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Please watch this video. Starting at 0:17 and onwards. #ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Crater Lake: Day to Night - Time Lapse
Not only does it show that the moon is a sphere, it also shows that the stars move around like if being watched from a sphere.

Look at the stars and from the point they become visible above the horizon. They move up and to the right, following a circular path around. This shows we're living on a sphere.

Other then that. If you have ever watched the nature around you, ever noticed that higher points can still receive sunlight, while lower sections do not? Like this photo right here. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDXa2iPufm6rIa4feZ7MIt0Ko96Ec2jwBCvhKr_cyoJiKAOmrm

Or even these clouds. The ones higher are still white, while the clouds at a lower altitude are dark http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3615/3410521934_473f9efdb0.jpg

Also, did you ever notice that once the sun sets (or rises) the sunrays are pointing upwards. Like visible in this photo http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3233/2682501902_a9a86e0ea8.jpg
while if the sun is higher, the sun rays are pointing downwards.
http://kochis.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/sunset-rays.jpg

These are just some of the things in ordinary life which tell you that the earth is a sphere. You do not have to rely on any one else, no governmental agencies or whatever. Just you...

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

Sadly you miss a whole lot of points I brought up, plus I do not want to debate if the eath is spinning or not, but the shape.
The points I brought up show you that.

If you say the moon is a sphere, the sun is a sphere, then what reason is there to believe the earth is not? Please do not answer it, it is a rhetoric question.
Now the other pictures I have shown you of the sunrays etc. It shows you that the earth is a sphere too. 

Moving to FEG.  The title of of the OP is not helpful

Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship on October 27, 2013, 10:01:39 AM

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

Sadly you miss a whole lot of points I brought up, plus I do not want to debate if the eath is spinning or not, but the shape.
The points I brought up show you that.

If you say the moon is a sphere, the sun is a sphere, then what reason is there to believe the earth is not? Please do not answer it, it is a rhetoric question.
Now the other pictures I have shown you of the sunrays etc. It shows you that the earth is a sphere too.

Rhetorical or not, I'm commenting anyway...with your logic, pumpkins and peas are spherical vegetables so that means corn and cucumbers must be as well.  The sun rays don't show that the Earth is a sphere.  It shows how light works at different angles and altitudes.

Quote from: Don Quichotte on October 27, 2013, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship on October 27, 2013, 10:01:39 AM

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

Sadly you miss a whole lot of points I brought up, plus I do not want to debate if the eath is spinning or not, but the shape.
The points I brought up show you that.

If you say the moon is a sphere, the sun is a sphere, then what reason is there to believe the earth is not? Please do not answer it, it is a rhetoric question.
Now the other pictures I have shown you of the sunrays etc. It shows you that the earth is a sphere too.

Rhetorical or not, I'm commenting anyway...with your logic, pumpkins and peas are spherical vegetables so that means corn and cucumbers must be as well.  The sun rays don't show that the Earth is a sphere.  It shows how light works at different angles and altitudes.

All other planets are spheres, the moon is a sphere, the sun is a sphere. We're all human, we're different but in general we all got two arms, two legs, two eyes, etc. There is no reason to assume the earth is different in that order.

Also if you were to look at the sunrays, you would see they would follow a circular path around the earth. This is simply impossible on a flat earth, because this would mean that the entire earth would be dark at one point, because the sunrays are (obviously) coming from below the surface at one point. I hope you can agree that there is always a part of earth receiving sunlight.

Looking at the sunrays. On a flat earth, even if the sun would be a sphere, the rays cannot come from below. Therefore the earth must be a sphere.

Also, if you can imagine a sphere so big, that it looks flat if you would stand on its surface, then it is something to take into consideration when observing the "flat" earth.

The earth is neither a planet or a sun.

The earth is neither a planet or a sun.

How would you define the earth?

The earth is neither a planet or a sun.

That is exactly the kind of reply you should expect on this forum.

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

Excuse my confusion. But I have seen some FE posts that the moon, the sun and the earth are discs and not spheres. ?

