So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed

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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #120 on: August 09, 2014, 01:31:24 PM »
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #121 on: August 09, 2014, 04:25:52 PM »
I find it amusing how conspiracy nutters assume that the less their information sources have to do with NASA, other space agencies, official sources (you know, the sources that you'd expect would have the most complete information about the subject), the more accurate and trustworthy they must be.  ::)
And I find it bizarre that a country that was engaged in a war that cost it  58,100 lives 303,644wounded & Billions of dollars in conflict costs. Just happened to be engaged in rocketing  to the moon at the same time. Are Americans that  gullible  they believe any & all bullshit their Government feeds them with out question.?
There is something seriously wrong with a persons IQ, not to even entertain the notion the moon landings were more probable to of been faked.         
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #122 on: August 09, 2014, 04:59:48 PM »
I find it amusing how conspiracy nutters assume that the less their information sources have to do with NASA, other space agencies, official sources (you know, the sources that you'd expect would have the most complete information about the subject), the more accurate and trustworthy they must be.  ::)
And I find it bizarre that a country that was engaged in a war that cost it  58,100 lives 303,644wounded & Billions of dollars in conflict costs. Just happened to be engaged in rocketing  to the moon at the same time. Are Americans that  gullible  they believe any & all bullshit their Government feeds them with out question.?
There is something seriously wrong with a persons IQ, not to even entertain the notion the moon landings were more probable to of been faked.         
There is something wrong with a persons IQ if they don't entertain the notion the moon landings were fake? How about there wasn't something wrong with a persons IQ so he engineered a space shuttle.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #123 on: August 09, 2014, 07:21:07 PM »
  Like taking us through how "they" convinced the 536 people from 35 different countries to lie about their space travel?  Or how the conspiracy is maintained across the 11 countries who now have launch capabilities?  Or how 10s of thousands of private companies think they are paying for commercial satellite use when in fact it is just sorcery used by the conspiracy?

Pro-tip: bring some actual evidence, not hand waving bullshit.

It is easy to launch a rocket/satellite = fireworks. But it is impossible to get down alive from space to Earth. You simply burn up. So the 536 persons from 35 different countries that have managed to visit space and then come back on Earth simply lie to keep their jobs.

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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #124 on: August 09, 2014, 07:46:00 PM »
  Like taking us through how "they" convinced the 536 people from 35 different countries to lie about their space travel?  Or how the conspiracy is maintained across the 11 countries who now have launch capabilities?  Or how 10s of thousands of private companies think they are paying for commercial satellite use when in fact it is just sorcery used by the conspiracy?

Pro-tip: bring some actual evidence, not hand waving bullshit.

It is easy to launch a rocket/satellite = fireworks. But it is impossible to get down alive from space to Earth. You simply burn up. So the 536 persons from 35 different countries that have managed to visit space and then come back on Earth simply lie to keep their jobs.

Fascinating. You must have done a significant amount of research to discover that the hundreds of astronauts who have successfully landed back on Earth from orbit actually all burned up.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #125 on: August 09, 2014, 10:49:19 PM »

Fascinating. You must have done a significant amount of research to discover that the hundreds of astronauts who have successfully landed back on Earth from orbit actually all burned up.

Correct! And the result is shown on my popular web page - link given on page 3 of this thread. Anybody saying he/she has been in space is therefore lying. You know the job market for asstronuts is small and they do anything to get the job, incl. lying and acting.

Similar to all physicists suggesting that atomic bombs work. They lie. And their job market is minimal too. Atomic bomb designer! Only idiots aim for such crazy work. Most physicists get jobs as physics teachers and it is not well paid. But they cannot maintain atomic bombs are fake. Then they lose their badly paid jobs too.

As you maybe know I offer a €1 million reward to anyone showing that I am wrong. The Challenge is on since many years and nobody has collected it. Have a try yourself.

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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #126 on: August 10, 2014, 12:32:44 AM »

Fascinating. You must have done a significant amount of research to discover that the hundreds of astronauts who have successfully landed back on Earth from orbit actually all burned up.

Correct! And the result is shown on my popular web page - link given on page 3 of this thread. Anybody saying he/she has been in space is therefore lying. You know the job market for asstronuts is small and they do anything to get the job, incl. lying and acting.

Your web page is long on incredulity and short on facts. You not understanding how it was possible is not an argument. You not believing it was possible is not an argument. You asserting that NASA is lying, is idiotic, is fake etc. is not an argument. To base your accusation of astronauts lying on a bunch of incredulity and other non-arguments would be laughable if it weren't so insulting.

