Sir Richard Branson admits Space Tourism Project in doubt

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

or steve jobs is to apple what colonel sanders is to kentucky fried chicken.

stupidly obvious, unless obviously stupid.

grasp such deceptions, and feathered space-plane failure technicalities explain themselves.

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

or steve jobs is to apple what colonel sanders is to kentucky fried chicken.

stupidly obvious, unless obviously stupid.

grasp such deceptions, and feathered space-plane failure technicalities explain themselves.

Someone doesn't know the difference between real and fictional characters...

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

Ronald McDonald founded McDonalds and owns the brand?   

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 11, 2014, 04:00:37 PM

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

or steve jobs is to apple what colonel sanders is to kentucky fried chicken.

stupidly obvious, unless obviously stupid.

grasp such deceptions, and feathered space-plane failure technicalities explain themselves.

Someone doesn't know the difference between real and fictional characters...

most people are unable to differentiate.

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 11, 2014, 04:00:37 PM

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

Ronald McDonald founded McDonalds and owns the brand?   

is this the conclusion you have reached after reading my words?

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on November 12, 2014, 08:30:19 AM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 11, 2014, 04:00:37 PM

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

Ronald McDonald founded McDonalds and owns the brand?   

is this the conclusion you have reached after reading my words?

Only if we assume that you are aware of what you wrote.

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 12, 2014, 05:41:17 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on November 12, 2014, 08:30:19 AM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 11, 2014, 04:00:37 PM

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

Ronald McDonald founded McDonalds and owns the brand?   

is this the conclusion you have reached after reading my words?

Only if we assume that you are aware of what you wrote.

you enter into dialogue without the assumption that the other party is aware of what they are writing?

Quote from: Rama Set on November 12, 2014, 07:40:05 PM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 12, 2014, 05:41:17 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on November 12, 2014, 08:30:19 AM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 11, 2014, 04:00:37 PM

branson is to virgin what ronald mcdonald is to mcdonalds.

Ronald McDonald founded McDonalds and owns the brand?   

is this the conclusion you have reached after reading my words?

Only if we assume that you are aware of what you wrote.

you enter into dialogue without the assumption that the other party is aware of what they are writing?

Sounds like fun doesn't it?

I've just been looking through the writings about this.
The spaceship two jalopy had no ejector seats.
Also, read this little beauty. Of course it will be normal stuff to the super scientists on here. 

During the press conference, it was stated that the rocket motor called RocketMotorTwo (RM2) had itself been flown in four previous flights but this was the first flight of version 2 now using a nylon-type plastic called thermoplastic polyamide, replacing the rubber-based fuel used by SpaceShipOne; ultimately too problematic for the SS2 design.



Also, I've been looking at the names of those involed with this project.
Get this.

Participating in the press conference were executives Kevin Mickey, CEO of Scaled Composites  , George Whitesides, CEO of Virgin Galactic  and Stu Witt (Stu Witt to woo), chief executive of Mojave Air and Space Port. 

They emphasized that the nylon-based rocket fuel and engine had been thoroughly tested on the ground and they were confident of its readiness for in-flight testing......They probably stuffed the tank full of black stockings. 

The executives did also emphasize once again that “space is hard.” This was first stated by President Kennedy during his famous speech at Rice University..... yet, if you ask Sunny Williams, Chris Hadfield and Cady Coleman, they will beg to differ. It's piss easy for these people and they bring guitars up and do sing songs with Earth choirs, etc. 

I'll see what other names I can find but up to now, we have someone taking the Mickey. A whiteknight "whitesides" and a nice Stu Witt to woo, owl...or basically stupid witt.
You decide.

Scaled composites, indeed. 

I've just been looking through the writings about this.
The spaceship two jalopy had no ejector seats.
Also, read this little beauty. Of course it will be normal stuff to the super scientists on here. 

During the press conference, it was stated that the rocket motor called RocketMotorTwo (RM2) had itself been flown in four previous flights but this was the first flight of version 2 now using a nylon-type plastic called thermoplastic polyamide, replacing the rubber-based fuel used by SpaceShipOne; ultimately too problematic for the SS2 design.



