Magnetism (?)

Im writing a book about the Bosnian war from the perspective of a Bosnian immigrent to america and I ran in to some troubel . At one point in the book I talk about my compas (I had a compas in the war ) and I re counted my explanation to a Bosnian boy a bout why compasesses work but know I realize that my explanations about the polls and the center of the earth dont make sense now because of what I now about the flat earth theory. Can any one please explane to me how I can reconcile this dichotomy?

Danke shun,

BOsnianVet

Im writing a book about the Bosnian war from the perspective of a Bosnian immigrent to america and I ran in to some troubel . At one point in the book I talk about my compas (I had a compas in the war ) and I re counted my explanation to a Bosnian boy a bout why compasesses work but know I realize that my explanations about the polls and the center of the earth dont make sense now because of what I now about the flat earth theory. Can any one please explane to me how I can reconcile this dichotomy?

Danke shun,

BOsnianVet

Think of a disk magnet.
The north pole is in the center of the flat earth, whereas the south pole is all along the edge.

Im writing a book about the Bosnian war from the perspective of a Bosnian immigrent to america and I ran in to some troubel . At one point in the book I talk about my compas (I had a compas in the war ) and I re counted my explanation to a Bosnian boy a bout why compasesses work but know I realize that my explanations about the polls and the center of the earth dont make sense now because of what I now about the flat earth theory. Can any one please explane to me how I can reconcile this dichotomy?

Danke shun,

BOsnianVet

Bitte,   I love it, that someone who apparently understands and  correctly spells dichotomy,  can't spell trouble.   I'm really enjoying your posts.

A disk magnet has a north pole on one face of the disk and a south pole on the other face. Not a north pole in the center and south pole at the edge.

Imagine a bar magnet. North on one edge, South the other. If you cut the magnet in half now you have two smaller bar magnets. North pole/south pole and North pole/south pole as before.

Now imagine the disk is a very short but thick bar magnet. .North pole on top south on the bottom. (Or vice versa) Imagine cutting it in half, you now get two disks, that are essentially flatter bar magnets with both having North pole on top south on the bottom. (Or vice versa).

You can see this for yourself. If you have some nice flat refrigerator magnets. Place two together. They will either repel or attract. Flip one over and they will now do the opposite.

A disk magnet has a north pole on one face of the disk and a south pole on the other face. Not a north pole in the center and south pole at the edge.

Imagine a bar magnet. North on one edge, South the other. If you cut the magnet in half now you have two smaller bar magnets. North pole/south pole and North pole/south pole as before.

Now imagine the disk is a very short but thick bar magnet. .North pole on top south on the bottom. (Or vice versa) Imagine cutting it in half, you now get two disks, that are essentially flatter bar magnets with both having North pole on top south on the bottom. (Or vice versa).

You can see this for yourself. If you have some nice flat refrigerator magnets. Place two together. They will either repel or attract. Flip one over and they will now do the opposite.

It depends on how they are magnetized.
Axially and diametrically magnetized behave in this fashion, sure.
Arc segment (arc) magnets can be magnetized in one of four directions.
One of them is where the south pole is on the outside face of the magnet, and the north pole is situated pointing towards the center.
Not everything is a simple axially magnetized bar magnet, sir.

I don't see why  the North Pole can't be on one side of a flat magnet and the South Pole on the other side. 

Im writing a book about the Bosnian war from the perspective of a Bosnian immigrent to america and I ran in to some troubel . At one point in the book I talk about my compas (I had a compas in the war ) and I re counted my explanation to a Bosnian boy a bout why compasesses work but know I realize that my explanations about the polls and the center of the earth dont make sense now because of what I now about the flat earth theory. Can any one please explane to me how I can reconcile this dichotomy?

Danke shun,

BOsnianVet

By becoming a RE'r. It all works nicely, why do you guys have to hold on to your ideas so stubbornly?

