Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #600 on: May 02, 2014, 05:13:41 AM »
Did you give them a hand taking off the reactor top? Did they show you anything fissioning?

And once again you show your complete ignorance of the functioning of a nuclear reactor.  One cannot simply "take off the top of the reactor"  LOL.

Well, not unless you're a psychopath that wants to kill half the population of Sydney.   ;D

And the fission process is actually not visible to the naked eye (although it can be seen in what's called a "cloud chamber" on a laboratory bench). 

I'm really surprised that for someone who allegedly carried out a sophisticated experiment using expensive laser gear across a 2,000 metre stretch of flat ice in order to prove the earth was flat, you don't even understand the very basics of nuclear fission, or how its harnessed to produce electricity.

Incidentally, I still haven't seen any reports in any of the science journals about your laser/ice sheet experimental results.  Why is that?  Have you submitted them to any of these journals for peer review in order to confirm your research results yet?  And if you haven't, why then not?  I would've thought by now you would've received world-wide notoriety for actually proving what Samuel Rowbotham tried to prove all those years ago.  And you'd also totally disprove the round earth model at the same time.

And I note that you've still not defined the units of measurement for your "denpressure" hypothesis, or explained whether it's a scalar quantity or a vector quantity.  Is "denpressure" involved in any way with nuclear fission and/or fusion at an atomic level?
 

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« Reply #601 on: May 02, 2014, 05:17:26 AM »
You can use chemistry to analyze samples. You can see the composition change. Fresh yellow cake is emits almost no gamma radiation. But check a sample of yellow cake that has been sitting for 20 years and it emits a great amount of gamma radiation.
Of course it does. If you sit a chunk of cadolizion in a container of chlorhalvazide for 12 years, it emits huge amounts of mozza radiation, which is capable of fissioning and producing heat for 50 years from just one 50 gram block. It is amazing stuff.
What I said was actually true. I have seen it myself. You wouldn't know as you just sit at your chair.
Over 15 years ago I did an experiment in school to see alpha particles. Here is a video showing how you can see radiation. I'm still not sure why you think it's fantasy.
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No, it was not a guess. They knew chain reactions happen. They knew the energy of the alpha particle. The predicted it had enough energy to split an atom. They knew they needed a higher concentration of uranium 235 to get the chain reaction working. Then they were able to test it.
What do you mean, they knew the energy of the alpha particle and PREDICTED it had enough energy to split an atom. Do you realise what you're saying.
They can't see this stuff and yet they simply predict stuff, then bang, a chain reaction.
Can't you see how bloody stupid this all is?
Alpha particles have a known energy. Do you think they just guessed?  They used uranium as it is a big atom.  Most alpha emitting particles emit alpha particles because they are too big and thus are unstable. Doyou realize what you are saying? Can't you bloody see people do science for a living?
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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #602 on: May 02, 2014, 05:57:00 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.

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« Reply #603 on: May 02, 2014, 06:06:40 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.
Unless you have a nuclear engineering degree you opinion has no value. In fact asking questions like that shows us you NEED to visit the nuclear power station. Don't you think asking question to an expert would give you the exact answer.

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« Reply #604 on: May 02, 2014, 06:13:21 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.

I note that you've chosen to avoid addressing my perfectly legitimate questions sceptimatic... again.
 


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Incidentally, I still haven't seen any reports in any of the science journals about your laser/ice sheet experimental results.  Why is that?  Have you submitted them to any of these journals for peer review in order to confirm your research results yet?  And if you haven't, why then not?  I would've thought by now you would've received world-wide notoriety for actually proving what Samuel Rowbotham tried to prove all those years ago.  And you'd also totally disprove the round earth model at the same time.

And I note that you've still not defined the units of measurement for your "denpressure" hypothesis, or explained whether it's a scalar quantity or a vector quantity.  Is "denpressure" involved in any way with nuclear fission and/or fusion at an atomic level?

What are you afraid of?  Why no answers yet?  Or was the whole "experiment" thing bullshit from day one?
 

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #605 on: May 02, 2014, 06:17:08 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.
Unless you have a nuclear engineering degree you opinion has no value. In fact asking questions like that shows us you NEED to visit the nuclear power station. Don't you think asking question to an expert would give you the exact answer.
Answer these questions, see where we gets to.