Also, I've been looking at the names of those involed with this project.
Get this.

Participating in the press conference were executives Kevin Mickey, CEO of Scaled Composites  , George Whitesides, CEO of Virgin Galactic  and Stu Witt (Stu Witt to woo), chief executive of Mojave Air and Space Port. 

They emphasized that the nylon-based rocket fuel and engine had been thoroughly tested on the ground and they were confident of its readiness for in-flight testing......They probably stuffed the tank full of black stockings. 

The executives did also emphasize once again that “space is hard.” This was first stated by President Kennedy during his famous speech at Rice University..... yet, if you ask Sunny Williams, Chris Hadfield and Cady Coleman, they will beg to differ. It's piss easy for these people and they bring guitars up and do sing songs with Earth choirs, etc. 

I'll see what other names I can find but up to now, we have someone taking the Mickey. A whiteknight "whitesides" and a nice Stu Witt to woo, owl...or basically stupid witt.
You decide.

Scaled composites, indeed. 

So names mean stuff and people think things are hard that other people have done.

I cannot believe I did not see the light before.  Thank you scepti.  Can you freeze your sperm and send it to me so my wife can bear your child?

Send a little extra so he play with it.

Send a little extra so he play with it.

I should be so lucky.

I've just been looking through the writings about this.
The spaceship two jalopy had no ejector seats.
Also, read this little beauty. Of course it will be normal stuff to the super scientists on here. 

During the press conference, it was stated that the rocket motor called RocketMotorTwo (RM2) had itself been flown in four previous flights but this was the first flight of version 2 now using a nylon-type plastic called thermoplastic polyamide, replacing the rubber-based fuel used by SpaceShipOne; ultimately too problematic for the SS2 design.



Also, I've been looking at the names of those involed with this project.
Get this.

Participating in the press conference were executives Kevin Mickey, CEO of Scaled Composites  , George Whitesides, CEO of Virgin Galactic  and Stu Witt (Stu Witt to woo), chief executive of Mojave Air and Space Port. 

They emphasized that the nylon-based rocket fuel and engine had been thoroughly tested on the ground and they were confident of its readiness for in-flight testing......They probably stuffed the tank full of black stockings. 

The executives did also emphasize once again that “space is hard.” This was first stated by President Kennedy during his famous speech at Rice University..... yet, if you ask Sunny Williams, Chris Hadfield and Cady Coleman, they will beg to differ. It's piss easy for these people and they bring guitars up and do sing songs with Earth choirs, etc. 

I'll see what other names I can find but up to now, we have someone taking the Mickey. A whiteknight "whitesides" and a nice Stu Witt to woo, owl...or basically stupid witt.
You decide.

Scaled composites, indeed. 

Why am I not in the least surprised to see this sort of puerile drivel posted by the forums' resident intellectual dwarf?   

Laughing at other people's names because they remind you of something funny was a game us schoolkids gave up at about age eight if I remember correctly.  I'm beginning to think that maybe sceptimatic does in fact suffer from some sort of arrested development?  (Now there's a good name for a TV show... oh... wait...)

I'm waiting for the guy to start coming up with "poo" and "wee" and "bottom" jokes next.  It's probably only a matter of time I guess?

Virgin Galactic, the company that's been offering flights to the very edge of space, has lost its prototype, rocket-powered spaceplane in an accident over California's Mojave Desert.

Doug Messier describes how he saw the spaceship explode in the air.


Seriously? 

Virgin Galactic, the company that's been offering flights to the very edge of space, has lost its prototype, rocket-powered spaceplane in an accident over California's Mojave Desert.

Doug Messier describes how he saw the spaceship explode in the air.


Seriously? 

It's a common french name. Just when I thought you couldn't top yourself.

More eye witnesses.

As soon as the release occurred, SpaceShipTwo turned upside down and kicked up as if it were going back in the direction of the mothership, says Wayne Rowley who was watching with his wife, Marlena. "It might have been 10 seconds" before the trouble began, far less than the two minutes into the flight that had been indicated Friday by officials.

