Are stars and other planets round?

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Balla

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Are stars and other planets round?
« on: April 15, 2013, 03:45:36 PM »
Just wondering about the other stuff floating out there above the pancake we call home- is it also flat?
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Charged

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 04:08:43 PM »
I'm not 100% sure but i think in FE theory the rest of space is actually only about 200 more miles above the sun and moon and are attached to a canopy of sorts.

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Balla

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 04:22:09 PM »
Thanks for answering. It would be great to know a bit more about how celestial bodies (not sure how FE refers to this stuff) are perceived.

Just another question- secular round earth believers are open to the idea that there might be other planets with life- are there FE followers who believe in the possibility of other flat, life containing worlds?
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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 05:15:45 PM »
Just wondering about the other stuff floating out there above the pancake we call home- is it also flat?

None of the observed planets are flat. If you would like me to speculate, I would be amazed if we lived in the only flat "planet" in existence. As for stars, I'm not sure they can be flat.

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Rama Set

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 05:45:00 PM »
Just wondering about the other stuff floating out there above the pancake we call home- is it also flat?

None of the observed planets are flat. If you would like me to speculate, I would be amazed if we lived in the only flat "planet" in existence. As for stars, I'm not sure they can be flat.

If there are other flat planets, they would be an excellent candidate to observe the near luminal velocity of the Earth.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2013, 09:19:38 PM »
It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

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Rama Set

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2013, 09:31:59 PM »
It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

On what basis can you make that claim?  Please provide your definition of a planet.
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squevil

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 09:32:13 PM »
I would be amazed if we lived in the only flat "planet" in existence.


It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

theres your problem. no consistency.

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Balla

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2013, 11:49:41 PM »
It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

Let's say the earth is not a planet. Whatever it is- are there more of them in the universe or are we totally unique?
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Tom Bishop

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 12:40:10 AM »
It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

On what basis can you make that claim?  Please provide your definition of a planet.

We use the Ancient Greek definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_planet

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While knowledge of the planets predates history and is common to most civilizations, the word planet dates back to ancient Greece. Most Greeks believed the Earth to be stationary and at the centre of the universe in accordance with the geocentric model and that the objects in the sky, and indeed the sky itself, revolved around it. (An exception was Aristarchus of Samos who put forward an early version of Heliocentrism.) Greek astronomers employed the term asteres planetai (ἀστέρες πλανῆται), "wandering stars", to describe those starlike lights in the heavens that moved over the course of the year, in contrast to the asteres aplaneis (ἀστέρες ἀπλανεῖς), the "fixed stars", which stayed motionless relative to one another.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2013, 12:41:18 AM »
I would be amazed if we lived in the only flat "planet" in existence.


It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

theres your problem. no consistency.

Pongo put the word planet in quotes.

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Rama Set

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2013, 03:46:13 AM »
It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

On what basis can you make that claim?  Please provide your definition of a planet.

We use the Ancient Greek definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_planet

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While knowledge of the planets predates history and is common to most civilizations, the word planet dates back to ancient Greece. Most Greeks believed the Earth to be stationary and at the centre of the universe in accordance with the geocentric model and that the objects in the sky, and indeed the sky itself, revolved around it. (An exception was Aristarchus of Samos who put forward an early version of Heliocentrism.) Greek astronomers employed the term asteres planetai (ἀστέρες πλανῆται), "wandering stars", to describe those starlike lights in the heavens that moved over the course of the year, in contrast to the asteres aplaneis (ἀστέρες ἀπλανεῖς), the "fixed stars", which stayed motionless relative to one another.

This Greek definition is not a definition of planet but of "wandering star" and "fixed star".  Could I request that the FES, so as to not seem equivocal or obfuscatory use the term Fixed Stars when speaking of what the rest of the world know as planets?
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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2013, 06:51:36 AM »
All observable celestial objects are spherical in nature.
A telescope can easily determine this.

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squevil

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2013, 07:06:50 AM »
I would be amazed if we lived in the only flat "planet" in existence.


It does not follow that the planets are like the earth. The earth is not a planet.

theres your problem. no consistency.

Pongo put the word planet in quotes.

They still contradict. I think it's the websites biggest flaw. Even 2 major players can't agree. Now this isn't a roundly rant. I'm just saying its a running issue that gives people ammunition.

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iwanttobelieve

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2013, 02:38:09 PM »
Pongo is a major player?  ???

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Re: Are stars and other planets round?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2013, 04:03:10 PM »
I still maintain that the earth could be round under the FE model. It's just way bigger than we thought.
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