What pictures or videos do FE'ers consider credible.

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What pictures or videos do FE'ers consider credible.
« on: March 29, 2014, 12:26:41 PM »
Most RE'ers have no problem evaluation pictures or videos of different information as having value or creditability. Now the FE'ers seem to have a strong conspiracy attitude or all pictures are videos are fake or Photoshopped. I will not mention names but some will deny "ALL" pictures or videos. To these people at what point are they reasonable or just denialists. Here is a stating point and my question:"Scepti did the July 7 2005 London Bombing happen".

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2014, 11:26:46 PM »
Most RE'ers have no problem evaluation pictures or videos of different information as having value or creditability. Now the FE'ers seem to have a strong conspiracy attitude or all pictures are videos are fake or Photoshopped. I will not mention names but some will deny "ALL" pictures or videos. To these people at what point are they reasonable or just denialists. Here is a stating point and my question:"Scepti did the July 7 2005 London Bombing happen".

The flat earthers' issue that amuses me most is that despite their absolute denial that any or all "round earth" photographic images are genuine, they have yet to post one single, credible, and authenticated photographic image of their own in order to support their case for an allegedly flat earth.

Surely the logical thing for the flat earthers to do in order to prove the round earthers' images to be bogus would be to post their own images showing a flat earth?  Even one single (allegedly) genuine image would suffice, and at least reinforce their cause.

As it stands, the flat earthers simply say "your photos are all fakes", but..... we don't have any of our own to prove otherwise.  This sort of logical fallacy would be laughed out of any high school debate in minutes.

So flat earthers..... where are your images?  Or don't you actually have any?
 

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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 01:05:53 AM »
We post images all the time that show things like a straight horizon. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 01:14:21 AM »
Here's your proof of a flat Earth. Have a panoramic view of it all and even scroll the horizon to the top and see it's straight. Here's your proof, now stop saying no evidence has been given.

http://www.360cities.net/image/view-from-castello-castelsardo-sardinia#78.73,-19.03,110.0

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 02:05:45 AM »
Here's your proof of a flat Earth. Have a panoramic view of it all and even scroll the horizon to the top and see it's straight. Here's your proof, now stop saying no evidence has been given.

http://www.360cities.net/image/view-from-castello-castelsardo-sardinia#78.73,-19.03,110.0

And how do you think you'll see the 20cm/km curvature on a panorama view from very close to the ground? Of course it appears flat.

And it's a panorama view. The sides are stretched.

The only way to properly see Earth's curvature is from a very high altitude, not from sea level.

Like in this photo:


Taken from the Space Shuttle Endeavour in 2002. They were on the dark side of Earth. You can even see the moon in the distance.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 02:06:06 AM »
We post images all the time that show things like a straight horizon.

So you truly think that an image (apparently) showing a straight horizon really "proves" that the earth is not a globe jroa?  It's that easy?

Oh dear.   ;D

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 02:10:28 AM »
Here's your proof of a flat Earth. Have a panoramic view of it all and even scroll the horizon to the top and see it's straight. Here's your proof, now stop saying no evidence has been given.


Sorry sceptimatic.  Not good enough at all.  This is not an image you took with your own camera.  All flat earthers have demanded that images posted here by round earthers must be taken by the person posting it to be considered authentic.  Third-party images will be rejected as possibly having been manipulated.

Fail.
 
 

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 02:17:13 AM »
We post images all the time that show things like a straight horizon.

So you truly think that an image (apparently) showing a straight horizon really "proves" that the earth is not a globe jroa?  It's that easy?

Oh dear.   ;D

It can't look any flatter than that, now can it?

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 02:18:22 AM »
Here's your proof of a flat Earth. Have a panoramic view of it all and even scroll the horizon to the top and see it's straight. Here's your proof, now stop saying no evidence has been given.

http://www.360cities.net/image/view-from-castello-castelsardo-sardinia#78.73,-19.03,110.0

And how do you think you'll see the 20cm/km curvature on a panorama view from very close to the ground? Of course it appears flat.

And it's a panorama view. The sides are stretched.

The only way to properly see Earth's curvature is from a very high altitude, not from sea level.

Like in this photo:


Taken from the Space Shuttle Endeavour in 2002. They were on the dark side of Earth. You can even see the moon in the distance.
What's causing the haze? Is space full of Earthly atmosphere?

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 02:21:19 AM »
What's causing the haze? Is space full of Earthly atmosphere?