"It separated and I thought, 'Not good,' " said Rowley, interviewed at his Mojave home by USA TODAY on Saturday. There was no explosion. He said the craft disappeared behind clouds and he couldn't see any more. He remarked to his wife at the time that something didn't look right.
Apart from the wane and the role and the lean...this Wayne Rowley with his little binoculars, saw the ship separate then disappear behind the clouds, then immediately knew something wasn't right.
Obviously he must have seen this stuff, time and time again to know this, eh? 

I just can't believe that our resident mental defective is still making with the kindergarten "jokes" about people's names as though it has some relevance to the topic at hand.

I can only think he's been doing to much of the ol' sippy, sippy of the red cordial LOL.

Although it does give him an obvious out in order to avoid addressing any of the questions raised on this thread.  Weak as cat's urine.  And dumber than a sack of hammers.   

with no ejector seat, the wearing of parachutes is either absurd or ridiculous.

perhaps after being thrown clear, the pilot came across a parachute in mid-air, coincidentally.

i wonder how many other pilots wear parachutes as standard practice, when no established method of leaving the aircraft in an emergency exists?

with no ejector seat, the wearing of parachutes is either absurd or ridiculous.

perhaps after being thrown clear, the pilot came across a parachute in mid-air, coincidentally.

i wonder how many other pilots wear parachutes as standard practice, when no established method of leaving the aircraft in an emergency exists?

You seriously think that it is ridiculous for a pilot to wear a suit that has a parachute in it?

Send a little extra so he play with it.

Looks like you are still dressed for your trip to kiwi land.

with no ejector seat, the wearing of parachutes is either absurd or ridiculous.

perhaps after being thrown clear, the pilot came across a parachute in mid-air, coincidentally.

i wonder how many other pilots wear parachutes as standard practice, when no established method of leaving the aircraft in an emergency exists?

Exactly. It's like saying to a jumbo jet pilot, " If your plane starts to fall apart - just hope that the cockpit splits open  and you can fall clear....now this is the reason why you're uncomfortable with a hump on your back. Oh, and bollocks to the passengers."   

What an absuloute crock of crap.

ronald, or richard McSpaceman

ronald, or richard McSpaceman

Yeah. And can you remember the round the world balloon bullshit with his trusted friend, who happened to later, do something on his own and perished.
I don't exactly know what the hell we are dealing with but one thing is for sure...whatever it is - isn't human in terms of emotions.

Psychopaths?

SpaceShipTwo did not have ejection seats, but there was an evacuation procedure.

Typically, the pilot would stay with the controls and the co-pilot would depressurize the cabin and then they would both unbuckle and bail out with their parachutes, said Brian Binnie, a former test pilot for Scaled Composites, which designed and built the craft for Virgin.

But an aircraft that violently tears apart around you isn’t something you prepare for.

“All bets are off. Now you’re back to DNA. What do you think is your next best move? If you’ve been knocked out or unconscious you don’t have a next best move,” said Binnie, who flew five times in the spaceship and knew the pilots. “Peter, whatever he did, in my mind, he had a patron saint of a particular strength or influence.”

Weaver, 85, is understated as he speaks of the event he called “kind of alarming.”

He attributes his survival to a miracle and also the protection his pressurized suit provided as he was ripped from his ejection seat. The suit kept his blood from boiling under the extreme pressure of the altitude, provided necessary oxygen and some degree of warmth to weather the nearly 15 mile-high fall.

Siebold and Alsbury didn’t have pressurized suits, Whitesides said, though they did have extra oxygen. Whitesides said he hadn’t spoken with Siebold yet.

As Weaver fell, he managed to open the iced-up face plate on his helmet to see where he was. At that point, his parachute chute deployed automatically and he was thrilled to see the canopy of his colleague, Jim Zwayer.

When he landed in the desert largely unscathed, however, he learned that Zwayer was dead. His neck had snapped when the plane ripped apart.

I don't have much commentary on this but I bet it sounds less absurd if I paste an article than it does when scepti does.

