The Flat Truth

So basically because the goverment can tap into GPS, and can everyone else, that makes them liars? You're a moron. Why do we take that exit into space? It's hard to go straight up with a rocket, we need to get into orbit first, all those things. You're using a square map of a round globe for that ISS idea. As for your next thing about hairs, do you think there are open holes everywhere or something? And that hairs make machines malfunction?
I lost my caring of a silent, movie maker video.

The video he posted.

Hello jerinism, I see you are new here and besides me making it clear that I am a round earther I haven't had the chance to properly introduce myself.  I am a 17 year old space enthusiast christian, so basically the exact opposite of you, and I am quite knowledgeable about astronomy and physics.  I think it all makes a lot of sense and whatever you don't understand about a round Earth I could help you understand better if you want.  The reason the Earth looks flat is because it's so huge and what we see is exactly what we would expect on a round Earth, and a round Earth doesn't have the holes that FET has like no explanation for sunsets that also explains time zones.  I have also proven on many occasions that space travel is real, sense that is a highly controversial issue around here and I am quite knowledgeable about it.  Just today in fact I posted a reply proving that videos from the ISS are actually made in space, you can find that post here.  I have also on a few occasions made short animations which prove various geometric things about a round Earth and I also use a lot of math.  From what I can tell you are a reasonably open minded guy and you did say in your video that you are interested in debating flat earth, and I would like to do just that.

Quote from: jeranism on April 09, 2015, 09:37:38 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 09, 2015, 08:45:10 PM

Well, flat earthers, don't worry. Around 7 billion or so persons will keep the round earth going round anyway regardless of your notions to the contrary. So enjoy your little fantasy world. You're welcome to it.  Meanwhile the rest of us have to make a living in such fields as the Navy and other maritime services just for one example that depend on maps made from a globe shaped earth and not from any flat earth map of the earth, which do no exist in the first place

http://www.clicknhost.com/u/080415/v4u496yyc.jpg

What do you mean no map? And the maps they use are flat clown. They use the flat Earth map in the military for communication and radar. Do you see globe radar? Oh pardon, do you see any globe besides what your lord and savior- NASA HEIST passes off as Earth. It is comical. You see real life everyday then they show you the blue marble and then you lose your minds. Yeah! Globe! Gravity! Upside Down People and boats going uphill or downhill. And planes flying inverted and upside down.  Then they will say, "Nobody is upside down, there is no up in space, everyone is right side up."

 Oh, the Earth IS flat.  Hmmmmm- I rest my case.

Check out how "flat maps" are made from projections of the globe. The earth is "round" or an "oblate spheroid" technically speaking. Oh , the Earth IS round. Hmmmmm - I rest my case.

The usual "flat earth map" is simply the "Azimuthal Equidistant Projection" of the globe.

Do a little research. Learn something.

All of those photos are from twitter. Great source for reliable info and unmodified images.

Thanks for your introduction. Is it okay if I ask you some questions then?  We can go from there.

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 10, 2015, 12:26:33 PM

Quote from: jeranism on April 09, 2015, 09:37:38 PM

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 09, 2015, 08:45:10 PM

Well, flat earthers, don't worry. Around 7 billion or so persons will keep the round earth going round anyway regardless of your notions to the contrary. So enjoy your little fantasy world. You're welcome to it.  Meanwhile the rest of us have to make a living in such fields as the Navy and other maritime services just for one example that depend on maps made from a globe shaped earth and not from any flat earth map of the earth, which do no exist in the first place

http://www.clicknhost.com/u/080415/v4u496yyc.jpg

What do you mean no map? And the maps they use are flat clown. They use the flat Earth map in the military for communication and radar. Do you see globe radar? Oh pardon, do you see any globe besides what your lord and savior- NASA HEIST passes off as Earth. It is comical. You see real life everyday then they show you the blue marble and then you lose your minds. Yeah! Globe! Gravity! Upside Down People and boats going uphill or downhill. And planes flying inverted and upside down.  Then they will say, "Nobody is upside down, there is no up in space, everyone is right side up."

