Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon

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Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« on: February 20, 2015, 08:30:47 PM »


or not...

These mirages also happen on the sea:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_%28mirage%29

But the cars and ships aren't going over the horizon... they are simply vanishing out of your sight due to atmospheric density and limited eyesight range... continuing on in the same straight path as before.





This video shows with an extra zoom lens that ships are not disappearing over the horizon:

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And this one goes even further:

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 08:58:56 PM »
Yes, mirages are well known. Do you have a point?
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 09:37:57 PM »
Point is the earth is flat and nothing is "going over the horizon". Ships and cars just get smaller and smaller until you can't see them anymore. It's called "vanishing point" and is also the reason railroad tracks appear to intersect when they do not.

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 09:51:36 PM »
I don't know if you're acting stupid, but do you understand how tiny you are compared to the earth? I understand most of you don't understand basic physics, but you are not going to notice a car going over a horizon. You are only going to visually see it get smaller. Nothing else. The whole "vanishing point" is a visual illusion due to the range of human vision and massive size of the earth. Honestly, this is more of the dumber shit I've seen here. Please come up with something better.

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 09:53:02 PM »
Point is the earth is flat and nothing is "going over the horizon". Ships and cars just get smaller and smaller until you can't see them anymore. It's called "vanishing point" and is also the reason railroad tracks appear to intersect when they do not.


Sure is strange how the clouds have no problem sinking to the earth.
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 10:43:56 PM »
Yes, mirages are well known. Do you have a point?

I'm guessing the only point that iWitness is making patently clear is that he has absolutely no idea as to how or why mirages occur.  I'm also guessing he failed high-school science, as his knowledge of even basic scientific tenets is sadly lacking.  Then again, if he's only a teenager, he may not have yet studied science at any upper level.  Who can know?

His constant references to the Christian bible are also indicative of adolescence;  many kids are indoctrinated from an early age with the myths, lies and deceits of their parents' holy books.

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 09:52:42 AM »
His constant references to the Christian bible are also indicative of adolescence;  many kids are indoctrinated from an early age with the myths, lies and deceits of their parents' holy books.

Here is the difference between Christianity "indoctrination" and your pseudo-science indoctrination...

Parents take their children to church and teach them about the world's oldest collection of historical records. Your religion, on the other hand, strips children from their homes and forces them to learn about evolution/big bang theory 8 hours a day for 10+ years. And the Bible is BANNED from your indoctrination centers... so who is doing the real indoctrination?
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2015, 09:54:56 AM »
Watch the whole video and tell me ships dip below the horizon:

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 10:09:55 AM »
Sure is strange how the clouds have no problem sinking to the earth.

Lol at guy who thinks you can see that far:



Clouds look pretty flat to me...
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 10:11:24 AM »
Sure is strange how the clouds have no problem sinking to the earth.

Lol at guy who thinks you can see that far:



Clouds look pretty flat to me...

Fortunately the shapes of clouds have no direct bearing on the shape of the Earth.
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 10:12:58 AM »
The guy was alluding that the clouds were curving downwards with the shape of the earth which is not true.
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 10:22:26 AM »
I don't know if you're acting stupid, but do you understand how tiny you are compared to the earth? I understand most of you don't understand basic physics, but you are not going to notice a car going over a horizon. You are only going to visually see it get smaller. Nothing else. The whole "vanishing point" is a visual illusion due to the range of human vision and massive size of the earth. Honestly, this is more of the dumber shit I've seen here. Please come up with something better.

Thank you troll. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is precisely what I am talking about. Did no one else catch what this troll just tried to pull? SERIOUSLY? No one?

The guy just said that we are so tiny that you can't possibly notice a car going over the horizon. But this is the same exact argument they try to use to prove the Earth is a Ball! They say you CAN see ships going over the horizon, but it's obviously not true. The earth is flat and everyone knows it.

If the earth is a ball then the ground HAS TO CURVE sooner or later. But the problem is you can only see so far. Maybe 30-50 miles and sometimes more in the right atmospheric conditions. But, that is plenty far enough to prove the ground doesn't curve, because if the earth is a 25,000 mile circumference sphere the ground should curve downwards 600 feet over 30 miles! But it does not.