No, that's the atmosphere of the Earth, which extends to 100km in altitude. From that point on, it's considered space. That haze IS the 100km thick atmosphere.

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 02:24:08 AM »
What's causing the haze? Is space full of Earthly atmosphere?

No, that's the atmosphere of the Earth, which extends to 100km in altitude. From that point on, it's considered space. That haze IS the 100km thick atmosphere.
You mean the haze in FRONT of the model shuttle tail fin is Earth leakage is it?

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 02:27:54 AM »
One thing about any of these photo's. You always see the american flat lit up like a beacon no matter where the pictures are took.
That lovely line of light shooting off to the right from the arse end of the shuttle. What's causing that. Is that the little half eaten moon in the blackness?

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2014, 02:28:41 AM »
You mean the haze in FRONT of the model shuttle tail fin is Earth leakage is it?

Huh? What do you mean?

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 02:32:15 AM »
One thing about any of these photo's. You always see the american flat lit up like a beacon no matter where the pictures are took.
That lovely line of light shooting off to the right from the arse end of the shuttle. What's causing that. Is that the little half eaten moon in the blackness?

And the small thing is the moon.

The line of light is the same effect that's happening here:


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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 02:33:33 AM »
You mean the haze in FRONT of the model shuttle tail fin is Earth leakage is it?

Huh? What do you mean?
Never mind, "huh, what do you mean" I'm asking you what the haze is in front of the tail fin, not the haze of the supposed Earth's atmosphere behind it.

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2014, 02:34:40 AM »
One thing about any of these photo's. You always see the american flat lit up like a beacon no matter where the pictures are took.
That lovely line of light shooting off to the right from the arse end of the shuttle. What's causing that. Is that the little half eaten moon in the blackness?

And the small thing is the moon.

The line of light is the same effect that's happening here:


What are you doing showing me a picture of haze inside Earth for. The issue is in space. Let's deal with that issue, as I don't have an issue with this picture.

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2014, 02:36:21 AM »
Never mind, "huh, what do you mean" I'm asking you what the haze is in front of the tail fin, not the haze of the supposed Earth's atmosphere behind it.

What? There's no "haze" in front of the fin. Where are you seeing it?

 What does that have to do with anything?

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2014, 02:38:53 AM »
Never mind, "huh, what do you mean" I'm asking you what the haze is in front of the tail fin, not the haze of the supposed Earth's atmosphere behind it.

What? There's no "haze" in front of the fin. Where are you seeing it?

 What does that have to do with anything?
The tail fin is half drowned out by the haze. Plus, what is the streak of light to the right of the model shuttle?

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2014, 02:41:20 AM »
I got out of bed, looked at the floor of my bedroom. It was flat. I am now convinced the entire massive Earth is flat.

I advise all of you to do this experiment: Look at the floor of your bedroom upon awaking. Notice how it is flat. You can't see a curve. Case closed!

Note: If you look very carefully you will also notice your bed is flat and does not have a curvature. More evidence.


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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2014, 02:43:24 AM »
Here's your proof of a flat Earth. Have a panoramic view of it all and even scroll the horizon to the top and see it's straight. Here's your proof, now stop saying no evidence has been given.

http://www.360cities.net/image/view-from-castello-castelsardo-sardinia#78.73,-19.03,110.0

You can clearly see the end where it dips down which is called The Horizon. WTF?

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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2014, 02:44:14 AM »
The tail fin is half drowned out by the haze. Plus, what is the streak of light to the right of the model shuttle?

No it's not. Because it's white, it appears that way. If you look closely, you'll see that the "haze" is at the back of the fin. It doesn't have anything in front.

And the light, as I told earlier, is what happens when photos are made in a stronger light. Thus, I posted the sun picture, where you can see lines of light stretching from the sun.

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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2014, 02:47:43 AM »
If the Illuminati can convince 99.999% of the world it is Round and fake every photo and every space and moon mission ever, then don't you think they will make a photo without an obvious Photoshop mistake that Sceptispatic wouldn't simply find in 3 seconds? The guy is looking for clues to prove it is a fake photo. Don't you think if they could accomplish controlling every aspect of your life they can make a solid fake photo?

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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2014, 02:48:19 AM »
I got out of bed, looked at the floor of my bedroom. It was flat. I am now convinced the entire massive Earth is flat.

I advise all of you to do this experiment: Look at the floor of your bedroom upon awaking. Notice how it is flat. You can't see a curve. Case closed!