 Oh, the Earth IS flat.  Hmmmmm- I rest my case.

Check out how "flat maps" are made from projections of the globe. The earth is "round" or an "oblate spheroid" technically speaking. Oh , the Earth IS round. Hmmmmm - I rest my case.

The usual "flat earth map" is simply the "Azimuthal Equidistant Projection" of the globe.

Do a little research. Learn something.

I love that all these guys are here. What would ever compel an ex-Navy guy, who knows the earth is round to have 2253 posts in the Flat Earth forum?  It is so funny to me. You guys are hilarious

A suggestion to iWitness

Take your "ancient maps" to the office of any steamship company, airline company or navy information office and see what they think  of them compared to their modern maps. Let us know what you find.

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 10, 2015, 12:19:45 PM

A suggestion to iWitness

Take your "ancient maps" to the office of any steamship company, airline company or navy information office and see what they think  of them compared to their modern maps. Let us know what you find.

Lol great suggestion NOT! Like the idiots sitting at the front desk will know anything about the shape of the earth, space travel and ancient history. I got a suggestion for you Googleotomy.... get a freaking life!

EVERYONE knows that modern maps are NOT accurate... which is why they turn-off airplane tracking in the southern hemisphere, and use "magnetic declination" aka bullcrap to fix the errors in map routes.

I bet they would know more than you do.

The motions of the sun, moon and other solar system planets can be calculated using a geocentric model (the earth is at the center) or using a heliocentric model (the sun is at the center). Both work

You can't be so stupid.

EVERYONE knows that modern maps are NOT accurate... which is why they turn-off airplane tracking in the southern hemisphere,

Quote from: iWitness on April 12, 2015, 10:53:31 AM

EVERYONE knows that modern maps are NOT accurate... which is why they turn-off airplane tracking in the southern hemisphere,

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 10, 2015, 12:19:45 PM

A suggestion to iWitness

Take your "ancient maps" to the office of any steamship company, airline company or navy information office and see what they think  of them compared to their modern maps. Let us know what you find.

Lol great suggestion NOT! Like the idiots sitting at the front desk will know anything about the shape of the earth, space travel and ancient history. I got a suggestion for you Googleotomy.... get a freaking life!

EVERYONE knows that modern maps are NOT accurate... which is why they turn-off airplane tracking in the southern hemisphere, and use "magnetic declination" aka bullcrap to fix the errors in map routes.

Quote from: Dinosaur Neil on April 12, 2015, 05:45:23 PM

Quote from: iWitness on April 12, 2015, 10:53:31 AM

EVERYONE knows that modern maps are NOT accurate... which is why they turn-off airplane tracking in the southern hemisphere,

t3h win sir. t3h win.

Quote from: FalseProphet on April 12, 2015, 01:12:53 PM

You can't be so stupid.

Would you put money on that?

Quote from: jeranism on April 11, 2015, 08:15:20 AM

Thanks for your introduction. Is it okay if I ask you some questions then?  We can go from there.

Yeah, ask away.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on April 11, 2015, 11:41:51 AM

Quote from: jeranism on April 11, 2015, 08:15:20 AM

Thanks for your introduction. Is it okay if I ask you some questions then?  We can go from there.

Yeah, ask away.

Fantastic...

Okay first.  Can you help me understand the magic ball better. I know what we were all taught in school but I no longer just accept things said to me by authority figures or people who have been caught lying or not performing in a way that would lead one to find them credible.

So, I am in North America and I am standing upright. Measurable. So, can you help me understand what is going on in Australia please? Are they standing upright? Or are they upside down?

----Before you answer... please do not use the standard answer of asking me if I understand that there is no up or down in space. That is not a true statement. I do understand the notion that they could easily be reversed. Polaris could be the South star. I get that totally... but there is obviously an up and down in space. The North star always is above the North Pole so for this question, that must remain true. Again, I ask what is going on then in Australia if I am upright. The North star is then under the feet of an Australian?