I don't see why  the North Pole can't be on one side of a flat magnet and the South Pole on the other side.

Correct,   so that means you are saying the flat earth theory is dead,  at least as far as the observed earth's magnetic field is concerned.

I don't see why  the North Pole can't be on one side of a flat magnet and the South Pole on the other side.

May we take this to mean you're now one of JRowe's converts?

Quote from: jroa on April 28, 2015, 05:29:43 PM

I don't see why  the North Pole can't be on one side of a flat magnet and the South Pole on the other side.

Correct,   so that means you are saying the flat earth theory is dead,  at least as far as the observed earth's magnetic field is concerned.

A compass would still point north towards the center of the magnet and south in the opposite direction.  Is there something I am not understanding about your concept of magnetism?

May we take this to mean you're now one of JRowe's converts?

No, nononono... not this FE'er. 

A compass would still point north towards the center of the magnet and south in the opposite direction.  Is there something I am not understanding about your concept of magnetism?

You might be excused for thinking that, but compasses line up with the magnetic field lines,  which, as it happens are mostly north south on the earth,  and probably so on the flat earth disc magnet model,  but since we now know that the south magnetic pole is a single point  ( see the other thread for more detail )  the flat earth model cannot be a disc magnet and is more like a bar magnet which  would have magnetic field lines intersecting the flat earth earth's surface vertically rather than horizontal.  This is obviously not what we observe, so the flat earth model fails to describe the observed reality. 

RIP flat earth, dual earth also fails,  as does concave earth..  the only model which matches reality is the spherical model.

Quote from: jroa on April 29, 2015, 02:25:48 AM

A compass would still point north towards the center of the magnet and south in the opposite direction.  Is there something I am not understanding about your concept of magnetism?

You might be excused for thinking that, but compasses line up with the magnetic field lines,  which, as it happens are mostly north south on the earth,  and probably so on the flat earth disc magnet model,  but since we now know that the south magnetic pole is a single point  ( see the other thread for more detail )  the flat earth model cannot be a disc magnet and is more like a bar magnet which  would have magnetic field lines intersecting the flat earth earth's surface vertically rather than horizontal.  This is obviously not what we observe, so the flat earth model fails to describe the observed reality. 

RIP flat earth, dual earth also fails,  as does concave earth..  the only model which matches reality is the spherical model.

Please refer to my previous post.
It is not uncommon for certain magnets to be magnetized with the north pole facing toward the center and the south pole facing outward on the edge.

Quote from: Rayzor on April 29, 2015, 03:42:51 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 29, 2015, 02:25:48 AM

A compass would still point north towards the center of the magnet and south in the opposite direction.  Is there something I am not understanding about your concept of magnetism?

You might be excused for thinking that, but compasses line up with the magnetic field lines,  which, as it happens are mostly north south on the earth,  and probably so on the flat earth disc magnet model,  but since we now know that the south magnetic pole is a single point  ( see the other thread for more detail )  the flat earth model cannot be a disc magnet and is more like a bar magnet which  would have magnetic field lines intersecting the flat earth earth's surface vertically rather than horizontal.  This is obviously not what we observe, so the flat earth model fails to describe the observed reality. 

RIP flat earth, dual earth also fails,  as does concave earth..  the only model which matches reality is the spherical model.

Please refer to my previous post.
It is not uncommon for certain magnets to be magnetized with the north pole facing toward the center and the south pole facing outward on the edge.

Yes, speaker magnets are exactly like that,   Please see the first post in the other thread,  where I  pointed out the South Magnetic Pole is a single point , and of course that shows the disk magnet theory doesn't reflect reality.   

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63463.20

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 29, 2015, 12:45:22 PM

Quote from: Rayzor on April 29, 2015, 03:42:51 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 29, 2015, 02:25:48 AM

A compass would still point north towards the center of the magnet and south in the opposite direction.  Is there something I am not understanding about your concept of magnetism?