I would suggest that anyone contact your local elementary school  or high school, college, or university , or observatory for information to prove that the earth is moving. Of course they will all just give you lies because they are all part of the Round Earth Conspiracy.

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

They're not shooting stars, they're satellites.

The earth is neither a planet or a sun.

So what is Earth in space?

Periodically I see an answer pop on here that makes Pastafarianism look logical by comparison.  The Earth not being a planet is one of those answers.

Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship on October 27, 2013, 10:01:39 AM

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

They're not shooting stars, they're satellites.

No, not satellites.  They're planes.  I'm sure some might be shooting stars but def. not satellites.

Quote from: FlatOrange on October 27, 2013, 05:48:50 PM

Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship on October 27, 2013, 10:01:39 AM

Who said the moon wasn't a sphere?  And the movement of the stars does not prove it's the Earth moving.  What you should be noticing more than anything is the shooting stars.  Interesting how they appear to shoot across a surface.

They're not shooting stars, they're satellites.

No, not satellites.  They're planes.  I'm sure some might be shooting stars but def. not satellites.

What do you know about shooting stars? They are very fast and do not last very long.

What do you know about planes? They have flashing lights on the wingtips and move quite slow through the sky.

What do you see when looking at the night sky? You see a starlight-like object moving across the night sky at high speed. You are able  to follow it for quite a period of time. If you ever watch a plane, these things fly at much higher speeds. Also you are able to see them much longer than you would for any plane.

They are satellites. The best known 'satellite' is the ISS. Use an ISS tracker and watch it both in real life and on the tracker. If you want even more definite proof. Get yourself a telescope and have a look. You'll be amazed to find it is a spacecraft up there.

They're planes (the slower ones) and some are shooting stars (the faster ones).  I know this because in one of the videos I posted, you can see the plane turn around.  Satellites can't do that.

They're planes (the slower ones) and some are shooting stars (the faster ones).  I know this because in one of the videos I posted, you can see the plane turn around.  Satellites can't do that.

Clearly you have never looked up at the night sky to see it for yourself. Don't come bragging about what it can be then.

Here is a video shot from Earth. #ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">International Space Station, ISS, as seen from Earth
It is a single light, it is the ISS (go check it for yourself...don't tell me it's fake...check it first to verify or debunk it).

And this is a plane #" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Watchin Planes at Night with two lights at each wingtip and strobe lights.  Clearly there is a difference. And if you were going to have a look for yourself, you will find other differences as well. For example, the plane makes sound. The ISS does not.

Don,
CLEARLY you do not know what you are talking about.  I don't care to see any ISS videos, thank you.  We are talking about the light from the planes and stars that appear as LINES of light when recorded at 30 second exposures.

Don,
CLEARLY you do not know what you are talking about.  I don't care to see any ISS videos, thank you.  We are talking about the light from the planes and stars that appear as LINES of light when recorded at 30 second exposures.

Earth...read the topic, there is nothing about 30 second exposures. But you agree there is an ISS?

Don,
Read the topic, there is nothing about determining the difference between airplanes and the ISS.  My response was originally to Flat Orange about the streaks being satellites.  No, for the final time, I have not seen evidence that proves the ISS is what NASA wants us to think it is.   

Don,
Read the topic, there is nothing about determining the difference between airplanes and the ISS.  My response was originally to Flat Orange about the streaks being satellites.  No, for the final time, I have not seen evidence that proves the ISS is what NASA wants us to think it is.

In the video these are planes, but in real life when you look at the night sky you not only see planes, you also see satellites. Every once and a while you will see the ISS pass by. It doesn't change being stubborn. The fact that you do not want to look, does not mean it is not there.

So get out there and see it for yourself.

Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship on November 03, 2013, 10:17:39 AM

Don,
Read the topic, there is nothing about determining the difference between airplanes and the ISS.  My response was originally to Flat Orange about the streaks being satellites.  No, for the final time, I have not seen evidence that proves the ISS is what NASA wants us to think it is.