The first photo from space PROVES the earth is flat people open your EYES:

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 10:53:11 AM »
The guy was alluding that the clouds were curving downwards with the shape of the earth which is not true.
which they do. Why do you think they are at the horizon? A flat earth cloud would follow the perspective you were trying to show, therefore they wouldn't seem to touch the ground.
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 10:55:55 AM »
His constant references to the Christian bible are also indicative of adolescence;  many kids are indoctrinated from an early age with the myths, lies and deceits of their parents' holy books.

Here is the difference between Christianity "indoctrination" and your pseudo-science indoctrination...

Parents take their children to church and teach them about the world's oldest collection of historical records. Your religion, on the other hand, strips children from their homes and forces them to learn about evolution/big bang theory 8 hours a day for 10+ years. And the Bible is BANNED from your indoctrination centers... so who is doing the real indoctrination?

Are these the same "indoctrination centers" where you are taught math?  Schools don't ban the bible, they simply don't teach any religious stuff so they don't force any beliefs on anyone.  If you have a bible in school then nobody will confiscate it.  I am a Christian by the way.
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 10:56:27 AM »
iWitness,

These trolls are epical!

Do we really need better FET argument than this  : http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62884.msg1662799#msg1662799

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2015, 10:58:41 AM »
iWitness,

These trolls are epical!

Do we really need better FET argument than this  : http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62884.msg1662799#msg1662799

You have to see this video : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
I suggest you to watch this video, also : " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
I can post random stuff too. Plane flight times that are impossible on a flat earth.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62857.msg1662682#msg1662682
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2015, 11:33:33 AM »
I don't know if you're acting stupid, but do you understand how tiny you are compared to the earth? I understand most of you don't understand basic physics, but you are not going to notice a car going over a horizon. You are only going to visually see it get smaller. Nothing else. The whole "vanishing point" is a visual illusion due to the range of human vision and massive size of the earth. Honestly, this is more of the dumber shit I've seen here. Please come up with something better.

Thank you troll. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is precisely what I am talking about. Did no one else catch what this troll just tried to pull? SERIOUSLY? No one?

The guy just said that we are so tiny that you can't possibly notice a car going over the horizon. But this is the same exact argument they try to use to prove the Earth is a Ball! They say you CAN see ships going over the horizon, but it's obviously not true. The earth is flat and everyone knows it.

If the earth is a ball then the ground HAS TO CURVE sooner or later. But the problem is you can only see so far. Maybe 30-50 miles and sometimes more in the right atmospheric conditions. But, that is plenty far enough to prove the ground doesn't curve, because if the earth is a 25,000 mile circumference sphere the ground should curve downwards 600 feet over 30 miles! But it does not.

The first photo from space PROVES the earth is flat people open your EYES:


Don't worry about them. We can see what their game is. You're doing a sterling job, keep it up.

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2015, 04:27:33 PM »
iWitness,

These trolls are epical!

Do we really need better FET argument than this  : http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62884.msg1662799#msg1662799
Yeah, you really do.

Toot your own horn much?
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2015, 06:05:56 PM »
All the crazies are hitting his thread hard aren't they?
I have 13 [academic qualifications] actually. I'll leave it up to you to guess which, or simply call me a  liar. Either is fine.

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2015, 06:18:51 PM »
All the crazies are hitting his thread hard aren't they?

The crazies are getting a whole lot crazier too...I really think Sceptic has had some sort of breakdown, to lead to his (thier?) increase in aggressiveness in posting.
The Earth is a globe, its not flat in anyway so to continually look for ever more ridiculous ways to prove something that is fundamentally wrong jsut has to be sign of imblance in the head area......

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2015, 06:22:02 PM »
Don't worry about them. We can see what their game is. You're doing a sterling job, keep it up.

As you know - no matter what is said to these people, they always use any excuse to try and get out of it.

Yeah, I mean when you resort to using math you must be desperate right?
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2015, 08:01:35 AM »
Here is the difference between Christianity "indoctrination" and your pseudo-science indoctrination...

