Ice Wall Question.

How does the ice wall not melt?  It can't be that cold all the way around the Earth.

Why not?

^Simple convection from the heat created on the bottom of the earth from UA acting on it would melt the ice wall. This was discussed somewhat recently. Besides I was under the impression that the ice wall model is old news and even you didn't really believe in it anymore.

Does simple convection from your alleged molten core melt ice drifts in RET?  I see no reason why convection must need melt ice in the rim or polar region.

Its a very different concept, in ret the convection waves have to pass through many miles of rock yet in the ice wall fet the waves simply have to pass through space around the earth

Space being an excellent conductor of heat, then as you see it.

Perhaps not space per say, but there will be some form of a surface for the heat to travel along as it moves along the sides of the flat earth, especially if it is cone shaped as I believe is a common view of it. Heat moves over a surface much easier than through it

Remember the "ice wall" is just a theory, in no way does this wall hold back the Earth;s oceans.
If Antarctica was the rim, its the rock beneath it not the ice that holds back the water.

Until a continuous 150 ft wall of ice, 60,000 km long has been discovered it will only remain a theory.
What makes much more sense, especially to a Zetetic is that Antarctica is a separate continent.
And thanks to Master Willmore, that will soon become the "mainstream" theory. 

Perhaps not space per say, but there will be some form of a surface for the heat to travel along as it moves along the sides of the flat earth, especially if it is cone shaped as I believe is a common view of it. Heat moves over a surface much easier than through it

First, I don't know anyone who subscribes to a cone-shape. Second, you've gone from convection to radiation(?) and now heat is moving on "some form of surface". Forgive me if I don't believe you have any idea about the subject at hand. 
Now, how is the heat transfer through a surface (conduction? I'm really not sure what you're talking about, but I'm going to assume you're poorly explaining conduction) any different than the conduction you earlier told me had to transfer through many miles of rock and so insulated the poles of a globe?

Ive seen many strong FE believers suggest it to e cone shaped. perhaps you miseed that memo which doesnt surprise me as noone seems to be able to keep the story straight about FET. Oh wait thats cause theres so many holes in the theory everyone needs to make up some preposterous explanation.

And so what if my terminology is not 100% correct, the principles and physics are still relevant. Whats funny is your calling me out on something that I have been trying to help explain in favor of FET in this thread, otherwise I simply would have told the OP that the ice wall doesnt melt because it doesnt exist, its called Antartica which is a continent on the southern-most part of the globe.

Yet as has been stated several times (by me as well) it is apparent that the majority of FEB's no longer support the ice wall theory. Even your prescious Tom Bishop doesnt support it

Well, it really depends on your apparently arbitrary definition of "ice wall". And I'd love to see the "strong FE believers" suggesting it is cone shaped. 

I'm still at a loss as to why the rim-country would not be cold according to you.

Well then do explain how flat earth is shaped good sir, id like to hear. As to your second part, its a simple matter of the force from UA creates heat on the bottom of the earth (whatever shape it is) which is a FET constant, (atleast I think, then again I could be wrong as everyone thinks something different.) That heat is not going to be just on the very bottom surface if the earth has any taper to it.

Then again I suppose my argument (which is trying to help plug a hole in FET) is invalid because no one agrees on anything. My argument works very well for a cone shaped FE, but I'm seeing in other threads that the earth could be infinitely deep?

Perhaps this argument needs saved for when FE'ers get a common ground to stand on

The earth cannot be infinitely deep. Only infinite in scope. I'm still waiting for the myriad of posts describing it as a cone.

After looking into it I suppose it was only suggested as a possibility a few times. It also led me to discover there is no solid theory for what the other side is like, though the cone shape makes the most sense in my head when looking at the force of UA acting upon the earth. Another one I saw pop up a few time was   thin cylinder (hockey puck i believe was used more than once as an example) and of course there's the ever popular back of a tortise/elephant.

Either way it boils down to one undeniable fact, the FE'ers need to get their stories straight if they ever hope to prove this to anyone   

has anyone ever been to the ice wall?

has anyone ever been to the ice wall?

Many people have.

Lord Pythagoras, you seem to have a misguided idea as to what convection, conduction, and radiation mean.  Please correct yourself before moving on.

name 10 people that have been to the ice wall

name 10 people that have been to the ice wall

James Clark Ross
Carl Anton Larsen
Robert Falcon Scott
Erich von Drygalski
William Speirs Bruce
Earnest Shakleton
Roald Amundsen
Douglas Mawson
Richard Evelyn Byrd
Lincoln Ellsworth

Quote from: CarlEdwards25 on September 21, 2012, 08:06:47 AM

name 10 people that have been to the ice wall

James Clark Ross
Carl Anton Larsen
Robert Falcon Scott
Erich von Drygalski
William Speirs Bruce
Earnest Shakleton
Roald Amundsen
Douglas Mawson
Richard Evelyn Byrd
Lincoln Ellsworth

I thought you now believed that Antarctica was a seperate continent, not the ice wall?  Isn't the map showing Antarctica as a seperate continent the one you've been touting lately?  Weren't many (if not all) of those people among those who explored, studied and charted Antarctica? 

Or are you back to claiming that Antarctica is the ice wall, and all the explorers just happend to find, explore and chart the same small section of the ice wall?

I thought you now believed that Antarctica was a seperate continent, not the ice wall?  Isn't the map showing Antarctica as a seperate continent the one you've been touting lately?  Weren't many (if not all) of those people among those who explored, studied and charted Antarctica? 

Or are you back to claiming that Antarctica is the ice wall, and all the explorers just happend to find, explore and chart the same small section of the ice wall?

We're talking about the traditional FE model in this thread.

has anyone actually been to the edge

has anyone actually been to the edge

If they have, they haven't lived to report about it.

has anyone actually been to the edge

Some believe that Andrea Barns made it to the edge, but she was never seen again after she left on her ill fated expedition and the film in her camera that was recovered was ruined when it was accidentally exposed to light.
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2602284039812956586&hl=en#

is the edge being guarded?

It is rumored that people have died trying to find out.

you would think some would make it back considering the technology we have

until evidence is brought forward we must assume there is no ice wall.

is the edge being guarded?

Yes approximately 80,000 guards have no lives and simply wait in the freezing cold hoping that eventually they will get to turn away some pesky citizens.

until evidence is brought forward we must assume there is no ice wall.

It really depends on how you define the ice wall. That there is an ice shelf and mountains in the rim country is fairly well documented.