As far as your idea of the astronaut "job market" goes, that's just stupid. There weren't a bunch of wannabee astronauts looking for a job that didn't exist, you imbecile. The astronaut program selected from the already existing pool of pilots the ones best suited for job and gave them the required training.

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Similar to all physicists suggesting that atomic bombs work. They lie. And their job market is minimal too. Atomic bomb designer! Only idiots aim for such crazy work. Most physicists get jobs as physics teachers and it is not well paid. But they cannot maintain atomic bombs are fake. Then they lose their badly paid jobs too.

Of course you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about, but suffice to say this is off topic and there are plenty of other atomic energy/weapons threads on this site you can purvey this nonsense in.

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As you maybe know I offer a €1 million reward to anyone showing that I am wrong. The Challenge is on since many years and nobody has collected it. Have a try yourself.

Your "challenges" are ludricrous and have nothing to do with the reality they purport to refute, obviously, but again, this 911 truther crap has nothing to do with Buzz Aldrin and the Apollo program. There are plenty of threads where this might be an appropriate topic, but this isn't one of them.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #127 on: August 10, 2014, 03:11:42 AM »


It is easy to launch a rocket/satellite = fireworks. But it is impossible to get down alive from space to Earth. You simply burn up. So the 536 persons from 35 different countries that have managed to visit space and then come back on Earth simply lie to keep their jobs.
I'll remind you of what I said:

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Pro-tip: bring some actual evidence, not hand waving bullshit.
You appear to have done the exact opposite of that request.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #128 on: August 10, 2014, 05:17:26 AM »
I find it amusing how conspiracy nutters assume that the less their information sources have to do with NASA, other space agencies, official sources (you know, the sources that you'd expect would have the most complete information about the subject), the more accurate and trustworthy they must be.  ::)
And I find it bizarre that a country that was engaged in a war that cost it  58,100 lives 303,644wounded & Billions of dollars in conflict costs. Just happened to be engaged in rocketing  to the moon at the same time. Are Americans that  gullible  they believe any & all bullshit their Government feeds them with out question.?
There is something seriously wrong with a persons IQ, not to even entertain the notion the moon landings were more probable to of been faked.         
There is something wrong with a persons IQ if they don't entertain the notion the moon landings were fake? How about there wasn't something wrong with a persons IQ so he engineered a space shuttle.
You mean like this bullshit " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
23 miles up main booster separates that's 121,440 ft. 37.0149 km. That's less then half way to the edge of  space. So where is the rest of the magic fuel coming  from to at lest power it the next 27miles to the edge of space.?   
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #129 on: August 10, 2014, 06:37:05 AM »
It's a ballistic trajectory. Like a bullet. Impart enough force in a relatively short time and it has enough velocity to make the rest of the journey, especially once in space where there is no drag force. This is why escape velocity even exists as a concept.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #130 on: August 10, 2014, 07:03:30 AM »
In regards to what's his face's comment that physicists are unemployable or whatever. How about engineer's? You know the ones who take physicist's ideas and build them?  They are eminently employable and can make a lot of money in all sorts of industries. 
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #131 on: August 10, 2014, 07:34:34 AM »
It's a ballistic trajectory. Like a bullet. Impart enough force in a relatively short time and it has enough velocity to make the rest of the journey, especially once in space where there is no drag force. This is why escape velocity even exists as a concept.
Everyone knows that is bunk!!! ::)  I mean as soon as you let off the gas in a car it comes to a dead stop.  As soon as a bullet exits the muzzle, it comes to a dead stop.  Its not like things keep going for a bit after the force has been applied to them.  What kind of hogwash are you spewing!!!! ;D