Parents take their children to church and teach them about the world's oldest collection of historical records. Your religion, on the other hand, strips children from their homes and forces them to learn about evolution/big bang theory 8 hours a day for 10+ years. And the Bible is BANNED from your indoctrination centers... so who is doing the real indoctrination?

LOL... so much, and so wrong.  Where do I start?

Firstly, as an atheist, I have no "religion".  Simply put, atheism is the acceptance that there is no credible scientific or factually reliable evidence for the existence of a god, gods or the supernatural.  Atheists have no holy book, no holy men, no temples of worship, and no rites or dogma to adhere to.  Atheist parents have no need "take their children" to a specific building every Sunday and listen to a mere mortal talk about what they should or should not be doing.  Atheists think for themselves, and make their own decisions based on morals and ethics and science, rather than the ludicrously outdated writings in a book cobbled together by a group of disparate, ill-educated desert nomads—with not one scientist amongst the lot 2,500 years ago.  A book that's not once been updated in all that time; a book that claims that animals can talk; that dolphins, whales and porpoises are fish; that unicorns exist; that the sun and the moon physically move across the sky; that virgin birth and resurrection are possible, as just a few examples of its erroneous content.

The Abrahamic bible is a "history book" relevant only to the period it was written; it's certainly not a "collection of [valid] historical records".  It's a collection of things of a (then unbeknown) scientific nature that were simply beyond the comprehension of people 2,000 years ago, and which were grossly misinterpreted.  The great flood being one major geophysical misrepresentation—and which has never been corrected to this day.

I have no idea what you mean when you claim atheism (not our religion) "strips children form their homes"?  As a theist do you subscribe solely to home learning, or are you simply using the phrase as an unnecessary pejorative?  Do your children, or your friends' children not attend schools?  Or do you consider all formal schooling as "forcing" erroneous, unfounded, spurious information upon childrens' minds?  Do you truly think that mathematics, language, history, biology, physics, chemistry, philosophy, geography etc are a waste of time during that 8-hour school-day?  Your claim that students spend the entire 8 hours being force-fed the theories of the so-called big bang and evolution are truly absurd!

It's also quite funny that you refer to schools as "indoctrination" centres, but you're apparently happy to accept churches are not, and that they also have a more relevant, worthwhile and purposeful task in educating our children.  I can only challenge you to cite any evidence at all that supports this ludicrous claim.  Show me someone educated solely in a church, and I'll show you a person of questionable ethics, distorted moral values, scientific ignorance, false modesty, hypocrisy, poorly developed powers of logic, sexual and clinical naivety, excessive combativeness, childish gullibility, and bigotry.  You yourself tick quite a few of those boxes in fact.

And could you please confirm that as you're a practicing Christian, do you have a copy of the Torah, the Qur'an, theBhagavad-Gita, or the Yasna available for reading in your church?  Or are they banned?  I only ask because you'll find each of those in any non-religious or state school library; they're in no way banned.

Finally, religion relies almost totally on indoctrination.  Indoctrination is defined as "instruction in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc, especially to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view" and "to teach (a person or group of people) systematically to accept doctrines, especially uncritically".  Sounds more like preaching than teaching to me.

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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2015, 08:45:02 AM »
Parrots can talk... so what's your point?
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2015, 08:54:11 AM »
Parrots can talk... so what's your point?

No they can't; they can mimic human voices - So apart from being a typical low content post you are also wrong, which isn't unusual for you is it?

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2015, 09:14:55 AM »
And what about the city of Tyre, which was commanded to be destroyed by the Lord.

It was written in Ezekiel 26:

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In the eleventh month of the twelfth year, on the first day of the month, the word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, because Tyre has said of Jerusalem, ‘Aha! The gate to the nations is broken, and its doors have swung open to me; now that she lies in ruins I will prosper,’ therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Tyre, and I will bring many nations against you, like the sea casting up its waves. They will destroy the walls of Tyre and pull down her towers; I will scrape away her rubble and make her a bare rock. Out in the sea she will become a place to spread fishnets, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord. She will become plunder for the nations, 6 and her settlements on the mainland will be ravaged by the sword. Then they will know that I am the Lord.

