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Rodney Baker

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Satellite Phones
« on: July 28, 2014, 08:52:28 AM »
If satellites don't exist, how do satellite phones work in remote areas not close to antenna towers, like in the middle of the ocean?

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 09:01:01 AM »
How did they manage communication before all this satellite nonsense?
How many ship are in the sea? How many ships are actually communication devices?

Loran and Decca communications are fine and have been for long enough. No need for fake satellites for anything we use today.

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 09:09:20 AM »
Pseudolites are very real, as sceptimatic said.  However, we can't discount Stratollites. 

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 09:16:20 AM »
Pseudolites are very real, as sceptimatic said.  However, we can't discount Stratollites.

Whats the difference between a pseudolite/stratollite/satellite?

Also you can see the ISS with a naked eye..?

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 09:18:02 AM »
The ISS gives us satellite phones?  You are very confusing. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 09:21:44 AM »
The ISS gives us satellite phones?  You are very confusing.
Where does he say that?

Meanwhile we know how satellite communication and GPS work.  Proven.

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 09:27:40 AM »
How did they manage communication before all this satellite nonsense?
How many ship are in the sea? How many ships are actually communication devices?

Loran and Decca communications are fine and have been for long enough. No need for fake satellites for anything we use today.
How do Loran and Decca give 3m accuracy across the whole earth?

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 09:41:53 AM »
The ISS gives us satellite phones?  You are very confusing.

No but if you're saying satellites don't exist.. (I'm assuming that from the first post of the thread).

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 10:06:49 AM »
How did they manage communication before all this satellite nonsense?
How many ship are in the sea? How many ships are actually communication devices?

Loran and Decca communications are fine and have been for long enough. No need for fake satellites for anything we use today.
How do Loran and Decca give 3m accuracy across the whole earth?
Have you personally checked this accuracy ALL over the Earth?

What about the places that they can't get decent signals. is that because they forgot to put a satellite near those places?

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 10:08:37 AM »
That's true...you do not need satellites to do what can be done with land based antennas, receivers and transmitters. In fact, in many ways it is better. It is just hard to believe that so many people work in the so called satellite industry and have not exposed the truth...they simply don't exist. 

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 10:10:14 AM »
The ISS gives us satellite phones?  You are very confusing.

No but if you're saying satellites don't exist.. (I'm assuming that from the first post of the thread).
You cannot see the ISS as any sort of defining shape. If you have done, then show me a picture of it.
You put too much faith in what other people tell you and just go along with it.
Whatever is in the sky, is in our atmosphere. Planes, balloons and such like. No space craft of any kind. Rest assured on that.

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 10:20:33 AM »
That's true...you do not need satellites to do what can be done with land based antennas, receivers and transmitters. In fact, in many ways it is better. It is just hard to believe that so many people work in the so called satellite industry and have not exposed the truth...they simply don't exist.
Most people that work in the satellite industry are merely dogs bodies. They have no more clue where the real signal is coming from than anyone else, except for those at the very top.
Signals can be bounced off the ionosphere and as you say, land based transmitters are all over the place, plus a sea full of communication satellites, known as ships.

All they done was conned us all into having a dish installed and a decoder, the  gave us what is already there, only we pay through the nose for it whilst they pretend the cost is because it's so expensive to put satellites into space. It's one hell of a ruse.

Why do you think they call it sky TV.

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 10:38:04 AM »
That's true...you do not need satellites to do what can be done with land based antennas, receivers and transmitters. In fact, in many ways it is better. It is just hard to believe that so many people work in the so called satellite industry and have not exposed the truth...they simply don't exist.
Most people that work in the satellite industry are merely dogs bodies. They have no more clue where the real signal is coming from than anyone else, except for those at the very top.
Signals can be bounced off the ionosphere and as you say, land based transmitters are all over the place, plus a sea full of communication satellites, known as ships.

All they done was conned us all into having a dish installed and a decoder, the  gave us what is already there, only we pay through the nose for it whilst they pretend the cost is because it's so expensive to put satellites into space. It's one hell of a ruse.

Why do you think they call it sky TV.
So what do satellite dishes do?

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Rodney Baker

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 10:47:39 AM »
Septi,

How do you explain sky TV when the directional dishes are pointed towards the sky were no transmitting antennas are located? Do you believe a signal is bounced off the ionosphere to the dishes?

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 10:52:49 AM »
That's true...you do not need satellites to do what can be done with land based antennas, receivers and transmitters. In fact, in many ways it is better. It is just hard to believe that so many people work in the so called satellite industry and have not exposed the truth...they simply don't exist.
Most people that work in the satellite industry are merely dogs bodies. They have no more clue where the real signal is coming from than anyone else, except for those at the very top.
Signals can be bounced off the ionosphere and as you say, land based transmitters are all over the place, plus a sea full of communication satellites, known as ships.

