What makes FE sound?

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Tom Bishop

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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2015, 04:47:46 AM »
I have an alt on www.tfes.org. Can you name it?
Also, can you name any of these other organisations that have done the experiment

Sects of the Hollow Earth Society, the ones which believe that we live on the inside of a Hollow Earth, have conducted numerous water convexity experiments in their literature, seeing things that should not be visible, proving that the surface of the earth is not convex (although they just use it to conclude that RET is incorrect).

The US NAVY and other militaries across the world conduct Flat Earth Experiments every day. Consider Over the Horizon Radar. Radar dishes pointed at the horizon can see for thousands of miles over the horizon which should be impossible in Round Earth Theory. The simplest explanation to explain these observations is that the earth is flat and that the photons travel in straight lines. But to keep RET alive an excuse was made up that the photons are actually being broadcasted off of the dish and bounce along the sky and the ground like ricocheting billiard balls to their location, hit a body in the distance, and then return along their bouncing path and an image can be miraculously resolved and recognized back at the radar facility without significant scattering. Photons creating an image from light rays bouncing off of the ground and sky, and then back again! Can you believe that?



Experiments hat Texas State University have shown that Kansas is Flatter than a Pancake. In fact, the experimenters needed to go to great lengths to measure it because the high precision tools were reading that Kansas was nearly mathematically flat.  If the earth were a globe and the continents were wrapped around its surface with "gravity", Kansas would similarly be curved.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2015, 05:15:19 AM »
I have an alt on www.tfes.org. Can you name it?
Also, can you name any of these other organisations that have done the experiment

Sects of the Hollow Earth Society, the ones which believe that we live on the inside of a Hollow Earth, have conducted numerous water convexity experiments in their literature, seeing things that should not be visible, proving that the surface of the earth is not convex (although they just use it to conclude that RET is incorrect).

The US NAVY and other militaries across the world conduct Flat Earth Experiments every day. Consider Over the Horizon Radar. Radar dishes pointed at the horizon can see for thousands of miles over the horizon which should be impossible in Round Earth Theory. The simplest explanation to explain these observations is that the earth is flat and that the photons travel in straight lines. But to keep RET alive an excuse was made up that the photons are actually being broadcasted off of the dish and bounce along the sky and the ground like ricocheting billiard balls to their location, hit a body in the distance, and then return along their bouncing path and an image can be miraculously resolved and recognized back at the radar facility without significant scattering. Photons creating an image from light rays bouncing off of the ground and sky, and then back again! Can you believe that?



Experiments hat Texas State University have shown that Kansas is Flatter than a Pancake. In fact, the experimenters needed to go to great lengths to measure it because the high precision tools were reading that Kansas was nearly mathematically flat.  If the earth were a globe and the continents were wrapped around its surface with "gravity", Kansas would similarly be curved.
Flat - as in follows the curvature of the earth.

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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2015, 05:38:47 AM »
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Flat - as in follows the curvature of the earth.

Curved is not the definition of flat.

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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #63 on: February 24, 2015, 05:39:21 AM »
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Flat - as in follows the curvature of the earth.

Curved is not the definition of flat.
Reference frames exist.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2015, 06:32:52 AM »
The main proof of a Round Earth is provided by NASA, which has shown to be fraudulent.
Incorrect.  The science of geodesy and geodetic surveying predate NASA by several hundred years.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2015, 07:44:11 AM »
The main proof of a Round Earth is provided by NASA, which has shown to be fraudulent.
Incorrect.  The science of geodesy and geodetic surveying predate NASA by several hundred years.

No! NASA is the only entity on the planet trying to push a round earth agenda!

Dammit Tom I was far happier when you stayed on the other board.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2015, 09:32:11 AM »
I have an alt on www.tfes.org. Can you name it?
Also, can you name any of these other organisations that have done the experiment

Sects of the Hollow Earth Society, the ones which believe that we live on the inside of a Hollow Earth, have conducted numerous water convexity experiments in their literature, seeing things that should not be visible, proving that the surface of the earth is not convex (although they just use it to conclude that RET is incorrect).

