Air Resistance

Lets say I drop a bowling ball and a feather at the same time, with gravity we have air resistance which explains why the feather will hit the ground at a later time then the bowling ball. The FE theory states that the earth is constantly accelerating upwards creating the effect that most people think of as gravity. But if the earth is constantly accelerating upwards how do you explain items such as feathers with greater surface area reaching the ground later. Wouldn't the earth catch up to a feather at the same time as any other object?

Quote from: Adelphius on March 11, 2015, 09:16:29 AM

Lets say I drop a bowling ball and a feather at the same time, with gravity we have air resistance which explains why the feather will hit the ground at a later time then the bowling ball. The FE theory states that the earth is constantly accelerating upwards creating the effect that most people think of as gravity. But if the earth is constantly accelerating upwards how do you explain items such as feathers with greater surface area reaching the ground later. Wouldn't the earth catch up to a feather at the same time as any other object?

Good question. There's the more pertinent question as to how the air stays on the Earth in the first place if it's constantly accelerating.

Well if we were to assume an upwards-accelerating flat earth that somehow managed to keep air on top of it, air would be moving up with the flat earth so the aerodynamic situation in the two scenarios would be the same, right?

Quote from: neimoka on March 11, 2015, 09:34:00 AM

Well if we were to assume an upwards-accelerating flat earth that somehow managed to keep air on top of it, air would be moving up with the flat earth so the aerodynamic situation in the two scenarios would be the same, right?

Is the whole universe full of air in this flat Earth idea? If not what stops the air on Earth dissipating?

The earth is accelerating upwards and is pushing the air up with it.

Quote from: Pongo on March 11, 2015, 11:52:01 AM

The earth is accelerating upwards and is pushing the air up with it.

This is just a personal opinion Pongo.  We need an accredited citation to support your claim.

You've just invited Jrowesceptimaticalt to come in and name aether as the thing that holds it in. Except that alt claims air doesn't exist - so he'll log in as Tausami Vauxhall to do it.

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Are people really defending this argument? I mean, the Earth's round, but there are some ways that work at showing that, and some that don't. This is very much in the latter category.
Scepti has the ice dome, completely containing the air. Multiple people have the ice wall high enough to contain the atmosphere. Vauxhall has air that probably teleports from one side of the Earth to the other. JRowe just doesn't have air.

Air? Teleports? What the hell are you even talking about? I feel like you are missing important details in our theories... maybe that's why you don't understand them? 

Quote from: Vauxhall on March 11, 2015, 12:29:12 PM

Air? Teleports? What the hell are you even talking about? I feel like you are missing important details in our theories... maybe that's why you don't understand them? 

So, your 'instantaneous aetheric transmission' does not apply to air?

Wait, are you saying that the atmosphere itself teleports through the aether? If so, I'm not sure about that. I know that solid matter can be teleported, but I'm not sure about air. It would be interesting to test.

Quote from: Vauxhall on March 11, 2015, 12:42:02 PM

Wait, are you saying that the atmosphere itself teleports through the aether? If so, I'm not sure about that. I know that solid matter can be teleported, but I'm not sure about air. It would be interesting to test.

That's what I'm saying. Hence the air teleporting. If you can't come up with an exception for gases, might as well add it to your theory: it seems the best you've got for an answer (as clearly any wall wouldn't ascend far enough to contain the atmosphere, and also allow planes, which you've said do go over the edge).

Damn, Jane. I underestimated you. I just might adopt this idea of yours, because it does make a lot of sense. Here I was thinking that the aetheric wall kept the atmosphere in... but it would work just as easily if the air simply teleported through the wall, making escape into space impossible.

Quote from: Vauxhall on March 11, 2015, 12:48:41 PM

Damn, Jane. I underestimated you. I just might adopt this idea of yours, because it does make a lot of sense. Here I was thinking that the aetheric wall kept the atmosphere in... but it would work just as easily if the air simply teleported through the wall, making escape into space impossible.

Why would it stop air and not planes/people? I assumed you already explained it like that, hence why I said so: seems a natural consequence.
You still need an actual mechanism or explanation for transmission, mind you.

There is nothing in the laws of physics that prevents teleportation of matter. Small scale teleportation has already been achieved in labs.

Quote from: BiJane on March 11, 2015, 12:54:18 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on March 11, 2015, 12:48:41 PM

Damn, Jane. I underestimated you. I just might adopt this idea of yours, because it does make a lot of sense. Here I was thinking that the aetheric wall kept the atmosphere in... but it would work just as easily if the air simply teleported through the wall, making escape into space impossible.

Why would it stop air and not planes/people? I assumed you already explained it like that, hence why I said so: seems a natural consequence.
You still need an actual mechanism or explanation for transmission, mind you.

There is nothing in the laws of physics that prevents teleportation of matter. Small scale teleportation has already been achieved in labs.

Got any links on teleportation of matter? I'm pretty sure only information of a spin state has been successfully teleported.

Quote from: neimoka on March 11, 2015, 01:17:09 PM

Got any links on teleportation of matter? I'm pretty sure only information of a spin state has been successfully teleported.

http://bit.ly/1EZ2cwA

quantum physics, researchers teleport data an unprecedented distance...

Quantum teleportation is a process by which quantum information...

In quantum teleportation, quantum information can be transmitted

If you accept the atom theory (that we're all made of atoms), then you can easily come to the conclusion that if atoms can be teleported (which is what has been done), then beings made of atoms can be teleported as well. Of course, this is all theoretical.

Or, have you changed your opinion about atoms? Are we made of atoms or not?


Like I said before, nothing in the laws of physics prevents teleportation. Atoms have been teleported if you accept these findings.

Like I said before, nothing in the laws of physics prevents teleportation. Atoms have been teleported if you accept these findings.

Not entirely true. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle ensures you can't know the details of what it is you're teleporting: you can manage it with quantum particles (eg: photons) due to entanglement, but to do that on a large scale, and do so without killing the person you're teleporting, and to top it off, do so via a natural process with no oversight...

You mean to say that you do not have a source for teleportation of matter? I simply asked if you could link to a source saying so, I certainly have never seen a paper claiming successful teleportation of atoms.

Quote from: neimoka on March 11, 2015, 02:08:10 PM

You mean to say that you do not have a source for teleportation of matter? I simply asked if you could link to a source saying so, I certainly have never seen a paper claiming successful teleportation of atoms.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2643332/Beam-Scientists-sat-teleportation-possible-transfer-atoms.html

What we are teleporting is the state of a particle

Prof Hanson's team showed for the first time that it was possible to teleport information encoded into sub-atomic particles between two points three metres apart