Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 19, 2014, 02:00:50 PM

Quote from: legion on November 19, 2014, 10:33:14 AM

Of course you have no motivation to prove the rosetta/philae sham. Doing so is impossible, and you know it. Why you expect me to be able to disprove it is unclear. And why you think I have a burden of proof is also unclear. As I've said many times, I don't care what you think. That's not meant offensively, just a statement of fact.

Gee... this is a difficult one to respond to.  Thousands of astrophysicists and astronomers, and engineers and technicians developed and viewed the Rosetta landing, but one guy called legion reckons it's all bogus.

Hmmm..... who to believe?     

Care to back that up, geoffrey? You don't want everyone to think you are making stuff up again, surely? I'm actually surprised you haven't gone with your usual claim of "millions".

"Pictures are good proof" != "Rottingroom believes the pictures". You make a tremendous amount of assumptions for someone who sees that as a deficiency. Cmon kiddo, you are better than that.

Quote from: Rama Set on November 19, 2014, 02:44:28 PM

"Pictures are good proof" != "Rottingroom believes the pictures". You make a tremendous amount of assumptions for someone who sees that as a deficiency. Cmon kiddo, you are better than that.

rama, I don't know what game you think you are playing with me, but with posts like that one, you seem to be losing and clutching at straws.

rotting believes. You believe.

Quote from: legion on November 19, 2014, 02:07:57 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 19, 2014, 02:00:50 PM

Quote from: legion on November 19, 2014, 10:33:14 AM

Of course you have no motivation to prove the rosetta/philae sham. Doing so is impossible, and you know it. Why you expect me to be able to disprove it is unclear. And why you think I have a burden of proof is also unclear. As I've said many times, I don't care what you think. That's not meant offensively, just a statement of fact.

Gee... this is a difficult one to respond to.  Thousands of astrophysicists and astronomers, and engineers and technicians developed and viewed the Rosetta landing, but one guy called legion reckons it's all bogus.

Hmmm..... who to believe?     

Care to back that up, geoffrey? You don't want everyone to think you are making stuff up again, surely? I'm actually surprised you haven't gone with your usual claim of "millions".

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Or are you now denying that thousands of technical personnel were involved in some way with the Rosetta landing?  How many would you say were involved?

A handful.

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And as a matter of interest, can you tell me the names of half a dozen accredited scientists who accept the flat earth theory?  I'm betting you can't.

Usual off-topic drivel.

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And as a matter of interest, can you tell me the names of half a dozen accredited scientists who accept the flat earth theory?  I'm betting you can't.

Usual off-topic drivel.

Quote from: legion on November 19, 2014, 03:00:05 PM

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And as a matter of interest, can you tell me the names of half a dozen accredited scientists who accept the flat earth theory?  I'm betting you can't.

Usual off-topic drivel.

So like every other flat earther here, poor old legion couldn't even name half a dozen flat earth scientists, and tried to claim my request was just "drivel".  LOL.  What a piss-weak response.

The mere fact that he's unable to proves pretty clearly that there are none.  Unless you'd like some time to do a bit more research and come up with a few names legion?  The ball is in your court.  Go for it, or look like a fool.

He said it was off-topic drivel, which it is. It is an argument from authority which has nothing to do with the thread. In this case, Legion was right.

Quote from: Rama Set on November 19, 2014, 05:17:16 PM

He said it was off-topic drivel, which it is. It is an argument from authority which has nothing to do with the thread. In this case, Legion was right.

I'm not quite sure as to why you've started to stalk me again, but anyway, say what you will.  It makes not one iota of difference to me LOL.

I think that someone such as legion—who denies the whole Rosetta landing thing—needs to supply alternative sources from scientist who agree with him that it was all bogus.  And presumably these scientists would also accept the flat earth theory.  So asking him to name a few of those presumed scientists wasn't "drivel" by any means;  it was directly related to his calling foul.

Or, as a round earther, are you happy to accept his opinion as being credible, without any scientific backup?  If I say (as I do of course) that the Rosetta landing was legitimate, I'm happy to name a few of the ESA scientists whose credentials I respect; Frank De Winne, Timothy Peake, Frank De Winne, Claude Nicollier, Thomas Reiter, Andreas Mogensen, Alexander Gerst et al.

Why shouldn't I expect the same of legion?  I'm certainly not just gonna take his word alone for the negative claims he makes.  He needs to qualify them.

The European Space Agency, ESA, suggests that the spacecraft Rosetta made total three fly-bys of planet Earth and one fly-by of planet Mars to get to the comet and that each fly-by created a gravity assisted kick sending the spacecraft at a different speed/direction towards the comet and that the spacecraft finally had to brake to fly parallell with the comet. That it is an illusion and pure nonsense is described at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm . 

Reason why ESA fools us is to collect tax payers money and put in their own pockets. Rosetta is just computer generated images, etc.