The US NAVY and other militaries across the world conduct Flat Earth Experiments every day. Consider Over the Horizon Radar. Radar dishes pointed at the horizon can see for thousands of miles over the horizon which should be impossible in Round Earth Theory.
OTH radars don't use dish antennas. They use large arrays of antennas, but not dishes, because of the wavelengths involved. You may want to read up on this stuff before saying anything about it.

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The simplest explanation to explain these observations is that the earth is flat and that the photons travel in straight lines.
This explanation is not consistent with observations of electromagnetic radiation ("photons" if you want) at VHF and shorter wavelengths. Traditional radar uses much higher frequencies (shorter wavelengths) because that allows it to have better resolution, but those short wavelengths restrict it to essentially line-of-sight distances consistent with the curvature of the earth. OTH radar uses shortwave (HF) and lower frequencies because these can follow the curvature of the Earth for great distances if conditions are right. The "Russian Woodpecker" OTH radar in the 1970s and '80s was a huge nuisance for shortwave users like ham radio operators, international broadcasters, and aircraft.

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But to keep RET alive an excuse was made up that the photons are actually being broadcasted off of the dish and bounce along the sky and the ground like ricocheting billiard balls to their location, hit a body in the distance, and then return along their bouncing path and an image can be miraculously resolved and recognized back at the radar facility without significant scattering.
"Transmitted" is a better term than "broadcast" (and "broadcasted" is much less commonly used than "broadcast", if at all anymore). And, as already mentioned, neither the transmitting no receiving antenna is a dish. OTH radars don't form an image of their targets, either. They pretty much tell something is there and roughly how far away it is.

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Photons creating an image from light rays bouncing off of the ground and sky, and then back again! Can you believe that?
No. Where did you get the idea that's what happens?

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<Incorrectly interpreted image http://www.eol.ucar.edu/rsf/AP96/images/slides/duct_diagram_small.gif>

Experiments hat Texas State University have shown that Kansas is Flatter than a Pancake. In fact, the experimenters needed to go to great lengths to measure it because the high precision tools were reading that Kansas was nearly mathematically flat.  If the earth were a globe and the continents were wrapped around its surface with "gravity", Kansas would similarly be curved.
Your reference is the Annals of Improbable Research, a spoof publication. The results reported (elevation profile of Kansas and surface rugosity of a flapjack) are probably factual, but "flat" in the context of Kansas' elevation profile is relative to datum; an ellipsoid. You simply misinterpret the terminology.

Anyway, maybe you can explain this picture. It's described as showing the tops of the highest skyscrapers in Chicago, taken from 46 miles away. It was submitted by one of the more prolific and adamant flat-earth proponents these days, cikljamas because he postulated (incorrectly) that none of these buildings should be visible at all if the Earth were spherical.



The photo is entirely consistent with the scene and horizon expected for Lake Michigan photographed from a few meters above lake level if the Earth were a sphere with diameter about 8,000 miles. After that was resolved, the question was asked of flat-earth proponents: how do you explain seeing only the upper reaches of the tallest buildings from 46 miles if the Earth were flat. Why can't you see the entire skyline down to the waterfront?

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62885.msg1662098#msg1662098

and restated here:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62885.msg1662517#msg1662517

There have been only a couple half-hearted answers - one where the responder pretty much walks away from his explanation in the middle of giving it, and another semi-coherent reply that the buildings are "camouflaged" by the rippled water surface, or something.

Care to take a crack at it, Tom?
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2015, 09:43:35 AM »
I have an alt on www.tfes.org. Can you name it?
Also, can you name any of these other organisations that have done the experiment

Sects of the Hollow Earth Society, the ones which believe that we live on the inside of a Hollow Earth, have conducted numerous water convexity experiments in their literature, seeing things that should not be visible, proving that the surface of the earth is not convex (although they just use it to conclude that RET is incorrect).