You might be excused for thinking that, but compasses line up with the magnetic field lines,  which, as it happens are mostly north south on the earth,  and probably so on the flat earth disc magnet model,  but since we now know that the south magnetic pole is a single point  ( see the other thread for more detail )  the flat earth model cannot be a disc magnet and is more like a bar magnet which  would have magnetic field lines intersecting the flat earth earth's surface vertically rather than horizontal.  This is obviously not what we observe, so the flat earth model fails to describe the observed reality. 

RIP flat earth, dual earth also fails,  as does concave earth..  the only model which matches reality is the spherical model.

Please refer to my previous post.
It is not uncommon for certain magnets to be magnetized with the north pole facing toward the center and the south pole facing outward on the edge.

Yes, speaker magnets are exactly like that,   Please see the first post in the other thread,  where I  pointed out the South Magnetic Pole is a single point , and of course that shows the disk magnet theory doesn't reflect reality.   

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63463.20

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

Quote from: Rayzor on April 30, 2015, 03:03:26 AM

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 29, 2015, 12:45:22 PM

Quote from: Rayzor on April 29, 2015, 03:42:51 AM

Quote from: jroa on April 29, 2015, 02:25:48 AM

A compass would still point north towards the center of the magnet and south in the opposite direction.  Is there something I am not understanding about your concept of magnetism?

You might be excused for thinking that, but compasses line up with the magnetic field lines,  which, as it happens are mostly north south on the earth,  and probably so on the flat earth disc magnet model,  but since we now know that the south magnetic pole is a single point  ( see the other thread for more detail )  the flat earth model cannot be a disc magnet and is more like a bar magnet which  would have magnetic field lines intersecting the flat earth earth's surface vertically rather than horizontal.  This is obviously not what we observe, so the flat earth model fails to describe the observed reality. 

RIP flat earth, dual earth also fails,  as does concave earth..  the only model which matches reality is the spherical model.

Please refer to my previous post.
It is not uncommon for certain magnets to be magnetized with the north pole facing toward the center and the south pole facing outward on the edge.

Yes, speaker magnets are exactly like that,   Please see the first post in the other thread,  where I  pointed out the South Magnetic Pole is a single point , and of course that shows the disk magnet theory doesn't reflect reality.   

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63463.20

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

I guess we should apply the same logic when you refer to ENaG for more than one reason?

The way I see it is this. The earth is a flat disc on an infinte plane that forms the base or floor of the universe. Above the earth the galexy and the univeres rotate on an axis formed between the north pole and the north star Polaras. Between the north pole and the north start a magnetic field is formed. The north star is magnetic. The north pole is actually the magnetic south pole(even the REer's believe this) and the north start is magnetic north. compasses on earth are pulled into this magentic field. The REer's "south pole" does not exist at all becaue there is no certain location on the ice ring that surround the earth for the south pole and if there were a magentic south pole in antarcitca in a flat earth, everything woulf be turned on its head.

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

You can prove the shape of magnetic fields  to yourself.    Get a bar magnet,  place a piece of paper on top and sprinkle iron filings on the paper,  the iron filings line up with the magnetic  field lines.

Now go out and get a cheap compass,   you will find that it mostly points north,   but if you look closely you will see that the needle doesn't sit quite flat,  ( unless you are on the equator ) that tilt is called magnetic inclination and it varies depending on where  you are on earth.   With the flat earth model the bar magnet field lines will intersect the earth surface at right angles.   So on a flat earth a compass will point up and down, not north and south.

The traditional flat earth model ( see FAQ ) overcame this problem by proposing the earth's magentic field was like a speaker magnet with the south pole all the way around the disk,  But since we know the South Magnetic pole is a single point ( and you can go there yourself to prove it )  the magnetic disk model can't be correct.  So the flat earth model falls flat.

Flat earth does not reflect reality, whereas round earth does.     Draw your own conclusions.