And even today, the city of Tyre lays in ruins, where fishermen spread their nets:





See, Ausgeoff you just can't handle the Truth. You call the Lord a Liar, and claim to be all-knowing while you know very little. You can't even explain how a tiny seed turns into a Giant tree, yet deny the existence of God.

What about the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah still visible on the Dead Sea to this day?



Complete with millions of 99% pure sulfur brimstone hail embedded in the ashes.



Unexplainable by modern scientists, volcanic sulfur only 40% pure and in crystalline form.

See the whole documentary for yourself:



So get out of here with your CRAP ausgeoff. You don't have it in you. You are blinded by the ways of this world. You deny the truth when it is plain for all to see. You say the Bible is out of date, written by desert nomads... then how did they know about the destruction of Tyre? How did the prophet Daniel know about the destruction of the Babylonian empire, and the Persian/Mede dual empires?

Keep telling yourself that you are open-minded when you believe what every other close-minded indoctrinated person believes. It is "acceptable" by society to believe in Big bang theory and evolution so you aren't impressing no one.

Tell me ausgeoff.... what created the Big Bang? The infinite ball of matter before it exploded? Where did water come from? How come complex organs like the Eye and Brain are practically the same throughout the animal kingdom? What about DNA? Even single-cell organisms have DNA which is infinitely complex. How can you prove the half-life of Carbon has remained constant since the beginning of time?

Do you not see how ridiculous big bang theory/evolution is?

Is it not obvious that every single thing in this world has a purpose and meaning?

Does intelligence not exist?

Where did intelligence come from then?

Where does your conscience from?

Your conscience testifies that what you do is wrong. The law of the Lord is written in everyone's hearts and you are without excuse. You know what you do is wrong and do it anyway. Your own words will condemn you on the day of Judgement.

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“Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
Matthew 12:33-37
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2015, 10:07:37 AM »

Tell me ausgeoff.... what created the Big Bang?
Scientists are trying to find the answer.
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The infinite ball of matter before it exploded?
Wasn't infinite.
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Where did water come from?
Hydrogen and oxygen. Stars fuse light elements into heavier elements.
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How come complex organs like the Eye and Brain are practically the same throughout the animal kingdom?

Mammals. Mammalia is a class under scientific classification. But eye's and brains are not the exact same.
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What about DNA? Even single-cell organisms have DNA which is infinitely complex.
Scientists have a good understanding of DNA.
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How can you prove the half-life of Carbon has remained constant since the beginning of time?
Carbon hasn't been around since the beginning of time or the universe.

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Do you not see how ridiculous big bang theory/evolution is?
I can see how people who don't understand it think it's ridiculous.

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Is it not obvious that every single thing in this world has a purpose and meaning?
Why does everything need a purpose?

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Does intelligence not exist?

Where did intelligence come from then?
Brain mass to body mass helps. Also one theory is that when fire was discovered, our ancesters no longer had to go to sleep once it got dark.  They could stay up and think while staring into the fire. Over time this helped to gain intelligence.

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Where does your conscience from?
Brain?

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Your conscience testifies that what you do is wrong. The law of the Lord is written in everyone's hearts and you are without excuse. You know what you do is wrong and do it anyway. Your own words will condemn you on the day of Judgement.
I don't need got to know right from wrong.
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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2015, 11:32:52 AM »
So get out of here with your CRAP ausgeoff.

I guess this is another example of the average Christian's way of expressing their feelings of love and respect for their fellow man?

It's moments like these that make me feel proud to be an atheist, and to have expunged all the religious zealot's hypocrisy, bigotry, hatred, deceit, and belligerence from my mind.  My very first task if I were made King of the world?  Ban all religions forever.  And thus make the world a far, far better place for all.