The US NAVY and other militaries across the world conduct Flat Earth Experiments every day. Consider Over the Horizon Radar. Radar dishes pointed at the horizon can see for thousands of miles over the horizon which should be impossible in Round Earth Theory.
OTH radars don't use dish antennas. They use large arrays of antennas, but not dishes, because of the wavelengths involved.
Yes, like these




I think Tom may be thinking of troposcatter systems like these


Of course he's on dodgy ground bringing this shit up at all.  There is only one reason troposcatter systems were invented, and that's because the world is round!


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You may want to read up on this stuff before saying anything about it.
How dare you, that, sir, is not the flat earth way.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2015, 12:50:13 PM »
I have an alt on www.tfes.org. Can you name it?
Also, can you name any of these other organisations that have done the experiment

Sects of the Hollow Earth Society, the ones which believe that we live on the inside of a Hollow Earth, have conducted numerous water convexity experiments in their literature, seeing things that should not be visible, proving that the surface of the earth is not convex (although they just use it to conclude that RET is incorrect).

The US NAVY and other militaries across the world conduct Flat Earth Experiments every day. Consider Over the Horizon Radar. Radar dishes pointed at the horizon can see for thousands of miles over the horizon which should be impossible in Round Earth Theory.
OTH radars don't use dish antennas. They use large arrays of antennas, but not dishes, because of the wavelengths involved. You may want to read up on this stuff before saying anything about it.

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The simplest explanation to explain these observations is that the earth is flat and that the photons travel in straight lines.
This explanation is not consistent with observations of electromagnetic radiation ("photons" if you want) at VHF and shorter wavelengths. Traditional radar uses much higher frequencies (shorter wavelengths) because that allows it to have better resolution, but those short wavelengths restrict it to essentially line-of-sight distances consistent with the curvature of the earth. OTH radar uses shortwave (HF) and lower frequencies because these can follow the curvature of the Earth for great distances if conditions are right. The "Russian Woodpecker" OTH radar in the 1970s and '80s was a huge nuisance for shortwave users like ham radio operators, international broadcasters, and aircraft.

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But to keep RET alive an excuse was made up that the photons are actually being broadcasted off of the dish and bounce along the sky and the ground like ricocheting billiard balls to their location, hit a body in the distance, and then return along their bouncing path and an image can be miraculously resolved and recognized back at the radar facility without significant scattering.
"Transmitted" is a better term than "broadcast" (and "broadcasted" is much less commonly used than "broadcast", if at all anymore). And, as already mentioned, neither the transmitting no receiving antenna is a dish. OTH radars don't form an image of their targets, either. They pretty much tell something is there and roughly how far away it is.

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Photons creating an image from light rays bouncing off of the ground and sky, and then back again! Can you believe that?
No. Where did you get the idea that's what happens?

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<Incorrectly interpreted image http://www.eol.ucar.edu/rsf/AP96/images/slides/duct_diagram_small.gif>

Experiments hat Texas State University have shown that Kansas is Flatter than a Pancake. In fact, the experimenters needed to go to great lengths to measure it because the high precision tools were reading that Kansas was nearly mathematically flat.  If the earth were a globe and the continents were wrapped around its surface with "gravity", Kansas would similarly be curved.
Your reference is the Annals of Improbable Research, a spoof publication. The results reported (elevation profile of Kansas and surface rugosity of a flapjack) are probably factual, but "flat" in the context of Kansas' elevation profile is relative to datum; an ellipsoid. You simply misinterpret the terminology.

Anyway, maybe you can explain this picture. It's described as showing the tops of the highest skyscrapers in Chicago, taken from 46 miles away. It was submitted by one of the more prolific and adamant flat-earth proponents these days, cikljamas because he postulated (incorrectly) that none of these buildings should be visible at all if the Earth were spherical.



The photo is entirely consistent with the scene and horizon expected for Lake Michigan photographed from a few meters above lake level if the Earth were a sphere with diameter about 8,000 miles. After that was resolved, the question was asked of flat-earth proponents: how do you explain seeing only the upper reaches of the tallest buildings from 46 miles if the Earth were flat. Why can't you see the entire skyline down to the waterfront?

