Flat Earth Map

I was noticing that every time I point out flaws in the maps people use to explain something in Flat Earth Theory and how it relates to the real world someone from the FE camp complains that it is just a polar projection and not a real map so it is not a valid view of what a flat Earth map would show.

But no one from the FE camp has produced a map to use....

Is this because they can't produce one?

Yes, we do not have a proper map at this point.

You have had 150 years to develop something!  What is taking so long?  Or is it that measurable distances between locations cannot be setup to conform to a flat surface.

For example location A is on the equator at the prime meridian, Location B is also on the equator at 45 degrees West, these two locations are 5000km apart from one another.

Location C is at 45 degrees North Latitude on the Meridian.  Location D is at 45 degrees North Latitude and 45 Degrees west....  These two locations are 3500 km apart from one another.

Location E is at the North Pole at the Meridian, it is also at the North Pole at 45 Degrees West, these locations are 0 km apart from one another.

If the world was flat the distance between points C and D would be exactly half of the distance between points A and B.

Yes, we do not have a proper map at this point.

If FE does not have a proper map, how do you explain that the RE maps ( Maps made from various projections of a globe ) are the accepted sources for information ?

If FE does not have a proper map how are you going to have a source for proper information according to FE ?

It would seem that since FE does not have a proper map, that the Unipolar and Bipolar maps are not "proper maps" and are useless, especially for navigation ? And if FE does not have a proper map - once again - what are you going to use as a source of information for navigation ?

There is a possibility that they have no problem with wandering around with no idea where they are heading, where they were, or how to get from point A to point B.

Or they would much rather just be told what to believe and how to get from point A to point B than to figure things out for themselves.

In the meantime we may just have to use this map I made, since it could be the best option available....

http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=64025158674310967#editor/target=post;postID=3723067680544826922;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=0;src=postname

The main copy of the map has since had a hunting shack and a liquor store added, but the church still does not have any windows.

That's why it's called Flat Earth THEORY. The Round Earth Terrorists are banning us from open public research fields, to sabotage any and all massive projects to chart the Flat Earth.

The lack of a proper Flat Earth map proves Round Earth Terorrists desperation to prevent us from making us. Ask any school to provide proof of RET. I did! And I GOT NONE! So I left that stupid RET school and told it to go fornicate it's matriarch.

Been researching FET ever since, and I regret none of it.

Hmmm, my schools have provided all kinds of evidence for round Earth theory, we called it science classes.

You have had 150 years to develop something!  What is taking so long?  Or is it that measurable distances between locations cannot be setup to conform to a flat surface.

For example location A is on the equator at the prime meridian, Location B is also on the equator at 45 degrees West, these two locations are 5000km apart from one another.

Location C is at 45 degrees North Latitude on the Meridian.  Location D is at 45 degrees North Latitude and 45 Degrees west....  These two locations are 3500 km apart from one another.

Location E is at the North Pole at the Meridian, it is also at the North Pole at 45 Degrees West, these locations are 0 km apart from one another.

If the world was flat the distance between points C and D would be exactly half of the distance between points A and B.

Do you have any evidence to support your claims?  This is all just hypothetical, since it can't be tested.  It is like saying, if X the RE and if Y then FE, except that we can not test to see if X or Y is true.

I have traveled all over the place.  This is the way the geography works.

Also just happens to correspond to the distances between points on a sphere of certain dimensions that happens to match the Earth.

Jroa, do you have any proof that it isn't such?  Or are you just arguing from the negative again.

If so I will gladly hand out intellectual spankings for naughty children.  Again.

I have traveled all over the place.  This is the way the geography works.

Also just happens to correspond to the distances between points on a sphere of certain dimensions that happens to match the Earth.

Jroa, do you have any proof that it isn't such?  Or are you just arguing from the negative again.

If so I will gladly hand out intellectual spankings for naughty children.  Again.

Great.  So you have traveled all over the world and determined your locations and distances how?  Please share your data.

Latitude and Longitude.

If need be I could calculate my latitude with a compass, a calculator, and a calendar by just noting the position of the sun at noon and what day of the year it is relative to the equinoxes.

If I had a very accurate watch I could look at when the sun reaches its zenith and calculate the longitude by the deviation from local noon.

But generally I just use GPS.

Don't use the sun for a flat earth map! Sun has bendy light, and so do stars and moon.

We need a better source of charting the FE map, that doesn't use distorted unreliable light waves.
I'll work on something if I can think of a way.

If light is bendy then why is there not distortion in the time it takes objects to travel known arc distances on the background of the sky?  For example the night sky rotates around the Earth at a constant 15 degrees per hour, whether it is straight up, or near the edge.

Latitude and Longitude.

If need be I could calculate my latitude with a compass, a calculator, and a calendar by just noting the position of the sun at noon and what day of the year it is relative to the equinoxes.

If I had a very accurate watch I could look at when the sun reaches its zenith and calculate the longitude by the deviation from local noon.

But generally I just use GPS.

Why would you use RET answers to make FET calculations?  That does not make sense.

If light is bendy then why is there not distortion in the time it takes objects to travel known arc distances on the background of the sky?  For example the night sky rotates around the Earth at a constant 15 degrees per hour, whether it is straight up, or near the edge.