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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2015, 12:02:03 PM »
The Bible explicitly stated that Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Tyre. However, Tyre compromised with Nebuchadnezzar and accepted his authority, basically becoming a client state.
Of course Tyre lays in ruins. It's thousands of years old.
The claim about sulphur balls is also bullshit. Even Answers in Genisis, the leading creationist organization has deemed Ron Wyatt's discoveries false. http://www.ldolphin.org/wyatt.html

There have also been plenty of bible prophesies that didn't happen. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Failed_biblical_prophecies

The bible also states that bats are birds. Do you believe that?
Do you also believe in the laws outlined in Deuteronomy 22:21-23? Do you think that they are moral, and should our society reflect them?

You problem with eye evolution is classic creationist rhetoric. Actually, there are numerous examples in the animal kingdom of primitive eyes, showing how eyes might have evolved.

 Do you have any other reasons evolution is false, or are you just going to keep quoting the bible and rambling?

Creationism is demonstratively false.
http://ncse.com/cej/4/1/impossible-voyage-noahs-ark
Since you are probably to lazy to read it, I have taken the liberty of outlining a particularly illuminating paragraph

"But for the luckless animals that remained after the sacrifice, no doubt terrorized by the smell of their cooked comrades, many months of toil and tears still awaited as they began repopulating the earth. A large number of marsupials, found today only in Australia, made the long journey to that continent, which, strangely enough, is the only place where fossils of their progenitors are found. Even stranger is the fact that such fragile creatures as the platypus and the blind marsupial mole raced across the land bridge quicker than Malaysian tigers and other robust placentals. In a similar vein, the ceboids (New World primates) found their way to South America, again, the very region where their fossil ancestors had thrived. The elephant bird, a nine-foot, thousand-pound giant, decided not to remain on the mainland like the ostrich but splashed across the sea to Madagascar. In similar fashion, the dodo headed for Mauritius, the solitaire to Reunion, the white dodo to Rodriguez, the kagu to New Caledonia, and the kiwi to New Zealand—all flightless birds who swam to remote islands to make their only homes.

The fish of family ("kind") Comephoridae somehow crossed Asia to live in Lake Baikal, while the family of electric eels opted for the trans-Atlantic trip to South America. The gila monster and Mexican beaded lizard, the only members of family Helodermatidae, chose not to stay in convenient Asian deserts but journeyed through Siberia and across the Bering land bridge, Alaska, and Canada to arrive in the American Southwest, accomplishing this feat during the same Ice Age that creationists say decimated dinosaurs and buried mammoths! And all of this occurred despite the reproductive bottleneck of a single male and female, in which the slightest mishap, even a chance separation in the unknown wilderness, would have meant instant extinction.

The plant seeds that Noah had stored on board had to somehow be distributed around the world to climates and soils where they could grow. Two thousand species of cactus had to find their way to the New World while avoiding the arid lands of Asia and Africa. The giant sequoia and redwood trees had to reach the Pacific coast of North America and produce, from the handful of seeds in the ark, the magnificent forests that date to within a few centuries of the flood. Who carried the double coconut to the Seychelles, its only home, or planted the endemic flora atop the towering peaks of Venezuela's "Lost World"? How did the post-diluvian botanists determine which seeds would sprout only on the tundra and which required brakish marshes? The Bible has our patriarch and his family return to the simple pastoral life they once knew, leaving no one to handle the impossible chores of re-establishing the global ecosystem."
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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2015, 12:17:51 PM »
And from Genesis: 38:8-10,

After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto thy brother's wife."

But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and... when he went in unto his brother's wife... he spilled it on the ground... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord;  wherefore he slew him also."

—This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday Schools, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of masturbation, homosexuality, and birth control.

Again, from Leviticus:  20:13,

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".

—The bible is such a charming book isn't it?  Thankfully in Australia, we have an absolute separation of church and state.

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Re: Oh wowwee a car about to go over Horizon
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2015, 06:12:12 PM »
And from Genesis: 38:8-10,

After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto thy brother's wife."

But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and... when he went in unto his brother's wife... he spilled it on the ground... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord;  wherefore he slew him also."

—This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday Schools, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of masturbation, homosexuality, and birth control.

Again, from Leviticus:  20:13,

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".

—The bible is such a charming book isn't it?  Thankfully in Australia, we have an absolute separation of church and state.

Just looks to me that God is down with lesbians.
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