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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #132 on: August 10, 2014, 08:46:35 AM »
I find it amusing how conspiracy nutters assume that the less their information sources have to do with NASA, other space agencies, official sources (you know, the sources that you'd expect would have the most complete information about the subject), the more accurate and trustworthy they must be.  ::)
And I find it bizarre that a country that was engaged in a war that cost it  58,100 lives 303,644wounded & Billions of dollars in conflict costs. Just happened to be engaged in rocketing  to the moon at the same time. Are Americans that  gullible  they believe any & all bullshit their Government feeds them with out question.?
There is something seriously wrong with a persons IQ, not to even entertain the notion the moon landings were more probable to of been faked.         
There is something wrong with a persons IQ if they don't entertain the notion the moon landings were fake? How about there wasn't something wrong with a persons IQ so he engineered a space shuttle.
You mean like this bullshit " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
23 miles up main booster separates that's 121,440 ft. 37.0149 km. That's less then half way to the edge of  space. So where is the rest of the magic fuel coming  from to at lest power it the next 27miles to the edge of space.?   
Those were the solid boosters. They run out fast as they are made from massive thrust. The big red tank is still liquid fuel going to the space shuttle's engines. Are you really that dumb that you can't figure this out?
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #133 on: August 10, 2014, 08:54:35 AM »
I find it amusing how conspiracy nutters assume that the less their information sources have to do with NASA, other space agencies, official sources (you know, the sources that you'd expect would have the most complete information about the subject), the more accurate and trustworthy they must be.  ::)
And I find it bizarre that a country that was engaged in a war that cost it  58,100 lives 303,644wounded & Billions of dollars in conflict costs. Just happened to be engaged in rocketing  to the moon at the same time. Are Americans that  gullible  they believe any & all bullshit their Government feeds them with out question.?
There is something seriously wrong with a persons IQ, not to even entertain the notion the moon landings were more probable to of been faked.         
There is something wrong with a persons IQ if they don't entertain the notion the moon landings were fake? How about there wasn't something wrong with a persons IQ so he engineered a space shuttle.
You mean like this bullshit " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
23 miles up main booster separates that's 121,440 ft. 37.0149 km. That's less then half way to the edge of  space. So where is the rest of the magic fuel coming  from to at lest power it the next 27miles to the edge of space.?   
Those were the solid boosters. They run out fast as they are made from massive thrust. The big red tank is still liquid fuel going to the space shuttle's engines. Are you really that dumb that you can't figure this out?

No need for that is there?  Ignorance != lack of intelligence.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #134 on: August 10, 2014, 10:10:29 AM »
If you think that markjo posted that tongue-in-cheek, then why do you feel compelled to comment on it?

I pointed out that The Onion is a purely satirical news source, lest some members here weren't familiar with its modus operandi, and mistakenly assumed the posting about Neil Armstrong's spacewalk refutation was actually legitimate.  I offered the "tongue in cheek" rider in order not to possibly insult markjo's intelligence.

Also, is there any particular reason you post so many inconsequential, off-topic one liners jroa?  Or were you too fooled by The Onion's satirical piece about Armstrong?  Oh dear.  Sprung again LOL.



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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #135 on: August 10, 2014, 10:55:13 AM »

Another one of Charles Bloomington's "heroes" LOL.

Check out this site for a neat demolition job of Heiwa's silly claims:  The Unique World of Anders Bjorkman (Heiwa).

The guy is a confirmed liar, and has no engineering qualification—other than the ones he's made up.  Some of his various claims are so bizarre that one can only assume he's suffering from some sort of as-yet undiagnosed psychiatric condition.  Possibly gross misrepresentations or delusions of reality—which are a common symptom of schizophrenia and other psychoses.

One of his claims?  That the WTC towers were "very much like cheese".  I kid you not!   ;D

Whatever; we can safely ignore any of his rantings on this forum.




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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #136 on: August 10, 2014, 11:23:44 AM »

Another one of Charles Bloomington's "heroes" LOL.

Check out this site for a neat demolition job of Heiwa's silly claims:  The Unique World of Anders Bjorkman (Heiwa).

The guy is a confirmed liar, and has no engineering qualification—other than the ones he's made up.  Some of his various claims are so bizarre that one can only assume he's suffering from some sort of as-yet undiagnosed psychiatric condition.  Possibly gross misrepresentations or delusions of reality—which are a common symptom of schizophrenia and other psychoses.

One of his claims?  That the WTC towers were "very much like cheese".  I kid you not!   ;D

Whatever; we can safely ignore any of his rantings on this forum.

That's excellent. Heiwa thinks rigid steel structures are indestructible "by definition" and can therefore withstand a nuclear blast:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4315786&postcount=16
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So this is the level that Heiwa is arguing at. Like I said after reading some of his site - it's nothing but arguments from incredulity and ignorance. "200 degree surface temp on the Moon? Impossible, the boots would melt! Nuclear physics? That's ridiculous!" All complete non-arguments. And his "challenges" are just another ruse. He whips them out as soon as you try to argue against him, as though if you can't pass his challenges then his argument must be right. As far as I can tell his challenges are experiments loosely based on the Twin Towers' destruction, and have little to do with the actual events, except very superficially.

All that said, I look forward to Heiwa's input here. I'd love to see a "discussion" between him and sceptimatic. ;)
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #137 on: August 10, 2014, 12:07:22 PM »

All that said, I look forward to Heiwa's input here. I'd love to see a "discussion" between him and sceptimatic. ;)

I'm guessing that any conversation between Heiwa and sceptimatic would probably end up like THIS.


