Gravity = Air Pressure

Quote from: Jet Fission on November 29, 2014, 11:46:47 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Yendor on November 29, 2014, 11:24:40 AM

Gosh Scepti...they have all this evidence against us, they must be right.

Yep, they are all accomplished astronomers now and can actually see astronauts repairing the space station and everything. It's so ludicrous it makes me giggle like a kid.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:46:22 AM

I'm not after convincing anyone. You're trying to convince me of your bullshit and I'm just sat here amused at your desperate attempts to sell what should be clear to anyone with a brain, is clear and utter bullshit.

This is what he does when he gets cornered. He fails to refute any of our points, and he resorts to giggling and not confirming anything himself like he so often pleas us to do.

Let me do what you do to me: saying it's bullshit does not make it so.

Cornered? I'm encircled and still standing upright, because none of you can refute what I'm saying, except to try desperately to hang on.

You have failed to disprove the evidence of the ISS, you have failed to disprove the credibility of our evidence that it exists, and you resort to... giggling. I would call that being cornered.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: Jet Fission on November 29, 2014, 11:46:47 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Yendor on November 29, 2014, 11:24:40 AM

Gosh Scepti...they have all this evidence against us, they must be right.

Yep, they are all accomplished astronomers now and can actually see astronauts repairing the space station and everything. It's so ludicrous it makes me giggle like a kid.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:46:22 AM

I'm not after convincing anyone. You're trying to convince me of your bullshit and I'm just sat here amused at your desperate attempts to sell what should be clear to anyone with a brain, is clear and utter bullshit.

This is what he does when he gets cornered. He fails to refute any of our points, and he resorts to giggling and not confirming anything himself like he so often pleas us to do.

Let me do what you do to me: saying it's bullshit does not make it so.

Cornered? I'm encircled and still standing upright, because none of you can refute what I'm saying, except to try desperately to hang on.

You have failed to disprove the evidence of the ISS, you have failed to disprove the credibility of our evidence that it exists, and you resort to... giggling. I would call that being cornered.

So a few amateur debaters on a forum tell me they've seen the ISS through all kinds of telescopes from cheap to even binoculars and that's evidence? don't kid yourself.
The only evidence you have is tying bullshit and thinking people will just accept it. Only your little friends on here will do that. Not good enough, oh and get your neck seen to, I've just bitten it.
Never try to corner a RAT (Rational avid truthteller). 

Quote from: Jet Fission on November 29, 2014, 11:54:20 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: Jet Fission on November 29, 2014, 11:46:47 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Yendor on November 29, 2014, 11:24:40 AM

Gosh Scepti...they have all this evidence against us, they must be right.

Yep, they are all accomplished astronomers now and can actually see astronauts repairing the space station and everything. It's so ludicrous it makes me giggle like a kid.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:46:22 AM

I'm not after convincing anyone. You're trying to convince me of your bullshit and I'm just sat here amused at your desperate attempts to sell what should be clear to anyone with a brain, is clear and utter bullshit.

This is what he does when he gets cornered. He fails to refute any of our points, and he resorts to giggling and not confirming anything himself like he so often pleas us to do.

Let me do what you do to me: saying it's bullshit does not make it so.

Cornered? I'm encircled and still standing upright, because none of you can refute what I'm saying, except to try desperately to hang on.

You have failed to disprove the evidence of the ISS, you have failed to disprove the credibility of our evidence that it exists, and you resort to... giggling. I would call that being cornered.

So a few amateur debaters on a forum tell me they've seen the ISS through all kinds of telescopes from cheap to even binoculars and that's evidence? don't kid yourself.
The only evidence you have is tying bullshit and thinking people will just accept it. Only your little friends on here will do that. Not good enough, oh and get your neck seen to, I've just bitten it.
Never try to corner a RAT (Rational avid truthteller). 

Oh yeah, that bite sure hurts. Seriously though, you haven't presented anY refute, and you think you won. That's hilarious. All you're doing right now is repeating things over and over. Looks like someone is losing their cool.

So, I guess amateur photographic evidence isn't evidence for Sceptmatic. Even though he can try it himself.

Even though he can try it himself, he still denies it.

Quote from: Jet Fission on November 29, 2014, 11:46:47 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Yendor on November 29, 2014, 11:24:40 AM

Gosh Scepti...they have all this evidence against us, they must be right.

Yep, they are all accomplished astronomers now and can actually see astronauts repairing the space station and everything. It's so ludicrous it makes me giggle like a kid.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 11:46:22 AM

I'm not after convincing anyone. You're trying to convince me of your bullshit and I'm just sat here amused at your desperate attempts to sell what should be clear to anyone with a brain, is clear and utter bullshit.

This is what he does when he gets cornered. He fails to refute any of our points, and he resorts to giggling and not confirming anything himself like he so often pleas us to do.

