The Canopy

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

What is the canopy?

What is the canopy?

I was told that's where the stars are held and keeps on the air on the planet.

Are you talking about a literal, physical Firmament?

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

Naturally.  Sounds like a movie poster line.

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

How hostile? And what evidence do you have of this region's inhospitability?

Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up. 

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

Who's to say they haven't

Quote from: muggsybogues1 on April 09, 2013, 07:59:25 AM

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

Who's to say they haven't

Since they have not, I can only assume that they cannot. That was the point.

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

Who's to say they haven't

Since they have not, I can only assume that they cannot. That was the point.

So many problems with that statement.  First, you arrived at the conclusion that they have not gone 3000 miles, by creating a conspiracy that has no evidence.  That is completely fallacious.  Second, just because something has not happened, does not mean it cannot happen.  "Can not" does not logically follow "has not".  We had not broken the sound barrier, but it was possible, and eventually happened.  We had not driven in cars in the 19th century, but we certainly can now.

Based on the two criteria above, you statement is utterly meaningless and valueless.

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

Who's to say they haven't

Since they have not, I can only assume that they cannot. That was the point.

How do you know they haven't?

So many problems with that statement.  First, you arrived at the conclusion that they have not gone 3000 miles, by creating a conspiracy that has no evidence.  That is completely fallacious.  Second, just because something has not happened, does not mean it cannot happen.  "Can not" does not logically follow "has not".  We had not broken the sound barrier, but it was possible, and eventually happened.  We had not driven in cars in the 19th century, but we certainly can now.

Based on the two criteria above, you statement is utterly meaningless and valueless.

Of course I mean "cannot" in the sense that they cannot do so right now.

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

Who's to say they haven't

Since they have not, I can only assume that they cannot. That was the point.

How do you know they haven't?

Is there something to make you think they have?

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Quote from: sandmanMike on April 03, 2013, 02:11:09 PM

What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

One day we may be able to achieve this.

What keeps us from reaching the canopy by going straight up?

Remember, it's 3,000 miles away, and you're fighting UA all the way.

Rockets can go 3,000 miles up.

Then why haven't they?

Who's to say they haven't

Since they have not, I can only assume that they cannot. That was the point.

How do you know they haven't?

Is there something to make you think they have?

I see no reason as to why they have not. 

I honestly don't even see how a canopy exists.  From what you've said in other treads, we've got a sun attached to it, but not really. 

The moon's attached to it, but not really.  Stars are attached to it, but not really (they are glowing spiders?!?).  And then there is debri from the sky that can pass through it. 

I'm really starting to doubt your evidence for a canopy.  What evidence do you have for a canopy again?

Might I make a suggestion  ?

Why not have muggsybones1 supply evidence that rockets cannot go 3000 miles and do not exist and sandmanMike supply evidence that they can go 3000 miles and they do exist ?

(Never mind photographs, sandmanMike....They are all fakes made by Photo Copy or some other software according to the FE) Do you see what you/we are up against ?

Weather balloon?

Might I make a suggestion  ?

Why not have muggsybones1 supply evidence that rockets cannot go 3000 miles and do not exist and sandmanMike supply evidence that they can go 3000 miles and they do exist ?

(Never mind photographs, sandmanMike....They are all fakes made by Photo Copy or some other software according to the FE) Do you see what you/we are up against ?

I will commence this investigation once you have proved that the Easter Bunny does not exist.

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 09, 2013, 10:10:42 AM

Might I make a suggestion  ?

Why not have muggsybones1 supply evidence that rockets cannot go 3000 miles and do not exist and sandmanMike supply evidence that they can go 3000 miles and they do exist ?

(Never mind photographs, sandmanMike....They are all fakes made by Photo Copy or some other software according to the FE) Do you see what you/we are up against ?

I will commence this investigation once you have proved that the Easter Bunny does not exist.

But can you show us how the canopy exists?

Quote from: Googleotomy on April 09, 2013, 10:10:42 AM

Might I make a suggestion  ?

Why not have muggsybones1 supply evidence that rockets cannot go 3000 miles and do not exist and sandmanMike supply evidence that they can go 3000 miles and they do exist ?

(Never mind photographs, sandmanMike....They are all fakes made by Photo Copy or some other software according to the FE) Do you see what you/we are up against ?

I will commence this investigation once you have proved that the Easter Bunny does not exist.

But the Easter Bunny does exist:

Your turn.

Why would the UA be an obstacle any more than gravity in RET? Any rocket would already have momentum from the earth before launch. It would just need to accelerate upwards faster than g, in the same way that in RET it would need to exert a force greater than mg.

I will commence this investigation once you have proved that the Easter Bunny does not exist.

I think this should be a candidate for the new FES motto.

The Canopy, by some groups, is said to have been the mechanism for the flood, as well as having ties in science like the effect of red light on life.

The Canopy, by some groups, is said to have been the mechanism for the flood, as well as having ties in science like the effect of red light on life.

Ok.

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What keeps us from reaching the canopy?

Hostile conditions in the realm of the Great Ice Wall.

Hostile conditions ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/16pole.html?_r=0

Yeah I know about a dozen people who have been to Antarctica as well. It's something I've always wanted to do actually. From Ushuaya in Argentina it's pretty cheap as well; last year we met a group of guys who just flew down to the Antarctica peninsula for a week for $2k each.

I have another question.:

Of what material does the canopy consist ? What is it made of ? Is is just an extension of the ice ring, but above the earth ?

Example: The Ice Ring is made of ice ? The canopy is made of what

It is made of water. I'm not sure if is liquid or ice.