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62885.msg1662098#msg1662098

and restated here:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62885.msg1662517#msg1662517

There have been only a couple half-hearted answers - one where the responder pretty much walks away from his explanation in the middle of giving it, and another semi-coherent reply that the buildings are "camouflaged" by the rippled water surface, or something.

Care to take a crack at it, Tom?
half hearted lol.Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2015, 01:08:06 PM »
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2015, 01:11:56 PM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2015, 01:16:59 PM »

There is empirical evidence of a Flat Earth all around. Just look out your window.
I see a sharp horizon some 10 miles distant, which suggests the earth drops away from me at that distance. Empirical evidence it's not flat, although other shapes such as a torus are possible. Got anything else?
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Additional evidence comes from Samuel Birley Rowbotham, who conducted water convexity experiments on the Bedford Canal. Repeats of his experiments were repeated by others.
Yes they were. By Wallace, whose results showed convexity. And by Lady Blount, who showed flatness but was a close friend of Dr Rowbotham, and whose account of the experiment has more holes than Swiss cheese and is more inconsistent than the Star Wars Extended Universe. All other published accounts show convexity.
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The experiments were also repeated by the Flat Earth society in the 70's, 80's, and Daniel Shenton performed one a few years ago.
Really? Can you provide the results? And why do you neglect to mention that Daniel did not achieve any results agreeing with Dr Rowbotham?
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2015, 01:59:16 PM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2015, 02:17:05 PM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2015, 04:19:24 PM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
if you in large that photo you will see a series of vertical & horizon lines scatered all though it . Hardly a photo of anything but a digital representation of   what limited capability it had processing light freqences.  Nice try in duping the ignorant , but no cigar !!!!.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2015, 04:52:43 PM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
if you in large that photo you will see a series of vertical & horizon lines scatered all though it . Hardly a photo of anything but a digital representation of   what limited capability it had processing light freqences.  Nice try in duping the ignorant , but no cigar !!!!.

Are you even aware you were asked a question?
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #76 on: February 24, 2015, 08:28:29 PM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
if you in large that photo you will see a series of vertical & horizon lines scatered all though it . Hardly a photo of anything but a digital representation of   what limited capability it had processing light freqences.  Nice try in duping the ignorant , but no cigar !!!!.
Congratulations on discovering compression artifacts in JPEG images and welcome to the age of digital photography and the World Wide Web. Those artifacts are a byproduct of the techniques used to reduce the size of image files; the size is vastly reduced for efficient storage and transfer at the cost of lost fidelity. Did you really think you could fit a half-million pixel color photo into a 50-kilobyte file without giving something up?

Repeating the question asked earlier, since you've replied to the post it was in twice without acknowledging it: If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them [the buildings 46 miles away] to be? Which direction? You brought this up, so you must think the image in question has an issue with this. All the information you need to answer the question is in this paragraph. What is the issue?
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2015, 05:33:52 AM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
if you in large that photo you will see a series of vertical & horizon lines scatered all though it . Hardly a photo of anything but a digital representation of   what limited capability it had processing light freqences.  Nice try in duping the ignorant , but no cigar !!!!.
Congratulations on discovering compression artifacts in JPEG images and welcome to the age of digital photography and the World Wide Web. Those artifacts are a byproduct of the techniques used to reduce the size of image files; the size is vastly reduced for efficient storage and transfer at the cost of lost fidelity. Did you really think you could fit a half-million pixel color photo into a 50-kilobyte file without giving something up?

Repeating the question asked earlier, since you've replied to the post it was in twice without acknowledging it: If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them [the buildings 46 miles away] to be? Which direction? You brought this up, so you must think the image in question has an issue with this. All the information you need to answer the question is in this paragraph. What is the issue?
Well thats the point , the artifact byproduct shows the buildings are all vertically parallel. That shouldn't be the case if there was a curviture.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2015, 09:29:48 AM »
Well thats the point , the artifact byproduct shows the buildings are all vertically parallel. That shouldn't be the case if there was a curviture.