Let me do what you do to me: saying it's bullshit does not make it so.

Cornered? I'm encircled and still standing upright, because none of you can refute what I'm saying, except to try desperately to hang on.

Again, you are still standing because of your mental condition. The refutations you've read and seen have removed denpressure from being anything more than it has been, which is just a figment of your imagination. It doesn't work the way you advertise and ironically it's not even compatible with your model of the earth.

The ISS is supposed to be travelling at 17,000 mph and can do something like 16 orbits a day and these clever amateurs manage to capture it clearly as a shape of light.
Does anyone seriously believe something like this, illuminated by the so called sun, travlling at 17,000 mph would show up in a telescope like this from a distance of 230 supposed miles.

For all those scpetics looking in, please don't fall for this clap trap.

Well, a person with sufficient resources could;

Try stuff out and see.

or

  also do the experiments. You never know, they just might alter things.

Isn't that right Scepti?

A scene from Sceptimatic's life story:

Guy with Amateur Telescope:  I'm looking at ISS right now! This is so cool!
Sceptimatic (5 feet away):  No you aren't.  You are lying.
Guy with Amateur Telescope: Seriously, Sceptimatic, I can see it!  Come here and I'll show you!
Sceptimatic:  I'm not going to waste my time walking 5 feet to see something I know can't exist.
Guy with Amateur Telescope: Dude, you claim to be interested in the truth and seeing things with your own eyes. Just put your eye right here and you can prove satellites exist. This will change everything for you.
Sceptimatc:  No.  [His voice trails off as he mumbles something about an ice dome.]

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

We've already proved the ISS, and obviously you can't disprove that. So now we're laughing at your attempts to make yourself feel victorious. If you've decided to buy yourself a telescope setup let us know. If you've decided to buy yourself a vacuum chamber let us know.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 03:08:59 PM

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

We've already proved the ISS, and obviously you can't disprove that. So now we're laughing at your attempts to make yourself feel victorious. If you've decided to buy yourself a telescope setup let us know. If you've decided to buy yourself a vacuum chamber let us know.

I don't need to let you know anything. I'm telling people who want to find out the truth. It's not about being victorious against the likes of you. I don't care what you think.
The one's I care about are those that can actually think for themselves.
Don't start pretending you know what I have and what I haven't, or what I've done. It's pointless. It's internet chit chat, just like you being this and that. You could be anything and anyone and claim to be anything or anyone other than what you really are. So could I.
Having said that. If you want to find the truth, then pay attention. If you don't want to pay attention, then keep acting the way you are and you will get frustrated in time. I'm simply too good and too genius of mind on the ability to understand basic science that has been turned into a spaghetti maze of absolute bullshit that you buy into and beg for more.

I don't need to let you know anything. I'm telling people who want to find out the truth. It's not about being victorious against the likes of you. I don't care what you think.
The one's I care about are those that can actually think for themselves.
Don't start pretending you know what I have and what I haven't, or what I've done. It's pointless. It's internet chit chat, just like you being this and that. You could be anything and anyone and claim to be anything or anyone other than what you really are. So could I.
Having said that. If you want to find the truth, then pay attention. If you don't want to pay attention, then keep acting the way you are and you will get frustrated in time. I'm simply too good and too genius of mind on the ability to understand basic science that has been turned into a spaghetti maze of absolute bullshit that you buy into and beg for more.

"Cornered? I'm encircled and still standing upright, because none of you can refute what I'm saying, except to try desperately to hang on."
"Not good enough, oh and get your neck seen to, I've just bitten it. Never try to corner a RAT"

Na, it's pretty obvious you want to be right.
Look, I know you like going on tangents about how we're worthless to you and that there's nothing you feel obligated to tell us, in which case, please leave, because you're just wasting everyone's time. A person trying to find the "truth" is going to want evidence. And one cannot come to your "truth" without the evidence which you have been withholding to this entire forum. Stop with the dancing.

You're clearly a hypocrite. You go on tangents about how we don't think for ourselves, and then one of us comes up with a few actual experiences and photographic evidence that just... destroys you. What do you do? You resort to this:

So a few amateur debaters on a forum tell me they've seen the ISS through all kinds of telescopes from cheap to even binoculars and that's evidence? don't kid yourself.
The only evidence you have is tying bullshit and thinking people will just accept it.

and this:

Yep, they are all accomplished astronomers now and can actually see astronauts repairing the space station and everything. It's so ludicrous it makes me giggle like a kid.

and this:

You're trying to convince me of your bullshit and I'm just sat here amused at your desperate attempts to sell what should be clear to anyone with a brain, is clear and utter bullshit.

and this:

Keep it going Jet, the frustration is setting in with you. This is why you'll never understand anything. Next time come with a better gameplan, you people are easy meat.

and this:

I'm simply too good and too genius of mind on the ability to understand basic science that has been turned into a spaghetti maze of absolute bullshit that you buy into and beg for more.