The European Space Agency, ESA, suggests that the spacecraft Rosetta made total three fly-bys of planet Earth and one fly-by of planet Mars to get to the comet and that each fly-by created a gravity assisted kick sending the spacecraft at a different speed/direction towards the comet and that the spacecraft finally had to brake to fly parallell with the comet. That it is an illusion and pure nonsense is described at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm . 

Reason why ESA fools us is to collect tax payers money and put in their own pockets. Rosetta is just computer generated images, etc.

The European Space Agency, ESA, suggests that the spacecraft Rosetta made total three fly-bys of planet Earth and one fly-by of planet Mars to get to the comet and that each fly-by created a gravity assisted kick sending the spacecraft at a different speed/direction towards the comet and that the spacecraft finally had to brake to fly parallell with the comet. That it is an illusion and pure nonsense is described at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm . 

Reason why ESA fools us is to collect tax payers money and put in their own pockets. Rosetta is just computer generated images, etc.

Quote from: Heiwa on November 20, 2014, 09:24:14 AM

Reason why ESA fools us is to collect tax payers money and put in their own pockets. Rosetta is just computer generated images, etc.

In videos purporting to be footage from either Rosetta's or Philae's cameras, can you please present evidence that they are CGI?

Can you please quote the relevant passage that shows gravitational slingshots are not possible?

In videos purporting to be footage from either Rosetta's or Philae's cameras, can you please present evidence that they are CGI?

Quote from: Rama Set on November 20, 2014, 09:32:57 AM

Can you please quote the relevant passage that shows gravitational slingshots are not possible?

In videos purporting to be footage from either Rosetta's or Philae's cameras, can you please present evidence that they are CGI?

Thanks for asking. Answers are provided in my article linked to above.

According ESA the first Rosetta fly-by of planet Earth and associated gravity kick took place exactly one year after departure from planet Earth, i.e. planet Earth had just made one tour around the Sun. If you study my article you will find that Rosetta could not have been in that location in space at that time. Same applies to the following kicks.

Again, would you please quote the relevant passage(s)?

You should wonder about the first strange and following fly-bys (sic) and gravity assist kicks in 3-D. How can planets like Earth and Mars fly-by and kick away a light spacecraft like the Rosetta? Why doesn't Rosetta simply collide with the planets?

Looks easily doable to me. Shows the flight path.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62296.0#.VG66IsnYeQ4

Quote from: Heiwa on November 20, 2014, 09:24:14 AM

The European Space Agency, ESA, suggests that the spacecraft Rosetta made total three fly-bys of planet Earth and one fly-by of planet Mars to get to the comet and that each fly-by created a gravity assisted kick sending the spacecraft at a different speed/direction towards the comet and that the spacecraft finally had to brake to fly parallell with the comet. That it is an illusion and pure nonsense is described at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm . 

Reason why ESA fools us is to collect tax payers money and put in their own pockets. Rosetta is just computer generated images, etc.

Before I take a look at this later and critique I just want to point out that conspiracy theorists all suck at web design.

Quote from: rottingroom on November 20, 2014, 09:26:44 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on November 20, 2014, 09:24:14 AM

The European Space Agency, ESA, suggests that the spacecraft Rosetta made total three fly-bys of planet Earth and one fly-by of planet Mars to get to the comet and that each fly-by created a gravity assisted kick sending the spacecraft at a different speed/direction towards the comet and that the spacecraft finally had to brake to fly parallell with the comet. That it is an illusion and pure nonsense is described at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm . 

Reason why ESA fools us is to collect tax payers money and put in their own pockets. Rosetta is just computer generated images, etc.

Before I take a look at this later and critique I just want to point out that conspiracy theorists all suck at web design.

I'm going to have to agree. I don't have anything to add as far as the the subject goes.

Your page is just text vomit.

Quote from: Arith on November 21, 2014, 04:00:33 AM

Your page is just text vomit.

I think you are jealous that I have 500 visitors/day to my site

Quote from: Heiwa on November 21, 2014, 05:09:58 AM

Quote from: Arith on November 21, 2014, 04:00:33 AM

Your page is just text vomit.

I think you are jealous that I have 500 visitors/day to my site

Any evidence of this claim?

Quote from: Arith on November 21, 2014, 04:00:33 AM

Your page is just text vomit.

I think you are jealous that I have 500 visitors/day to my site and http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#ROS .

But topic is Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet and for it planet Earth at three close fly-bys kicked off Rosetta three times into new directions at new velocities into space to finally to reach the comet.

But when it happened just above us 3rd March 2005, 14 November 2007 and 11 November 2009 nobody told us. Wouldn't it have been nice to witness a Rosetta fly-by of Earth then?

Maybe there were no fly-bys? What do you think?

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on November 21, 2014, 05:47:44 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on November 21, 2014, 05:09:58 AM

Quote from: Arith on November 21, 2014, 04:00:33 AM

Your page is just text vomit.

I think you are jealous that I have 500 visitors/day to my site

Any evidence of this claim?

Why would anyone be jealous of Google bots and Yahoo spiders

Quote from: Arith on November 21, 2014, 04:00:33 AM

Your page is just text vomit.

I think you are jealous that I have 500 visitors/day to my site [...]