Quote from: jroa on April 30, 2015, 04:32:56 PM

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

You can prove the shape of magnetic fields  to yourself.    Get a bar magnet,  place a piece of paper on top and sprinkle iron filings on the paper,  the iron filings line up with the magnetic  field lines.

Now go out and get a cheap compass,   you will find that it mostly points north,   but if you look closely you will see that the needle doesn't sit quite flat,  ( unless you are on the equator ) that tilt is called magnetic inclination and it varies depending on where  you are on earth.   With the flat earth model the bar magnet field lines will intersect the earth surface at right angles.   So on a flat earth a compass will point up and down, not north and south.

The traditional flat earth model ( see FAQ ) overcame this problem by proposing the earth's magentic field was like a speaker magnet with the south pole all the way around the disk,  But since we know the South Magnetic pole is a single point ( and you can go there yourself to prove it )  the magnetic disk model can't be correct.  So the flat earth model falls flat.

Flat earth does not reflect reality, whereas round earth does.     Draw your own conclusions.

Or, you could actually think for yourself, for a change. 

Quote from: Rayzor on April 30, 2015, 08:48:51 PM

Quote from: jroa on April 30, 2015, 04:32:56 PM

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

You can prove the shape of magnetic fields  to yourself.    Get a bar magnet,  place a piece of paper on top and sprinkle iron filings on the paper,  the iron filings line up with the magnetic  field lines.

Now go out and get a cheap compass,   you will find that it mostly points north,   but if you look closely you will see that the needle doesn't sit quite flat,  ( unless you are on the equator ) that tilt is called magnetic inclination and it varies depending on where  you are on earth.   With the flat earth model the bar magnet field lines will intersect the earth surface at right angles.   So on a flat earth a compass will point up and down, not north and south.

The traditional flat earth model ( see FAQ ) overcame this problem by proposing the earth's magentic field was like a speaker magnet with the south pole all the way around the disk,  But since we know the South Magnetic pole is a single point ( and you can go there yourself to prove it )  the magnetic disk model can't be correct.  So the flat earth model falls flat.

Flat earth does not reflect reality, whereas round earth does.     Draw your own conclusions.

Or, you could actually think for yourself, for a change.

That's a curious response,  considering I just showed you how to do exactly that. ...
What about, you go and buy a bar magnet and do the experiment for yourself,  that way you can prove the magnetic field direction for yourself.   

Quote from: jroa on May 01, 2015, 05:49:33 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on April 30, 2015, 08:48:51 PM

Quote from: jroa on April 30, 2015, 04:32:56 PM

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

You can prove the shape of magnetic fields  to yourself.    Get a bar magnet,  place a piece of paper on top and sprinkle iron filings on the paper,  the iron filings line up with the magnetic  field lines.

Now go out and get a cheap compass,   you will find that it mostly points north,   but if you look closely you will see that the needle doesn't sit quite flat,  ( unless you are on the equator ) that tilt is called magnetic inclination and it varies depending on where  you are on earth.   With the flat earth model the bar magnet field lines will intersect the earth surface at right angles.   So on a flat earth a compass will point up and down, not north and south.

The traditional flat earth model ( see FAQ ) overcame this problem by proposing the earth's magentic field was like a speaker magnet with the south pole all the way around the disk,  But since we know the South Magnetic pole is a single point ( and you can go there yourself to prove it )  the magnetic disk model can't be correct.  So the flat earth model falls flat.

Flat earth does not reflect reality, whereas round earth does.     Draw your own conclusions.

Or, you could actually think for yourself, for a change.

That's a curious response,  considering I just showed you how to do exactly that. ...
What about, you go and buy a bar magnet and do the experiment for yourself,  that way you can prove the magnetic field direction for yourself.   

