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« on: November 14, 2006, 04:56:20 AM »
I've been looking through the forums, and one thing bugs me about this whole FE conspiracy.

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Q: "What is the motive behind this conspiracy?"

A: The motive is unknown.


There is no reason for the covering up of this.

All other major conspiracys have a reason (such as the moon landings, the twin towers, etc) but yours doesn't. Why?
Why can't you say why governments would hide the fact that the earth is flat?

Can someone care to explain this to me?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 05:14:55 AM »
Money and power.


Thats what they say it is. Exactly how lying about the earths shape gives them power is not yet explained.
he Engineer and GeoGuy are douchebags. Period.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2006, 05:31:24 AM »
Quote from: "Joseph Bloom"
Money and power.


Thats what they say it is. Exactly how lying about the earths shape gives them power is not yet explained.


But how the hell do they make money? They've spent billions on "fabricated" evidence to prove the earth is flat (such as the space program), wouldn't have it been cheaper to say "the earth is flat"?
Raa:
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=6200.0

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2006, 07:18:49 AM »
They don't know how it makes them money, or gives them power either. All they will say is that it does.

I'm sure it is linked to the Australia Conspiracy, which is actually bigger and much more important than the Flat Earth Conspiracy.

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 08:38:17 AM »
Another potential argument is that if people know that the Earth is flat, there is a chance that the Other side of the disc will be explored. Obviously the government is hiding their TRUE SECRET on the other side of the Earth.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 11:29:06 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
Another potential argument is that if people know that the Earth is flat, there is a chance that the Other side of the disc will be explored.

Not really, as it would be very difficult to get there and back.


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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 11:30:13 AM »
Perhaps a massive submarine, attached to a giant Chain?
Or perhaps rockets.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 11:33:49 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
Perhaps a massive submarine, attached to a giant Chain?
Or perhaps rockets.

Submarines work in water, hence the name.  There is no water surrounding the earth.

Rockets could do it, however, they would have to provide continuous thrust to maintain a +/- 9.81 m/s^2 acceleration or they would run the risk of never getting there or back.


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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 11:35:03 AM »
Not so difficult. All they have to do is to anchor a chain of hooks (like mountain climbers do), stretch a cable across, and install a funicular (spelling?) to travel wherever they want.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 11:35:03 AM »
You wouldn't necesarily need to get back. Unmanned space probes could be used.

And i say submarines in the sense that it would be a manned craft specialising in unoxygenated environments.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2006, 11:36:12 AM »
Quote from: "TheEngineer"

Submarines work in water, hence the name.


Strange, several "Marines" i know of and seen, don't know how to swim.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2006, 11:37:35 AM »
TheEngineer is, however, right in this case, submarine means underwater literally.

From a psycological point of view, everyone will want to know what is Underneith.
If i was hiding something Underneith, the best way to keep it safe would be to persuade everyone that Underneith does not exist.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2006, 12:45:48 PM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
If i was hiding something Underneith, the best way to keep it safe would be to persuade everyone that Underneith does not exist.


First thing you've said so far that actually makes sense.  Congrats!
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2006, 12:48:23 PM »
Hmmm, im not sure if that's realy a compliment or not.....

It seems like a reasonable motive to me, I can't see how a government would make money or power from lying about the shape of the Earth
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2006, 04:19:18 PM »
Oliwoli wrote:
Another potential argument is that if people know that the Earth is flat, there is a chance that the Other side of the disc will be explored. Obviously the government is hiding their TRUE SECRET on the other side of the Earth.
THANK YOU! YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE ENTIRE SITE WHO HAS GIVEN ME A MOTIVE FOR THE CONSPIRACY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH I ASK! i needed a motive to believe the conspiracy, and while it is still far fetched, it is much more convincing than "there just is"

Yeah, but its still bollocks though. have you read their crap theory on why the earth can't be round. its all based on grains of sand can't stay on a beach ball unless its at top of the ball. Talk about having no knowledge of science!!!