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 18, 2014, 02:57:29 PM

with no ejector seat, the wearing of parachutes is either absurd or ridiculous.

perhaps after being thrown clear, the pilot came across a parachute in mid-air, coincidentally.

i wonder how many other pilots wear parachutes as standard practice, when no established method of leaving the aircraft in an emergency exists?

Exactly. It's like saying to a jumbo jet pilot, " If your plane starts to fall apart - just hope that the cockpit splits open  and you can fall clear....now this is the reason why you're uncomfortable with a hump on your back. Oh, and bollocks to the passengers."   

What an absuloute crock of crap.

i just had a little look at standard procedures in experimental aircraft testing, and the wearing of a parachute is claimed to be common, if not uniform.

from memory i am sure i have seen pilots approaching/emerging from such flights minus a chute, but thats not really of any meaning.

but this is of course space plane testing, in planes that go into space, so protocols may differ......

the supposed break up was far too high to survive without pressure suits (if they are credible), which have been repeatedly stated as having not been worn.

but since mr bum gardener and his red bullshit balloon, who knows what advances have been made in imaginary pilot safety field?

i am surprised to not easily be able to find an in-flight, pilot webcam type of video, of any previous test flights.

to see if parachutes were in evidence.

cockpit cam, or just cock-cam.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 18, 2014, 03:31:14 PM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 18, 2014, 02:57:29 PM

with no ejector seat, the wearing of parachutes is either absurd or ridiculous.

perhaps after being thrown clear, the pilot came across a parachute in mid-air, coincidentally.

i wonder how many other pilots wear parachutes as standard practice, when no established method of leaving the aircraft in an emergency exists?

Exactly. It's like saying to a jumbo jet pilot, " If your plane starts to fall apart - just hope that the cockpit splits open  and you can fall clear....now this is the reason why you're uncomfortable with a hump on your back. Oh, and bollocks to the passengers."   

What an absuloute crock of crap.

i just had a little look at standard procedures in experimental aircraft testing, and the wearing of a parachute is claimed to be common, if not uniform.

from memory i am sure i have seen pilots approaching/emerging from such flights minus a chute, but thats not really of any meaning.

but this is of course space plane testing, in planes that go into space, so protocols may differ......

the supposed break up was far too high to survive without pressure suits (if they are credible), which have been repeatedly stated as having not been worn.

but since mr bum gardener and his red bullshit balloon, who knows what advances have been made in imaginary pilot safety field?

i am surprised to not easily be able to find an in-flight, pilot webcam type of video, of any previous test flights.

to see if parachutes were in evidence.

cockpit cam, or just cock-cam.

I think you're about there. Where I come from - it's BOLLOCKS cam. 

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 18, 2014, 03:31:32 PM

ronald, or richard McSpaceman

Yeah. And can you remember the round the world balloon bullshit with his trusted friend, who happened to later, do something on his own and perished.
I don't exactly know what the hell we are dealing with but one thing is for sure...whatever it is - isn't human in terms of emotions.

Psychopaths?

well, i dont really buy into the whole jung-fruedian stuff, but psychopath is a term intended to elicit some kind of fear in the non-psychopath that potentially encounters or in under the influence of the former.

i really like my ronald mcdonald/branson - jobs - zuckerberg et al. it may assist those struggling with the very concept of corporate marketing and human persona connection to a brand.

ronnie also provides a general term too, for the bransons and gates' of the promotional circus.

clowns.

i mean what are the nefarious aspects of the whole global media consumerist cluster-fuck?

fooling fools is just that, foolish.

only if one decides to believe any part at all do any victims of the charade become possible.

mid east wars.....really?

population cull.......no.

evil vaccines with dna altering brain control agenda?  by my method of reasoning they are most likely water.

nothing is happening, generally, and when asked to brace themselves for an uneventful life the reaction of the average human is bordering on panic.

it helps to explain, for me, the need for all the reassuring claims of almost total understanding of the universe, with constant warnings of impending doom - both personal and global/national.

to have to manage a huge herd of insipid, directionless, subservient creatures such as the human population must be very dull work; but at least its easy.

