We know how the sun 'appears' to rotate round the earth as we know sun rise and set times and they are consistent with a round earth.
Discuss.
They are consistent with how you are told the Earth acts in rotation. That's it. If I was to show you a Duck moving across a big window and told you that once it disappears, it will come back around to pass along the window again, you could accept that, right?
What if I was lying and the Duck went past the window and fell off the sill but there were other Ducks timed to start at specific times to follow the other poor Ducks path.
No real Ducks were used in this explanation.
I see the sun rise and set as does everyone else in the world following a pattern that is consistent with a round earth. The model matches exactly.
The model matches exactly because you are told that it does and shown why this happens. Your own eyes and mind, see what they want you to see.
Please provide your full explanation.
The full explanation is that you have been carefully coaxed into what you believe to this very day.
If someone calls you a nut, you can brush it off. If people call you a nut, it becomes a problem, because you start to question your own sanity. If they carry on calling you a nut for long enough, it's very possible that you will believe they are correct.
It works both ways. As in. I'm the nut to many because that's how people perceive me, because it's been said time and time again and more people have joined into verify it. Thankfully, I'm a nut and I know it. There's people out there that are nuts and they don't know it.
I believe you are extremely naive. Not nuts. Just very naive and extremely manipluated into beliving anything. A soft touch. Easily indoctrinated by those you feel inferior to.
That's not a dig at you, it's an observation of the likes that I see with many, just as they see me as a clown or tin foil hat lunatic.
If I was a weakling and a follower, I could easily say, " Oh, I follow the masses now, they are right." The point is, I'm not weak and I can think for myself like a good few others can.
Most people cannot in terms of falling to pieces under peer pressure.
The really weak ones are those that will take my quote and attempt to use it against me. That's what I call fully diluted weak.
You see, the thing is Skepti, you call us Naïve.. because we don't buy into your weird theories.... yet the evidence you produce is comedic at best..
The 'proof' you've used to debunk the moon landings was a photo of the landing module and the buggy... because you have an extremely limited understanding of the Landing Module, you misinterpret the photo and scream PROOF!
The fact is, that all of the conspiracy theorists that say they have proof it was faked, actually don't have any - all their 'proof' are just misinterpretations through total ignorance, or a limited ability to comprehend.
If you have spent a minute researching the design of the Luna module, you'd have seen that the rover was stowed on the other side, and what you were in fact misidentifying as the packed up rover, was the MESA. So there was nothing at all out of order in the photo, just your understanding of it..
Same with....
-Moon dust
-Low gravity and human motion on the moon
-Tyre tracks being covered by footprints
-the flag flapping
-and many other things... others can add to the list.
Just because you have a limited understanding of something, doesn't mean its fake.. What upsets me is that people like you that are ignorant, claim not to be, they claim to know what they are talking about (they never do) and they accuse very accomplished people of being frauds - right from their armchair.
I suspect that you as a person, and your conspiracy mates have never done anything extraordinary in your lives.. I'd wager you've probably not done much at all.
You seem to be an ultra paranoid person and people like you see monsters around every corner or in every photo.. Like a child... just last night I was attacked by a gargantuan spider which I had to get my wife to kill for me (yep, I'm totally terrified by the stupid things).. She was looking on the net to work out what breed it was, but our little 4 yo son saw the photos of the spiders and for the next 3 hours he was seeing them all over the bloody house...in his imagination... getting out of bed every 10 minutes yelling SPIDER!!! most of us grow out of that, but people like you clearly do not.
Your lack of education, or capacity to understand these things is NOT proof or evidence that the moon landings were fake, or that the earth is flat.