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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #138 on: August 10, 2014, 12:15:49 PM »
Two loose nuts? we better torque them up. We need charlie boy.

Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2014, 12:56:42 AM »
It's a ballistic trajectory. Like a bullet. Impart enough force in a relatively short time and it has enough velocity to make the rest of the journey, especially once in space where there is no drag force. This is why escape velocity even exists as a concept.
LOL after  23mile 121,440 ft. your not even half way & every ft farther requires more acceleration. 
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2014, 01:05:05 AM »

Another one of Charles Bloomington's "heroes" LOL.

Check out this site for a neat demolition job of Heiwa's silly claims:  The Unique World of Anders Bjorkman (Heiwa).

The guy is a confirmed liar, and has no engineering qualification—other than the ones he's made up.  Some of his various claims are so bizarre that one can only assume he's suffering from some sort of as-yet undiagnosed psychiatric condition.  Possibly gross misrepresentations or delusions of reality—which are a common symptom of schizophrenia and other psychoses.

One of his claims?  That the WTC towers were "very much like cheese".  I kid you not!   ;D

Whatever; we can safely ignore any of his rantings on this forum.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2014, 01:57:53 AM »

Another one of Charles Bloomington's "heroes" LOL.

Check out this site for a neat demolition job of Heiwa's silly claims:  The Unique World of Anders Bjorkman (Heiwa).

The guy is a confirmed liar, and has no engineering qualification—other than the ones he's made up.  Some of his various claims are so bizarre that one can only assume he's suffering from some sort of as-yet undiagnosed psychiatric condition.  Possibly gross misrepresentations or delusions of reality—which are a common symptom of schizophrenia and other psychoses.

One of his claims?  That the WTC towers were "very much like cheese".  I kid you not!   ;D

Whatever; we can safely ignore any of his rantings on this forum.
Reads like a made up character assassination to me Geoff . Anyone in engineering knows a plane made up of aluminium would not slice though the beams of those buildings. I suggest you set up an aluminium blade in a 500t brake press & see if it will fold a 20mm piece of plate made up of the same carbon steel as the beams of the twin towers  or better still a guillotine with an aluminium blade. You should know what Thermite is Geoff ? After all that railway line experience you claim to of had.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2014, 03:07:35 AM »
Charlie I bet someone comes up with a bomb full of jet fuel just for buildings.

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« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2014, 04:08:59 AM »
Charlie I bet someone comes up with a bomb full of jet fuel just for buildings.
Well if you wish to believe the official story of 911. That's your prerogative.Do I have an opinion on the events of that day & who was responsible, No!. However I'm not that naive to believe planes bought those buildings crashing  down.
steering away from that subject. What's your take on this you tube clip.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2014, 04:34:24 AM »
Charlie that is what I would expect to see.

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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2014, 04:51:35 AM »
Charlie I bet someone comes up with a bomb full of jet fuel just for buildings.
Well if you wish to believe the official story of 911. That's your prerogative.Do I have an opinion on the events of that day & who was responsible, No!. However I'm not that naive to believe planes bought those buildings crashing  down.
steering away from that subject. What's your take on this you tube clip.
from a spherical earth prospective. " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">       
Piss off with the 911 crap charlie, there are loads of other forums for morons to talk about that drivel.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2014, 04:56:51 AM »
Charlie that is what I would expect to see.
What no curvature ?. Well that makes for a flat earth. The optics of the car appearing that it is travelling above the horizon, confirms what I have always suspected causes the illusion of ships appearing to sail over the horizon. That being speed variants between  ship ,water surface, wind speed,direction & light intensity. Not the BS earth curvature.             
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2014, 04:59:06 AM »
Charlie I bet someone comes up with a bomb full of jet fuel just for buildings.
Well if you wish to believe the official story of 911. That's your prerogative.Do I have an opinion on the events of that day & who was responsible, No!. However I'm not that naive to believe planes bought those buildings crashing  down.
steering away from that subject. What's your take on this you tube clip.
from a spherical earth prospective. " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">       
Piss off with the 911 crap charlie, there are loads of other forums for morons to talk about that drivel.
Take it up with your mate Geoff he dragged it in to the thread . Ya soft cock retarded American. 
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2014, 05:00:11 AM »
Ya soft cock retarded American.
I'm British, and my cock is rock hard.  As you well know Charlie boy.
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Re: So I guess Buzz Aldrin is still brainwashed
« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2014, 05:01:29 AM »
Ya soft cock retarded American.
I'm British, and my cock is rock hard.  As you well know Charlie boy.
Well if ya want to get places in this world Jimmy. Try bathing with soap. Its not the enemy you know Ya @*%# stinking POM 
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