Do you think if I ask an expert about the moon, he/she will tell me all about the moon?
Do you think if I ask an expert about man landing on the moon he/she will tell me all about it?
Do you think if I ask an expert about the mars landers, he/she will tell me all about it?
Do you think if I ask an expert about what gravity is, he/she will tell me?
And so on and so on and so on.

Do you think if I ask an expert on nuclear power, he/she will tell me?

I'll answer for you:
Of course they will tell me all about it. Now should I just accept that, even though it all appears extremely questionable?

Should I just accept what they all say is true, then just be on my merry way accepting anything told to me, like a small child waiting for santa to land on his roof?

Give your head a massive shake. There's a reason I'm questioning stuff. If there wasn't a reason, then I wouldn't be questioning.
Just because you sit and suck your lollipop whilst kicking your little feet on a chair, believing anything told to you doesn't mean you are right. It means you have spent your whole life being a naive, gullible person.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #606 on: May 02, 2014, 06:18:48 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.

I note that you've chosen to avoid addressing my perfectly legitimate questions sceptimatic... again.
 


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Incidentally, I still haven't seen any reports in any of the science journals about your laser/ice sheet experimental results.  Why is that?  Have you submitted them to any of these journals for peer review in order to confirm your research results yet?  And if you haven't, why then not?  I would've thought by now you would've received world-wide notoriety for actually proving what Samuel Rowbotham tried to prove all those years ago.  And you'd also totally disprove the round earth model at the same time.

And I note that you've still not defined the units of measurement for your "denpressure" hypothesis, or explained whether it's a scalar quantity or a vector quantity.  Is "denpressure" involved in any way with nuclear fission and/or fusion at an atomic level?

What are you afraid of?  Why no answers yet?  Or was the whole "experiment" thing bullshit from day one?
I've had some excellent feed back from mods and admin over the experiment. They love it and say it is solid proof that the Earth is not a globe.
I offered to show you it in a pm and you refused, so don't start whining about it now.

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« Reply #607 on: May 02, 2014, 06:35:26 AM »
Where is the data? You can make all the claims you want but until you don't back it up with some evidence they remain as claims with no value whatsoever. You made no experiment (or it showed you wrong).
I have yet to see evidence that Lunar Eclipses even exist.  Have you ever seen one?

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« Reply #608 on: May 02, 2014, 06:40:37 AM »
Where is the data? You can make all the claims you want but until you don't back it up with some evidence they remain as claims with no value whatsoever. You made no experiment (or it showed you wrong).
That was all I was making from the off. Claims.
I have no evidence. I have no more evidence to prove it's false than you have to prove it's true, PERSONALLY.

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« Reply #609 on: May 02, 2014, 06:53:22 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.
Unless you have a nuclear engineering degree you opinion has no value. In fact asking questions like that shows us you NEED to visit the nuclear power station. Don't you think asking question to an expert would give you the exact answer.
Answer these questions, see where we gets to.

Do you think if I ask an expert about the moon, he/she will tell me all about the moon?
Do you think if I ask an expert about man landing on the moon he/she will tell me all about it?
Do you think if I ask an expert about the mars landers, he/she will tell me all about it?
Do you think if I ask an expert about what gravity is, he/she will tell me?
And so on and so on and so on.

Do you think if I ask an expert on nuclear power, he/she will tell me?

I'll answer for you:
Of course they will tell me all about it. Now should I just accept that, even though it all appears extremely questionable?

Should I just accept what they all say is true, then just be on my merry way accepting anything told to me, like a small child waiting for santa to land on his roof?

Give your head a massive shake. There's a reason I'm questioning stuff. If there wasn't a reason, then I wouldn't be questioning.
Just because you sit and suck your lollipop whilst kicking your little feet on a chair, believing anything told to you doesn't mean you are right. It means you have spent your whole life being a naive, gullible person.
The answer is there is not one expert on each of those items there are thousands and millions. That is what makes it creditable. You are the one that just said if 100 people would agree on something would it make them loonies.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #610 on: May 02, 2014, 06:57:12 AM »
Of course people do science for a living. I have no problem with that. I do have a massive problem with this uranium fissioning bollocks, though.
Stop pretending you've seen things that you haven't.
Unless you have a nuclear engineering degree you opinion has no value. In fact asking questions like that shows us you NEED to visit the nuclear power station. Don't you think asking question to an expert would give you the exact answer.
Answer these questions, see where we gets to.