In the video these are planes, but in real life when you look at the night sky you not only see planes, you also see satellites. Every once and a while you will see the ISS pass by. It doesn't change being stubborn. The fact that you do not want to look, does not mean it is not there.

So get out there and see it for yourself.

Once again, the old advice to FE applies. "Go somewhere outside your window and look." Charts are available which show when and where to look for the ISS. You don't want to look because you do not want to see that the evidence that the  ISS is what it is. On night "Star Parties" some observatories will know when and where the ISS is going to appear and will point them out as they pass by. FE denial doesn't prove or disprove anything.

Please watch this video.

No. I don't accept jootube as reliable source of anything much. I was going to dignify your posthread with a simple "No", which you didn't even deserve, but there's that low content rule that spared you the humiliation again.

I'm sure professional game artists can fake a sphere's glowy movement better than you can. Just check this one out:
#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator ~ Intro
Have a gamble at that, mate. Spoiler allarm: the world in that game is as fake as your 'ball world'.

Silverdane, you should discuss with arguements, not with angry rants.

Have a gamble at that, mate. Spoiler allarm: the world in that game is as fake as your 'ball world'.

If you're going to try comparing CGI video to real video, could you at least use a video that does ,in fact, look real?  I'm going to guess your video and imagery analytical skills probably rival those of sceptimatic.

If you're going to try comparing CGI video to real video, could you at least use a video that does ,in fact, look real?  I'm going to guess your video and imagery analytical skills probably rival those of sceptimatic.

How can you prove it's a real video? NASA shows CGI fakeness and passes it up for 'real video'. Even though they're payed enough to fake it properly, you can still see the CGI fakeness all over it's (sensored).

If a CGI looks too real you'll call it a real video, and complain it's 'not CGI enough to prove it's fake'.
Thirdly, my anger management has nothing to do with your avoidance of my facts. Cowardice doesn't excuse you or any other RETerrorist from pretending not to read my questions, or understand my points. Or sloth for that matter. Save your posts if you can't debate worth dung.

Fourthly, I don't debate with the illiterates, so whoever thinks he can argue with me while ignoring my arguments is out of their small narrow mind. I don't debate with blind or other disabled lot.
Fiftly, try looking past the 'anger' and soak in the arguments. You might have a chance at uh..I dunno .. DISPROVING THEM EVER?!?

If you want a realistic fake of RET watch videos of Populous 4 : The Beginning. Created by the brilliant geeko reptilian minds who brought you: NASA : The Bull$#ite !!

Don and Google,
You keep saying we refuse to look ourselves.  What makes you think we haven't?  It gets me how you people claim to be so scientific and yet you make assumptions about almost everything.  I have looked and I haven't seen a clear enough image of the ISS.  You would think there would be video after video of amateurs recording the ISS but there isn't.  Funny thing is, there are a bunch of them WITH NO SOUND, showing what appears to be CGI.

Don and Google,
You keep saying we refuse to look ourselves.  What makes you think we haven't?  It gets me how you people claim to be so scientific and yet you make assumptions about almost everything.  I have looked and I haven't seen a clear enough image of the ISS.  You would think there would be video after video of amateurs recording the ISS but there isn't.  Funny thing is, there are a bunch of them WITH NO SOUND, showing what appears to be CGI.

Well, did you take a look through a telescope to see the ISS? You will see with your own eyes you're looking at the ISS.
You don't even have to rely on what you call 'fake' videos.

In the video these are planes, but in real life when you look at the night sky you not only see planes, you also see satellites. Every once and a while you will see the ISS pass by. It doesn't change being stubborn. The fact that you do not want to look, does not mean it is not there.

So get out there and see it for yourself.

Shut up. You go see it for yourself. Like the Edge of the flat earth, for starters. Ice Wall also.

What stops planes or satellites from flying over a Flat Earth? It's easier because altitude is constant, there's no risk of flying off into space. Their height is constant above the Flat Earth, which proves the FETruth.

Planes do the same, they fly over the Earth at constant altitudes paying no mind to the 'flying off into orbit to the Moon and back, if you'll be .. if you'll be my baby'.

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