physics concept you should refer to this web page about centripetal acceleration:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/centripetal-acceleration-d_1285.html

Then redo your calculations properly and present your new answer.

Also keep in mind that as the Earth orbits the Sun it is pulled in by the Sun's gravity, which effects cars, people and cheese too!  (*shock*)

I dont see what tidal locked exoplanets have to do with anything.

Does it some how explain how human bodies are some how able to withstand 1664 mph of inertia that is pulling them off the planet?

I did some more calculations. I rounded off in my earlier calculations. However, the exact amount of centrifugal force corresponds to 904 mph.

What this means is, you have to move 904 mph towards the sun, laterally, to stay in the same orbit as Earth.
What this means is, the centripetal, or orbit force of the earth, has a velocity of 904 mph.

This is fairly basic math. I wish you guys could understand this.

If the Suns gravity kept a man in orbit, he would surely feel the 904 mph centripetal velocity.

Do not post more crap about linear acceleration.

The Earth travels at a curved trajectory, of about 66,000 mph.

The Earth is 92 million miles from the sun.

This means, the centripetal force, is 904 mph.

Do not post more crap about the earth being large.

Do not post more crap about the earth defying physics.

Do not post more crap about how your misunderstandings of curve physics.

Please explain, how every man on Earth, undergoes a centripetal force of 904 mph*their mass, and yet, mysteriously, feels absolutely nothing of the matter.

For instance, a circus ride only has about 3 mph*their mass of centripetal force.

Learn what relative velocity is and come back.  You current argument is equivalent to this: "If you are driving a car going 80 miles per hour and you throw a ball strait up in the car then it should crash through the front window of the car at 80 miles per hour because the ball is moving forward at 80 miles per hour.".  You are mixing up your reference frames.

After you learn that very basic physics concept you should refer to this web page about centripetal acceleration:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/centripetal-acceleration-d_1285.html

Then redo your calculations properly and present your new answer.

Also keep in mind that as the Earth orbits the Sun it is pulled in by the Sun's gravity, which effects cars, people and cheese too!  (*shock*)

There seems to be a misunderstanding here. I don't think you understand what I am saying.

First of all, your car analogy makes no sense. Why would you add another dimension, up, when I never said anything about tossing a ball up?

Please read my post directly above this one.

If the Suns gravity did infact do as Round Earther's believe, it would have a centripetal, or lateral orbit force, equivalant to a velocity of 904 miles per hour.

What this means is, a lateral velocity of 904 miles and hour would be exerted on Round Earth and its constituents, by the Suns gravity.

Meanwhile, a circus ride exerts a measly lateral velocity of 3 miles per hour.

How can this be?

Before you respond, please refrain from posting drivel about centripetal force being the same as linear inertia.

A lateral, centrifigual force, such as a circus ride, is always felt.

Circus rides, have a lateral, or centrifugal velocity, of about 3 miles per hour.

The hypothetical, round earth, has a lateral, or centrifugal velocity, of about 904 miles per hour.

Once again, please refrain from posting inane babble about curved trajectories behaving the same as linear trajectories.

There seems to be a misunderstanding here. I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Yes, there seems to be a misunderstanding.  You are using the wrong units of measure for your force too.  MPH, when that is a speed measurement, not a force measurement.  That means that what you are saying is nonsensical.  People cannot possibly understand what you are saying if you cannot portray your thoughts clearly.

So please, go learn why units of measure are important, then come back to us will you?

Quote from: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 13, 2015, 11:30:54 AM

There seems to be a misunderstanding here. I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Yes, there seems to be a misunderstanding.  You are using the wrong units of measure for your force too.  MPH, when that is a speed measurement, not a force measurement.  That means that what you are saying is nonsensical.  People cannot possibly understand what you are saying if you cannot portray your thoughts clearly.

So please, go learn why units of measure are important, then come back to us will you?

Please tell me why you so desperately strawman, and cannot refute any of my claims, even when I tidied up my equations and already acknoledged multiple times, that Force = mass*velocity?

Do you even bother to read, or is this all a game to you?

I already stated that the mass component is quite irrelevant, when we are simply talking about human beings.

I feel like you are a dog, who cannot understand basic things.

We are not calculating impact, or damage ratios. So please tell me why multiplying Force by a constant, 100 kg, is so important to you.

Please continue, to pretend like you cannot comprehend my basic math equations as well.

And dont forget, also continue to post inane babble treating my 904 mph centrifugal velocity like it is the same as the Earth is on a straight line.

The Earth travells at a speed of 66,000 mph.

This is a curve path.

This path has an epicenter 92,000.000 miles away.

What this means is that there is a velocity of 904 mph.

904 mph does not mean a magical linear path, that suddenly is "OK" unless the earth stops moving.

904 mph means this is the result of a curved path, and you will constantly feel it.

904 mph how much your linear inertia must be constantly altered to maintain the same orbit as earth.

So, it is not a case of, "you cannot feel it since the earth is not accelerating."

Think of the circus ride analogy.

Surely you can understand this?