Do you think if I ask an expert about the moon, he/she will tell me all about the moon?
Do you think if I ask an expert about man landing on the moon he/she will tell me all about it?
Do you think if I ask an expert about the mars landers, he/she will tell me all about it?
Do you think if I ask an expert about what gravity is, he/she will tell me?
And so on and so on and so on.

Do you think if I ask an expert on nuclear power, he/she will tell me?

I'll answer for you:
Of course they will tell me all about it. Now should I just accept that, even though it all appears extremely questionable?

Should I just accept what they all say is true, then just be on my merry way accepting anything told to me, like a small child waiting for santa to land on his roof?

Give your head a massive shake. There's a reason I'm questioning stuff. If there wasn't a reason, then I wouldn't be questioning.
Just because you sit and suck your lollipop whilst kicking your little feet on a chair, believing anything told to you doesn't mean you are right. It means you have spent your whole life being a naive, gullible person.
The answer is there is not one expert on each of those items there are thousands and millions. That is what makes it creditable. You are the one that just said if 100 people would agree on something would it make them loonies.
No I didn't say that, starry eyes. I said if 100 scientists went against your grain, they wouyld be immediately cast off as looney's, not credible.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #611 on: May 02, 2014, 07:00:54 AM »
I've had some excellent feed back from mods and admin over the experiment.
No you haven't.  Not one single member of this forum has ever confirmed receiving confirmation or an outline of your purported experiment from you—despite just being asked for a simple yes or no.  One can only assume that you've not received any "feedback" from any moderator or administrator on this forum.  So as it stands, we have yet to see even the slightest evidence proving that your experiment was actually carried out as you claim.

If either jroa or Ski could confirm they've received the preliminary results of your alleged experiment, then I may reconsider my opinion.


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I offered to show you it in a pm and you refused, so don't start whining about it now.
Incorrect.  I never "refused" to accept a PM from you confirming your alleged experiment.  You got all hot and bothered when I started asking specific, technical questions which you couldn't answer, and—like a parent refusing a kid a lolly—refused to PM me as some sort of juvenile "punishment".
 
I suspect the real reason you didn't PM me was simply because their was no "experiment" to confirm; it was all bullshit from day one.
 


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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #612 on: May 02, 2014, 07:01:37 AM »
Here is what you said: "If 100 people were put forward who weren't mainstream, they would not be credible and be cast off as loons"

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« Reply #613 on: May 02, 2014, 07:06:28 AM »
Where is the data?

There is no data.  There was no "experiment".  sceptimatic is just making stuff up.  And there were no PMs to other forum members.  The whole thing is one massive fairy story that he's now trying desperately to back out of.

It's actually quite funny watching him squirm whenever he's asked for some tangible evidence.   ;D
 

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« Reply #614 on: May 02, 2014, 07:20:41 AM »
That was all I was making from the off. Claims.
I have no evidence. I have no more evidence to prove it's false than you have to prove it's true, PERSONALLY.

Final you admit it: you have no evidence. But i do have some, i've been on a ~2000m mountains, where i was able to see the sea some 100 km away, while of course it isn't possible when on the ground. The flat earth explanation for this, the longer distance for the light to travel doesn't make sense: (100˛ + 2˛)˝ = 100.02km, that is 20m. pythagora tells you that the light had only around 20 meters more to travel from the sea to get to my eyes than to get to the base of the mountain.

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I have yet to see evidence that Lunar Eclipses even exist.  Have you ever seen one?

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« Reply #615 on: May 02, 2014, 07:26:22 AM »
That is cute. You know I can't go to space but others can take my place. Now you CAN go to the nuclear power plant.
It's not wise to hand over control to others and let them speak for you.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #616 on: May 02, 2014, 07:28:37 AM »
That is cute. You know I can't go to space but others can take my place. Now you CAN go to the nuclear power plant.
It's not wise to hand over control to others and let them speak for you.
Now why don't you go and visit a nuclear power plant also. You can report back to scepti and tell him what your saw.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #617 on: May 02, 2014, 07:34:42 AM »
No you haven't.  Not one single member of this forum has ever confirmed receiving confirmation or an outline of your purported experiment from you—despite just being asked for a simple yes or no.
Why would they confirm anything to you?
 