All they done was conned us all into having a dish installed and a decoder, the  gave us what is already there, only we pay through the nose for it whilst they pretend the cost is because it's so expensive to put satellites into space. It's one hell of a ruse.

Why do you think they call it sky TV.
So what do satellite dishes do?
They just pick up a signal just like an aerial would do from gound based transmitters, then use a decoder box in your room to con you into believing you're getting it from a satellite.

You even have to adjust a TV aerial on your roof for the best signal. All you dish is doing is having to channel that signal to the reciever, then your decoder unscrambles the signal if you've paid for it.

All this accurate alignment to a satellite is absolute bollocks. As long as your dish can catch the signal and rebound it accurately to the reciever, you're fine. It's a little bit more tricky than adjuting a TV aerial but not that much if you have the angle reasonably right.

Do you want to find out how easy it is to do?

Anyone that wants proof of what I'm saying and is willing to try this out PM me , then you will know for sure what you're dealing with.

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2014, 10:58:16 AM »
That's true...you do not need satellites to do what can be done with land based antennas, receivers and transmitters. In fact, in many ways it is better. It is just hard to believe that so many people work in the so called satellite industry and have not exposed the truth...they simply don't exist.
Most people that work in the satellite industry are merely dogs bodies. They have no more clue where the real signal is coming from than anyone else, except for those at the very top.
Signals can be bounced off the ionosphere and as you say, land based transmitters are all over the place, plus a sea full of communication satellites, known as ships.

All they done was conned us all into having a dish installed and a decoder, the  gave us what is already there, only we pay through the nose for it whilst they pretend the cost is because it's so expensive to put satellites into space. It's one hell of a ruse.

Why do you think they call it sky TV.
So what do satellite dishes do?
They just pick up a signal just like an aerial would do from gound based transmitters, then use a decoder box in your room to con you into believing you're getting it from a satellite.

You even have to adjust a TV aerial on your roof for the best signal. All you dish is doing is having to channel that signal to the reciever, then your decoder unscrambles the signal if you've paid for it.

All this accurate alignment to a satellite is absolute bollocks. As long as your dish can catch the signal and rebound it accurately to the reciever, you're fine. It's a little bit more tricky than adjuting a TV aerial but not that much if you have the angle reasonably right.

Do you want to find out how easy it is to do?

Anyone that wants proof of what I'm saying and is willing to try this out PM me , then you will know for sure what you're dealing with.
Where are the tranmitters, given that all dishes point to a position over the equator for a given service?

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Re: Satellite Phones
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2014, 11:01:03 AM »
Septi,

How do you explain sky TV when the directional dishes are pointed towards the sky were no transmitting antennas are located? Do you believe a signal is bounced off the ionosphere to the dishes?
Not just that. You think there's no transmitters located but if you were to go looking you would find that there is. It's just relays and repeaters and boosters, etc. All ground based.

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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2014, 11:14:25 AM »
That's true...you do not need satellites to do what can be done with land based antennas, receivers and transmitters. In fact, in many ways it is better. It is just hard to believe that so many people work in the so called satellite industry and have not exposed the truth...they simply don't exist.
Most people that work in the satellite industry are merely dogs bodies. They have no more clue where the real signal is coming from than anyone else, except for those at the very top.
Signals can be bounced off the ionosphere and as you say, land based transmitters are all over the place, plus a sea full of communication satellites, known as ships.

All they done was conned us all into having a dish installed and a decoder, the  gave us what is already there, only we pay through the nose for it whilst they pretend the cost is because it's so expensive to put satellites into space. It's one hell of a ruse.

Why do you think they call it sky TV.
So what do satellite dishes do?
They just pick up a signal just like an aerial would do from gound based transmitters, then use a decoder box in your room to con you into believing you're getting it from a satellite.

You even have to adjust a TV aerial on your roof for the best signal. All you dish is doing is having to channel that signal to the reciever, then your decoder unscrambles the signal if you've paid for it.

All this accurate alignment to a satellite is absolute bollocks. As long as your dish can catch the signal and rebound it accurately to the reciever, you're fine. It's a little bit more tricky than adjuting a TV aerial but not that much if you have the angle reasonably right.

Do you want to find out how easy it is to do?

Anyone that wants proof of what I'm saying and is willing to try this out PM me , then you will know for sure what you're dealing with.
Where are the tranmitters, given that all dishes point to a position over the equator for a given service?
For a given service? It's just transmitters feeding areas. It's just scrambled signals passed off as directional satellite crap. You can't watch it unless you have a decoder just like the built in decoder in your free view TV that allows you to have what they decide.

It should be blatantly obvious that satellites do not exist.
Who's sending them up now that the fake shuttles out of service, because Russia has only been sending circus clowns up to the fake station aided by flute playing, guitar playing goon actors pretending they're trained astronauts.