Note: If you look very carefully you will also notice your bed is flat and does not have a curvature. More evidence.
Now go out and walk about. Look around, then you will also notice it's fairly flat as well, apart from the usual hills and what not.
Look in the sky and watch the sun move, whilst you feel nice and still.
Get on a kids roundabout and spin it and watch the sun move and you will realise you are actually moving, because your body's balance will let you know.
There's millions of little things you can do to realise you are walking about on the most common sense terrain of a flat Earth. You listen to your own body's balance.
Reliance on the balancing bean that the mainstream science gives you is at best, nonsense and at worst, pure lunacy.

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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2014, 02:51:37 AM »
you are right Sceptispastic. I went outside, I looked at my neighbor's home, and I saw no curve between his home and mine. More evidence the Earth is flat. I went to the mailbox, grabbed some mail, they were all flat too.

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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2014, 02:54:28 AM »
The tail fin is half drowned out by the haze. Plus, what is the streak of light to the right of the model shuttle?

No it's not. Because it's white, it appears that way. If you look closely, you'll see that the "haze" is at the back of the fin. It doesn't have anything in front.

And the light, as I told earlier, is what happens when photos are made in a stronger light. Thus, I posted the sun picture, where you can see lines of light stretching from the sun.
You need to get a grip on your space and so does NASA and all the rest. If they're going to put out stupid pictures of models in darkness on Earth, at least try to do it in such a fashion as to actually make people think it is in space.
Look at how well lit up the model cargo by is. Go in someones unconverted loft space and shine your light in there and see what a mess it is and that's in an atmosphere. Space has none of that, as we re told and yet look at that bay all lit up.
The whole set up is a crock of tish.
By rights, only drugged people should ever be made to believe that this is a shuttle in space for crying out loud.

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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2014, 02:55:24 AM »
I turned on the TV, I only use my intuition, and no science. The truth must be the people are inside the box in my living room. Because I can't see soundwaves, so it can't be true. Because I would have to rely on science, which is a huge lie. So I broke my TV to look for the little people inside. They must have fled.

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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2014, 02:57:40 AM »
If the Illuminati can convince 99.999% of the world it is Round and fake every photo and every space and moon mission ever, then don't you think they will make a photo without an obvious Photoshop mistake that Sceptispatic wouldn't simply find in 3 seconds? The guy is looking for clues to prove it is a fake photo. Don't you think if they could accomplish controlling every aspect of your life they can make a solid fake photo?
I don't have to look for clues. They simply wave to me. It's like NASA are simply playing gmes. They know how silly they look but they know how tired and asleep the masses are.
If they put a man in that cargo bay with dungarees and a hard hat on and told you that he's fine because he took an oxygen pill...you lot would argue that it's all legitimate. It's ridiculous.

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2014, 02:58:38 AM »
The tail fin is half drowned out by the haze. Plus, what is the streak of light to the right of the model shuttle?

No it's not. Because it's white, it appears that way. If you look closely, you'll see that the "haze" is at the back of the fin. It doesn't have anything in front.

And the light, as I told earlier, is what happens when photos are made in a stronger light. Thus, I posted the sun picture, where you can see lines of light stretching from the sun.
You need to get a grip on your space and so does NASA and all the rest. If they're going to put out stupid pictures of models in darkness on Earth, at least try to do it in such a fashion as to actually make people think it is in space.
Look at how well lit up the model cargo by is. Go in someones unconverted loft space and shine your light in there and see what a mess it is and that's in an atmosphere. Space has none of that, as we re told and yet look at that bay all lit up.
The whole set up is a crock of tish.
By rights, only drugged people should ever be made to believe that this is a shuttle in space for crying out loud.

There's a huge light bulb there, in case you missed it...

And light can travel through space just about the same as through air, you know...

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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2014, 02:58:47 AM »
you are right Sceptispastic. I went outside, I looked at my neighbor's home, and I saw no curve between his home and mine. More evidence the Earth is flat. I went to the mailbox, grabbed some mail, they were all flat too.
There you go. Keep looking around and you'll soon realise that you spent all your life being duped.

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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2014, 03:00:41 AM »
I turned on the TV, I only use my intuition, and no science. Tee truth must be the people are inside the box in my living room. Because I can't see soundwaves, so it can't be true. Because I would have to rely on science, which is a huge lie. So I broke my TV to look for the little people inside. They must have fled.
I can't help you on that one. If you can't distinguish real life from TV, then it's no wonder you were caught up, fully in the lie. Get a new TV and try not to do it again.