One can only assume that you've not received any "feedback" from any moderator or administrator on this forum.
What about?
  So as it stands, we have yet to see even the slightest evidence proving that your experiment was actually carried out as you claim.
That's your fault, not mine.
If either jroa or Ski could confirm they've received the preliminary results of your alleged experiment, then I may reconsider my opinion.
Why does anyone need to confirm anything to you about anything? If mainstream science tells you that black is white and I prove it's not, you will call me a loony and deny it, like you would with anyone who thought this way. This is what you people do.
Incorrect.  I never "refused" to accept a PM from you confirming your alleged experiment.  You got all hot and bothered when I started asking specific, technical questions which you couldn't answer, and—like a parent refusing a kid a lolly—refused to PM me as some sort of juvenile "punishment".
Why would I pm you? I asked you to pm me and you didn't do it. I gave you two opportunities and a time limit of half an hour. Hardly my fault, is it?
I suspect the real reason you didn't PM me was simply because their was no "experiment" to confirm; it was all bullshit from day one.
As above.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #618 on: May 02, 2014, 07:35:36 AM »
Here is what you said: "If 100 people were put forward who weren't mainstream, they would not be credible and be cast off as loons"
Yep, that's what I said. Next time, quote it and don't twist it.

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« Reply #619 on: May 02, 2014, 07:35:51 AM »
It's not wise to hand over control to others and let them speak for you.

It most certainly is if that person is eminently better qualified to expound upon a subject.  Or would you claim to know your science at a deeper level than, say, Neil deGrasse Tyson?

If you were to, your arrogance would be astounding LOL.
 

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« Reply #620 on: May 02, 2014, 07:38:14 AM »
Where is the data?

There is no data.  There was no "experiment".  sceptimatic is just making stuff up.  And there were no PMs to other forum members.  The whole thing is one massive fairy story that he's now trying desperately to back out of.

It's actually quite funny watching him squirm whenever he's asked for some tangible evidence.   ;D
Back out of? I'll give you one last chance. PM ME....PM ME....PM ME and let's see who doesn't have the data. You have 1 hour from now to respond in PM.

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #621 on: May 02, 2014, 07:40:07 AM »
That was all I was making from the off. Claims.
I have no evidence. I have no more evidence to prove it's false than you have to prove it's true, PERSONALLY.

Final you admit it: you have no evidence. But i do have some, i've been on a ~2000m mountains, where i was able to see the sea some 100 km away, while of course it isn't possible when on the ground. The flat earth explanation for this, the longer distance for the light to travel doesn't make sense: (100˛ + 2˛)˝ = 100.02km, that is 20m. pythagora tells you that the light had only around 20 meters more to travel from the sea to get to my eyes than to get to the base of the mountain.

edit: typo
Wait till I slap the top of your head and say, "hello, is there anybody in there."

I was talking about nuclear power stations when I said I had no direct evidence to back up my claim.

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« Reply #622 on: May 02, 2014, 07:41:06 AM »
No you haven't.  Not one single member of this forum has ever confirmed receiving confirmation or an outline of your purported experiment from you—despite just being asked for a simple yes or no.

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Why would they confirm anything to you?

I wasn't asking for anybody to confirm anything to me personally; no other member of this forum has ever confirmed to anybody else at all that they received a PM from you.  Why is that?  Because you never PMd anybody at all that's why LOL.
 

 

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Re: Scepti - Nuclear Power Stations
« Reply #623 on: May 02, 2014, 07:43:24 AM »
No you haven't.  Not one single member of this forum has ever confirmed receiving confirmation or an outline of your purported experiment from you—despite just being asked for a simple yes or no.

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Why would they confirm anything to you?

I wasn't asking for anybody to confirm anything to me personally; no other member of this forum has ever confirmed to anybody else at all that they received a PM from you.  Why is that?  Because you never PMd anybody at all that's why LOL.
Why would anybody on this forum confirm anything to anyone from my pm? Pm's are private.