At least they are parallel enough so when you look at it they look parallel, they are not perfectly parallel but they are pretty darn close.
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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2015, 09:57:04 AM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
if you in large that photo you will see a series of vertical & horizon lines scatered all though it . Hardly a photo of anything but a digital representation of   what limited capability it had processing light freqences.  Nice try in duping the ignorant , but no cigar !!!!.
Congratulations on discovering compression artifacts in JPEG images and welcome to the age of digital photography and the World Wide Web. Those artifacts are a byproduct of the techniques used to reduce the size of image files; the size is vastly reduced for efficient storage and transfer at the cost of lost fidelity. Did you really think you could fit a half-million pixel color photo into a 50-kilobyte file without giving something up?

Repeating the question asked earlier, since you've replied to the post it was in twice without acknowledging it: If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them [the buildings 46 miles away] to be? Which direction? You brought this up, so you must think the image in question has an issue with this. All the information you need to answer the question is in this paragraph. What is the issue?
Well thats the point , the artifact byproduct shows the buildings are all vertically parallel. That shouldn't be the case if there was a curviture.
If there was a curvature what would to distances and angles be? Please show your workings.

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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2015, 09:59:08 AM »
Why are the buildings in that photo  maintaning a 90o vertical to the horizon . They should be demonstrating your curvature.

If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them to be? Which direction?
the reason you dont see the bottom of the buildings & its not curviture .
Test Your Brain Perception - Different shade of g…: " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">

Cool story, but maybe you would like to answer the question posed rather than posting a non sequitur?
if you in large that photo you will see a series of vertical & horizon lines scatered all though it . Hardly a photo of anything but a digital representation of   what limited capability it had processing light freqences.  Nice try in duping the ignorant , but no cigar !!!!.
Congratulations on discovering compression artifacts in JPEG images and welcome to the age of digital photography and the World Wide Web. Those artifacts are a byproduct of the techniques used to reduce the size of image files; the size is vastly reduced for efficient storage and transfer at the cost of lost fidelity. Did you really think you could fit a half-million pixel color photo into a 50-kilobyte file without giving something up?

Repeating the question asked earlier, since you've replied to the post it was in twice without acknowledging it: If the Earth were an 8000-mi-diameter sphere, how far off vertical would you expect them [the buildings 46 miles away] to be? Which direction? You brought this up, so you must think the image in question has an issue with this. All the information you need to answer the question is in this paragraph. What is the issue?
Well thats the point , the artifact byproduct shows the buildings are all vertically parallel. That shouldn't be the case if there was a curviture.
How far off do you think they should be? In which direction? How do you determine this? Would it be noticeable in that photo?

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Re: What makes FE sound?
« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2015, 07:17:00 PM »
The US NAVY and other militaries across the world conduct Flat Earth Experiments every day.
Nope.  This claim is demonstrably false Tom. (Unless of course you'd be prepared to cite some empirical evidence that supports it.) 

As far as over-the-horizon (OTH) radar is concerned, the Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN) in Australia can monitor air and sea movements across 40,000km2 with a nominal range of over 3,000km—which is obviously way beyond the visible horizon on the spherical earth.  It's enabled from a ground array by the use of ionospheric reflection as per:

The purple band represents the ionospheric layer.


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Radar dishes pointed at the horizon can see for thousands of miles over the horizon which should be impossible in Round Earth Theory.
A couple of further points Tom:  OTH radar "dishes" are not "pointed at the horizon".  You may well think that OTH radar is "impossible" in/on the round earth model, but you'd be wrong.  What "should"—or should not be—is ultimately irrelevant.  As Stan Freberg said in his parody of Dragnet's Joe Friday:  "Just the facts, ma'am".

And all scientific theories are well-substantiated explanations of an aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.  Also, scientific theories are testable and make falsifiable predictions.

The flat earth "hypothesis" (which is actually just a notion) doesn't satisfy any of the tenets of credible science.  Put another way, there is no such thing as a flat earth "theory".