I think you're about there. Where I come from - it's BOLLOCKS cam.

And so poor old sceptimatic struggles ever onwards..... pitting his superior scientific know-how against the forces of evil and saving mankind from certain destruction at the hands of NASA and the Illuminati and the Jesuits LOL.

Ain't it funny how people with the lowest intellect often make the most noise?  Empty vessels and all that?

And we don't need any evidence other than conspiracy theorists like sceptimatic saying simply "it's all bollocks".  Gee... surely that should satisfy anyone?  Who needs silly stuff like mathematics and science and astrophysics when you've got sceptimatic?



Unfortunately, sceptimatic's never gonna see this table.  Not that he'd comprehend it anyway.   

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 18, 2014, 03:41:51 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 18, 2014, 03:31:14 PM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 18, 2014, 02:57:29 PM

with no ejector seat, the wearing of parachutes is either absurd or ridiculous.

perhaps after being thrown clear, the pilot came across a parachute in mid-air, coincidentally.

i wonder how many other pilots wear parachutes as standard practice, when no established method of leaving the aircraft in an emergency exists?

Exactly. It's like saying to a jumbo jet pilot, " If your plane starts to fall apart - just hope that the cockpit splits open  and you can fall clear....now this is the reason why you're uncomfortable with a hump on your back. Oh, and bollocks to the passengers."   

What an absuloute crock of crap.

i just had a little look at standard procedures in experimental aircraft testing, and the wearing of a parachute is claimed to be common, if not uniform.

from memory i am sure i have seen pilots approaching/emerging from such flights minus a chute, but thats not really of any meaning.

but this is of course space plane testing, in planes that go into space, so protocols may differ......

the supposed break up was far too high to survive without pressure suits (if they are credible), which have been repeatedly stated as having not been worn.

but since mr bum gardener and his red bullshit balloon, who knows what advances have been made in imaginary pilot safety field?

i am surprised to not easily be able to find an in-flight, pilot webcam type of video, of any previous test flights.

to see if parachutes were in evidence.

cockpit cam, or just cock-cam.

I think you're about there. Where I come from - it's BOLLOCKS cam. 

searches for either, even when 'virgin' is included, yield totally unrelated results.

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 18, 2014, 03:35:56 PM

Quote from: RuSpinningAround? on November 18, 2014, 03:31:32 PM

ronald, or richard McSpaceman

Yeah. And can you remember the round the world balloon bullshit with his trusted friend, who happened to later, do something on his own and perished.
I don't exactly know what the hell we are dealing with but one thing is for sure...whatever it is - isn't human in terms of emotions.

Psychopaths?

well, i dont really buy into the whole jung-fruedian stuff, but psychopath is a term intended to elicit some kind of fear in the non-psychopath that potentially encounters or in under the influence of the former.

i really like my ronald mcdonald/branson - jobs - zuckerberg et al. it may assist those struggling with the very concept of corporate marketing and human persona connection to a brand.

ronnie also provides a general term too, for the bransons and gates' of the promotional circus.

clowns.

i mean what are the nefarious aspects of the whole global media consumerist cluster-fuck?

fooling fools is just that, foolish.

only if one decides to believe any part at all do any victims of the charade become possible.

mid east wars.....really?

population cull.......no.

evil vaccines with dna altering brain control agenda?  by my method of reasoning they are most likely water.

nothing is happening, generally, and when asked to brace themselves for an uneventful life the reaction of the average human is bordering on panic.

it helps to explain, for me, the need for all the reassuring claims of almost total understanding of the universe, with constant warnings of impending doom - both personal and global/national.

to have to manage a huge herd of insipid, directionless, subservient creatures such as the human population must be very dull work; but at least its easy.

Yep, I agree. Maybe I didn't use the term "psychopaths" for the intended people I mentioned.

The people I mention are merely the meek bullshit  artists that thrive on the art of duping, with the end product of believing they're doing no physical harm...and so, can sleep at night.

Those who hold the strings are the ones I should have noted for what I mentioned.