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« Reply #624 on: May 02, 2014, 09:16:50 AM »
Wait till I slap the top of your head and say, "hello, is there anybody in there."

I was talking about nuclear power stations when I said I had no direct evidence to back up my claim.

We were talking about your experiment on the ice lake purportedly proving the earth is flat.
I have yet to see evidence that Lunar Eclipses even exist.  Have you ever seen one?

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« Reply #625 on: May 02, 2014, 10:50:15 AM »
Wait till I slap the top of your head and say, "hello, is there anybody in there."

I was talking about nuclear power stations when I said I had no direct evidence to back up my claim.

We were talking about your experiment on the ice lake purportedly proving the earth is flat.
You all seen me clearly give Geoffrey 1 hour to pm me, right? He didn't do so, so what's he scared of?

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« Reply #626 on: May 02, 2014, 10:55:12 AM »
Wait till I slap the top of your head and say, "hello, is there anybody in there."

I was talking about nuclear power stations when I said I had no direct evidence to back up my claim.

We were talking about your experiment on the ice lake purportedly proving the earth is flat.
You all seen me clearly give Geoffrey 1 hour to pm me, right? He didn't do so, so what's he scared of?
The question is what are you scared of?  If the evidence and experiment is such that it will show, without a doubt, that the earth is flat, why not stand by your convictions and put it out there for all to see?  Why send it just to those who agree with you?

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« Reply #627 on: May 02, 2014, 11:03:26 AM »
Wait till I slap the top of your head and say, "hello, is there anybody in there."

I was talking about nuclear power stations when I said I had no direct evidence to back up my claim.

We were talking about your experiment on the ice lake purportedly proving the earth is flat.
You all seen me clearly give Geoffrey 1 hour to pm me, right? He didn't do so, so what's he scared of?
The question is what are you scared of?  If the evidence and experiment is such that it will show, without a doubt, that the earth is flat, why not stand by your convictions and put it out there for all to see?  Why send it just to those who agree with you?
Experience has taught me that people like you are of a mind to simply dismiss EVERYTHING that goes against your globe.
I'm not giving you the opportunity to dismiss this after all the expense and time put into it by simply putting it in the forum for you all to dismiss it and ridicule it, so I sent it to the people who I knew would appreciate it.
375 people have access to it at this present time. Over 40 of them are scientists. The feed back has been immense to the point that many of them are going to expand on it with some added extras, which they tell me I will see the results of.

It's a brilliantly done experiment which cannot be debunked legitimately.

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« Reply #628 on: May 02, 2014, 11:17:25 AM »
Wait till I slap the top of your head and say, "hello, is there anybody in there."

I was talking about nuclear power stations when I said I had no direct evidence to back up my claim.

We were talking about your experiment on the ice lake purportedly proving the earth is flat.
You all seen me clearly give Geoffrey 1 hour to pm me, right? He didn't do so, so what's he scared of?
The question is what are you scared of?  If the evidence and experiment is such that it will show, without a doubt, that the earth is flat, why not stand by your convictions and put it out there for all to see?  Why send it just to those who agree with you?
Experience has taught me that people like you are of a mind to simply dismiss EVERYTHING that goes against your globe.
I'm not giving you the opportunity to dismiss this after all the expense and time put into it by simply putting it in the forum for you all to dismiss it and ridicule it, so I sent it to the people who I knew would appreciate it.
375 people have access to it at this present time. Over 40 of them are scientists. The feed back has been immense to the point that many of them are going to expand on it with some added extras, which they tell me I will see the results of.

It's a brilliantly done experiment which cannot be debunked legitimately.
So basically, you assume everyone does what you do.  Just dismiss without even discussing things.  Also, if it can not be debunked, then why not post it?

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« Reply #629 on: May 02, 2014, 11:59:41 AM »
Experience has taught me that people like you are of a mind to simply dismiss EVERYTHING that goes against your globe.
It isn't that we dismiss everything that goes against RE, it's more like it takes something that makes a little more sense than "stacking compressed molecules" or not being able to personally witness atoms splitting to get some of us to change our minds.
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