I'll say again that every magnet is not an axially magnetized bar magnet.
You're saying:
1. Bar magnets act a certain way.
2. Earth acts as a magnet.
Ergo, the Earth acts as a bar magnet.
This is wrong to assume.
Consider instead:
1. Bar magnets act a certain way.
2. Arc magnets can act in a number of different ways, one of them being consistent with how the magnetic field of a flat Earth acts.
3. The Earth acts as a magnet.
Ergo, it is possible that the Earth acts as a series of arc magnets, and possible that it does not act as a simple axially magnetized bar magnet.

The way I see it is this. The earth is a flat disc on an infinte plane that forms the base or floor of the universe. Above the earth the galexy and the univeres rotate on an axis formed between the north pole and the north star Polaras. Between the north pole and the north start a magnetic field is formed. The north star is magnetic. The north pole is actually the magnetic south pole(even the REer's believe this) and the north start is magnetic north. compasses on earth are pulled into this magentic field. The REer's "south pole" does not exist at all becaue there is no certain location on the ice ring that surround the earth for the south pole and if there were a magentic south pole in antarcitca in a flat earth, everything woulf be turned on its head.

I'm sure Occam would disagree.
It's much easier and simpler to agree that the flat Earth's magnetic field acts as a series of arc magnets.

Quote from: Rayzor on May 01, 2015, 06:25:17 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 01, 2015, 05:49:33 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on April 30, 2015, 08:48:51 PM

Quote from: jroa on April 30, 2015, 04:32:56 PM

You mean, that the same text book that tells you the Earth is round tells you the shape of the magnetic flux lines.  Wow, what a coincidence, it must be correct. 

You can prove the shape of magnetic fields  to yourself.    Get a bar magnet,  place a piece of paper on top and sprinkle iron filings on the paper,  the iron filings line up with the magnetic  field lines.

Now go out and get a cheap compass,   you will find that it mostly points north,   but if you look closely you will see that the needle doesn't sit quite flat,  ( unless you are on the equator ) that tilt is called magnetic inclination and it varies depending on where  you are on earth.   With the flat earth model the bar magnet field lines will intersect the earth surface at right angles.   So on a flat earth a compass will point up and down, not north and south.

The traditional flat earth model ( see FAQ ) overcame this problem by proposing the earth's magentic field was like a speaker magnet with the south pole all the way around the disk,  But since we know the South Magnetic pole is a single point ( and you can go there yourself to prove it )  the magnetic disk model can't be correct.  So the flat earth model falls flat.

Flat earth does not reflect reality, whereas round earth does.     Draw your own conclusions.

Or, you could actually think for yourself, for a change.

That's a curious response,  considering I just showed you how to do exactly that. ...
What about, you go and buy a bar magnet and do the experiment for yourself,  that way you can prove the magnetic field direction for yourself.   

I'll say again that every magnet is not an axially magnetized bar magnet.
You're saying:
1. Bar magnets act a certain way.
2. Earth acts as a magnet.
Ergo, the Earth acts as a bar magnet.
This is wrong to assume.
Consider instead:
1. Bar magnets act a certain way.
2. Arc magnets can act in a number of different ways, one of them being consistent with how the magnetic field of a flat Earth acts.
3. The Earth acts as a magnet.
Ergo, it is possible that the Earth acts as a series of arc magnets, and possible that it does not act as a simple axially magnetized bar magnet.

Quote from: BosnianVet1954 on April 30, 2015, 07:12:14 PM

The way I see it is this. The earth is a flat disc on an infinte plane that forms the base or floor of the universe. Above the earth the galexy and the univeres rotate on an axis formed between the north pole and the north star Polaras. Between the north pole and the north start a magnetic field is formed. The north star is magnetic. The north pole is actually the magnetic south pole(even the REer's believe this) and the north start is magnetic north. compasses on earth are pulled into this magentic field. The REer's "south pole" does not exist at all becaue there is no certain location on the ice ring that surround the earth for the south pole and if there were a magentic south pole in antarcitca in a flat earth, everything woulf be turned on its head.