Because you're at the exact same distance from that night sky, whenever you are in the same exact place on the Earth.

Genius.

I use RET calculations because they work.  I would use FET calculations if they had any basis in fact or reality, but because they do not have a basis in either fact or reality I can not use them for calculations.

For instance, if you were to go outside, tell me the local time and then give me the inclinations of several major stars I could tell you, within a certain slop factor, where you live.

Just the inclination of the North Star will give me your latitude.

Actually, look at that closer.  The North star, from your North facing window, is up there in the sky.

If you measure the angle between the North star are the horizon it tells you what your latitude is (with some slop for measurement errors, and that it is not exactly over the North Pole).

This works just fine in RET, and I can even draw out a diagram for why (tomorrow, as I am off to bed now).   From your latitude I can tell you how long tomorrow is going to be from local sunrise to local sunset.

Now, try to draw a way that could possibly work in a flat Earth....

There, a really easy experiment, and I do not think there is even any moonlight out tonight.


Oh, and SilverDane....  Whaaaattttt?  If light is making all kinds of crazy bends to make it look like the sun was setting on the horizon, why does that not effect the stars as well?

The stars are smaller they do appear to set at the horizon, while others rise at a different sector of the horizon.

Stars setting and rising proves FET. But disproves RET.
I don't believe in your RET convention of 'time'. That's fabricated after RET calculations which do not disprove the FET.

Tonight I saw no stars on the sky. At all. Just blackness. No clouds either. The stars were not visible, so stop bragging with what you can or can't do.

Your RET Star worship nonsense was calculated to create a "star time" which syncronizes with stars. That's it. It proves nothing. No RET.

It doesn't disprove FET either! It just matches star cycles on the damned sky. We're not talking about the sky here, brilliance! BUT THE EARTH.

Get on with it. Look under your feet, somewhere below those you will find dirt. That dirt is of the Earth which you have to prove is not Flat.

You misdrew the map, Duck.

You're supposed to have the South Pole as the Center! Why is your map on BACKWARDS!!
Incompetents like you shouldn't be born.

Don't show me an amateur map with North Pole center. This isn't Santa's workshop for toys! I SEE NO ELVES IN TRENCHES!!

Now Gimme a True Map with South Pole as it's center. And see if your magic tricks work on anyone then, duck.
Keep on quacking duck. Just gimme a reason..

What?

Its funny how they use round earth maps and round earth GPS's and navigate everywhere perfectly fine.

I am abandoning this thread to the trolls and the Poes...

That's why it's called Flat Earth THEORY. The Round Earth Terrorists are banning us from open public research fields

Actually there's quite a lot of open-source projects you could partake in. No one is banning you.  You simply don't show initiative. Only deconstructive criticism. 

Look into QGIS and OpenStreetMap.

to sabotage any and all massive projects to chart the Flat Earth.

You mean the zero projects?

Its funny how they use round earth maps and round earth GPS's and navigate everywhere perfectly fine.

They'd navigate even better with flat earth maps and flat earth GPS.

Also, you seem to forget the maps they use ... are flat. Themselves.

The Flat Earth can have fake "round earth" maps distorted from it, to the purpose of allowing the chance of navigation. It's using the flat earth geography, but with "round earth" labeling.

Your label maps are flat. Try rounding yourself around that 'hidden truth'. Unless it's too hidden in plain sight for your kind to see? 

Quote from: Silverdane on November 05, 2013, 12:05:13 AM

You misdrew the map, Duck.

You're supposed to have the South Pole as the Center! Why is your map on BACKWARDS!!
Incompetents like you shouldn't be born.

Don't show me an amateur map with North Pole center. This isn't Santa's workshop for toys! I SEE NO ELVES IN TRENCHES!!

Now Gimme a True Map with South Pole as it's center. And see if your magic tricks work on anyone then, duck.
Keep on quacking duck. Just gimme a reason..

What?

It was a parody of how the RE'ers sound whenever they react badly to a Flat Earth map. It's "too much" for them, so they constantly jump to personal attacks like 'you belong in mental asylum with all the other FET loonies'.

Frankly I don't know why there are moderators who defend the RET'ers, and warn me whenever I do the same to the RET'ers. They're allowed to personally attack me, because I'm FET? But I'm not because 'RET is betterestest' somehow than my world view?

I have a feeling the RETerrorists are infiltrated in the moderator, to allow RET'ers to attack us like savage mouth frothing lunatics on acid, without giving them so much as a warning, when they deserve a ban.

This further proves the RET Conspiracy!! 

And PS: to the RET mod who hates me (because I'm beautiful), that wasn't an 'attack' since that user showed us a proper FET map which works in our favour. And in my own, to prove the Flat Earth map works just fine with flight and navigation.

Why would I attack a fellow Flat Earther? I fully approve of that Flat Earth Map. A parody is a parody. And I am allowed to parody the RET'ers who themselves are jokers and clowns with catchy lingo that makes sense only to people with no lives who make fun at other's expense.

The RET censoring should be heavier than for the FET'ers, because they're wrong. I am getting accused of not being a Flat Earther by some REarth wreck, because they are too lazy to try and disprove the FET for themselves to me. Yet she doesn't get a warning, because she's RET so she is allowed personal attacks.
 
Why aren't there only unbiased FET mods, instead of RET mods?