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 07:44:48 PM »
Quote from: "samxool"
Oliwoli wrote:
Another potential argument is that if people know that the Earth is flat, there is a chance that the Other side of the disc will be explored. Obviously the government is hiding their TRUE SECRET on the other side of the Earth.
THANK YOU! YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE ENTIRE SITE WHO HAS GIVEN ME A MOTIVE FOR THE CONSPIRACY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH I ASK! i needed a motive to believe the conspiracy, and while it is still far fetched, it is much more convincing than "there just is"

Yeah, but its still bollocks though. have you read their crap theory on why the earth can't be round. its all based on grains of sand can't stay on a beach ball unless its at top of the ball. Talk about having no knowledge of science!!!


I'd like to see them make those trips without anyone knowing.
atttttttup was right when he said joseph bloom is right, The Engineer is a douchebag.

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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2006, 09:19:13 PM »
Funny. Using "FE" and "Reason" in the same post.
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0

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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2006, 08:56:08 AM »
Well, now these is one less argument for you to use against us.
If other FEers dis/agree with my reason for conspiricy, please make it known
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2006, 09:43:02 AM »
So..., a side effect of convincing the general population that the Earth is round is that it prevents the exploration of the underside by entities not in on the conspiracy. Sounds plausible to me...
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2006, 09:47:35 AM »
Not necesarily as a side effect, it could be the entire reason that the government persuaded us it was round
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2006, 09:58:01 AM »
I believe you've solved the riddle! This should be added to the FAQ.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2006, 10:08:40 AM »
Quote from: "Jie"
I believe you've solved the riddle! This should be added to the FAQ.

This is certainly a plausible reason, but it's not necessarily the only plausible reason, and there's no evidence for it. It could be mentioned as a possible theory, but shouldn't be construed to be the correct explanation.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2006, 10:11:12 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
Another potential argument is that if people know that the Earth is flat, there is a chance that the Other side of the disc will be explored. Obviously the government is hiding their TRUE SECRET on the other side of the Earth.


What secret would that be? The fact that Earth is flat? :p
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2006, 10:13:34 AM »
As of yet, the secret is open to debate. Obviously if empirical proof was found for the TRUE SECRET's nature it would mean that the conspsiricy has failed.
As for the FAQ addition, more debate is definately needed. I think it is more usefal than the "money and power" explanation though.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2006, 10:15:44 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
As of yet, the secret is open to debate. Obviously if empirical proof was found for the TRUE SECRET's nature it would mean that the conspsiricy has failed.
As for the FAQ addition, more debate is definately needed. I think it is more usefal than the "money and power" explanation though.


Um, explain to me how the government could keep their "secret" on the other side of the flat Earth? With the speed in which the Earth is travelling, you now.. It would be pretty difficult, yes?
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2006, 10:17:41 AM »
It could be that there is some other landmass attached to the underside of the disc, in a sort of Zepelin arrangement.
Or it could be that the SECRET is simply affixed to the underside.
It depends on the nature of the SECRET
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2006, 10:18:38 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
As of yet, the secret is open to debate. Obviously if empirical proof was found for the TRUE SECRET's nature it would mean that the conspsiricy has failed.
As for the FAQ addition, more debate is definately needed. I think it is more usefal than the "money and power" explanation though.

Perhaps they're using the underside of the earth to collect natural resources, or else to perform highly dangerous experiments. It seems unlikely that they would be using it as a secret location to hide something that could be hidden elsewhere, as the logistics must be nightmarish, but they could be hiding something too large to be hidden underground, or which emitted too much radiation or something.
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2006, 10:20:09 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
It could be that there is some other landmass attached to the underside of the disc, in a sort of Zepelin arrangement.
Or it could be that the SECRET is simply affixed to the underside.
It depends on the nature of the SECRET


What's the difference in jumping to this kind of conclusions before you are even aware of if there even is a conspiracy or not?
And what's the point of writing "secret" with big letters?..
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0

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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2006, 10:22:49 AM »
We needed a motive, and i find this motive makes sense to me.
It just adds another peice of the jigsaw.

The capitals draw attention to the fact that it is some higher truth.
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2006, 10:26:02 AM »
Quote from: "Oliwoli"
We needed a motive, and i find this motive makes sense to me.
It just adds another peice of the jigsaw.

The capitals draw attention to the fact that it is some higher truth.


You need a motive. So you create one.

And, it's not of any "higher truth", it's simply an idea of yours that you have made up on your own, and it won't come closer to the truth just because you capitalize every letter.
quot;Earth is flat because there is a conspiracy, and there is a conspiracy because the Earth is flat" - Makes sense, duh.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=2955.0