I'm sure Occam would disagree.
It's much easier and simpler to agree that the flat Earth's magnetic field acts as a series of arc magnets.

You didn't read the other thread obviously,   the earth has two magnetic poles,  a north pole and a south pole, both are geographically points on the earth,  the south pole is not spread out like a disk magnet.
By all means play about with disc magnets and combinations to see if you can come up with an arrangement that reflects reality.   
The bar magnet is the best choice since it is the one which most accurately reflects the  earth's observed magnetic field.

You didn't read the other thread obviously,   the earth has two magnetic poles,  a north pole and a south pole, both are geographically points on the earth,  the south pole is not spread out like a disk magnet.
By all means play about with disc magnets and combinations to see if you can come up with an arrangement that reflects reality.   
The bar magnet is the best choice since it is the one which most accurately reflects the  earth's observed magnetic field.

I understand.
However, if you'd bother to read, I'm not talking about a disk magnet.
Also, the south pole is all around the edge of the flat earth.
The south pole exists all around the edge of earth, and the north pole is in the center.
Assuming the magnetic field must follow the same suit, the earth could act as a series of arc magnets.
As in, the magnetic north pole points towards the center, whereas the south pole circles the circumference (outward).
Can we stop talking about bar and disk magnets, please?
What I'm saying is a very simple solution that is consistent with reality. Compasses would function perfectly fine.

Quote from: Rayzor on May 02, 2015, 12:12:16 AM

You didn't read the other thread obviously,   the earth has two magnetic poles,  a north pole and a south pole, both are geographically points on the earth,  the south pole is not spread out like a disk magnet.
By all means play about with disc magnets and combinations to see if you can come up with an arrangement that reflects reality.   
The bar magnet is the best choice since it is the one which most accurately reflects the  earth's observed magnetic field.

I understand.
However, if you'd bother to read, I'm not talking about a disk magnet.
Also, the south pole is all around the edge of the flat earth.
The south pole exists all around the edge of earth, and the north pole is in the center.
Assuming the magnetic field must follow the same suit, the earth could act as a series of arc magnets.
As in, the magnetic north pole points towards the center, whereas the south pole circles the circumference (outward).
Can we stop talking about bar and disk magnets, please?
What I'm saying is a very simple solution that is consistent with reality. Compasses would function perfectly fine.

The thing you keep missing is that the South Magnetic Pole is a point,  not   "all around the edge of a flat earth"   Here is a map that might help understand what I'm talking about.



Putting it as simply as I can, If the earth was flat ,  compasses would be pointing up and down not north and south.   

If you disagree, then please draw a diagram of how you think the earth's magnetic fields are on a flat earth.

Now, if you are going to claim the map is fake,  then I invite you to get a ticket on the next Qantas new years eve  antarctic flight, which does in fact fly over the South Magnetic Pole.

For Christ's sake, compasses work absolutely fine with flat magnets.  Why do you keep saying that they would act different?  Here, this is my flat magnet and compasses.  They are not pointing up. 

For Christ's sake, compasses work absolutely fine with flat magnets.  Why do you keep saying that they would act different?  Here, this is my flat magnet and compasses.  They are not pointing up. 

Never said they wouldn't, what I said is that the flat disk magnet doesn't reflect the earth's magnetic field.   
Can draw a diagram showing how a flat earth explains the earth's magnetic field, with the North and South Poles at a single points.

Quote from: jroa on May 03, 2015, 03:15:04 AM

For Christ's sake, compasses work absolutely fine with flat magnets.  Why do you keep saying that they would act different?  Here, this is my flat magnet and compasses.  They are not pointing up. 

Never said they wouldn't, what I said is that the flat disk magnet doesn't reflect the earth's magnetic field.   
Can draw a diagram showing how a flat earth explains the earth's magnetic field, with the North and South Poles at a single points.

Yes, you did.  Do not lie now.