Why stick something 23,000 miles into space that cannot be reached for repair and all work fine despite the harsh so called environment and yet there's absolutely no back up at all to race any satellites up to replace should some break?

It's so ridiculous it shouldn't even need much thought to see how bloody stupid it all is.
You'll soon see how ridiculous it all was and is when they start to decommission them...but not before telling you that your will soon lose your sky services, unless you want to change to a new invention that has managed to harvest blah blah blah signals from (add in any old scrotum) but it will cost you another 200 a year.

All you will get from that point is what you've been getting all along, except your sky TV dish will be replaced by cable what many already have, except that this will be passed off as something entirely new.

If people can't see how they rip the absolute piss out of you, then I feel sorry for you.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2014, 11:19:10 AM »
You're a textbook example of the argument from incredulity. It almost looks and reads like a parody and I would believe it is if I didn't know better.

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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2014, 11:31:28 AM »
How did they manage communication before all this satellite nonsense?
How many ship are in the sea? How many ships are actually communication devices?

Loran and Decca communications are fine and have been for long enough. No need for fake satellites for anything we use today.

Your worthless opinion on whether they are necessary doesn't stop them from existing.
Giess what? I am a tin foil hat conspiracy lunatic who knows nothing... See what I'm getting at here?

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2014, 11:38:50 AM »
This is an interesting point. At my location, here on earth, I have to point my dish almost directly west and just off the horizon to pick up the signal. I live on the east cost of the U.S., why don't I point the dish south? Isn't that where the equator is located?

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2014, 11:49:08 AM »
This is an interesting point. At my location, here on earth, I have to point my dish almost directly west and just off the horizon to pick up the signal. I live on the east cost of the U.S., why don't I point the dish south? Isn't that where the equator is located?
Here's something to try out. Go around your neighbourhood and as you do, take a look at the satellite dishes. Now you'll have a wide area from where they point.
From there, drive in the opposite direction and look for a transmitter. It could be on a massive hill or whatever, or even on some tall building.

As you keep going that way, keep looking at the dishes to see if any have changed angle, because there won't only be one transmitter. They will be relayed, just like your mobile phone towers are.

Sniff around and it just might open your eyes. I guarantee you there are no space satellites.

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2014, 12:00:16 PM »
My satellite dish points towards space with no possibility if a hill or tall building in its path and cannot vary its position by more than a few millimeters or it loses its signal.
Aether is the  characteristic of action or inaction of charged  & noncharged particals.

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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2014, 12:08:09 PM »
You must live near the equator.

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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2014, 12:18:08 PM »
You must live near the equator.

Canada. It is at about a 35 degree inclination and points SW, missing the skyscrapers downtown and pointing towards Lake Ontario.
Aether is the  characteristic of action or inaction of charged  & noncharged particals.

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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2014, 12:34:44 PM »
For DirecTV, I'm 38 deg. You point lower then me in the sky. Are you sure you can't be picking up a signal from a microwave antenna on a building in your area?

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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2014, 02:00:36 PM »
For DirecTV, I'm 38 deg. You point lower then me in the sky. Are you sure you can't be picking up a signal from a microwave antenna on a building in your area?
Satellite dishes do NOT pick up from what you call a microwave antenna.

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2014, 02:06:36 PM »
This is an interesting point. At my location, here on earth, I have to point my dish almost directly west and just off the horizon to pick up the signal. I live on the east cost of the U.S., why don't I point the dish south? Isn't that where the equator is located?
Here's something to try out. Go around your neighbourhood and as you do, take a look at the satellite dishes. Now you'll have a wide area from where they point.
From there, drive in the opposite direction and look for a transmitter. It could be on a massive hill or whatever, or even on some tall building.

As you keep going that way, keep looking at the dishes to see if any have changed angle, because there won't only be one transmitter. They will be relayed, just like your mobile phone towers are.

Sniff around and it just might open your eyes. I guarantee you there are no space satellites.
You are in the UK, all Sky dishes point in the same direction, southish towards the Astra satellites at 28.3e.  Aerials on roofs point to terrestial transmitters on hills etc.

Disconnect the terrestial aerial and those channels go.  Disconnect the dish connection to the set topbox and those channels go.  Move the dish slightly and the signal goes.

Note that for those that have cable tv is different.

All well documented and verified.

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Rodney Baker

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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2014, 02:09:20 PM »
What I mean is...satellites would use an antenna, cut for microwave frequencies, to transmit signals to the earth. A receiving antenna, cut for microwave frequencies, would receive that signal.

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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2014, 02:15:22 PM »
What I mean is...satellites would use an antenna, cut for microwave frequencies, to transmit signals to the earth. A receiving antenna, cut for microwave frequencies, would receive that signal.
How satellite tv works is well documented.