For fuck's sakes. Do the experiments yourself.

Get over yourself. You look so foolish.

Not even your so called "RAT's" can take you seriously.

Keep it going Jet, the frustration is setting in with you. This is why you'll never understand anything. Next time come with a better gameplan, you people are easy meat.

Keep it going Jet, the frustration is setting in with you. This is why you'll never understand anything. Next time come with a better gameplan, you people are easy meat.

Nope, no need for me to keep going. You've already exposed your true self to everyone. Nice.

Have fun, guys!

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 04:17:32 PM

Keep it going Jet, the frustration is setting in with you. This is why you'll never understand anything. Next time come with a better gameplan, you people are easy meat.

Nope, no need for me to keep going. You've already exposed your true self to everyone. Nice.

Have fun, guys!

See you in your next name, fission man. 

I will repeat it, sceptimatic. It is not that I am brainwashed. I can think for myself. If I discarded gravity, denpressure would be the last option I'd consider. Universal Acceleration? Occam's razor: well, its main con is that it requires a global conspiracy to be valid. And still doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that might be that I'm used to know about gravity. Then there is denpessure. For it to be true, there are several problems: global conspiracy, basic physics have to be wrong (really, this is pretty stupid, most things you deny can be easily proven and understood), etc. So anyway, I'll stick with gravity. And for a theory to make less sense than UA, it has to be pretty stupid.

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

How does one go about disproving an incoherent stream of gibberish? 

I will repeat it, sceptimatic. It is not that I am brainwashed. I can think for myself. If I discarded gravity, denpressure would be the last option I'd consider. Universal Acceleration? Occam's razor: well, its main con is that it requires a global conspiracy to be valid. And still doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that might be that I'm used to know about gravity. Then there is denpessure. For it to be true, there are several problems: global conspiracy, basic physics have to be wrong (really, this is pretty stupid, most things you deny can be easily proven and understood), etc. So anyway, I'll stick with gravity. And for a theory to make less sense than UA, it has to be pretty stupid.

Nothing else will ever make sense to a programmed robot, if that robot has been fed different information, so I fully understand why you take the stance you do.

It's not actually your fault. It's the fault of those that coaxed you into it and those that coaxed you into it can blame those who coaxed thm into it, to coax you into what you believe you know as fact, but is fiction.

Never mind. If you're just a kid, you have time on your hands to rectify this. If you're an adult, you're going to struggle like hell if you can't think for yourself, now.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 03:08:59 PM

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

How does one go about disproving an incoherent stream of gibberish? 

Well, you can start by burning your science fiction space books. That's a good start. From then, you just have to realise that the so called genius scientists that gave out the gibberish, are nothing but puppets for the higher ranks and try and learn the truth from the people who can think. I'm trying to help and so are a few others. I suggest you take notice; but the choice has to be made from yourself.
Maybe you can't manage it; or won't.
Never mind.

Quote from: markjo on November 29, 2014, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 03:08:59 PM

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

How does one go about disproving an incoherent stream of gibberish? 

Well, you can start by burning your science fiction space books. That's a good start. From then, you just have to realise that the so called genius scientists that gave out the gibberish, are nothing but puppets for the higher ranks and try and learn the truth from the people who can think. I'm trying to help and so are a few others. I suggest you take notice; but the choice has to be made from yourself.
Maybe you can't manage it; or won't.
Never mind.

What truth are these "higher ranks" trying to hide?  Gravity, density and pressure have all been studied for many years before any space conspiracy agency was even thought of.

I don't care what you think.

LOL... we already know this of sceptimatic.  From the childish giggling he's admitted to.

           

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 05:18:25 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 29, 2014, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 03:08:59 PM

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

How does one go about disproving an incoherent stream of gibberish? 

Well, you can start by burning your science fiction space books. That's a good start. From then, you just have to realise that the so called genius scientists that gave out the gibberish, are nothing but puppets for the higher ranks and try and learn the truth from the people who can think. I'm trying to help and so are a few others. I suggest you take notice; but the choice has to be made from yourself.
Maybe you can't manage it; or won't.
Never mind.

What truth are these "higher ranks" trying to hide?  Gravity, density and pressure have all been studied for many years before any space conspiracy agency was even thought of.

That's right. Let's not forget Newton and his wig sat under an apple tree when the apple smacked his head. Eureka. 

Quote from: markjo on November 29, 2014, 05:29:10 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 05:18:25 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 29, 2014, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 03:08:59 PM

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

How does one go about disproving an incoherent stream of gibberish? 

Well, you can start by burning your science fiction space books. That's a good start. From then, you just have to realise that the so called genius scientists that gave out the gibberish, are nothing but puppets for the higher ranks and try and learn the truth from the people who can think. I'm trying to help and so are a few others. I suggest you take notice; but the choice has to be made from yourself.
Maybe you can't manage it; or won't.
Never mind.