Putting it as simply as I can, If the earth was flat ,  compasses would be pointing up and down not north and south.   

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 03:19:27 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 03, 2015, 03:15:04 AM

For Christ's sake, compasses work absolutely fine with flat magnets.  Why do you keep saying that they would act different?  Here, this is my flat magnet and compasses.  They are not pointing up. 

Never said they wouldn't, what I said is that the flat disk magnet doesn't reflect the earth's magnetic field.   
Can draw a diagram showing how a flat earth explains the earth's magnetic field, with the North and South Poles at a single points.

Yes, you did.  Do not lie now.

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 02:53:55 AM

Putting it as simply as I can, If the earth was flat ,  compasses would be pointing up and down not north and south.   

You are misquoting me.  The sentence before that and the map contain the key qualifying phrase,  "The thing you keep missing is that the South Magnetic Pole is a point,  not   "all around the edge of a flat earth" "

I can't see how you can draw the magnetic field of a flat earth and not end up with the field lines running vertically through the flat earth, instead of north south as we observe.

Please have a go at a diagram explaining how you think it should work.

Quote from: jroa on May 03, 2015, 03:42:35 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 03:19:27 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 03, 2015, 03:15:04 AM

For Christ's sake, compasses work absolutely fine with flat magnets.  Why do you keep saying that they would act different?  Here, this is my flat magnet and compasses.  They are not pointing up. 

Never said they wouldn't, what I said is that the flat disk magnet doesn't reflect the earth's magnetic field.   
Can draw a diagram showing how a flat earth explains the earth's magnetic field, with the North and South Poles at a single points.

Yes, you did.  Do not lie now.

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 02:53:55 AM

Putting it as simply as I can, If the earth was flat ,  compasses would be pointing up and down not north and south.   

You are misquoting me.  The sentence before that and the map contain the key qualifying phrase,  "The thing you keep missing is that the South Magnetic Pole is a point,  not   "all around the edge of a flat earth" "

I can't see how you can draw the magnetic field of a flat earth and not end up with the field lines running vertically through the flat earth, instead of north south as we observe.

Please have a go at a diagram explaining how you think it should work.

You don't think the magnet in my picture has a single North and South pole?  The fact is that compasses work perfectly well with flat magnets.  If I flip my pictured magnet over, the south pointers on the compasses point towards the center. 

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 03:59:53 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 03, 2015, 03:42:35 AM

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 03:19:27 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 03, 2015, 03:15:04 AM

For Christ's sake, compasses work absolutely fine with flat magnets.  Why do you keep saying that they would act different?  Here, this is my flat magnet and compasses.  They are not pointing up. 

Never said they wouldn't, what I said is that the flat disk magnet doesn't reflect the earth's magnetic field.   
Can draw a diagram showing how a flat earth explains the earth's magnetic field, with the North and South Poles at a single points.

Yes, you did.  Do not lie now.

Quote from: Rayzor on May 03, 2015, 02:53:55 AM

Putting it as simply as I can, If the earth was flat ,  compasses would be pointing up and down not north and south.   

You are misquoting me.  The sentence before that and the map contain the key qualifying phrase,  "The thing you keep missing is that the South Magnetic Pole is a point,  not   "all around the edge of a flat earth" "

I can't see how you can draw the magnetic field of a flat earth and not end up with the field lines running vertically through the flat earth, instead of north south as we observe.

Please have a go at a diagram explaining how you think it should work.

You don't think the magnet in my picture has a single North and South pole?  The fact is that compasses work perfectly well with flat magnets.  If I flip my pictured magnet over, the south pointers on the compasses point towards the center.

So you should have no trouble drawing that diagram.  Just measure the field lines on that magnet.

What diagram?  North pole is in the center on one side of the magnet, south pole is in the center on the other side.  Why do you need for me to draw this for you?  Do I need to draw you a picture of the sun or mountains as well?  What are you not understanding?