Quote from: jeranism on April 13, 2015, 01:14:06 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on April 11, 2015, 11:41:51 AM

Quote from: jeranism on April 11, 2015, 08:15:20 AM

Thanks for your introduction. Is it okay if I ask you some questions then?  We can go from there.

Yeah, ask away.

Fantastic...

Okay first.  Can you help me understand the magic ball better. I know what we were all taught in school but I no longer just accept things said to me by authority figures or people who have been caught lying or not performing in a way that would lead one to find them credible.

So, I am in North America and I am standing upright. Measurable. So, can you help me understand what is going on in Australia please? Are they standing upright? Or are they upside down?

----Before you answer... please do not use the standard answer of asking me if I understand that there is no up or down in space. That is not a true statement. I do understand the notion that they could easily be reversed. Polaris could be the South star. I get that totally... but there is obviously an up and down in space. The North star always is above the North Pole so for this question, that must remain true. Again, I ask what is going on then in Australia if I am upright. The North star is then under the feet of an Australian?

Well, I am an Australian, so I'll interject if I may.
Okay.

"obviously an up and down in space" Really? How would one measure this? What would be the reference point?

"what is going on in Australia if I am upright" Normal stuff I suppose. A bit more drinking maybe. What is your point?
I haven't actually seen the north star, so yeah, maybe it is indeed under my feet.

End note- My understanding of the term "up" is that direction which runs contrary to the downwards pull of gravity. So I am upright just as much as you are.

So, I am in North America and I am standing upright. Measurable. So, can you help me understand what is going on in Australia please? Are they standing upright? Or are they upside down?

Fantastic...

Okay first.  Can you help me understand the magic ball better. I know what we were all taught in school but I no longer just accept things said to me by authority figures or people who have been caught lying or not performing in a way that would lead one to find them credible.

So, I am in North America and I am standing upright. Measurable. So, can you help me understand what is going on in Australia please? Are they standing upright? Or are they upside down?

----Before you answer... please do not use the standard answer of asking me if I understand that there is no up or down in space. That is not a true statement. I do understand the notion that they could easily be reversed. Polaris could be the South star. I get that totally... but there is obviously an up and down in space. The North star always is above the North Pole so for this question, that must remain true. Again, I ask what is going on then in Australia if I am upright. The North star is then under the feet of an Australian?

I do believe iWitness has once more slipped out on us . That is pretty stupid in itself ?

And it is my astute observation that IMHO it is iWitness who needs to Quote "Get a freaking life." Unquote (From iWitness himself)

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2015, 09:54:38 PM

I do believe iWitness has once more slipped out on us . That is pretty stupid in itself ?

And it is my astute observation that IMHO it is iWitness who needs to Quote "Get a freaking life." Unquote (From iWitness himself)

Look, I know you're secretly in love with me... it's obvious. When you work long hours as a shill, it's not uncommon for your mind to play tricks on you. Sure, you've been given orders to harass me, find out everything you can, but let me tell you something... you will be defeated in the end. If not by me, then by the Word of the Lord that will burn you like straw on the day of His Coming.

Do you see me chasing Round-earthers around and harassing them with private messages and replying to all of their posts? Of course not, because I stand firm in my beliefs and know the Truth. I post my thoughts out there for those that are interested, and if they have questions I will answer them.

Don't take it personal. I have a purpose to fulfill on this earth. Half of it is on the internet debating the likes of you, and the other half is going out into the world and spreading the Gospel among the lost sheep.

I am really sorry that you are in the situation that you are in. Either by choice or by force. Because there is no way you can be here on this site for as long as you have, and still be blind to the truth. But when you realize that He who lives in you is greater than he who lives in the world, you will have nothing to fear.

God's Wrath Against Humanity

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The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.