What truth are these "higher ranks" trying to hide?  Gravity, density and pressure have all been studied for many years before any space conspiracy agency was even thought of.

That's right. Let's not forget Newton and his wig sat under an apple tree when the apple smacked his head. Eureka. 

No, eureka was Archimedes not Newton

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 04:46:48 AM

Quote from: markjo on November 29, 2014, 05:29:10 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 05:18:25 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 29, 2014, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 29, 2014, 03:08:59 PM

Some nice yapping there people. None of it disproves what I've been saying.

How does one go about disproving an incoherent stream of gibberish? 

Well, you can start by burning your science fiction space books. That's a good start. From then, you just have to realise that the so called genius scientists that gave out the gibberish, are nothing but puppets for the higher ranks and try and learn the truth from the people who can think. I'm trying to help and so are a few others. I suggest you take notice; but the choice has to be made from yourself.
Maybe you can't manage it; or won't.
Never mind.

What truth are these "higher ranks" trying to hide?  Gravity, density and pressure have all been studied for many years before any space conspiracy agency was even thought of.

That's right. Let's not forget Newton and his wig sat under an apple tree when the apple smacked his head. Eureka. 

No, eureka was Archimedes not Newton

Did he tell you that himself?

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

It's just a legend anyway. There is no way to confirm what actually gave him this epiphany but it seems logical to conclude that if everything falls except the heavens then there must be some reason why. If course this makes no sense to you because you've already supposed that the moon isn't an object.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

It's just a legend anyway. There is no way to confirm what actually gave him this epiphany but it seems logical to conclude that if everything falls except the heavens then there must be some reason why. If course this makes no sense to you because you've already supposed that the moon isn't an object.

In reality it shouldn't make sense to anyone that tehre is a rock in the sky, but mainstream supposed science has forced that silly belief and people trust authority, so here we are.

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:31:24 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

It's just a legend anyway. There is no way to confirm what actually gave him this epiphany but it seems logical to conclude that if everything falls except the heavens then there must be some reason why. If course this makes no sense to you because you've already supposed that the moon isn't an object.

In reality it shouldn't make sense to anyone that tehre is a rock in the sky, but mainstream supposed science has forced that silly belief and people trust authority, so here we are.

Just look at it. It's a sphere in every sense. The way light hits it, it's appearance has a sense of depth.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:35:53 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:31:24 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

It's just a legend anyway. There is no way to confirm what actually gave him this epiphany but it seems logical to conclude that if everything falls except the heavens then there must be some reason why. If course this makes no sense to you because you've already supposed that the moon isn't an object.

In reality it shouldn't make sense to anyone that tehre is a rock in the sky, but mainstream supposed science has forced that silly belief and people trust authority, so here we are.

Just look at it. It's a sphere in every sense. The way light hits it, it's appearance has a sense of depth.

So does your face in a mirror but you aren't inside that mirror.

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:37:44 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:35:53 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:31:24 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

It's just a legend anyway. There is no way to confirm what actually gave him this epiphany but it seems logical to conclude that if everything falls except the heavens then there must be some reason why. If course this makes no sense to you because you've already supposed that the moon isn't an object.

In reality it shouldn't make sense to anyone that tehre is a rock in the sky, but mainstream supposed science has forced that silly belief and people trust authority, so here we are.

Just look at it. It's a sphere in every sense. The way light hits it, it's appearance has a sense of depth.

So does your face in a mirror but you aren't inside that mirror.

Sure, and you'll also notice that the you can look at a whole different side of a face in a mirror if the mirror is close enough. The moon would need to be very far away. Something like 239,000 miles.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:40:45 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:37:44 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:35:53 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:31:24 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 30, 2014, 07:24:47 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on November 30, 2014, 07:09:14 AM

The story is supposedly that newton had an epiphany when he noticed that the apples in the orchard fell off the trees while the moon sat in the sky, not falling. This led him to suppose that the moon was also under the same influence of gravity but some velocity was also influencing the moon.

Oh right. Even more stupid then.

It's just a legend anyway. There is no way to confirm what actually gave him this epiphany but it seems logical to conclude that if everything falls except the heavens then there must be some reason why. If course this makes no sense to you because you've already supposed that the moon isn't an object.

In reality it shouldn't make sense to anyone that tehre is a rock in the sky, but mainstream supposed science has forced that silly belief and people trust authority, so here we are.

Just look at it. It's a sphere in every sense. The way light hits it, it's appearance has a sense of depth.

So does your face in a mirror but you aren't inside that mirror.

Sure, and you'll also notice that the you can look at a whole different side of a face in a mirror if the mirror is close enough. The moon would need to be very far away. Something like 239,000 miles.

How do you come to this conclusion?